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Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
It's always been medium for me. Most places know that "medium" is still very pink in the middle. That said, I've often gotten burgers overcooked and have started asking for "medium rare" to get "medium."
And I agree with Nick that there are plenty of places out there that do a damn fine burger or slider cooked "through."
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Agree about the shredded lettuce not belonging on a burger.
I may be in the minority here, but to me there is no substitute for a leaf of very crisp iceberg lettuce (yes, I know many people consider iceberg an abomination). There's something about the burst of juices and warmth from the burger combinging with the cool bite of firm lettuce. Of course I'm one of those that voted for a non grilled bun in order to insure this deliciousness. Burger porn indeed.
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Embarrassing food question. Need help with foods I love.
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Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
It's always been medium for me. Most places know that "medium" is still very pink in the middle. That said, I've often gotten burgers overcooked and have started asking for "medium rare" to get "medium."
And I agree with Nick that there are plenty of places out there that do a damn fine burger or slider cooked "through."
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Brussels Sprouts w/bacon = yum.
This Week's Poll Results
Agree about the shredded lettuce not belonging on a burger.
I may be in the minority here, but to me there is no substitute for a leaf of very crisp iceberg lettuce (yes, I know many people consider iceberg an abomination). There's something about the burst of juices and warmth from the burger combinging with the cool bite of firm lettuce. Of course I'm one of those that voted for a non grilled bun in order to insure this deliciousness. Burger porn indeed.
Video: How to Eat a Chicken Wing
Cool video, but I'm not eating the cartilage.
Do You Like Mock Foods?
omg! This topic made me think of that silly recipe on the ritz box. Has anyone actually ever made that "mock apple pie?" I'll have to check out the link as well.
Embarrassing food question. Need help with foods I love.
Thank you all so much for your input! It is appreciated more than I can convey. I'm looking at anything and everything at this point. What a great community of help:-)
Lemonfair, thanks especially for your response. I'd not been aware of the pulse difference.
The Beano and allergist suggestions were great as well as all of the others. A smart bunch, you Serious Eaters!
Embarrassing food question. Need help with foods I love.
Thanks, moibec and lemons.
Yes, even pasta with olive oil and salt and pepper will give me lower stomach pain, (and I eat hardly any bread). I have a gastroenterologist who has done tests, with results indicating there should not be a problem. If it matters, my dad has the same issues with similar foods.
The Fest: Our Humblest Apologies to All
I was not at this event, but believe the comparison to Altamont inappropriate as a human being died at the latter. I can appreciate everyone's disappointment (I would be), but let's keep things in perspective. It was effed-up, but everyone lived.
JW, if you were being sarcastic, I'm sorry for posting this.
Regional Fast Food Chains
El Pollo Loco! Miss them so much since leaving L.A.
'Survivor: Gabon' Competitor Pays $400 For a Hamburger
I would never be (by choice) stuck in a jungle; too many icky spiders. Me being apart from my loved ones, cheeseburgers and tacos would be too much.
Btw - Love your writing and posts, Nick.
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Chipotle Meattballs! Can't wait to try.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I like great meat cooked medium well, average meat cooked well. Charred, even. I figure, our ancestors worked to harness fire, and I'm not going to diss their memory - or my digestive tract. Pink is good in other circumstances and locations, but my burgers? No way.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Looks from the poll like the medium-or-more vote only has slightest of margins (51 to 49 right now). Also, I imagine that people who want a medium burger (I'm on the MR/MED line) will not be made squeamish by seeing a picture of one that is medium-rare so I don't know how useful it is to lump them in with the well-doners.
Here in Toronto it is a battle against regulations, servers, and proprietors to get a less-than-well burger so it is always good to see photographic evidence when restaurants are (safely) serving burgers the way I like them. You can always ask for a more well-done burger.
Thanks for the great work.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I am a rare burger man myself (ever since the server at P.J. Clarke's mistakenly swapped my medium burger with a coworker's 6 years ago) but I think this is less about individual preferences than documenting well made, exceptional burgers.
Like it or not (I don't), a rare or even medium-rare burger is an exception these days, and worthy of photographing for reasons beyond aesthetics. Probably 75% of the time that I order a cheeseburger, not counting places like 5 Guys, my request for rare is received with a nod and a smile, after which I receive something that's gray and flavorless all the way through. My experiences have also been that outside of NYC, "underdone" burgers are even harder to procure. Well-done burger eaters, be content with the knowledge that outside of this site and a few accommodating spots, it's your world that we are all living in. Let me smile at the blood-dripping meat on the screen, even if you think I'm insane and/or risking my health.
(also, the idea of a well-done sirloin burger, mentioned above, is horrifying. Rare ground chuck, please, with a slice of American.)
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Medium for me,...and I dont think I've had a burger that was as succulent as it had been at medium. Anything made less than that is still "moo-ing".
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Sprout, have you ever been to London? At most fairly respectable places, you will get a medium burger, and at most good places, you will get a medium rare burger as standard.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
@Sov: To be crystal clear: I meant come out as in leave. The more the beef is cooked, the more the fat breaks down and the fat juices and the meat juices are progressively cooked out of the burger.
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
@Sov: I'll replace "come out" with "leave the burger."
Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
Bebo and Daniel, reading over this, I still think the meaning of "come out" is confusing. Now, as I read most of your initial post, Daniel, you like burgers rare or medium rare because there "is far more meat flavor when the burger has more fat and juice in it". The next clause of the sentence seems to be adjectival, alluding to "elements that come out the more the meat is cooked." The "come out" can be interpreted two ways: come out as leave, or come out as be increasingly noticed.
From what you said earlier in you post I suspect the former, but I don't think it's entirely clear yet.
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Cookie turkeys! So cute.
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The Pumpkin Pie Brulee sounds amazing!
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last call for Perfect Mashed Potatoes!
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maybe the squash with sesame, maybe not for Thanksgiving day but the days to follow
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I can't stop thinking about Bittman's turkey. I think I'm going to try that this year!
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The Honey-Brined and Smoked Turkey sounds like a winner to me! I'll probably do it on the Weber, occasionally adding a few pieces of wood to the coals. I can't wait!
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Dear AHT: Sick of Undercooked Burgers
I wouldn't eat most of the burgers pictured. They look raw not undercooked,
I make hamburgers at home with ground sirloin cooked through and they are not dry. The secret is cover them with onions while you are cooking them.
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pumpkin pie brulee
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The Brussels Sprouts and Apples with Brown Mutter and Cream look amazing.
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The Pumpkin Pie Brulee looks tasty!
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Pumpkin pie brulee ftw.
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Pumpkin pie brulee!
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Sautéed brussels sprouts with bacon
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