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From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

Growing up, we didn't do m&c, but I've certainly heard about it since, and many Italian and Greek families have baked cheesy things on the table as well.

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Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

I think it reflects that more people eat out for Thanksgiving in the Northeast than in the Midwest and South!

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Is Anyone Else a Thanksgiving Humbug?

Well, I'll say it:

I hate Thanksgiving.

It's my least favorite holiday.

Growing up, I liked the parade on TV, the day off from school, making crafts, and nibbling a sweet decadent breakfast with my mom. But I never liked the lumpy beige food, even the smell of the turkey. The most anal relatives hosted Thanksgiving, so it was a boring affair, full of constraint and making nice with cousins I didn't speak to--going out to eat was lovely, too, but the food was never as nice as on non-Thanksgiving days.

After my parent's divorce, my mom and I sometimes went to the movies or a diner, but often my grandmother would be sick, and then I was away at college...

I've had some dreadful Thanksgivings. Eating Souffer's French Bread pizza while writing my thesis for grad school. Being an undergrad, running in Connecticut on T-Day, and happening upon a lovely, stereotypical LL Bean family running with their dogs before their big turkey feast when I was alone. Fighting with my mother, refusing to come home from college, going to a friend's home in her UNHEATED New England house and then having her fight with her parents and scream at me for not eating enough for the whole weekend.

My mother and I were close during my late 20s but we never really got the 'hang' of Thanksgiving as two women living alone.

My mother has passed, and now I spend it at my father's and stepmothers. They spend most of the day inhaling meat, watching TV, and complaining about how no one speaks Greek in America.

I love Christmas--the tinsel and the lights, the joyous pastels of Easter, even the heady summer excitement of the 4th of July. I give out the best candy on Halloween. I always take my father out to eat and give him a gift on Father's Day.

But Thanksgiving can stuff it.

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Meatless 'Turkey' Taste Test

I like Boca and Morningstar patties of various kinds. I couldn't stand 'real' turkey when I ate meat as a kid, and just the word 'tofuturkey' sends chills down my digestive tract.

Veggies are fine. I won't die for one meal if there isn't a great deal of protein, but for meat eaters who are really at loose ends, how 'bout a nut tray? EVERYONE enjoys pecans, peanuts, walnuts, and so forth, and it's very seasonal.

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From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

Growing up, we didn't do m&c, but I've certainly heard about it since, and many Italian and Greek families have baked cheesy things on the table as well.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

I think it reflects that more people eat out for Thanksgiving in the Northeast than in the Midwest and South!

From Talk

Is Anyone Else a Thanksgiving Humbug?

Well, I'll say it:

I hate Thanksgiving.

It's my least favorite holiday.

Growing up, I liked the parade on TV, the day off from school, making crafts, and nibbling a sweet decadent breakfast with my mom. But I never liked the lumpy beige food, even the smell of the turkey. The most anal relatives hosted Thanksgiving, so it was a boring affair, full of constraint and making nice with cousins I didn't speak to--going out to eat was lovely, too, but the food was never as nice as on non-Thanksgiving days.

After my parent's divorce, my mom and I sometimes went to the movies or a diner, but often my grandmother would be sick, and then I was away at college...

I've had some dreadful Thanksgivings. Eating Souffer's French Bread pizza while writing my thesis for grad school. Being an undergrad, running in Connecticut on T-Day, and happening upon a lovely, stereotypical LL Bean family running with their dogs before their big turkey feast when I was alone. Fighting with my mother, refusing to come home from college, going to a friend's home in her UNHEATED New England house and then having her fight with her parents and scream at me for not eating enough for the whole weekend.

My mother and I were close during my late 20s but we never really got the 'hang' of Thanksgiving as two women living alone.

My mother has passed, and now I spend it at my father's and stepmothers. They spend most of the day inhaling meat, watching TV, and complaining about how no one speaks Greek in America.

I love Christmas--the tinsel and the lights, the joyous pastels of Easter, even the heady summer excitement of the 4th of July. I give out the best candy on Halloween. I always take my father out to eat and give him a gift on Father's Day.

But Thanksgiving can stuff it.

From Serious Eats

Meatless 'Turkey' Taste Test

I like Boca and Morningstar patties of various kinds. I couldn't stand 'real' turkey when I ate meat as a kid, and just the word 'tofuturkey' sends chills down my digestive tract.

Veggies are fine. I won't die for one meal if there isn't a great deal of protein, but for meat eaters who are really at loose ends, how 'bout a nut tray? EVERYONE enjoys pecans, peanuts, walnuts, and so forth, and it's very seasonal.

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Serious Green: 5 Simple Ways to Green Your Thanksgiving

Not eating meat! (And very little dairy, if I can get away with it).

(And biking to my destination).

From Talk

Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

Thank goodness another of my SE friends came out for pumpkin! Pumpkin pie, pumpkin bread (with chocolate chips), pumpkin muffins...not a big fan of savory or unconventional uses of pumpkin (don't like pumpkin soup or *shudder* ravioli or ice cream). And hate whipped cream on the pie. But pumpkin pie--WITH THE CRUST--all the way.

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vegetarian buffalo ________

I like Morningstar products, and although their buffalo chicken wings were too spicy for me, I'd suggest giving them a try.

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Lactose-free Thanksgiving etiquette tips/dessert ideas please!

Why not 'not fight him' and just serve him candy, attractively displayed? I'm sure the grown-ups wouldn't mind stealing a piece of two, either.

From Talk

The entertainer who doesn't feel like entertaining this year

I think the potluck sounds fantastic, or your dessert idea. If you want something no-fuss and slightly more traditional, why not just have some fancy sandwiches with 'fixings' and do a 'Thanksgiving leftover' spread?

I think lots of years families would prefer this type of Thanksgiving, but no one has the guts to say so.

From Talk

Thansgiving menu - I think I'm missing something...

You don't need a turkey! Make something that you like! And I personally dislike lemon desserts, but many people love them!

Everything is great, but you need appetizers and some good bread. Corn bread would be PERFECT with the chicken and beans. Biscuits or dinner rolls if you want more food. I would go with another vegetable, too, more of a fall-type veggie.

And lots of nibbles, like spreads and extra bread, nuts, dried fruits, cheese if you like that, and so forth, to keep everyone occupied while you finish cooking.

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Decorations for Thanksgiving Cupcakes

Cake spy had those wonderful cookie turkeys that would make lovely toppers.

Also, for a simpler touch, why not those candy corn pumpkins from the 'autumn mix'--actually any candy in brown, gold, and yellow.

More grown-up: candied ginger.

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'Koodie': Another Term to Describe the Children of Smug, Self-Satisfied, Food-Obsessed Parents

I love the retro picture, but hate Dexter. Can't wait until he grows up and starts eating peanut butter by the spoonful and drinking milk out of the carton when he turns 16.

However, watching Julia Child as a kid was FUN. That is not 'new'--JC and the Swedish chef=universal childhood delight without pretence.

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Apparently We Caused a Cookie Run...

It couldn't happen to a nicer chain--I loved Pret when I was living in the UK--it's the only chain I think of fondly!

From Talk

Tell me if this cake idea sounds good.

I like maple and pumpkin together, or pumpkin and peanut butter. No matter how light, I think the three together would be too much. A pumpkin roll with cream cheese frosting or vanilla frosting with the maple would be nice, or a peanut pumpkin combo, just topped with a sprinkle of peanuts. But I would go either/or.

The roll idea is great--like a fall version of the traditional Christmas 'Yule Log.' Serving it should be fun--depending on the flavors, lots of artful use of the filling or nuts on the top will be beautiful. I see some little foil gold leaves and maple even a tasteful edible turkey 'topper' (like a candy mold in an appropriate flavor).

From Serious Eats: New York

Where Does Your Thanksgiving Loyalty Lie?

Ed, this is why you are a true food genius--yes, yes, yes, a whole day devoted to pie!

I've never liked turkey, even when I ate meat, and always liked the sides best. But the only part of the Thanksgiving meal I LOVE is the pie. And sadly, my Thanksgivings are now spent with non-pie eaters.

I think the ideal T-day 'pie-o-paloza' would begin with a light fruit pie like apple, followed by a main course of pecan, and then ending up with a slice of pumpkin for 'dessert.' Almost a balanced meal, eh?

From Talk

And now the cake dilemma...c'est finalement l'ennui gateau

I live in NJ and have never heard tuxedo cake called a Polish cheesecake--I have heard cheesecakes made with sour cream called various Eastern European ethnic terms though.

I've always found cheesecake after a big meal to be too heavy (but then I'm not a fan). What about one of 'old time' cakes like Opera cake, German Chocolate cake, Black Forest cake or something like that.

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And now the cake dilemma...c'est finalement l'ennui gateau

What type of flavor profiles haven't you covered in your other desserts? Traditionally, I'd say you need a pumpkin and an apple flavoring (like pumpkin pie and apple cake or vice versa).

If those flavors are covered, maybe another fall flavoring, like carrot, date, or spice cake with pecans and walnuts?

You could also go crazy and try one of those super-old fashioned cakes like Lady Baltimore Cake or super-non traditional like an ice cream cake--or go really 'humble' and serve a crumb coffee cake.

From Serious Eats

The Varying Food Preferences of Conservatives and Liberals

I'm 100% liberal food-wise and political-wise according to the study. And it doesn't surprise me at all, given that questioning conventional wisdom about the way one eats and politics seems to go hand-in-hand.

From Talk

HELP! Butter free stuffing?

Why not just use vegetable broth? Stuffing isn't like a cake and requires a 1:1 substitute of something with a very similar consistency. You just need something 'wet.' There are dressing recipes with vegetables, dried fruits, nuts, bread, and spices.

From Serious Eats

Alton Brown Says No to Stuffing the Turkey

Just to throw this into the mix: for people who don't eat turkey but like stuffing, it is nice to have the stuffing as 'dressing.'

People who do eat the turkey can always take dressing, put their cut turkey slices on top of the mix, and then let the juices seep down and pour gravy on it, if desired. Those who do not eat turkey can take the stuffing and mix it with their veggies for juice. Then, everyone is happy. And if your turkey is so dry no juice dribbles into the stuffing, then you understand why I don't like turkey :)

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

Italian food has always been one of the more ingredient-driven cuisines, versus technique-driven cuisines like French and the various varieties of Chinese food. It's about starting with very high-quality ingredients and 'giving them respect.' Having high-quality ingredients that can stand on their own without much alteration can be hard for a business to do, and still sell enough pizza to stay in business.

I don't eat pizza much any more, and when I do I get just a very little bit of tomato sauce and one or two veggies, usually, not Margherita. For me, the most important and unique thing about any pizza is the crust, and that can never be 'boring,' just good or bad.

Re: toppings--I think there is a difference between getting one or two high-quality toppings, versus getting some kind of 'specialty' pie (like Hawaiian, artichoke, sausage and fennel, and so forth) because then you're throwing a completely different flavor profile into the mix.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think is the ideal cheese combo? It sounds like you're saying that, given the choice between a truly outstanding Italian-American slice, with provolone or some other cheeses in the 'mix' and the standard Margherita, you'd take the former. I think lots of people would agree with you on that choice.

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Phoenix: Impossibly Airy, Amazingly Awesome Pancakes at Matt's Big Breakfast

Oh my friggin gawd...this is just cruel that is place is half-way across the country.

I love slightly underdone pancakes. And that slightly mushy mouthful of melty butter...sigh....

From Talk

Is dating a picky eater a dealbreaker for anyone?!

Honestly, his preferences don't sound that outrageous to me. I don't like cheesecake, and I know people with very sensitive palates who don't like eggs. I try not to use many condiments to mask the taste of food.

I don't believe in deal breakers, but as others have said, what does get under my skin is treating ME as if I am weird or abnormal if I have particular tastes or only going to one or two restaurants. My father, for example, will only go to ONE restaurant in all of New York City (and one I don't like very much, frankly) and two in NJ (one of which is a seafood place, the other of which is the Olive Garden). Blood is blood, but I wouldn't put up with that from a guy I was dating.

A person can control going out to eat, though, and personal reactions to what you eat--however, if mayo makes him want to hurl, that isn't going to be something love can cure.

From Serious Eats: New York

Chocolate Chip Cookie Championship: The Uptown Edition

I've never had the Levain but many bloggers I respect have deemed them unmissable--I have one really neurotic question for the SE staff before I order one though--about how many 'single servings' are in one cookie (portion control of deliciousness being something officially endorsed by SE, right ;)

From Talk

Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

@dmcavanagh, let me know how it turns out. it really is a fantastic cake. if you don't already have a microplane zester, i highly recommend one for grating the ginger and the nutmeg.

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Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

@cybercita-----thanks for the recipe, I'm going to make this soon. This sounds like a winner, I love spicy cakes so I'm with you on increasing the amounts. Will let you know somewhere along the line how it turns out.

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Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

ha! i almost said, and by the way, the two cups of oil is correct in my original post.

the two cups of oil is NOT a typo. it's a very moist cake.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

I think in some cases it's seasonality and availability, and in others it's food culture and regional terminology.

I'm in New England and butternut squash is everywhere this time of year and there are a hundred ways to prepare it, so that may explain why it was so widely searched in the northeast.

I'd never heard of green bean casserole until I got to college and met people from other parts of the country. I think because green beans come up in the summertime here and are no longer available this late into the season.

Deviled Eggs are more of a summertime/ barbecue thing in NE for some reason, so that may explain why it wasn't searched as much.

No matter - or as some say here "irregahdless of" - whether it's in or out of the bird, people call it "stuffing" in New England. So that may explain fewer searches for dressing. And it also explains why New Hampshire was purple for "Cornbread Stuffing" and orange for "Cornbread Dressing"

From Talk

Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

Way! Love pumpkin in pretty much any form. And not that I dislike pumpkin pie, but there are other way yummier pumpkin desserts to be had - pumpkin roll with the cream cheese filling, pumpkin cheesecake, etc.

From Talk

Is Anyone Else a Thanksgiving Humbug?

I think there's a humbug for every holiday. With me it's probably Christmas Dinner. (NOT Christmas, the holiday.) I'm Italian so Christmas Eve is HUGE for me. For all I care we can order Chinese on Christmas Day.

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Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

I you don't like pumpkin pie do you count as a Real American?

It's like wanting Old Yeller to die ...

From Talk

Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

@cybercita ~ thanks so much for posting this. I'll take a wild guess that 2 cups of vegetable oil is a typo?

@angelfood ~ my hands-down favorite ice cream is pumpkin and I didn't have a recipe, even though I own an ice cream maker. Thanks for sharing.

Tip: If you have an ice cream maker like mine where you store the cylinder in the freezer ~ it makes a perfect wine/champagne chiller for the larger bottles. So yes Alton, it does multiple tasks.

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Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

here is the cake recipe as i got it originally. i up the spices considerably, using about a tablespoon each of the cinnamon and nutmeg, and two teaspoons of cloves. i also use a teaspoon of cardamom and include a thumbs worth of fresh ginger as well. it can be frosted with an orange glaze -- orange zest, juice, butter, and confectioner's sugar -- frosted with cream cheese frosting, or left plain.

it's a dump cake -- just dump all of the ingredients into a big bowl and beat.


pumpkin spice cake
3 c flour
2c sugar
1 t salt
1 t baking soda
1/2 t baking powder
2 t cinnamon
1 t ground ginger
1 t freshly ground nutmeg
1 t ground cloves
2 c vegetable oil
1 15 oz can pumpkin
4 eggs
combine all ingredients in a large bowl and beat at medium speed for 4 minutes. pour into greased and floured 12 cup bundt pan. bake at 325 for 1 hour or until done {there should not be any wet spots under the top cracks and a tester should come out clean}.
cool 20 min and turn out on rack.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

"And why in the world is Maine so interested in butternut squash?"

I'd be willing to bet that it's because this past summer was a bumper crop for butternut squash...lots of rain = big, fat squash.

I harvested lots and served lots yesterday.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

@xiaoou: your jewelery is more beautiful than KONA COFFEE.

people don't know how to make mashed potatoes? seriously?

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

This is interesting for the reason that the results could be interpreted in so many different ways and raise so many further questions. You definitely hit one on the head when you queried whether some regions don't search much for a particular dish "because they already know how." These stats would also have been interesting to see about 20 years ago (had the Internet as we know it existed). In the past 20 years or so, we've seen the rise of foodie-ism, which has probably gotten people interested in dishes that are not traditional in their own area of the country. Population shifts, too, may have some effect. For example, young Easterners who have moved to the West and Pacific Northwest to work at the Microsofts and Googles may be interested in recreating dishes they remember from back home. Fascinating.

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Pumpkin: *Way* or *No Way*

WAY in a big way but not the canned stuff. Use sweet potatoes instead. Or better yet, grow your own sugar pumpkins or kabocha squash, hopi blue or other heirloom varieties until you find the one you like best. They are easy to grow and so easy to cook and freeze. New rules against canning it so can't recommend that. I made this years pie with kabocha. I'm having a slice right now for breakfast and nibbling candied pecans on the side. Whole Foods sells them and farmer's markets have them. I use them in everything both sweet and savory. Old Uncle Gaylord's recipe for pumpkin raisin ice cream is divine! Safer to make cooked custard than use raw egg though.
PUMPKIN RAISIN ICE CREAM
4 cups half&half
1egg
2/3 cup sugar
3/4 cup pumpkin
1/4 teaspoon each: salt, nutmeg, ginger
1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
1/2 cup golden raisins (you could soak them in rum or brandy)
Mix, chill, freeze in machine

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

@shoneyjoe. you beat me to it.

@awordforthat: I think it is adjust for population, because the searches are listed as "per 10,000 searches" (I think that was the number).

We grow a lot of butternuts in the northeast. But traditionally it's just been served as pureed squash, maybe with butter, maybe with cinnamon. So I'm thinking more people were wondering if they could do something else with it. And as for Maine being more than the other NE states, we're not talking about a lot of searches, I expect. I or 2 more people could have made a difference.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

I am little bit disappointed that my state (California) is in the lead on mashed potato-related searches. Are we a state of people who can't mash potatoes?

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Martha Stewart's Macaroni and Cheese

My boyfriend and I only refer to this as crack and cheese. It's insane. I've made it a couple of different times with a couple of different cheeses, but I favor the recommended cheeses. I brought some to a friend's "mac-off" and won hands-down.

Anyone had any experience with assembling/freezing/baking this dish?

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

I live in the South...macaroni and cheese is a staple at all of our family gatherings (Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, etc.) and has been as long as I can remember. It's not Easy Mac or any of the other crap that comes out of a box, but Grandma's homemade custard-style kind.

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Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

Do we know if this is adjusted for population?

And why in the world is Maine so interested in butternut squash?

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

Mac 'n' Cheese is an African-American tradition for Thanksgiving and Christmas. If you remember Run-DMC's 'Christmas in Hollis' they mention what is served including "Ma's Mac'n'Cheese'.

It's not a tradition on my family (Mom can be a snob a times), but our extended family does.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

As a Michigander (or Michiganian, if you prefer), I was disheartened when I saw the screaming purple mitten under "green bean casserole." Thankfully, we regained status with a lighter color for "cheese ball." It was great fun to scroll through, having seen many a green bean casserole and cheese ball in my lifetime here. And like @rocquie, I have never seen mac&cheese on a Thanksgiving table.

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

I thought it was fantastic. Particularly fascinating was a side-by-side comparison of those who spelled it "sweet potato casserole" (#1) and those who typed "sweet potatoe casserole" (#40).

From Serious Eats: New York

Incredibly Cool: NYT Infographic Shows Where Thanksgiving Food Searches Come From

Very cool. And yes it was fun to scroll through. The most surprising to me was how many southerners searched for mac&cheese. I've lived in the south all my life and have never heard of a single person who said (admitted?) they were having mac&cheese for Thanksgiving. But sure, why not?

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