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Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I feel like with most chain grocery stores prices are directly related to the leverage of the store itself. Everything is brokered in such large quantities that some stores can offer slightly better deals cause there contract with the distributor allows them to.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
As a former long time Wegmans shopper and employee who is now out in Portland (WF, TJ's, Safeway, Fred Meyers, local stores) I still weep whenever I shop in WF & TJ's. WF has lukewarm, hipper than thou service (the plague of Portland) but solid produce and meats. Anything in a cardboard box is bound to cost more and I'm often disappointed by their in house brands. TJ's is very overrated in many areas - does anyone actually read the ingredients on their products? Agreed they have great prices on chocolate and pasta and such, but their produce is usually way over-packaged. Why do I need a clamshell for 4 pears? I also commend Wegmans for having had a very strong 'buy local produce' for many years. It used to be a common practice to have department managers pick produce on a local farm at least once a year.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
Control really put it well; its a good store for me. The things I value and am willing to spend money on are prevalent at Whole Foods. I can find yogurt I like that meets my requirements, good quality seafood at reasonable prices (at least at my location in Virginia) a selection of organic produce, some bulk items, and a handful of unique pantry items, too. I also like their prepped sushi as a snack/light lunch sometimes. I wouldn't confuse it with going to a good sushi bar, but its a nice change of pace from the regular lunch options out in the world.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I agree with control. I certainly shop on a budget, and I do a little over half of my shopping at Whole Foods. The layout of Whole Foods is also a plus. When I go to Fairway I feel so rushed and crowded, and at Whole Foods I can just chill and take my time.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
i've always noticed the competitive pricing since i've been shopping at my local Whole Foods
sure, a lot of the produce is more expensive, mostly because a majority of it is organic, and that's just the nature of the industry.. same goes for the meat, the meat at WF is held to a stricter, higher standard.. all-natural, all vegetarian diet, humane living conditions, no hormones/antibiotics, etc.. so even the non-organic meat is going to be more expensive, and i for one am more than willing to pay a premium to get food that i can trust in and know is safe and of high quality
but as for the grocery items, there are a ton of deals, especially on the private label 365 Everyday value line.. not only are those products also held to certain strict standards, but they're usually even cheaper than big name conventional brands, which often are comprised of lower quality ingredients
it's easy to go into a WF and see the expensive and exotic items, they simply offer more than conventional stores, but if you look beyond that and just go in with the same mindset you would have going into a conventional store - which is just to get what you need, nothing extravagent - then it's more than possible to get the same or even greater value
WF is just the perfect store for me.. their standards, not to mention the top notch customer service, is more than enough to keep me a happily devoted customer
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
Whole Foods store-brand canned soda is dirt cheap, esp. when you consider they use pure cane sugar and not HFCS. Also, the Union Square branch sells milk and butter cheaper than the nearby Food Emporium.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
whole foods is as expensive as you want to make it. that's what they're saying with the value tour/image thing. there IS a way to eat good, real, minimally-processed food without spending over your budget. comparing items is great, but you've got to compare the same items. comparing fairway meat to wf's is like comparing apples to oranges; it's just NOT the same.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
@redzerostar: Thanks for the heads up! The entry has been corrected. In the future, the best way to let Serious Eats' editors know about copy errors is to email contact@seriouseats.com.Thanks!
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
"12 ounces of storebrand bacon was $4.29 at Fairway versus $4.99 at Fairway"?
typo?
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I like Whole Foods, but they haven't opened their long-rumored Park Slope branch, yet, so I have to drag stuff home from Manhattan. I prefer Fairway (in Red Hook, the Manhattan stores ARE zoos), because it's never overly crowded, even if the parking lot is, and the lines are never more than 2 deep at checkout.
By the way, if you are going to compare Smucker's peanut butter to another brand at Whole Foods, you probably would have been better off comparing the pricing of the fresh/grind your own at the two stores. I believe they were both about $2.99/pound last I checked.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
For the "speciality" meats, fruits and vegetable, have we forgotten CSAs and farmers markets? You won't find fresher, the quality is often better and the price is competitive. I sell grass fed angus beef direct from my small family ranch at about $8 a pound. I could charge more to join in the "organic" hype, but I feel it is more important to charge a fair price for a quality product. Your local farmers markets also believe in this concept.
Visit me at ShepherdsRanchAngusBeef if you would like to learn more, or go to your state department of agriculture site to find a local farmers market near you.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I go to WF maybe once every couple months just to browse the aisles.
WF is NOT for the budget shopper who cooks from cans and buys everything based on price. It's for people who enjoy the experience of shopping. There's aesthetic appeal to their stores versus going to Costco. Also, when I've gone, the employees have been respectful.
While most things may be more expensive, for a number of things it's like comparing apples to oranges. You can't compare Russell Stovers to Charles Chocolates. I buy gifts for people there when I see funky stuff.
There are some deals (at least one :) to be had. I love baby spinach and eat it every day. The spinach at WF is the cheapest in Cleveland, including the farmers markets. I didn't notice it was organic until I threw out the container.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
My local grocery store is Wegmans (I know that several of you from above will be jealous), but I have to tell you that having only one option can get boring. We have only one other supermarket chain in the region-Tops-and for price and atmosphere, they don't come close to Wegmans. That said, Wegmans does have its faults. They are very customer service oriented but only when it is to their advantage. Their chicken is not very good and I don't buy meats or chicken there as the local butcher down the street is much better and I like to give him the business. They also have many sections where it is at least 3/4 of their own brands and I don't always like the quality of their brands.
As for WF, I love it when I visit it because it is different. Given some of their prices, I am not sure I would want to shop there all the time. I probably would still go to the local butcher and farm markets. Even before it became trendy, I used to go to farm markets. Much fresher and I like giving local people the business. When I do go to WF, I do a bit of comparison shopping as I always feel that Wegmans is very expensive in some areas like fish, produce and cheese, but I am usually proven wrong as Wegmans and WF wind up with basically the same prices on these items.
Do wish we could have a Trader Joe's here but Wegmans will never let them in the area which is just silly because I would still have to go to Wegmans for quite a bit of my shopping list. I find TJs good for Belgian chocolate, pasta, toppings like bruschetta, but that said, you can't get everything you need there. So, I am forced to visit WF and TJs when I am out of town and can only buy things that don't need a freezer. I do buy some refridgerator items occasionally and put them in a cooler bag.
For those of you who have either WF or TJs near you, consider yourselves lucky to have a choice. I guess the ultimate combo would be to have Wegmans, WF, and TJs near by!!!
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I *love* Whole Foods. I live very near the Union Square edition in Manhattan. I'm friends with two of the butchers and one of the fish mongers, and yes, their meats and fish (and cheeses and produce) *can* be more expensive than other stores, but you really get what you pay for.
That said, Whole Foods has the LEAST expensive house-brand ("365") dried pasta, organic green tea, organic canned tomatoes, crackers of every stripe, dried herbs and spices, soy milk, frozen vegetables, olive oil, peanut butter, canned beans--and more--than ANY supermarket in my area. And it's a pleasure to shop there. They have the best-managed checkout system in town, the store is clean, attractively lit, and staffed with friendly, knowledgeable people.
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I just have to chime in here. I live in Texas in a city with both Central Market and Whole Foods. Whole foods does offer both conventional and organic items. I always buy my meat and seafood from Whole Foods because the quality, even when not organic, is so far superior to that at Central Market it's not even funny. And honestly? It's cheaper. But then, I'm not buying dry-aged ribeyes (which I'm pretty sure they don't even have at CM) all the time, I'm buying things like flat-iron stead and chicken thighs. The price of boneless skinless chicken thighs (natural, not organic) at my WF is $3.99/pound. I'm not sure what they are at CM though.
I shop both at CM and WF because CM is closer to my house. Sure, they carry HEB products, but at WF, I know that they quality of the 365 stuff is better than that of HEB/CM and is completely comparable in price.
Bottom line is, I'm going to look for ways to get the best quality for my money and I can do that at WF if I pay attention and shop smart.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I went to the Walmart for the first time in awhile, expecting to get some great food deals. A bag of onions and potatoes at Walmart were much cheaper than at Whole Foods, but they were also conventional. Several things, including lemons, limes, avocados, and some seasonal produce were the same price or more. I also love the bulk bins at WF for beans, nuts, and grains. The eggs and milk were a little bit more at Whole Foods, but I'm willing to pay it because going to WF is just a better shopping experience in general. We also don't have a great grocery store selection here in New Orleans, so you can get stuff there that you can't buy anywhere else. Also, our WF is beautiful- it was converted from an old streetcar storage barn, and its not too big that is overwhelming like some I've seen in the suburbs. I'm not surprised that WF is having problems though- the staff used to be amazing, but I've started to notice that things were going downhill. They just haven't seemed as on top of their game- products are mismarked or not in stock. Anyways, I like Whole Foods overall, and I think its not too bad if you stick to "whole foods" and in season produce.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
The first (and last) time I've been to a Whole Foods was during a visit to my sister's a few years ago near Chicago. We had heard the hype surrounding WF and were also curious, but sticker shock got the better of us and we walked out with just a few prepared food items. When we got home to sample our findings, our food was quite a letdown (maybe we're picky?). I don't think my sister has been back there since. Thankfully, we had Trader Joe's out there to save us the next day.
For now, we have a Wegman's and a Giant Foods (of MD) five minutes away from our home but we've surprisingly found that Wegman's is within our conservative budget for a grad student and a recent grad. What I miss most is Giant of PA and their 2 for $4 deals on Turkey Hill iced tea!
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
Wegmans is the pinnacle of supermarkets.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I'm launching an experiment on my own blog (cookingbroke.com) taking a hard look at prices at Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and Farmer's Markets. I noticed after reading the NYTimes article that they had A LOT of signage marking what "great deals" they have. Their own brand of inner grocery items - oatmeal, chicken stock, milk, etc. are cheaper - even in some cases compared to Trader Joe's. However, if you're doing all your shopping at Whole Foods - you could still call it "Three Quarters Paycheck". So far, local produce - still the best and the cheapest.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
Here in Austin, Whole Foods is for the elitist new-fangled Yuppie Hippie class... the ones that know better than everyone else and they're not afraid to tell you... They're willing to deal with the ridiculous pricing because, well, they can afford it. They're willing to deal with the two seriously overcrowded stores in town, and the line just to get in the place... because...well, I don't know why. That's a mystery to me...
I hate Whole Foods... Give me Central Market or HEB Plus any day.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I visited my first Trader Joe's in (of all places) Manhattan. I was stunned to see organics and other "crap free" products offered at extremely economical prices.
When I talk to people about making better choices in food, I hear the same thing over and over, "It's too expensive." Trader Joe's blows that logic right out the window.
I'm trying to rally my friends into a letter-writing campaign to get a TJ in the Tampa area. Whole Foods and Fresh Market are both great but if I can get comparable or better food at a fraction of the price, that's where my dollar is going to go.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
no TJ's here (central PA) but thank goodness we got a Wegman's about 1 year ago. They have been CONSISTENTLY less than surrounding stores and their selection is phenomenal. There's a perception here that Wegman's is +++$$$ b/c they have higher end stuff available (specialty cheeses that are $25/lb) but they have awesome customer service and everyone knows what they are talking about. Yay Wegman's!
PS-when we are traveling near a TJ's-we'll stop and I'll stock up on pantry items.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I always do a combination of multiple grocery stores including Trader Joe's, Whole Foods and Shop Rite. I've always been a price sensitive shopper & going to Whole Foods for me is a special event like a reward after getting A's on your report card! You go there when you can afford it otherwise you go to Shop Rite or the local Indian grocery store for your staples. Its important from an economic standpoint to be flexible and aware of the prices in the food stores in your area.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I am also not a great Whole Foods fan. I cannot do a whole shop there.
I would rather go to Wegman's or Shop Rite. I will always go to Trader Joe's and Costco. When I am in the south we go to Lowe's Foods and Trader Joes and Costco.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I don't like Whole Foods. I blame them for the creating the perception that organic, fair trade, and/or local food has to be expensive. That it's a fashion statement. That it's a trend for snobby holier than thou elites. They do good things, for sure. They offer excellent benefits to their workers for one thing. But I think they have pushed things too far in the wrong direction. And as they have expanded and become a national chain, they have had to abandon many of the principles that they built their brand around, and yet continue to promote as such. There used to be a similar chain of grocery stores in New England called Bread and Circus, back in the day. All organic, local fair trade, "artisanal" etc. We used to call them Bread and Jerk Us. Whole Foods bought them out and I feel like that is exactly what they've been doing for the last 10 years, jerking us. It's time they get with the program. Being part of the solutions, not perpetuating the problems. Much easier said than done of course. I do wish them well. I just hope they can see that their answers lie in the micro, not macro.
Is Whole Foods Becoming Costco with a Side Order of Trader Joe's?
I was a Wild Oats shopper - their bulk section is where I buy many of my specialty baking supplies. I was so disheartened when WF bought them. I'm very fortunate that they have kept the WO style of bulk foods - "prepackaged" bulk foods is not buying in bulk, which is the style at the Sawmill Road/161 Whole Foods in Columbus. Very few items (comparatively speaking) in true "bulk" form. May as well be the Amish pseudo-bulk stores closer to home.
I'm very disappointed in the elimination of bulk spices at the former Wild Oats location. It was nice to be able to buy 2 or 3 nutmeg, or 1/2 oz of star anise...no more.
As for general shopping, WF doesn't do it for us. We appreciate buying local at the farmers markets, but are not "true" organic shoppers. I would rather buy my meats from locally owned butcher shops that focus on Ohio-raised beef, pork and poultry, such as Carfagna's. Or, stock up on "fair beef or pork" at the places in Mount Vernon.
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I feel like with most chain grocery stores prices are directly related to the leverage of the store itself. Everything is brokered in such large quantities that some stores can offer slightly better deals cause there contract with the distributor allows them to.