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Should I brine a preinjected bird?
salt content should be 6% for brines. not sure if injected birds carry the same percentage.
Potatos in the refrigerator crisper drawer.
An easy way to not F up fruit and veg storage... store them exactly how they are stored in the supermarket. Potatoes are not refrigerated. Herbs and Lettuces are refrigerated. It's so simple.
Also pay attention to where they are stored. Bananas are away from other produce because placing other fruits and veg in a close proximity to bananas promotes quicker rotting. Ethylene gas is the culprit, and only some produce releases it in large amounts that will hasten rot. Tomatoes, avocados and melons should also be stored far away from other fruit and veg.
Potato Leek Soup questions
This soup is so easy that I would'nt worry about making it in advance. It tastes just fine using water as a base. No fancy chicken stock or veg stock needed. Trust me. All you need is:
5 Yukon Gold potatoes, peeled, chopped and boiled in salted water until tender
1 leek, white and pale green parts only, sliced thin
1 clove garlic, peeled and sliced thin
1 small to medium onion, peeled and sliced thin
A couple sprigs of fresh thyme
Olive oil, to sweat the leek and onion
The water you used to boil the potatoes (about 2 quarts)
A few knobs unsalted butter
Kosher salt
Freshly ground black pepper
Boil the potatoes. Sweat the veg in olive oil with thyme. Add the boiled potatoes and the potato water into the pan with the veg. Reduce to desired consistency. Remove the thyme stems and puree in a blender. Pour back into the pan and check the consistency, reducing further if necessary. Season to taste and add some butter at the very end of cooking.
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Potatos in the refrigerator crisper drawer.
True! Don't you think it defeats the purpose when they ship fruit baskets out that way? :)
Should I brine a preinjected bird?
salt content should be 6% for brines. not sure if injected birds carry the same percentage.
Potatos in the refrigerator crisper drawer.
An easy way to not F up fruit and veg storage... store them exactly how they are stored in the supermarket. Potatoes are not refrigerated. Herbs and Lettuces are refrigerated. It's so simple.
Also pay attention to where they are stored. Bananas are away from other produce because placing other fruits and veg in a close proximity to bananas promotes quicker rotting. Ethylene gas is the culprit, and only some produce releases it in large amounts that will hasten rot. Tomatoes, avocados and melons should also be stored far away from other fruit and veg.
Potato Leek Soup questions
This soup is so easy that I would'nt worry about making it in advance. It tastes just fine using water as a base. No fancy chicken stock or veg stock needed. Trust me. All you need is:
5 Yukon Gold potatoes, peeled, chopped and boiled in salted water until tender
1 leek, white and pale green parts only, sliced thin
1 clove garlic, peeled and sliced thin
1 small to medium onion, peeled and sliced thin
A couple sprigs of fresh thyme
Olive oil, to sweat the leek and onion
The water you used to boil the potatoes (about 2 quarts)
A few knobs unsalted butter
Kosher salt
Freshly ground black pepper
Boil the potatoes. Sweat the veg in olive oil with thyme. Add the boiled potatoes and the potato water into the pan with the veg. Reduce to desired consistency. Remove the thyme stems and puree in a blender. Pour back into the pan and check the consistency, reducing further if necessary. Season to taste and add some butter at the very end of cooking.
northern new jersey help
Restaurant MC in Millburn, NJ on Main St. - You won't be disappointed!
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Brussels sprouts are tough to cook perfectly if left whole. They are tightly bound that the inside will never cook at the same rate as the exterior. This leaves you with a soggy, overcooked exterior which is why most people despise brussels sprouts. In most high quailty restaurants, they chop of the ends and peel off the individual leaves. They are then boiled shortly in heavily salted water, cooled immediately with ice water to stop the cooking, and then drained and tossed in a pan, as needed, with butter and seasoning. Brussels sprouts pair particularly well with pork and a rich cream-peppercorn sauce.
white trash/trailer trash theme party food idea?
olddad, look on a map
Lasagna
Lol... you guys are all ridiculous. I'm done with this lame thread.
Is Mayo Making a Comeback?
Homemade Mayonnaise is very easy and cheap to make. You can serve it plain or liven it up with herbs, sriracha sauce, or anything else that comes to mind. See the link below for a video instruction. The most important tip is to use a healthy, neutral oil, such as canola oil. The recent mass-marketing of extra virgin olive oil mayo is more about tricking consumers (since most of us know olive oil is healthy) than for achieving optimum flavor.
Help! Sauce for crab cakes?
Homemade mayo with sriracha sauce to taste and some extra lemon juice if needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sriracha_sauce
You have the mayonnaise base with some acidity from the lemon and a nice balanced heat from the sriracha sauce. It's a very simple cold sauce with complex flavors.
Jalapeno burn
I mince chiles all the time. If I'm mincing a lot of habaneros or other very spicy chiles, I will wear latex gloves. If I am mincing a single habanero or mild chiles like jalapenos, I don't even bother. I like the burn to some degree; just don't touch your eyes or your downstairs :)
Lasagna
Bechamel is better for thickening macaroni and cheese than for use in lasagna. You really need soft cheese for the traditional flavor of lasagna. I think the problem with the watery-ness commonly associated with using ricotta results from improper preparations or maybe just cheap ricotta. Everyone has their own way, but that's just my humble two sense.
white trash/trailer trash theme party food idea?
Oh I know that joyyy.. thank you. I just thought it would be more fun to incorporate that side of things. I've been to parties like that before and they were a lot of fun. However, my quarrel is with sbelle and her attitude which is being carried over from a different post. No worries joyyy.
white trash/trailer trash theme party food idea?
There you go trashing my posts again sbelle... nothing better to do today or just like hearing yourself talk? Last time I checked the majority of these type of people come from Southeast Central USA and the majority of that crowd fits into these schemas.
Lasagna
You did just that. Posted to hear yourself talk. You didn't contribute anything other than your tempermental opinion. Happy cooking... if you can :)
Lasagna
Sbelle... your only contribution to this post was to mock me? I think you need to work on your temper. Keller is one of the few chefs that I actually trust because he is close to perfect. I don't blindly follow him, but I have faith in him. I read all of his books, attended culinary school, understand his methods. I know that the advice he gives is sound. Batali is and never will be on the same level as Keller for general food knowledge and preparation.
To finish, I provided a recipe from an esteemed chef instead of a family recipe (which seems quite average by the way) handed down from my grandmother who I claimed to be the best chef in the world. YOU take a chill pill, sbelle.
Lasagna
Lol, Jerzee... everyone thinks their personal experiences are best. It's all bias. I get what you're saying about the stringy mozzerella cheese acting as mortar to hold the lasagna together. However, having made this lasagna without mozzerella cheese between each layer, I can say that it held together perfectly without it. Traditionally, the topping of lasagna is supposed to consist of mozzerella, not the layers. The ricotta and egg mixture does the job quite well. The only thing that additional mozzerella would do aside from hurting your wallet would be to create excess oil and water.
TK's recipe is proven through his success. You don't have to research others and compare to see which one is better; just have faith in knowing that he would'nt publish any bad recipe in his books. His isn't watery or lacking flavor like most lasagna. Addtionally, he's closer to traditional than you might think since lasagna started as an Italian peasant dish that didn't incorporate meat. The way he builds the sauce is very authentic.
Video: Coolio Makes Deep-Fried Turkey
"We gonna inject him like a junkie on 42nd street!"
Lasagna
@JerzeeTomato... I'm pretty sure Thomas Keller is one of the best chefs in the world. His lasagna recipe is not extravagant, it was devised to feed his staff. I made it before and it tasted good, although I would have liked ground beef in the mixture.
And check the recipe again... there's mozzarella in the ingredients.
Lasagna
This recipe is by Chef Thomas Keller.
Lasagna
Yield: 9 servings
For the Sauce:
½ cup olive oil
1 ½ cups minced yellow onions
2 tablespoons minced garlic
½ cup tomato paste
8 cups peeled, chopped tomatoes (about 12 to 14 medium tomatoes cut into rough 1-inch pieces)
¼ cup chopped oregano
2 tablespoons chopped basil (optional)
For the Filling:
1 ½ pounds whole-milk ricotta
3 large eggs
½ cup chopped parsley
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
To assemble:
1 pound lasagna noodles
½ pound fresh mozzarella, grated
Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
For the Sauce:
Heat the oil in a large, heavy pot. Add the onions and garlic and cook gently for 4 to 5 minutes, or until translucent. Add the tomato paste and cook, stirring frequently, for 10 minutes (the tomato paste will separate from the oil and the oil will turn a vivid orange). Add the tomatoes and stir to combine.
The sauce can be completed on the stove top or in the oven. The oven method requires less attention but a longer cooking time. For the stove-top, simmer the sauce gently for 1 ½ to 2 hours, stirring and scraping the bottom of the pot every 10 minutes to prevent scorching. For the oven method, preheat the oven to 325 degrees F. Bring the tomatoes to a simmer on top of the stove, cover the pot with a parchment-paper lid, and place the pot in the oven for 3 to 4 hours. The indirect, even heat from the oven allows the sauce to cook without scraping the bottom of the pan.
When the sauce is done, it should be thick, slightly chunky, and reduced to about 1 quart. Add the oregano and let cool to room temperature (about 1 hour) before assembling the lasagna.
For the Filling:
In a large bowl, whisk together the ricotta and eggs until completely blended. Add the parsley and salt and pepper to taste and mix until well combined. Refrigerate until you are ready to assemble the lasagna. Cook the noodles in a large pot of boiling salted water according to the package directions. Drain the noodles and allow them to cool slightly. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
To Assemble:
Spread a thin layer (¾ to 1 cup) of the sauce over the bottom of a 9- by 13-inch baking pan. Place a layer of noodles (no more than one quarter of them) in the pan, slightly overlapping them. Spread half of the ricotta mixture evenly over the noodles and top with another layer of noodles. Reserve 1 cup of the remaining sauce and spread the rest over the noodles, completely covering them. Arrange another layer of noodles on top and cover with the remaining ricotta mixture. Top with a final layer of noodles and spoon the reserved sauce over them. Toss the grated mozzarella with salt and pepper to taste. (to give the cheese more flavor) and sprinkle it over the top.
Bake for 45 minutes to 1 hour, or until the mozzarella is a spotted golden brown and the lasagna is hot throughout.
You could also make a Bolongnaise base. Look up "Ramsay Bolongaise" in YouTube and omit the ground beef for your vegetarian friends. It should probably be subsituted with something with a likeness to meat though.
The Food Lab: Turkey Stuffed Turkey
The Temperature Danger Zone for bacterial growth is 41-135 F. 135 F and above is fine. Good restaurants cook poultry to 140-145 F.
Potentially Hazardous Food:
-Moist Foods
-Neutral or Slightly Acidic pH (bacteria grows well between pH's of 4.6 - 7.5)
-Foods High in Protein (Fish, Eggs, Poultry, Melons, Dairy, etc)
FAT TOM: Food, Acidity, Temperature, Time, Oxygen, and Moisture
(The conditions needed by foodborne microorganisms to grow)
Populations at High Risk for Foodborne Illness:
-The Elderly, Pregnant Women, Infants & Children, Medicated or Chronically Ill
(Raw Ingredients/Foods that are not fully cooked, like oysters, raw meats and sushi are not safe for this population to consume)
It's not all about cooking temperature. Food can also become unsafe by purchasing from unsafe sources, using contaminated equipment, chemicals or physical objects added to food, holding or reheating it at improper temperatures, not cooling hot food quickly if eating leftovers later, leaving food in the temperature danger zone for 2 hours or more, poor personal hygiene, unsanitary surfaces, contaminated cloths/towels that transport microorganisms and not washing hands.
More often than not, foodborne illness is caused by these issues rather than improper internal cooking temperatures in protein. The truth is that most people tend to overcook meat.
Taste Test: Finding the Best Apples for Baking
Granny Smith and Braeburns are also good.
white trash/trailer trash theme party food idea?
You definitely need some Pabst Blue Ribbon or Old Milwaukee beer held together by the clear plastic. Go to the dollar store and look around for some more things to make it fit the mood. I like the mint toothpicks idea. Definitely pork rinds! And everyone should dress in overalls or plaid. It would be cool if the utensils looked like mini-pitchforks or hoes. Hog should be on the menu along with some road-kill. A whole pig turning on a spicket with a beer can in its mouth would be cool. For the sides, everything should be canned. Canned creamed corn, peeled white potatoes with dried parsley, baby carrots, peas. Tell someone to bring a banjo too!
Chicago BBQ is Better than Memphis BBQ
There are several types of BBQ sauce. Most traditional BBQ sauces either use tomato sauce, mustard, or vinegar as a base, and they come a variety of thicknesses. Each state also specializes in certain types of meat.
Kansas City barbecue typically consists of brisket and burnt ends, pork, lamb, and beef ribs, steaks, chicken and turkey. Their barbecue sauces are tomato based, thick, sweet, spicy and sticky.
Meat used in South Carolina is consistent throughout the state, slow-cooked, hickory-smoked pulled pork. They are more mustard based, but feature some vinegar too. North Carolina also uses much pork but their barbecue sauce is usually vinegar based, thin and runny.
Memphis-style barbecue is known for wet ribs made with a mild, sweet BBQ sauce that's basted on the ribs before and after smoking; dry-rub crusted ribs, made with a spice rub that forms a crust on the surface, applied during or right after they've been cooked; and pulled pork.
East Texas barbecue is an extension of traditional southern barbecue, similar to that found in Tennessee and Arkansas. It is primarily pork-based, with cuts such as pork shoulder and pork ribs, indirectly slow smoked over primarily hickory wood. The sauce is tomato-based, sweet, and thick. It's most common in Houston and Dallas. West Texas features "Cowboy" barbecue, cooked over an open pit using direct heat from mesquite. The meat is primarily beef, shoulder clods and brisket being favorite cuts, mutton and goat.
Barbecue in St. Louis often uses pork and features a sauce that is typically tangier and thinner than its Kansas City cousin, with less vinegar taste. It somewhat resembles the Memphis style sauce.
While barbecue is typically associated with tough cuts of meat, barbecue ribs in Chicago BBQ tends to be from very good cuts of pork, perhaps because of the abundance of good meat and resulting higher expectations in this meat industry town. South- and West-side Chicago is noted for smoked ribs and Deep South style rib sauce.
Of course this is all American BBQ. Brasilians and people of other Latin heritage are disgusted at all the sweet sauces we mop on our BBQ. Look up Rodizio in google if you aren't familiar with it yet. There are many Churrascarias that come to your table every 5 minutes and serve up to 15 types of BBQ meat that Americans don't normally define as BBQ. But it's so good that it doesn't need sauce!
Chicago BBQ is Better than Memphis BBQ
Chicago BBQ may be better than Memphis BBQ, but neither is as good as Kansas City BBQ!
The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics
@chascates: This will be my third year (Thanksgiving and Christmas each year) brining a Heritage bird and I have not noticed any increased gaminess. I am not a big fan of gaminess, so I think I probably would have noticed!
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Roasted, esp. Ina's version, seems to have won the day here. But the last couple of times I made brussels sprouts it was from a recipe (and I can't remember where I got it) that directed that they be run through the slicing disc of a Cuisinart so they are basically shredded. Sauteed with half olive oil and half butter, some shallots, and then lots of chestnuts, those sprouts were FABulous, and even better than roasting IMHO.
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Roasted simply with olive oil or grilled is the way my husband prepares them, then served with a little black pepper.
As was mentioned earlier, if they don't dig sulfurous foods it's going to be a little difficult.
I've found that they suck as reheated leftovers.
Taste Test: Finding the Best Apples for Baking
I used to use Golden Delish (with skin on) in my pies. Keeping the skin on, helped maintain the firmness of this otherwise, kind of mushy apple, and their relative sweetness allowed me to cut back on the sugar I would normally add. However, after finding them at the farmer's market in Union Square, I've become a Mutsu/Crispin convert. You only need one (one!) apple to fill an entire, normal depth, pie and these apples compliment traditional pie spices really well. I'm making two for thanksgiving (a regular one and a bacon cheddar one)!
My mom, on the other hand, uses freshly picked Cortland apples and has for years.
The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics
Thank you Kenji! I absolutely trust your view about the salt vs. aromatics, so I will follow your suggestion for a 6% solution of salt brine and go ahead with the open-air chilling as well.
Happy Thanksgiving!
The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics
@yayfood: That sounds about right to me. Open-air chilling helps dry out the skin which makes it crisp up faster in the oven.
I really wouldn't expect much in terms of flavor from the aromatics added to the brine though - not much flavor penetrates during brining because the flavorful molecules need to compete with the salt for space in the turkey, and the salt ions usually win because of their charge. The fact that they are added to the brine cold also means that not much flavor extraction will take place. But I supposed it couldn't hurt either way.
Just remember to keep everything cold while it's brining!
Good luck.
The Food Lab: Turkey Brining Basics
@ Kenji - It's getting down to the wire now, and I'm about to put my bird into the brine. I was thinking of following the suggestion in this this article (halfway down the page, labeled "Best Way Brined Air-Chilled Turkey") from the San Francisco Chronicle that recommends brining for 12-24 hours and then dry chilling, uncovered in the refrigerator for another 12-24. The article says it makes for a moist and flavorful bird, but I'm concerned about ruining my bird. It's a 19 lb organic bird, so I was going to shoot for 24 hours in the brine and 24 drying. What are your thoughts on this method?
Should I brine a preinjected bird?
Here's the deal. The salt will try to equalize itself between the turkey and the surrounding salty water. If the brine is weaker, you'll draw salt out of the bird. If the brine is stronger, you'll have a saltier bird, up to the level in the brine.
But part of the idea of brining is to add other flavors along with the salt. So in theory you could brine an injected bird and the salt moving in and out of the bird would carry your other flavors along with the salt.
So you don't have to brine an injected bird, but you can if you want to add more flavor.
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Several years back, I found a recipe for maple roasted brussel sprouts, and thought I'd make them for a Thanksgiving dinner that I was inviting a few friends who were British ex-pats. My friend Simon and his wife had become US citizens earlier that year, and it was their first Thanksgiving as citizens. He loves brussel sprouts, my kids hate the vegetable.. at least they did until they tried these. They were even eating the leftovers the next day cold out of the fridge. It's pretty simple. For each 2 pounds of brussel sprouts (washed, trimmed and halved) you coat them with an emulsion of 3 tbsp olive oil and 2 tbsp of maple syrup. Place the coated sprouts in a roasting pan, sprinkle them with sea salt and fresh ground pepper and roast them at 425 degrees, for any where between 25 to 35 minutes (it depends on your oven) til a sharp knive slides in easily. They are slightly carmelized and taste wonderful. They certainly aren't the typical, sad sack, nasty brussel sprouts of my childhood. I've also served them with toasted walnuts and dried cranberries stirred in. My kids ask me to make these regularly as soon as they start noticing brussel sprouts showing up at the farmer's market and grocery store.
Jalapeno burn
Dawn works (not any other brand). It cuts the capsicum oil from the pepper. Rub the dawn on your hands and let it set for a couple minutes, then rinse with cold water. We used it when I worked in law enforcement to decontaminate inmates sprayed with pepper spray.
Jalapeno burn
Those must have been some hot jalapenos. I've often had minor difficulties after cutting up jalapenos and serranos but never to the point of actually damaging my skin or causing hours of pain. Basically, it was nothing a rinse in half & half didn't fix. Habeneros, on the other hand, freak me out. Once I was sure I was going to wind up blind.
Anyway chilimama, the point I'm trying to make is that the peppers you had there sound like freaks of nature.
Taste Test: Finding the Best Apples for Baking
I like Ida Reds but can't find them anymore. I use a mix of Gala, Granny Smith and Macintosh. Not really much variety here in the stores, lucky to get those. The best way to get great tasting heirloom apple varieties is to plant a tree or two in your yard. If you are lucky enough to have a yard. We have seven acres and went a little crazy. Here are two great nurseries with excellent quality and service :
http://www.vintagevirginiaapples.com/
http://www.raintreenursery.com/
We have planted 30 or so fruit trees and we're waiting....in 3 more years they should start producing. What we're going to do with it all I don't know, but we just couldn't resist all the different varieties!
Help with Brussels Sprouts
MM I just made a huge pan of these and received a number of "wow, I never liked brussels sprouts before, but these are great!"
Here's my recipe:
Brussels sprouts, washed, stems trimmed and sliced into 6 parts (or quarters)
1 c. chopped walnuts
lots of kosher salt and pepper
3-4 TBS brown sugar crumbled over the sprouts
liberal sprinkling of balsamic vinegar
optional: 4-6 slices of bacon or pancetta chopped
Combine in a large roasting pan and bake at 350 F for 25 mins.
Add 1/3-1/2 c of water to the pan, and return to oven for 5-7 mins until water is evaporated.
Photo/more explanation here:
http://kitchendreamer.blogspot.com/2009/11/intern-thanksgiving.html
Help! Sauce for crab cakes?
Really, a great crab cake needs nothing, but if I needed an accent or flavor garnish I use the mustard sauce from Joe's Stone Crab. You'll have to search it, but it is really good!
Should I brine a preinjected bird?
Skip the brine....Its already been done for you!
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Thanks to everyone for some great ideas! It sound like Ina's version is huge on here, I'll be sure to check it. Hope everyone has a wonderful Thanksgiving!
The Food Lab: Turkey Stuffed Turkey
That looks really yummy. I hope I can find the energy to try it. I actually own a meat grinder already.
Help! Sauce for crab cakes?
@climbhighak - Excellent point on the jalapenos. They probably get overlooked a lot with sea food, even though hot sauces are often mentioned as favorite accompaniments. A jalapeno mayo would be quite tasty.
Help with Brussels Sprouts
When I was in the kitchen at Craftsteak I cleaned and cooked up some brussel sprouts. They were cooked over medium high heat in clarified butter with s&p. And they were outstandingly delicious.
Should I brine a preinjected bird?
I accidentally brined a pre-injected turkey once (I didn't read the label carefully until later) and it came out fine. It wasn't too salty, and it was very moist, so in my experience it doesn't hurt anything.
Taste Test: Finding the Best Apples for Baking
I made my first batch of applesauce 35 years ago at the suggestion of my new MIL with Courtlands and since I bought a couple of bushels I would use them for pies and crisps as well. They don't require added sugar and the sauce is pink and the kids always thought that the color made it special. Each year I find I run out sooner than I should since there are more grandkids:-)
Should I brine a preinjected bird?
Every single bird at my grocery store was marked as containing up to 8% solution. I am dry brining anyway. I made a turkey breast a few weeks ago and it had up to 15% solution (never buying just a breast again!). I wouldn't do it with a kosher bird, but I don't think that the salt content is anywhere near brining in these solutions.
Should I brine a preinjected bird?
The job has been done for you, you"ve saved yourself time, money and work.
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Ina's here, too, but I am really tempted to take your word for it and try all the other recipes here at another time.
I don't do brussel sprouts on Thanksgiving. I do steamed broccoli with butter and Alton's ginger-ale carrots.
Help with Brussels Sprouts
Again, Ina's in with her roasted brussels..
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True! Don't you think it defeats the purpose when they ship fruit baskets out that way? :)