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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@simon, I have come across several of your posts where you display quite the douchebag sort of attitude that you claim I possess. Practice what you preach. At least I didn't piss off HeartofGlass, Miss Congeniality of Serious Eats - that was all you!

My intent is not to attack anyone - Thank you joeqboo, this is the internet and we're allowed to have personal opinions.

@eatwelloften: See my post above at 1:10 pm for my reply. Type "Leeks" in Google while your at it and read the most popular link that details its culinary uses.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@Martini Me: First of all, consomme is not even close to stock. Stock doesn't have egg whites, ground meat and an abundance of tomatoes. Stock also doesn't start with using stock (like consomme does) nor does it require a raft of vegetables to clarify the liquid. Stock starts from water. The beauty of consomme is that you can add all of these ingredients, which makes it look utterly inedible in the beginning stages, and after the impurities have attached to the raft, it becomes crystal clear.

Secondly, if Jacques was cooking for a panel of Master Chef's, he would definitely use leek whites for his best stock. When he cooks for the American public, he doesn't mind using either but he still suggests using the whites in his book. To gain an audience that lacks the same knowledge and skills as him, Jacques and other TV personalities must dumb down their cooking. You see it all the time on Food Network. Most ordinary cooks won't understand buying a leek to only use 1/3 of it. They can't sense bitterness in leek greens because they don't look for it. They haven't made stock 1000+ times like he has. They can't distinguish great from just okay. Home cooks will also never understand how to think like a professional chef. They don't have the palates, the patience or the experience. The recipes for stock in the culinary institute that I attended were overseen by our Deans, one of which is Mr. Jacques Pepin. All of our stock recipes urged to use only the white and light green parts of the leeks. Thomas Keller suggests the same thing!

Lastly, if professor's idea of enlightening people is by calling them a jackass, how can you defend him? Despite strongly believing what I believe in, I never made any condescending remarks to any person in here or attacked them in any way. Professor needs to lighten up, not get so defensive and realize he/she is wrong sometimes. Sorry for trying to lend my piece of mind when I have years of experience with this topic. I never thought everyone would be so uptight about it.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@Martini Me: Consomme is not stock.

@Professor: I take it from your user name that you like to educate people too, perhaps for the sake of boosting your own ego. I have noticed that in your other posts, you suggest what you believe in is the only correct way too - i.e. buying eggs only from a farmer's market because the whites in the supermarket eggs are too thin and runny and the yolks are yellow, not orange. We all know this has to do with the chicken's diet and the freshness of the egg, not where you buy it. Supermarkets can have fresh eggs from healthy chickens too you know. The difference between you and me is that I actually have knowledge. Maybe you should take others up on some of their advice sometimes, Professor Jackass.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@eatwelloften: Unless Pepin has different recipes for the same thing, page 38 of his book referenced below says to use the whites of the leeks.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HOKJA21UVxIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Jacques+Pepin's+complete+techniques&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

To all: Do whatever you want, as long as it makes you happy. I was simply trying to tell you the correct way to make stock. Too often, I see people throw whatever they have laying around in their stock. The stockpot is not a compost bin. Using a few leek greens for a bouquet garni in the stock is okay, but too much will turn the stock green and make it bitter.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@simon, I have come across several of your posts where you display quite the douchebag sort of attitude that you claim I possess. Practice what you preach. At least I didn't piss off HeartofGlass, Miss Congeniality of Serious Eats - that was all you!

My intent is not to attack anyone - Thank you joeqboo, this is the internet and we're allowed to have personal opinions.

@eatwelloften: See my post above at 1:10 pm for my reply. Type "Leeks" in Google while your at it and read the most popular link that details its culinary uses.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@Martini Me: First of all, consomme is not even close to stock. Stock doesn't have egg whites, ground meat and an abundance of tomatoes. Stock also doesn't start with using stock (like consomme does) nor does it require a raft of vegetables to clarify the liquid. Stock starts from water. The beauty of consomme is that you can add all of these ingredients, which makes it look utterly inedible in the beginning stages, and after the impurities have attached to the raft, it becomes crystal clear.

Secondly, if Jacques was cooking for a panel of Master Chef's, he would definitely use leek whites for his best stock. When he cooks for the American public, he doesn't mind using either but he still suggests using the whites in his book. To gain an audience that lacks the same knowledge and skills as him, Jacques and other TV personalities must dumb down their cooking. You see it all the time on Food Network. Most ordinary cooks won't understand buying a leek to only use 1/3 of it. They can't sense bitterness in leek greens because they don't look for it. They haven't made stock 1000+ times like he has. They can't distinguish great from just okay. Home cooks will also never understand how to think like a professional chef. They don't have the palates, the patience or the experience. The recipes for stock in the culinary institute that I attended were overseen by our Deans, one of which is Mr. Jacques Pepin. All of our stock recipes urged to use only the white and light green parts of the leeks. Thomas Keller suggests the same thing!

Lastly, if professor's idea of enlightening people is by calling them a jackass, how can you defend him? Despite strongly believing what I believe in, I never made any condescending remarks to any person in here or attacked them in any way. Professor needs to lighten up, not get so defensive and realize he/she is wrong sometimes. Sorry for trying to lend my piece of mind when I have years of experience with this topic. I never thought everyone would be so uptight about it.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@Martini Me: Consomme is not stock.

@Professor: I take it from your user name that you like to educate people too, perhaps for the sake of boosting your own ego. I have noticed that in your other posts, you suggest what you believe in is the only correct way too - i.e. buying eggs only from a farmer's market because the whites in the supermarket eggs are too thin and runny and the yolks are yellow, not orange. We all know this has to do with the chicken's diet and the freshness of the egg, not where you buy it. Supermarkets can have fresh eggs from healthy chickens too you know. The difference between you and me is that I actually have knowledge. Maybe you should take others up on some of their advice sometimes, Professor Jackass.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

@eatwelloften: Unless Pepin has different recipes for the same thing, page 38 of his book referenced below says to use the whites of the leeks.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HOKJA21UVxIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Jacques+Pepin's+complete+techniques&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false

To all: Do whatever you want, as long as it makes you happy. I was simply trying to tell you the correct way to make stock. Too often, I see people throw whatever they have laying around in their stock. The stockpot is not a compost bin. Using a few leek greens for a bouquet garni in the stock is okay, but too much will turn the stock green and make it bitter.

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Any Use for Leek Tops?

The stock pot is not a trash bin; don't throw scraps or inferior ingredients into the stock pot and expect the result to be satisfactory. The green parts will make your stock bitter, not to mention devoid of any true leek flavor. When you make stock, wash your vegetables. Peel your onions, peel your carrots. Don't throw in just anything. Have some pride in cooking, will you?

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d) Moroccan

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A waaaay past date can of black winter truffle breakings. Help!

Simon, don't you have anything better to do than wake up and sit at the computer 24/7 berating people? It's 2010, get a life.

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"May I see the wine list?" "No problem." ???!!!

Shecooks, what is more likely:

1) That people overuse "Thank Yous" and "You're Welcomes", even for situations that don't warrant the response, like joyyy stated?

or...

2) That waitstaff members around the country are suddenly replacing customary replies with an abundance of No Problems in an attempt to piss you off?

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"May I see the wine list?" "No problem." ???!!!

You can't judge waitstaff etiquette on one recent visit to a restaurant. Go to a couple more restaurants and if you receive the same replies, then you're onto something... but I highly doubt it. The more you pay attention to the "No Problems", the more likely you will notice its use of frequency as oppose to the "Thank You's", which we as society nowadays take for granted. The Thank You's are probably just going over your head.

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A waaaay past date can of black winter truffle breakings. Help!

Don't worry resolute... anytime someone shows an ounce of intellect on SE, simon berates and belittles them and then says "ANYWAY". I don't buy that canned crap either.

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Gui Fieri's REAL name?!

"W-igger" = A white person who wants to be black is a slang term used to describe white people. It is not a racial nickname that spreads hatred towards an ethnic culture, but rather another subculture most people find ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with the term Guido, (at least not in the past 20 years) especially if Guy Fieri refers to himself as one.

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

simon, are you sure you're not professorchaos as well?

I did some reading of your posts and you're not always that polite. maybe a part of you admires ChefR0bert. Particularly in your multiple comments against MeatGuy, trashing him in "The $449 SousVide Supreme: Worth It?" Thread

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

I guess we should all believe whatever "simon" says. Face it simon, you didn't like that I came back with an answer to your rude statement against me.

This is childish, it's sad.

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

I don't remember. The guy posted hundreds of times and I was cycling through random posts of his this morning. I just joined this site. Who cares? I don't know why this is an issue.

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

This is a food forum. Most of us are cooks, chefs, or foodies. Rob and Robert are very common names. Serious Eats makes many references to NYC, NJ, and PA restaurants. What is more likely: That I recreated a strikingly similar user name to pass as a polite alter ego when I could've created a totally different name? Or that you're picking on me because I replied to your question about my comment with a good answer and that my user name is just a coincidence?

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

Simon, I don't know why you're picking on me but I can assure you I'm not him.

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

Yes, I believe so. And after reading some of his posts, I can see what you mean about confrontational. I wish I could change my user name now.

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What's the Most Controversial thing you have ever Consumed?

@amandarama, rabbit is not controversial, but eating a bunny on Easter is... heh heh

I've eaten elk, horse, ostrich, turtle, frog, insects, several endangered fish, along with many forms of offal and foie gras dozens of times. I don't think I'm ready for cannabalism just yet :)

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

@chisai... I'm sorry for the confusion. I looked him up. He's 28 from nj and I'm 35 from nyc. I wish I could've used an O instead of a 0 for my name, but Serious Eats said the name was already taken :) No worries, I am nice.

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

@chisai, I don't see a chefrobert in this thread and I'm confused as to why you are all inquiring in the first place.

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

@simon... I'm sorry that you couldn't comprehend that statement. Think of fire extinguishers. Most restaurants have them, but they are seldom used. Make sense now??

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The $449 SousVide Supreme: Worth It?

Kenji, try steaming the lobsters, removing the meat, cooling it down, sealing it with whole butter and fine sea salt and then heating it in a 125 F water bath. I have had great results this way.

I'm very surprised to hear that you have had better results cooking burgers sous vide than by grilling. Though, I think most of us will stick to grilling! :)

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Microwaves in nice restaurants???

Microwaves are seldom used in high-quality restaurants, but that's not to say they don't exist in most of them. A few Michelin-star quality chefs use them for dehydration of veg. to make veg. powders. I've never heard of reheating food and serving it to customers though - that sounds strange. I would ask them how they reheated it and inform them that what heard sounded like a microwave.

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The $449 SousVide Supreme: Worth It?

@deglazer, you're right. Plain butter with some salt is all you need if finishing lobster sous vide (steaming first of course). Beurre monte is generally used without employing the sous vide method.

@meat guy... I've been working in fine dining restaurants for a couple years now and we always have regular clientel, little to no incidences of food poisoning, satisfactory food regulatory scores, and quality reviews in published articles. You may be well informed with bacteriology and food safety in terms of general cooking, but sous vide isn't your forte - I can tell. I'm not going to even attempt to spell it out for you, instead you should read a good Sous Vide book. I find it hard to believe that such a hater of this method would actually have 20 years experience in cooking that way. You may have a lot of experience with meat, meat guy. I would never assume to say you do not know advanced butcher knowledge, so please do not assume to think you can cook better than a professional chef.

FYI - Sous vide is simply NOT reheating food in a bag then throwing it on a plate. It's used more for parcooking, speedy marination and textural changes in food.

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