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Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

Hey Robyn, I know you don't. True cider, which was once the most traditional American drink, is coming back, but prohibition basically wiped it out of our collective consciousness.

I'll keep an eye out for good articles (I realize the site I linked to is way too thorough for the standard curious citizen) but I will reiterate a 2 key points from my previous post:

1) The juice is the key. Mass market, pasteurized cider is very sweet, and probably not much else. A good juice blend needs a balance of high sugar with some balanced acid, aromatics and (most elusive, given our modern apples) tannin. Raw juice is best, but UV-treated is a lot better than fully pasteurized. Heat robs the juice of its more subtle aromas. A typical home fermenter would be well served to buy their juice directly from a local orchard -- hard in NYC but easy in much of the country. If you know of an orchard that grows older variety apples, go with them. Their juice is more likely to have some moderately tannic apples, complexly flavored apples. It's possible that they will be willing to fill up a carboy or other fermenter directly, at a lower cost, and maybe even raw, before they treat it. Late season juice (like RIGHT NOW) is best for fermenting.

2) Ferment slow and cold, and be patient. You can start it warm to make sure it builds up a good vigorous initial fermentation, but then move it somewhere nice and cool, like a cellar (50 degrees is great). If it's not dark, wrap the carboy up so that light can't get in. Leave it be until the fermentation has completely stopped -- this may take upwards of two months. Then rack it (that means transferring it to another, clean carboy), leaving behind the sediment that should have fallen out. Fit the new carboy with an airlock, and continue to be patient. I wouldn't bottle it until at least 4 months. Last year I waited about 6.

But seriously, thank you for encouraging people to make their own cider! It's very easy and delicious.

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Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

Hey Robyn, I'm a little bummed to see that once again you've posted a "quick easy" cider recipe. As I wrote a few months back, (http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/06/how-to-make-apple-cider.html) it’s great that folks are starting to ferment cider themselves, and it will be a lot better than the super-sweet Woodchuck-type “cider.” But there’s a real art to cidermaking, which is really a lot more like winemaking than most folks realize. You won’t get a great cider out of a quick, 3-4 week fermentation. It’ll work and get you buzzed, but starting with quality (ideally raw) juice and taking it slow will be a lot more rewarding in the long run.

I won't bother to recap my previous post, folks can click through to check it out if they like. I will, however, offer this link to Andrew Lea’s cidermaking page for those who are intrigued enough: http://www.cider.org.uk/.

From Talk

Will you miss Gourmet magazine?

I will miss it terribly.

What Gourmet has been doing really well lately is thoughtful, interesting and literate articles about food, drink, food politics, culture, traditions, and more. As I see it, Saveur has been busy getting glossier and leaving behind the niche it had staked out as a chronicler of real food traditions. It landed in a more middle-of-the-road territory with more puff pieces, recipes, and product spotlights. In the meantime, Gourmet sort of crept in and grabbed some of the audience that Saveur left unattended, and did it well.

That said, at some level I see your point re: Slad & Deter. (But what kind of name is Slad?) But I don't, personally, read food magazines for the recipes/menu plans/photo spreads. I don't cook that way at all, and although that food porn occasionally inspires my cooking, I would prefer to see that aspect minimized.

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Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

Hey Robyn, I know you don't. True cider, which was once the most traditional American drink, is coming back, but prohibition basically wiped it out of our collective consciousness.

I'll keep an eye out for good articles (I realize the site I linked to is way too thorough for the standard curious citizen) but I will reiterate a 2 key points from my previous post:

1) The juice is the key. Mass market, pasteurized cider is very sweet, and probably not much else. A good juice blend needs a balance of high sugar with some balanced acid, aromatics and (most elusive, given our modern apples) tannin. Raw juice is best, but UV-treated is a lot better than fully pasteurized. Heat robs the juice of its more subtle aromas. A typical home fermenter would be well served to buy their juice directly from a local orchard -- hard in NYC but easy in much of the country. If you know of an orchard that grows older variety apples, go with them. Their juice is more likely to have some moderately tannic apples, complexly flavored apples. It's possible that they will be willing to fill up a carboy or other fermenter directly, at a lower cost, and maybe even raw, before they treat it. Late season juice (like RIGHT NOW) is best for fermenting.

2) Ferment slow and cold, and be patient. You can start it warm to make sure it builds up a good vigorous initial fermentation, but then move it somewhere nice and cool, like a cellar (50 degrees is great). If it's not dark, wrap the carboy up so that light can't get in. Leave it be until the fermentation has completely stopped -- this may take upwards of two months. Then rack it (that means transferring it to another, clean carboy), leaving behind the sediment that should have fallen out. Fit the new carboy with an airlock, and continue to be patient. I wouldn't bottle it until at least 4 months. Last year I waited about 6.

But seriously, thank you for encouraging people to make their own cider! It's very easy and delicious.

From Serious Eats

Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

Hey Robyn, I'm a little bummed to see that once again you've posted a "quick easy" cider recipe. As I wrote a few months back, (http://www.seriouseats.com/2009/06/how-to-make-apple-cider.html) it’s great that folks are starting to ferment cider themselves, and it will be a lot better than the super-sweet Woodchuck-type “cider.” But there’s a real art to cidermaking, which is really a lot more like winemaking than most folks realize. You won’t get a great cider out of a quick, 3-4 week fermentation. It’ll work and get you buzzed, but starting with quality (ideally raw) juice and taking it slow will be a lot more rewarding in the long run.

I won't bother to recap my previous post, folks can click through to check it out if they like. I will, however, offer this link to Andrew Lea’s cidermaking page for those who are intrigued enough: http://www.cider.org.uk/.

From Talk

Will you miss Gourmet magazine?

I will miss it terribly.

What Gourmet has been doing really well lately is thoughtful, interesting and literate articles about food, drink, food politics, culture, traditions, and more. As I see it, Saveur has been busy getting glossier and leaving behind the niche it had staked out as a chronicler of real food traditions. It landed in a more middle-of-the-road territory with more puff pieces, recipes, and product spotlights. In the meantime, Gourmet sort of crept in and grabbed some of the audience that Saveur left unattended, and did it well.

That said, at some level I see your point re: Slad & Deter. (But what kind of name is Slad?) But I don't, personally, read food magazines for the recipes/menu plans/photo spreads. I don't cook that way at all, and although that food porn occasionally inspires my cooking, I would prefer to see that aspect minimized.

From A Hamburger Today

Schnitzel Burger from Schnitzel and Things Truck

Whoa that actually does look really good, and it's not the kind of thing I'd be inclined to go for either. Just... got.. hungry...

From Talk

Celery Greens

In my experience, at least in the Northeast, I've never seen a small farmer produce the kind of big, juicy celery stalks that commercial growers produce. The celery is darker, tougher, and much more intensely flavored. I suspect it is more like "cutting celery," a different variety of the plant. For people (like myself) who love the flavor of celery, it's very cool stuff, and I too find it works well as a flavoring element. If you're going to use it in soup or stock, use less (by volume) than you would commercial celery--remember, it's going to impart all of that intense flavor. Basically, think of it more like an herb than a vegetable, and you'll be on your way to success.

From Slice

Gran Gusto in Cambridge, Mass.: As Neapolitan As It Gets

Kenji, as an admirer of your work here and at GoodEater, I'd be pleased to break cornicione with you. I've been to Gran Gusto once before and left on the fence, so I'm down for a second round. I found your email address over at GoodEater, I'll hit you up shortly.

From Slice

Sicilian Slice Crawl in Boston

Thanks for this round-up folks. As a recent Boston transplant I was unaware of the emphasis on square slices until this report. I had been meaning to hit Umberto but I didn't realize it was a regional slant. This is good news, given the general mediocrity of round pies in this city (a few notables excepted).

Stopped into Pinocchios this weekend and it was, indeed, quite good. Just needed a moment more in the oven. If it's inconsistent, I got it on a pretty good day.

From Serious Eats

Do Biodegradable Spoons Ruin the Ice Cream Experience?

Well, there's nothing that makes a disposable spoon, even one made of corn starch, "greener" than a reusable metal spoon, so you've set up a false choice in the first part of this blog post. I wish more casual food service establishments would offer real, reusable vessels and utensils, but often they'd rather avoid the work of cleaning them.

From Slice

The 'Pizza Strip': Indigenous to Rhode Island

Adam, is this inspired at all by my comment about pizza strips in the Bob & Timmy's post? Come on, let me feel special!

As for your critique: First off, if I'm not mistaken the classic neapolitan Marinara has no cheese, right? And neither does the most traditional New Haven apizza! Secondly, if you really won't accept it as a pizza style without cheese, occasionally the pizza strips have a light dusting of grated cheese (probably some kind of romano or cheap parmesan). And finally, I can foresee further critiques that this is really more akin to a focaccia, but isn't that also true of Roman pizza bianca?

Basically, if I am forced to admit that Chicago deep dish is "pizza," then I think the rest of the world needs to acknowledge the pizza-ness of the RI pizza strip. No?

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Bob & Timmy's Is the Fifth Best Pizzeria in the U.S.?

I'll add to the chorus and say that, despite living in Providence for many years, I never understood the Bob and Timmy's thing. Richman's article made me consider trying it once more, but Ed's experience lines up with mine.

And while grilled pizza is good, and fun to made at home, I think it's more interesting focus on the TRUE regional pizza specialty of RI, the Pizza Strip (aka bakery pizza). Mmmmm.... greasy pizza strips....

From A Hamburger Today

Dear AHT: 'Help! I'm Allergic to Beef"

Bryan, I HAVE read about something like this, because my girlfriend feels quite ill only when she eats beef that is not completely cooked. Beef stew -- fine. Medium-rare burger -- she gets sick.

If you have similar reactions (you didn't mention doneness being a factor, but if you love burgers maybe you always eat them fairly pink), then you may have the same allergy. It's actually an allergy to BSA, a protein in cows' blood that is rendered harmless by fully cooking. Chow ran a good piece on it here:

http://www.chow.com/stories/11307

If you suffer from BSA allergy, of course, it's a mixed blessing. Better than 100% beef allergy, but kiss bloody steaks goodbye.

Good luck.

From Serious Eats

How to Freeze Bacon

Yeah, this one month business is insanity.

From Serious Eats: New York

Perbacco’s ‘Carbonara’ Is Seriously Strange

My feelings about "deconstructed" classics aside, they should have at least gotten it right -- pecorino romano and guanciale ought to have been used instead of parm and prosciutto. (Or at LEAST pancetta.)

From Serious Eats

How to Make Apple Cider

As a total cider dork (I know, you didn't even know we existed) I could go on and on about this, but I'll try to keep it brief. To start, I applaud Savvy Housekeeping (and, by extension, Serious Eats) for encouraging people to make their own cider--it will be a miliion times better than garbage like Woodchuck, which has about as much to do with cider as strawberry wine coolers have to do with strawberries, or wine for that matter. It’s also dead easy.

That said, I would urge people to think of cider more like wine and dig a little deeper. It’s not that much harder to make truly delicious, complex stuff—it’s really a matter of ingredients. You probably wouldn’t recommend that people make their own wine with Welch's, so why recommend that they use storebought apple juice? It's vastly preference to use fresh "sweet cider" aka the unfiltered juice that you can get from orchards in apple season. UV-treated or raw is preferable to pasteurized, which robs the cider of its delicate flavors. Again, do you think a winemaker would cook their grape juice before fermenting it? And finally, if you have an orchard that grows them, many older apple varieties (especially traditional cider varieties) have more complex flavors with tannin, acid and sugar in balance, which will create very complex and satisfying ciders. Finally, if you do want to take it seriously, learn a bit about the methods—the recipe above is very quick, but you’ll find that you can produce finer results from fermenting slowly at cool temperatures and giving it some time to meld and mature (I just tasted and bottled my cider from last fall for the first time last week).

I would never urge folks NOT to do whatever they can—as I said, even cider from storebought juice will be better than most storebought hard cider—but I would also urge people to give real cider a chance. If you want to buy some good, traditional cider to see how good and can get, I love West County in MA, Farnum Hill in NH (but available throughout the Northeast), and Foggy Ridge in VA. Slyboro in NY is pretty good too, and there are a few solid cidermakers in the upper Midwest and Northwest too. Less locally, good French cidre is pretty easy to find, and Basque cider is starting to show up on these shores too.

OK, end rant! And thanks for giving cider the time of day, SE!

From Slice

Obituary: Sal, of Upper West Side Favorite Sal and Carmine's, Dies

Very sad news. I have fond memories of Sal and Carmines and their pizza is truly exemplary. One quibble, though, comes from my northern correspondent and S&C devotee Barn, who wrote to me:

"As one who lived in the neighborhood in the early 60's, I can assure all concerned that Carmine was there from day one."

Having not been around back then, I'm inclined to believe him. Can anyone else confirm or deny?


From Serious Eats

Serious Cocktails: Ladies Night

I'm no cocktail expert, and I've never had one of her cocktails, but it seems like SF's Alberta Straub shoudl have been on your list. My impression is that she's pretty widely known and revered, even called "the Alice Waters of booze!"

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Is Artisanal, Handmade Food Always Better?

"this whole organic unprocessed fad is a phony game to separate well meaning folks from their money. my wife and daughter drink chocalate soy milk, direct from the "organic" section at Fairway, because they like the taste better. Crushed and processed soy bean mush is more "green" than regular old pasteurized 2%?. "

No, it's not a phony game, you're just not taking the time to understand it. Industrially produced chocolate soy milk is NOT the "whole, organic, unprocessed" alternative to pasteurized 2% milk from industrially-raised cows. One of the many whole, unprocessed alternatives to that milk is MILK from cows that have been raised humanely on pasture, without excessive antibiotics or hormones, maybe raw, maybe organic... from a small local farmer (that you know and trust) or a reputable group of producers (such as Organic Valley).

Two of the many factors contributing to the perceived faddishness of this movement include companies attempting to greenwash their products and the consumers who have been taught to inherently believe the claims made by corporations, supermarkets, and the like.

And whether soy milk in general is more sustainable than cow's milk is another question for another day.

From A Hamburger Today

Dear AHT: Boston Five Guys No Good

Likewise, I've found that the Five Guys in Dedham is pretty good for what it is (a way-above-average, chain fast food style burger), but I have nothing to compare it with in terms of other 5G locations.

In terms of Boston being bad for burgers, I think that case may be overstated on here, in part because Kenji (whose posts I have truly enjoyed) likes a very particular style of burger. I've not been to many of the oft-lauded burger spots in Boston, but Highland Kitchen in Somerville usually serves up an excellent one, and I found Four Burgers in Cambridge much better than it's usually given credit for (though not truly great). For my part, more research to come...

From Serious Eats

Liberté Yogurt: My Holy Grail of Dairy Products

Yet another vote for Liberte as the best yogurt out there.

From Serious Eats

Bringing Back the Love of Lard

"But there is no market for "extra fatty" pork."

While that might have been true 10 years ago, it's significantly less true today. At the behest of lipid loving swine lovers everywhere, many of the fattier, more flavorful old variety pigs are being bred again. If you go to your local farmers' market, farmstand, coop, etc, it's likely that you can find (or special order) some nice berkshire or tamworth fatback or leaf lard to render...

And it's really not that big a pain. A few hours of relatively unattended cooking makes it no more arduous than making stew or a stock.

From Serious Eats

Cheap Local, Sustainable, and Organic Food: Is It Out There?

"If organic is important to you, buy those items where they're cheapest, at places like Wal-Mart and Trader Joe's"

That problem is that, in some (but not all) cases, the difference between corporate-scale organic farms and nonorganic farms isn't all that substantial. Especially when it comes to some of the most-purchased organic foods, like milk. Watchdog groups like the Cornucopia Institute have documented how corporate organic milk producers like Horizon aren't really following organic regulations. When I have to pick between conventional milk and, say, Horizon organic, I prefer to save the money buying conventional. Then I have more money to buy something really good at the farmers' market.

From Serious Eats

10 Tips for Homemade Ice Cream Success

Tip #12: Get your mix-ins cold before mixing them in. I also ruined a batch of strawberry ice cream last week by adding lots of warm berries at the last moment and melting the ice cream--disaster!

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Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

@celeriac -- Thanks for your information about how cider can be an even more interesting drink. We'd love to know more, and you're right, this post is about the absolute easiest, entry-level cider. Contact us at pauperedchef@gmail.com because we'd love to learn more about it.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

You know they already sell Baconaise in the stores but it isn't made with real Bacon. It tastes really good though. I am going to make your version as I have some rendered bacon fat in my refrigerator. Never thought of making it myself. I can just imagine what that lamb mayo tastes like! Yikes. Lamb is such a highly flavored fat as it is.

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Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

@Celeriac: I mean no disrespect to the art of cidermaking. If you know of a good post/article about a more involved method, I'd be interested in reading it! (Alas my skills, or lack of, probably wouldn't take me much farther than the method above. I have friend who likes to brew his own beer though; he'd be into a cidermaking project.)

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Making Cheap Hard Cider From Scratch

My friend grew up on an apple farm in pa. Every year they make a ton of delicious cider from left over apples. Its awesome

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Who knows if they really use bacon fat to make theirs, but there is a bacon flavored mayonnaise on the market called Baconnaise. It's been the butt of a running joke on the Daily Show.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

This is awesome. I'm wondering about chicken fat, since I often have a good bit of that around.

I'm also thinking about mayo-based sauces, where the flavor would be cut by other ingredients. Would Thousand Island dressing made with beef-fat mayo be an ingredient in the world's best reuben? Maybe...

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

I never ever throw out my bacon drippings. What good southerner would? Sacrilege! And now you've got me thinking about duck fat. *drools* I'm inspired to make at least one dish for the holidays incorporating duck fat. The aforementioned duckandaise sounds like an interesting substitute for the traditional turkey gravy over mashed potatoes.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Great post. The other thing you didn't really mention was the temperature of the oil/fat. I can recall in a culinary class when the chef liked to do various things to trip us up to teach us. One time he used warm oil--I don't know, maybe 125-150F. It would break the emulsion every time.

I wonder if the rendered fat was too hot and that's what prevented the emulsion?

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

I gotta admit, I'm a longtime vegetarian AND a "process-nerd" so the science-buff in me still had me fascinated with this post... Playing recipe-detective and mad-scientist/chemist was apparently too compelling to resist my initial urge to not read this. I guess it must appeal to my geek-muscle (Or something deep inside me anyway).

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

You should have listened to your wife. By now you ought to know beef and lamb fats are awful for everything but making soap. My arteries are yelling at me to eschew all of your blends, but that bacon concoction sounds interesting., If only there was a way to tone down the unhealthy fat stuff and retain the flavor of the bacon. I whizzed up some good old fashioned mayo, and sparingly added some liquid smoke to the batch. It enlivened some french fries just fine!
Eureka. I'm done now, good luck!
Michael

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

@LexieLo

Oops - right you are. I guess I sometimes mix up heads and tails. Either way, the concept is the same, and the mayo is delicious!

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

This is soo cool! Part foodie awesomeness, biochemistry lesson. One thing though, it is the "head" of the lecithin phospholipid that is hydrophilic, the long tail is hydrophobic. It's the same material that makes up the membranes of animal cells. Sorry for being so geeky! Maybe I should put down the MCAT prep books and get...what's that called? oh yeah a life

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Wow I entered a new dimention of existence with this topic!

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

^"Mayonnaise is nothing but throat lube, enabling dry sandwiches to slide down your throat. Gross!! Kraft is trying to kill us!"

Mayonnaise is one of the five Mother Sauces in French cuisine. Kraft did not invent it.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

I love when you do write-ups because they are always comprehensive & in-depth...like reading Cook's Ilustrated! Much better than some of the surface-skimming "guides" I have read.

And as for the subject matter...::muah muah:: can I say more? Sounds amazing. Can't wait to try!

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate any and all culinary experiments, but...why? Mayo tastes great as it is, and if I want bacon or beef on something, I'll add it. I mean, I'm happy for people who like this, but fresh, creamy mayo (hopefully with a boatful of double-fried frites) is enough for me. I'll extend myself to an aioli, but that's as far as I go.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Mayonnaise is nothing but throat lube, enabling dry sandwiches to slide down your throat. Gross!! Kraft is trying to kill us!

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

@cucumberpandan -- olive oil is quite flavorful compared to canola or soybean or other vegetable oils commonly used in commercial mayonnaise.

Olive oil contains polyphenols which give it a peppery flavor and beautiful greenish color. Extra virgin has a high amount of these polyphenols. It's these phenols (and their peppery flavor) that might be too overwhelming in a mayo.

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

WOW.... I had been wondering about Duck fat being used for mayo, for quite some time. Just didn't have enough duck fat lying around to try it. Thanks a bunch @J. Kenji

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

I've been reading seriouseats.com for the past year now, and it was this post that has prompted me to sign up for an account just so that i could leave a comment.

this is absolutely the best column seriouseats.com has come up with, and this post has blown my mind with its ingenuity. meatonnaise! kenji, you have inspired me to make my own mayonnaise (never contemplated making it before) and graduate straight on to meatonnaise right after.

thanks for making my day!

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Maybe this is the next step for me :) I had just recently made my own homemade mayo for the first time ever (with vegetable oil, palm oil to be exact, which came out great, until I refrigerated it...).

Thanks also for the tip for hand-whisking mayo made with EVOO, because almost everything else I read warned against using olive oil because it'll be very strong/bitter (but never explaining 'why').

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

I'm conflicted. One one hand, I'm impressed with the thought process, methodologies and executions, but on the other hand, mayo - no matter what it's made of - is ... ugh...mmph....plugh.....excuse me....must vomit...

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

Wow, this article gave me shivers. Baconnaise, here I come!

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The Food Lab: Animal Fat Mayonnaise

I love this, you're a man after my own heart. For the past 6 months I've been contemplating baconnaise, but assumed it wouldn't work due to the saturated nature of bacon drippings. I figured it would need diluting with PUFA, but never got around to trying.

Incidentally, according to the USDA Food & Nutrient database, bacon drippings are approx 60% MUFA, 30% SFA, and 10% PUFA. So, given that, (and the low melt point) bacon drippings shouldn't need to be cut with too much PUFA. Bring on the bacony goodness.

PS -- my husband went to MIT. I love the way you people think.

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