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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

I personally prefer a well made margherita - but i've had both good and bad from VPN places. The standard doesn't call for DOP tomatoes - and I have not found a difference with non-DOP (except for price). It's difficult to follow all of the rules to the letter (they have now even banned standard spiral mixers (i.e. hobart). I think the stuff that Motorino, Bianco and Paulie Gee with the Neapolitan style is great.

You know what I think is the worst part about pizza?? Selling "by the slice"...or "in which I find that pizza by the slice sucks". Why would someone want a slice of pizza from a shop...it is basically old pizza that is reheated. We do a lot of fairs/festivals with our mobile oven and everyone wants to buy just a slice. Why have a reheated old slice when you can have a fresh made pizza?

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Nicely done Paulie - let me know when you are opening so I can be there opening night too...

Jay

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Quick Profile on Jay Jerrier of Il Cane Rosso

@pizzaexpert is right on with his review - I can tell from that picture that the oven wasn't even close to being hot enough and they weren't using fior di latte. I have not been involved with daily operations of Campania as I have been building my Cane Rosso brand. If I am not making the pizza or standing over their shoulder, it is average at best. If anyone finds themselves in Dallas make sure to drop me a line jjerrier@ilcanerosso.com

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A16, San Francisco

A16 was one of the places that pushed me over the edge to get into the pizza business for real. I had an amazing Margherita and a Sausage/Chile/Brocolini there one night when Hille was still there. Probably heresy, but I liked it much more than Bianco. A16 Food & Wine is a great book as well...

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

I personally prefer a well made margherita - but i've had both good and bad from VPN places. The standard doesn't call for DOP tomatoes - and I have not found a difference with non-DOP (except for price). It's difficult to follow all of the rules to the letter (they have now even banned standard spiral mixers (i.e. hobart). I think the stuff that Motorino, Bianco and Paulie Gee with the Neapolitan style is great.

You know what I think is the worst part about pizza?? Selling "by the slice"...or "in which I find that pizza by the slice sucks". Why would someone want a slice of pizza from a shop...it is basically old pizza that is reheated. We do a lot of fairs/festivals with our mobile oven and everyone wants to buy just a slice. Why have a reheated old slice when you can have a fresh made pizza?

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Nicely done Paulie - let me know when you are opening so I can be there opening night too...

Jay

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Quick Profile on Jay Jerrier of Il Cane Rosso

@pizzaexpert is right on with his review - I can tell from that picture that the oven wasn't even close to being hot enough and they weren't using fior di latte. I have not been involved with daily operations of Campania as I have been building my Cane Rosso brand. If I am not making the pizza or standing over their shoulder, it is average at best. If anyone finds themselves in Dallas make sure to drop me a line jjerrier@ilcanerosso.com

Jay

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A16, San Francisco

A16 was one of the places that pushed me over the edge to get into the pizza business for real. I had an amazing Margherita and a Sausage/Chile/Brocolini there one night when Hille was still there. Probably heresy, but I liked it much more than Bianco. A16 Food & Wine is a great book as well...

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Quick Profile on Jay Jerrier of Il Cane Rosso

I like to keep the oven violently hot so the pizzas cook for about 90 seconds or so...and I can do 4 at a time (which is a bit stressful). We run 50-60 per hour or so. The biggest event I've done is for 250 people. The main limitation is not oven capacity or throughput, but dough and ingredient storage. I don't have a refrigerated van yet and can only keep so much stuff at the proper temp.

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Quick Profile on Jay Jerrier of Il Cane Rosso

Those are Hatch green chiles - we only get them 2 weeks per year! The sopressata comment was a tip of the hat to Paulie Gee and Motorino. Pepperoni is off the menu!

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Sicilian-Style Square Pizza Pie

Just made this for my kids and it was a huge hit! (I had leftover dough, San Marzano sauce, and fior di latte from an event on Thursday night).

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Sicilian-Style Square Pizza Pie

One ounce = 28.35g

Once you switch to weighing ingredients vs. using measuring cups it makes a huge difference!!

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Video: VendrTV Visits the Veraci Mobile Pizza Oven in Seattle's Pike Place Market

Here's a link to another mobile oven video from a buddy in the Sacramento area with Bella Familia Pizza:

http://www.kcra.com/video/19801412/index.html?taf=sac

And here's one of our oven in Dallas:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/around_town/dining/Mobile_Pizza_Oven_Dallas-Fort_Worth.html

It's a lot cheaper than starting a restaurant (though navigating health code is a bit more frustrating) and these ovens really produce great pizzas.

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'New York Post' on Di Fara's $5 Slices

They should do what they do in Hawaii...tourists pay the full price and locals get the kama'aina rate. Just charge the premium to those in fanny packs and bike shorts.

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Antica Pizzeria: A Culinary Oasis in a Pizza Desert

Dallas Grimaldi's is VERY chain-like...meh. We have a local coal fired place called Coal Vines that is much better. Also one called Russo's (another chain) that is not good. We also have Cavalli Pizza (VPN certified also) and Olivella's (Neapolitan but not certified - although the original pizzaiolo, Salvatore, has ties to Trianon).

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Antica Pizzeria: A Culinary Oasis in a Pizza Desert

I love Antica! My training there with Jose Barrios - there excellent excellent pizzaiolo - is what sprung me out of my pizza doldrums. The pizza there was such a revelation compared to all of the NY/CA style pizza we used to have in Dallas. Peppe is incredibly passionate about the VPN standards. Since my training there back in 2006 I've opened a VPN pizzeria in Dallas (Campania) and launched a mobile business (Cane Rosso - ilcanerosso.com) that voluntarily adheres to the VPN standards (VPN won't certify mobile ovens...yet). It is most rewarding to see the look on people's faces when they first try VPN pizza vs. what they are used to. Glad to see such a good write up!!

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Top Chef's Spike Mendelsohn Opening D.C. Pizzeria

My hair hurts from reading that quote. Really sounds like he is getting into the pizza business for all the right reasons.

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An Evening with Paulie Gee, Pizza Madman

I am prepared to phase out pepperoni and go with only sopressata picante now. Between Paulie Gee and Motorino tweets, my pizza pants are going crazy. I need to do a NY tour - and Paulie has an open invite to come and work a few shifts down in Dallas!

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Openings: Tonda

We have 2 rotating wood-burning ovens at our restaurant in Dallas and I don't like them at all. I turn off the rotation when I make pizza. They have crazy off-set fireboxes - kind of like a BBQ smoker. This pic looks like the fire is in the middle???

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Brooklyn Grimaldi's vs. Texas Grimaldi's

Here is a better link to pics in and around Texas...there are some good ones and we are not all hicks or evil chains:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=103380&id=584065379&l=7278c

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Brooklyn Grimaldi's vs. Texas Grimaldi's

I've eaten numerous times at the Grimaldi's in Dallas' West Village and the one in Allen. I was really excited for them to open - but so disappointed practically every time I've been there. Granted they are still relatively new and it's not like they have lifelong pizzaiolos running the ovens - but overall the pizzas they turn out are pretty "meh". I can't imagine these are they same pies as the original in NY...these locations are CLEARLY chains - from the decor to the menus on placemats (complete with supplier logos...thank you "hormel"!) it is totally formulaic. Generally the pizzas are cooked to death - dry - with no char which means the ovens aren't hot enough. Most of these locations are in the suburbs and there are a lot of NY transplants in Dallas, but the suburbs don't seem to have a sophisticated palate and prefer a cardboard crust as a topping delivery device only. Over seasoned over cooked. Coal Vines in Dallas does a much better job of NY Style Pizza and Olivella's does a great Neapolitan. Sad but true - many Texans just don't get a good "char" or fior di latte...and god forbid you should actually taste a San Marzano tomato instead of a mouthful of dried oregano. I have pics of various pizzas on flickr at www.flickr.com/photos/canerosso/sets

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Eater on the Co. Shitstorm

You guys should be thrilled that a pizzeria is causing such a fuss and attracting big crowds with foodie cred. In the Dallas area we've had nearly 75 restaurants close in this crappy economy - all of them independents. Our restaurant just made the list of Top Ten New Restaurants in the Dallas Morning News and we had people complaining that a "pizza joint" shouldn't be included on the list. Oh well...can't please everyone :). I wish I could get to Co. and Motorino - or at least had the choice.

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The 30-Day Tulsa-Area Pizza Challenge

I missed the hyperlink but read it after I had posted my comment...apologies. However, Hideaway makes their pizzas on screens and runs them through an impinger conveyor belt...so I'm not sure that they make a good pie. I wanted to like it after how much it was hyped by my co-workers in Tulsa - but ehh....

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The 30-Day Tulsa-Area Pizza Challenge

Please don't tell me Hideaway or Mazzio's is on your list of good pizza in Tulsa...I worked there for a year - stick to the Rib Crib!

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First Taste: Motorino Pizza Is Awesome

Judging from pics posted on Eater blog, it is a modular Renato oven. Judging by the looks of the pizzas - which look awesome - I'd say there is no gas used and it is all wood. Renato is just a couple towns over from me in the Dallas area. Neapolitan style is the only way to go!

Off topic, but just got back from a quick trip to San Antonio where we checked out Dough Pizzeria (www.doughpizzeria.com) - also extremely awesome neapolitan pies by a guy who knows what he is doing. Also made burrata to order. Texas is getting some good pie.

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Do You Put Ranch Dressing on Pizza?

Gross. Our GM is from Naples and we get (mostly) girls in Dallas asking for a side of ranch dressing with their pizza. He gets the biggest question mark appearing over his head. When I tell them they want to dip their pizza in it he is shocked. His other pet peeve is when someone comes in and asks for a "meat lovers" or a "supreme".

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Chicago's Spacca Napoli: Good But Not Great

Check out www.bufalita.com - this is the cheese we use at our pizzeria. It is made by Italians, using imported Italian equipment. They are shipping water buffaloes over from Italy in October. They pasteurize the milk at the time the cheese is produced - so it is the closest I've found to Italian cheese over here. Their plant is in Mexico so it is shipped to the US fresh, not frozen. Right now it is only available wholesale to restaurants but they are packaging it for retail although I don't think they have a distribution deal set yet. It is very tangy and creamy.

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Best Pizza in San Francisco, According to Michael Bauer

I had several really great pizzas at A16 back in early 2006. I know they want through some chef changes and heard it slipped, but now have heard it is back to greatness. The place is very cool too...they were actually roasting corn on the cob in the ovens - practically every table had some.

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Thanks f r y. I hope that everything goes even half ascwell as things have gone for you. If I go anywhere this Spring it will be a research trip to Naples. ( turn away IRS employees) with a "side visit" to my son in Rome. However, next year I'm gonna be tempted to do my research in the Bay area (turn away again) with a "side trip" to Tahoe to get some runs in at Squaw and Alpine Meadows. Lookin' forward to meeting you.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Yes - way to go, Paulie. I finally got a chance to catch up on pizza news (EP is closed tomorrow), and I find that I missed the news we've all been waiting for.

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Do You Put Ranch Dressing on Pizza?

How do you get a white trash girl to suck your d**k?

Dip it in ranch dressing.

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Thanks very much for the kind word and support Za Man. I'm lookin' forward to having you stop in.

Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

good luck paulie i have followed you on slice and flicker . the pictures of the pizzerias you visit are sensational. you are going to do great, i am looking forward to your opening. you can make a living and maintain the love of your craft. keep it simple and honest the public will get it .

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

Too much talk, just eat your favorite pizza and enjoy.

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

One of the few benefits of living on LawnGuyland is we can get enough soil to grow basil the proper way.

@pizzablogger: I had to stare at GMAFB for a full thirty seconds before its meaning came to me. I've been out of Brooklyn too long.

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

Crack for pizza eh Adam? is this driving the pizza commodity market up or down in the PNW?

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

Please don't mention me in the same breath as the foolish one in this case. When it comes to whispering into the yeast, he is in a league of his own.


Ciao,

Paulie Gee

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

@passion4pizza: yeast whisperer = no. raving lunatic with a propensity to blather at times = yes.

The real yeast whisperers here would be people like Foolish Poolish and Paulie Gee.....and most definitely some of the folks over at pizzamaking.com. I'm still a rank amateur when it comes to pizza making.

@seriouspizza: GMAFB. Don't use hydro basil, have and use 3 SD cultures as well as instant yeast and fool around with squares, rounds and grilled pizza for fun....although that mixture may brighten my mood today! :)

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

Italian food has always been one of the more ingredient-driven cuisines, versus technique-driven cuisines like French and the various varieties of Chinese food. It's about starting with very high-quality ingredients and 'giving them respect.' Having high-quality ingredients that can stand on their own without much alteration can be hard for a business to do, and still sell enough pizza to stay in business.

I don't eat pizza much any more, and when I do I get just a very little bit of tomato sauce and one or two veggies, usually, not Margherita. For me, the most important and unique thing about any pizza is the crust, and that can never be 'boring,' just good or bad.

Re: toppings--I think there is a difference between getting one or two high-quality toppings, versus getting some kind of 'specialty' pie (like Hawaiian, artichoke, sausage and fennel, and so forth) because then you're throwing a completely different flavor profile into the mix.

Just out of curiosity, what do you think is the ideal cheese combo? It sounds like you're saying that, given the choice between a truly outstanding Italian-American slice, with provolone or some other cheeses in the 'mix' and the standard Margherita, you'd take the former. I think lots of people would agree with you on that choice.

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In Which I Find Margherita Pizzas Boring

Pizzablogger:"The context of my post was why limit yourself to anything."

On that sound advice i'm now.......

1) Smoking Hydroponic Basil.

2) Sniffin' Ischia hooch.

3) Drinking the Verasano Kool Aid

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

congrats paulie G! i'll be sure to hit it up. can i bring my camera?

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Bravo ! Go get 'em Paulie.

You have the passion motivatiion, and skills.

I WILL visit next time I'm in "Greenpernt".

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Hey so what are you gonna call the place then?

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Congrats from London, England. Hopefully next time I'm in NY you'll have opened successfully and started serving some of your beautiful pies.

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

My family and I will welcome you to the hood by coming at least once a month. Looking forward to some decent competition to Motorino and Fornino and one that's within walking distance from us!

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

Wonderful news indeed.

You are some lucky SOBs in Greenpoint.....although luck had nothing to do with it.

Paulie, you know where my feelings are, but congratulations again on a dream come true. Now, make sure the pie is on point when I come up there! :)

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

dammit! my cousin just moved and would have lived about 2 blocks from here. looks like i'll have to make a road trip net time i come out for a visit. good luck paulie gee!

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

congrats Paulie! every time one of your pizza parties gets posted i end up drooling all over my keyboard. can't wait to try some for myself

let me know if you need an apprentice pizzaiolo ;)

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

And, hey, the closest subway stop is on the G line! Perfect!!

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

SPECTACULAR news! This is going to be a prime destination. I can't wait!!

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Openings: Paulie Gee's, Greenpoint, Brooklyn

@captpizza Thanks for the good wishes. As far as ruining things goes, I'm taking a different view of it. I've been doing what I don't even like for 30 years just to earn a living. Now it's time to do what I love. All the complications in the world can't take away the feeling I get when everything goes right and I get to watch people dig into a good looking, tasty pie. Go find the picture I think Adam took of me gazing at one of my pies as I pull it out of the oven and head inside to serve it. As long as I keep focused on getting that result, the other stuff that gets thrown in front of me will be worth putting up with. And now I get the added pleasure of putting a place together for people to come and enjoy. Through my interviews, I have already met a small army of people from North Brooklyn who I can sense have a real excitement about what we'll hopefully create for everyone to enjoy. And all the red tape in the world can never take away from all of those kick ass comments just above this one.

Thanks again,

Paulie Gee

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Website: http://www.campaniapizza.com

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Last bite on earth: Sausage, chile and rapini pizza at A16 in SF or Margherita at Antica Pizzeria in LA.