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FN Chefs - ignoring food sanitation

@chiff- I swear this is the 4th or 5th time you've posted the EXACT same thing I was going to say! I get so gorked out when chefs handle raw meat then wipe their hands on a towel, or do a quick rinse under running water with no soap. Then they grab a knife for their next task and all I can think of is the millions of germs they're spreading! Ack!

When we taste anything in the kitchen where I work part time there are dedicated tasting spoons and they are only used once, then they're sent to the dishroom. It isn't a face paced restaurant setting but we're still under the gun to get food served when promised. I'd rather be 5 minutes late than double dip.

Perhaps FN can start adding a "Do as we say, not as we do" disclaimer to each show.

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Slow-cooker cookbook recommendations?

I 2nd and 3rd recommendations for Stephanie O'Dea's new book A Year of Slow Cooking. I found her blog first but plan to buy her book. I've made several of her recipes with good results. A pork roast recipe was a minor failure but I think it was my beer choice- I'll make it again but will use water or chicken broth in place of the beer.

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Fruit Loops served at Best Western...

@ gutreactions- are you sure you weren't in Minnesota? I swear those are the same options we had this summer...only we had to shell our hard boiled eggs. You're place was obviously swankier than ours. :)

The best "free" hotel breakfast I remember was in Skokie, IL at a Signature Inn or something in that chain. Of course we had to wait for the mom who made all 5 of her kids their own waffle (seriously? THEY'RE UNDER 10. I can guarantee not one of those kids ate an entire waffle) and hold our breath while one of the darlings piled her plate full of bacon (we weren't sure we were going to get any, that's how much she took) but it was worth it. The hotel itself sucked rocks but the food was surprisingly good.

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

Ah Pavlov. Always the voice of reason.

I agree with Meat Guy. People have to take some responsibility when it comes to handling food safely and preparing it correctly. Neither is a difficult task.

And for the record, my beef/hamburger comes from my father in law's farm and is processed by a local butcher shop. Occasionally I will grind up some round steak or a chuck roast if we're out of ground beef- who's to say I won't contaminate it myself with my Kitchen Aid grinding attachment if I failed to clean it properly, if I cook the meat rare, or leave meat juice on the counter where I put my salad fixings. Life is a crap shoot, people.

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FN Chefs - ignoring food sanitation

@chiff- I swear this is the 4th or 5th time you've posted the EXACT same thing I was going to say! I get so gorked out when chefs handle raw meat then wipe their hands on a towel, or do a quick rinse under running water with no soap. Then they grab a knife for their next task and all I can think of is the millions of germs they're spreading! Ack!

When we taste anything in the kitchen where I work part time there are dedicated tasting spoons and they are only used once, then they're sent to the dishroom. It isn't a face paced restaurant setting but we're still under the gun to get food served when promised. I'd rather be 5 minutes late than double dip.

Perhaps FN can start adding a "Do as we say, not as we do" disclaimer to each show.

From Talk

Slow-cooker cookbook recommendations?

I 2nd and 3rd recommendations for Stephanie O'Dea's new book A Year of Slow Cooking. I found her blog first but plan to buy her book. I've made several of her recipes with good results. A pork roast recipe was a minor failure but I think it was my beer choice- I'll make it again but will use water or chicken broth in place of the beer.

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Fruit Loops served at Best Western...

@ gutreactions- are you sure you weren't in Minnesota? I swear those are the same options we had this summer...only we had to shell our hard boiled eggs. You're place was obviously swankier than ours. :)

The best "free" hotel breakfast I remember was in Skokie, IL at a Signature Inn or something in that chain. Of course we had to wait for the mom who made all 5 of her kids their own waffle (seriously? THEY'RE UNDER 10. I can guarantee not one of those kids ate an entire waffle) and hold our breath while one of the darlings piled her plate full of bacon (we weren't sure we were going to get any, that's how much she took) but it was worth it. The hotel itself sucked rocks but the food was surprisingly good.

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

Ah Pavlov. Always the voice of reason.

I agree with Meat Guy. People have to take some responsibility when it comes to handling food safely and preparing it correctly. Neither is a difficult task.

And for the record, my beef/hamburger comes from my father in law's farm and is processed by a local butcher shop. Occasionally I will grind up some round steak or a chuck roast if we're out of ground beef- who's to say I won't contaminate it myself with my Kitchen Aid grinding attachment if I failed to clean it properly, if I cook the meat rare, or leave meat juice on the counter where I put my salad fixings. Life is a crap shoot, people.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

chili! and cornbread! with a side of antacid!
It is fall in Indiana. Time for the cold-weather meals.

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Paul Deen has new talk show Mom Logic. Did anyone go to taping?

You lost me at Kate Gosselin. Will she be hosting a marital advice show next?

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Happy 250th Birthday, Dear Guinness

Mmmmm...muddy water and coffee grounds! I can't stand it but the hubs and his best friend call it mother's milk. Happy Birthday regardless.

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On airline food: the best passenger complaint letter ever

That is HILARIOUS. My guess for the dish on the left in the first picture was pineapple chunks with pesto over a tomato wedge. Maybe that was on the next flight's menu!

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To Sirloin with Love: Stellar King of the Hill series finale.

Thanks for providing the link. We missed the finale.

My friend and I throw around "Rusty Shackelford" frequently. I'll miss Dale's conspiracy-theory antics.

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I met Rick Bayless! (And I still can't believe it)

LOL@ Wookie!

I ate at Frontera a couple of years ago and I think I enjoyed it...I didn't feel very well (a cold, not food-borne) so I don't remember much! I'd say that is a good reason to go back. I kept looking for Mr. Bayless but didn't see him. I figured he was hanging out with the "cool" people at Topolobampo!

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How do you plan your meals for the week?

I also use the whiteboard method! I write down meals based on:
1. What is on hand -especially if I can use up leftovers/extras
2. What someone requests (usually the hubs)
3. What can be made quickly or in the slowcooker because The Niblet hampers my cooking efforts! I never knew a one year old could be so many places at one time...
4. Recipes I want to try- especially those that will use up pantry items and don't require another trip to the store.
5. Meals based on sale items

I use 2 online services to provide menu ideas and recipes because I don't have time to scour my cookbooks or online sites for recipes. I need to choose which service to stick with - either e-mealz.com or savingdinner.com because I don't want to pay for both. So far e-mealz is in the lead.

I've discovered that everything runs much smoother if I have meals planned out instead of trying to figure out what I'm cooking at 5:30 every night with frozen meat, no vegetables, a toddler clinging to my legs and a 6'2 teenager lurking over my shoulder asking "What's for dinner?" as he eats a bowl of cereal or peanut butter sandwich. Or both.

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Just to clarify...

I'm in your camp, too. Clarified butter seems to upset my stomach. Is that even possible? Regardless, I agree that regular butter would be divine on lobster and I'd probably order it more often if I knew I could get it.

From Serious Eats

What to Eat for Breakfast at the Minnesota State Fair

Well hell. I just spent 3 days in Minnesota and the hotel we stayed at had a crappy breakfast selection. Wish I'd known the fair was still on- we would have ran up there for breakfast before the rest of our group was even up! I could do a chocolate covered waffle for breakfast, no prob.

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Irritating Table

I catch Splendid Table on occasion and haven't noticed her laugh. Ina's laugh seems....slightly forced and somewhat nervous when she's in a group of people. Like she's hoping for acceptance. I could be totally wrong but that's what I hear in Ina's laugh.

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Chefs & Customers Who Linger After Hours

Worst treatment I got near closing resulted in a firing. My husband and his best friend and I went into a Bennigan's near closing time (I can't remember just how close it was) and we were the only customers. The staff was hanging out around the bar. Instead of telling us they were no longer serving, they seated us. Then they ignored us. I'm not even sure if we got drinks or menus. We stayed for maybe 10 or 15 minutes then left. As we were leaving some smart ass in the group at the bar started clapping. We were pissed, of course, and made our way to the car and another restaurant.

The friend called the manager the next day and told him/her what happened. The smart ass got fired. I'm assuming that was not his first offense and sadly that kind of poor service is prolific in the Bennigan's organization, at least in my area.

I do appreciate it when restaurants post their last service time. If I'm arriving near closing time I ALWAYS ask if I/we can still be served and then get out as quickly as possible. I related it to the assholes that email me at 3:50 asking for something to be done - I'm done at 4- and invariably the task will take longer than 10 minutes to complete. Sometimes I play nice, sometimes I pretend I didn't see it and I go home.

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Vacuum Sealers

I've also seen the bags at Kohl's and some hardware stores - my local ACE hardware maybe?

I LOVE mine. We got it as a wedding gift and it is the 2nd most used gift after the popcorn machine.

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"I LOVE ANGEL HAIR, BUT HATE SPAGHETTI!!!" ..... WTF?!

I'll eat real bananas but nothing with artificial banana flavoring- like candy. YUCK.

I'll eat sun dried tomatoes in a salad or dish (not alone) but will NOT eat a raw tomato if my life depended on it. I can't stand the taste, smell or texture of a raw tomato or even the smell of a tomato plant. And yet I have 5 tomato plants in my yard- husband claims he's making salsa this year. We'll see.

I don't like angel hair pasta because of the texture. I want my pasta to have some oomph and angel hair is too wimpy.

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Any tips for starting a career in the food industry?

I agree with eatingoutwest- there is more to the foodservice industry than fast-paced, high stress restaurant positions. Can you clarify what area you're interested in, and are you getting a certificate or a full-blown degree?

I did it bass-ackwards- I decided I wanted to be a pastry chef so I enrolled in a community college and started the program while keeping my full time office gig. I never worked in a professional kitchen until I got my internship at a local camp. I still work part time at the camp and still have my office job. I'm waiting for the right foodservice opportunity to come my way and I don't ever want to work in a restaurant. I don't want the stress or the harried pace or a chef screaming at me. So until the right job presents itself I'll continue what I'm doing- the camp job satisfies my soul and the office job pays my bills. Good luck!

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Everyday Food...

Woo hoo! I hope I can find it 'round here. Thanks for letting us know!

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My children are bottomless pits!

Thanks for this thread. I have a 15 y/o boy at home who eats constantly. He'll eat dinner and 20 minutes later he's making a PB&J. Then an hour later he's having a bowl of cereal. I'll have to spend more time going through this at home tonight- maybe I'll make him help me with a bulk cooking session this weekend so he can earn his keep!

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Next FN Star Debuts tonight

LOL@dbcurrie- the next time my husband salts his food I'm going to wonder if I need to bathe...

I just can't get into this series, or Top Chef or any other 'competitions'. I don't know why but they don't interest me. I watched the first season of Hell's Kitchen faithfully but haven't watched since. I guess I already know how it is going to play out- the first season was a novelty but now I know Gordon is going to yell, swear, and throw food away while calling it "garbage". The contests will have various attributes: cocky, timid, out to prove themselves, shouldn't have bothered to show up...but I digress.

What floors me about the NFNS is that the previous winners have disappeared. Who is left? Was Guy Fieri a winner? Are there others that still have a show? Maybe I should make my own post. I don't want to bogart the thread from Josdean!

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Biscuit recipe. So good.

"didn't have super height"- I get disappointing lift when I roll my dough out too thin. I like tall biscuits, even if that means getting just 9 or 10 from a recipe that should make 12. Long live biscuits!

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Breakfast/Meal Bars: Way or No Way?

I like Lunas and Laras but not all the time. I buy them when they're on sale and really like them for traveling. I like making my own 'trail mix', too, as others have commented.

The hubs likes Clif bars for breakfast and to satisfy a chocolate craving.

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Snapshots from Scotland: Deep-Fried Mars Bars

@Conky - Milky Ways in the US have caramel. A Milky Way without caramel is a 3 Musketeers. Once upon a time there was a Mars bar in the US that was basically a Milky Way with almonds. So it kinda sounds like the US 3 Musketeers = European Mars bar.

Am I right? Wrong? Seriously delusional and know way too much about candy bars?

The only deep fried 'novelty' I've had was deep fried Oreos and they weren't good- the cookies got really soft and the batter did nothing for it. I would like to try a candy bar if someone would split it with me!

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FN Chefs - ignoring food sanitation

@AuntJone - great minds, baby!!

It's not a stretch even in a busy place to keep a small steam table tray with teaspoons for sampling - and then to deposit them in the sink or in a basin of soapy water that is eventually transferred to the dishwasher.

As for a "do as we say..." disclaimer, TVFN would have to make a 30 minute crawler loop out of it to air during Sandra Lee's entire show. I'd rather it said, "Hey kids, don't try this at home."

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Are we Freaks?

You know what I find much stranger than being into food? Being into fantasy basketball.

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Are we Freaks?

Hi soozm32,

I saw your recent post about how much you enjoy using All-Clad cookware. As an All-Clad representative, I would love to talk more with you about your experience! Please e-mail me at Tnikolich@marcusa.com.

Thanks! Taryn

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What childhood food do you wish they still made?

Oh, man, I thought I had blocked out my Gatorade Gum cravings!

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What childhood food do you wish they still made?

I miss bbq munchos, planters cheeseballs (there is another brand available now in a large container that are good but...) and morton raspberry filled powdered donuts. Oh, those were the days.

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Giada at Home and Barefoot Contessa, Back to Basics

What austintx said. Exactly. I need not type another word.

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Giada at Home and Barefoot Contessa, Back to Basics

Ina paid her dues with a successful specialty shop in one of the richest markets in the world. Giada may have had a financial leg up being the granddaughter of Dino DeLaurentis but she knows how to cook - this is obvious. Her food is great and whether or not her tits are on display, it's her cooking that gives her credibility. If you're not interested in her cleavage, don't look. If you want to attack TV cooking "personalities," focus on the ones who CAN'T cook - God knows there are lots of them.

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Giada at Home and Barefoot Contessa, Back to Basics

What is it with these supposidly "professional" (and I use that term loosely) cooks on tv with these boobs hanging out? Giada, Ratchel? Is this because they need a ratings boost? Trouble at home?? Come on, be like Ina and act like a professional, lady and cover up! Do they want us to notice their dishes, or their boobs?

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

Not one of you is wrong in your musings. You can't worry about every little thing or shouldn't like I do. Nor should you live recklessly. @Meat Guy you have creds. This comes from a perspective of someone whose house is anally clean and had e-coli poisoning 6 years ago.

Not fun. I recovered just in time to help my daughter after hers was born. I am lucky to have recovered to do so. I don't ever want to be that sick again and I really prefer my burgers medium, but I can't take the chance. I want to be here to enjoy this site and my grandchildren. BTW I'm getting on a plane next week:-)

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

Most ground beef found at groceries that grind in the back is purchased blended for control of fat content. It usually comes in as trimmings in 10-20 LB vacuum packaged chubs that are packed by Cargill, Tyson,, Swift, JBS, or others. Think about it, the ground beef is labeled for fat content, no way your grocer or butcher is doing chemical fat content testing in the back room. If they are selling it unlabeled for fat content, as ground chuck or ground sirloin, they may be doing it themselves, but if it has a fat content labeled, they are getting commercial trimmings packed so they can grind it. This may have rosemary extract added to keep the color from fading and the fat going rancid.

The real problem, is that there doesn't need to be a lot of e coli to get you sick. extremely low levels can get you sick regardless of whether it is in the ground beef, lettuce, or the counter top.

There is a great deal of arrogance in the food community regarding the safety of food coming from small producers, and things like raw milk. Every week there are recalls of 100 and 200 pounds of meat from federally inspected small producers for e coli, listeria and salmonella, most of which sickened one or two people or were caught by USDA mandated testing at the plant. California has issued warnings on the use of raw milk after a TB outbreak due to home made soft cheeses made with raw milk. There are far more safety issues than e coli.
Small farmers face the same safety issues that large farmers do. Food safety begins and ends in your kitchen, if you screw up, you can kill yourself or make yourself extremely sick. If you are really Serious eaters, you would understand the reality of food safety.

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

@AyeEat - I caught that in the title too!
My father hails from Hamburg.

Interesting history note:
Americans' started calling them Hamburgers because they discovered a patti of ground beef on a bun in Northern Germany so they called it a Hamburger....

....or at least thats what I heard throught the grapevine. don't quote me.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

Parsnip and carrot fritters with ginger and red onion and a bulgar pilaf with steamed broccoli, onion, garlic, chilli and turmeric.

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

I buy mine from a local, small grocery store.
They are family owned and run and their reputation depends on having fresh quality products.

I know they grind it there in small batches and feel perfectly safe eating their hamburger (no additives, of course), as well as their store-made sausage.

They buy their own beef and break it down into all the cuts their customers want.

Fresh, a lot of turnover, and cleanliness means everything.
I'd NEVER buy hamburg from a grocery chain, especially that stuff that looks extruded.

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

Actually grinding your meat is safer. Steaks are possibly contaminated on the surface of the meat not the inside so when you grind you have a better percentage of not having e coli in the center of your burger. Wheras at a butcher the ground meat has the potential to harbor bacteria all the way thru and replicate to higher numbers thus needing to be cooked thru.
This is providing you dont have animal feces strewn about your kitchen as you grind your meat...which on a bad day can happen.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

Comfort food... English toad-in-the-hole à la Jamie Oliver with turkey sage sausages from my local butcher, and served with onion gravy.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

Meat loaf, Mashed potatoes and green beans. Also some fruit salad for desert. Bye summer.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

Tailgate party tonight.
BBQ chicken, ribs and bratwurst, potato salad, coleslaw, and all the fixin's

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

Pumpkin leek soup, recipe from this web site last week, very tasty! Roasted garlic butter and toasted bread on the side. Yummy!

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

we had roast chicken, roast butternut squash with garlic and sage, and brown rice. oh, and a couple of glasses of red wine.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

It is finally cooling down here in Southern California, so I'm getting in the mood for "Fall" food. I'm making pumpkin black bean chili, but substituting fresh steamed kabocha squash for the pumpkin.

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

FAmily had an eye roast with red wine reduction, buttermilk mashed potatoes, and ceasar salad. Me, munchos and white bordeaux! Don't ask!

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

yakisoba with red bell peppers, brussels sprouts, yellow squash, and spinach.

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Do you know where your hamburg is coming from?

Life's a crap shoot. Hopefully there's no crap in your burger!

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What's for dinner tonight - 10/5?

oorg, have just finished mine. macaroni with jarred spaghetti sauce (Newman's marinara).

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