MOCK MEAT... IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER... (really?, why?)
Just reading through the thread re: Anthony Bourdain. And saw some vegan and vegetarian SE's saying how good the "mock/faux" meats are, even in one case saying how they are better than the real thing.
What about you folks... is Tofurkey gonna be on your dinner table tonight? What are your favorite "mock" meats and what is it you like about them? I'm thinking of doing a taste test and then writing on my results, using a few of my vegan/ vegetarian friends as guinea pigs...
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Haha, no I don't do tofurkey (disclaimer: *I* like mock meats better than real ones, but I was never a big meat person to begin with. Most wouldn't say that they're better or worse, simply different).
I like tempeh bacon (Lightlife strips, or I make it at home). Not a thing like real bacon, of course, but it's delicious. Even my 17-year-old uber-jock brother thinks so. I also like the recipe for italian seitan sausage on Everyday Dish. I haven't made them, but if you want fancy, check out Bryanna Clark Gordon's site.
I have yet to work with many storebought mock-meats, so I can't help with the boca crumbles and field roasts and soy chorizo and whatnot. Like many vegan products, I suspect it's a matter of trying different brands and finding one that you like.
At restaurants, I like seitan beef bulgogi. My absolute fave, however, is mock duck made from yubu. I've never eaten duck, so I don't know how it compares, but it is fabulous, especially in a hot pot. If you're in the DC Metro area, go to Yuan Fu!
KarynMC at 10:50AM on 10/22/09
As a bloodthirsty carnivore who eats mostly vegetarian, I leave mock meat to the professionals. I've been to a few restaurants that make superb mock meat, but the craft falls into two categories.
At places like Baoguette on St. Marks in Manhattan, the tofu-meat banh mi tastes and feels like actual meat. It feels like it has connective tissue and is served with a savory, meaty plum sauce. I prefer it to their other sandwiches.
At places like Buddha Bodai in Flushing, Queens, the mock meat makes a somewhat convincing case for meat but is better appreciated on its own terms. The texture is chewy and satisfying, but not as tender as meat (wheat gluten replicates meat's chew and tofu replicates its tenderness; I've yet to find something that replicates both). It doesn't taste like meat, but it tastes good, and provides a nice protein centerpiece when you're tired of beans.
I treat mock meat similar to the way I treat meat: mostly as something to eat on a special treat (i.e., going out to eat) when a particular item looks good or has a good reputation. Mock meat is as difficult to cook right as real meat, and most places cook it wrong. But if you're looking for a new type of culinary experience, it's an intriguing ingredient to explore. After all, it's been made for centuries and has a proud history in certain cuisines.
The only mock meat I've made at home was Upton's Naturals (a Chicago-based company which may or may not distribute outside the area) plain-style seitan chunks. I was one of four student caterers for a freshman welcome reception/cookout, and we needed a vegetarian alternative to lamb kabobs. When marinated for a few hours in soy sauce, ginger, garlic, and sugar, and grilled, it tasted on the "good" side of "okay," though nothing could tear me away from the lamb. If charred well and marinated thoroughly it is flavorful, but lacks the multi-faceted roundness and fatty mouthfeel of real meat. It was also chewy to the point of squeakiness. And for $4 for 8 ounces, I wouldn't buy it again unless I had a real craving (which I sometimes do) and a surefire technique to get the most out of it. In general I find it easier to plan vegetarian meals without the protein-centerpiece scheme of mock meat, and when serving vegetarians or vegans I prefer to serve them food that doesn't look like it's trying to replicate something they can't eat. I fear to do so would look patronizing.
MFalk at 10:51AM on 10/22/09
Trader Joe's soy chorizo is surprisingly delicious, though a bit on the salty side. Good amount of spice, though. It's the only mock meat I've ever tried, and I like it in quesadillas, burritos, torta, and scrambled eggs. Just be sure to remove it from the plastic casing!
Junie at 10:55AM on 10/22/09
when we threw a dorky (mycologist) happy hour I had some quorn nuggets. they were actually not that bad.. fungal hyphae come in handy when mimicking the meat fiber-like texture.
hmw0029 at 11:17AM on 10/22/09
I don't see mock meat as a meat substitute. I'm omnivorous and I can eat meat anytime I want. Mock meat is just really good and nice change from the same-old, same-old. I'm talking about seitan here, not packaged industrial tofu dogs and burgers you get at the grocery store, Those things are horrid and overloaded with sodium. Seitan, though, can be very really good and I love its taste and texture. I love tempeh and tofu as well, but don't see them as a meat substitute, just another delicious form of protein.
SqueezeBottle at 11:18AM on 10/22/09
I am a vegetarian, working my way to vegan, and I am not a fan of mock meat products. I don't see the point, and most of it is flavored or textured with added gluten. Veggies, grains, beans, and the occasional tofu are fine for me.
Why the need for all caps? Are you that irritated, or just concerned? The idea of not eating meat or fish seems to be spazzing you out. Peace out, my friend.
Brownie at 11:20AM on 10/22/09
Oh, don't get me started...........
finsbigfan at 11:34AM on 10/22/09
I like a few of the veggie products on the market:
-Quorn chix nuggets. Surprisingly tasty and the texture is pretty close to machine-fabbed meat ones. It's the best mock meat product for this reason.
-Trader Joe's Veggie Corndogs. My guilty pleasure. The texture of the hot dog itself is a bit weird, but the cornbread taste of the coating really elevates this product closely to the real thing.
-Mock duck. I get the stuff that comes in the blue can (ok, it's from China, but this stuff has always been consistent and no apparent recalls yet). I don't expect it to taste or even texturally resemble duck, but it's got good seasoning.
-Boca burgers. Good taste (it actually has a beefy flavor), texture is ok, though you'd never mistake it for beef. As far as veggie burgers go, this one is the best.
I am an unabashed carnivore, but a food-love first and as long as I like the taste of something, I'll eat it and even crave it. I think that if you try mock meat with the expectation that it's not going to taste anything like the real stuff, you'll find that it can taste good and you could conceivably enjoy it.
AnnieNT at 11:45AM on 10/22/09
even in one case saying how they are better than the real thing???
UM: if it's 'pretend' meat how can it taste bettern than the thing it's pretending to be????
My opinon: they have their place. I eat tofu dogs because hotdogs scare me. OW i have to be in the mood...I don't shun'em :)
hungrychristel at 1:45PM on 10/22/09
In my experience the only people who think mock meats taste like real meat are people who haven't had real meat for so long they don't remember what it tastes like.
I'm not opposed to not eating meat. I'm just generally opposed to eating anything that's pretending to be something it's not.
VerasTastyFreeze at 2:30PM on 10/22/09
I am a vegan, and I think mock meat is for people without taste buds.
maxie at 2:47PM on 10/22/09
I am not a vegetarian, but have some vegan friends. They're not huge fans of fake meats either. They said they only eat them for convenience, not taste.
I've had great success with MorningStar vegetable crumbles. They make great taco filling, sloppy joes or chili. Seitan and tofu adapt to almost any flavor profile too.
Like maxie said- mock meat is for people without taste buds.
CJ McD at 3:45PM on 10/22/09
really good: soyrizo - very diff consistancy from original, but excellent taste contribution. sandwich meats - for those who dont like feeling different or special; i mean think of what salami or bologna taste like - mostly spices. hot dogs - truly as good a method for carrying mustard as the regular thing. hamburgers - with all the selections there is one for everyone, fake meats and diff veggie flavors; my favorite is the orig morningstar which is kind of like burger meets egg foo yong. we used to get amazingly yummy meatballs, but alas i have not seen them in the store for months.
um, and as far as taste buds go, mine are muted, but whatever... they dont taste like meat. they arent suppossed to. they have similar added flavors, and similar uses. if they tasted like meat, they would be rather disturbing.
having had chorizo since soyrizo, we went back to soyrizo... it really is excellent.
blizcheetah at 4:43PM on 10/22/09
"Why the need for all caps? Are you that irritated, or just concerned? The idea of not eating meat or fish seems to be spazzing you out. Peace out, my friend."
@Brownie... Not irritated at all... If you look at my past posts, you'll see I always use all caps. Peace, right back atcha!
Pavlov at 7:18AM on 10/23/09
Apparently a lot of people like gardein. Can't vouch for it, tho.
KarynMC at 8:22AM on 10/23/09
Quorn mince is excellent for pasta sauce or sloppy joes. I'll even make tacos or enchiladas with them. The texture is good, but it always needs added flavour.
NotAmerican at 8:47AM on 10/23/09
Mock meat? No such thing. Either leave it or embrace it -- but "mock meat" is like trying to turn jello into asparagus.
On the bus, off the bus Please chose, folks.
tmj529 at 6:25AM on 10/24/09
@tmj; I like mock meat because while I enjoy the taste and texture of meat, I have ethical concerns with the way most of it is produced. I don't understand the anger mock meat arouses in some people. Do you feel the same way about artificial sweeteners or decaf coffee?
NotAmerican at 6:51AM on 10/24/09
I like seitan, tofu, and tempeh. That pre-packaged griller stuff in the freezer? No thanks.
avaryne at 1:09PM on 10/28/09
Do not do not do not enjoy mock meat. Read the back of the package on some of the stuff and shriek at the reality of what you're eating. You're better off eating a hunk of dead animal flesh in some cases.
Tofu and tofu products are not mock meat, they are a food in themselves and aren't supposed to be imitating anything, so I consider tofu edible. It should be appreciated not as a substitute but as its own entity with its own NOT meat like qualities. (I have the same rage over people drinking soy milk as "imitation" milk. No, soy milk isn't supposed to taste like melted ice cream. It's supposed to be beige and taste like beans! If you really want milk that bad, drink the milk!)
fuuchan at 2:50PM on 10/28/09