hamburger contents?
I bought hamburger that had huge veins in it and what I think are chunks of hide in it? this normal? or am I overreacting?
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31 Comments:
Definitely shouldn't have hide in it...
Golden at 1:34PM on 10/18/09
I no longer will buy pre-ground beef. You just don't know that you're getting. I buy large chuck roasts when they go on sale, and grind them myself with the Kitchen Aid attachment grinder. Sooooo much better tasting, its worth the effort.
dmcavanagh at 1:48PM on 10/18/09
I do the same thing as @dmcavanagh. You have no idea what is in that ground meat or what was in the grinder before that meat went in. I buy chuck roasts also and grind them as I need the meat. It's fresher, cleaner, more tender and you know what went in there. My KA meat grinder attachment is a godsend. If you don't have a Kitchen Aid just go buy a hand crank grinder (I still have my old one) - they're great too! As for the meat you got - take it back. I'd be outraged if I were you.
tapioca at 2:20PM on 10/18/09
I am , I even talked to the manager at the store(wal-mart) and she was going to check some of it. but I only noticed it after I cooked it up. I bought 2 big rolls of it and froze it up in seperate sacks. My husband says that we will start doing the same thing that Ya'll said to do by grinding up our own . YUCK.. My stomach !!
marylobb39@yahoo.com at 2:33PM on 10/18/09
@marylobb you and hubby will love it! It's like eating a totally different thing than the hamburger you buy. I run mine through the fine grinder twice for the texture we like for burgers.
tapioca at 2:44PM on 10/18/09
I will never buy beef at Wal-Mart. There is an off taste, and I think it's injected with solutions so it lasts longer. The beef rolls weird me out. The BIL brought us a big roll because I think he got it at some kind of discount somewhere. It's in the freezer. I have no idea what I'll ever do with it. Maybe if we run out of dog food someday....
We are fortunate to have two local grocers who grind their own meat and package it the same day. We know what we're getting.
As for Wal Mart, my hatred for them grows more every day; for various reasons.
soozm32 at 2:49PM on 10/18/09
It's a bit of a leap to go from buying tubed meat at Wal-Mart to grinding your own. Have you considered patronizing an actual butcher shop?
SqueezeBottle at 3:10PM on 10/18/09
Take it back to the store that you purchased it from.
Shouldn't have anything like that in it.
CJ McD at 3:19PM on 10/18/09
@squeezebottle i agree - i don't trust ground beef usually unless i'm at my local butcher shop, because my butcher knows exactly where its been and where its from. Also, i can usually get him to grind some chuck for me while i'm waiting if i don't want the ground chuck that he's got out.
Golden at 3:22PM on 10/18/09
Where the hell are India or China?
That sounds like road kill rather than anything you would get in a store.
tusti at 3:27PM on 10/18/09
Yeah, I am not a happy camper. I'm getting a food processor .We needed one anyways cause with hunting and all, we won't be getting our deer processed this year, we will be doing it ourselves. I'm not a big fan of deer hamburger, but I mite have to learn to like it after today.. I e-mailed our local TV station, 'bout the meat and it's contents.. I've had lots of people tell me that i shouldn't buy meat from wal-mart but I never listened but I think I learned my lesson!!
marylobb39@yahoo.com at 5:39PM on 10/18/09
@tusti: What the hell does India or China have to do with ground beef? Especially India, where the majority of the population doesn't eat beef, period, and the folks that do eat beef don't eat it ground.
inothernews at 8:54PM on 10/18/09
I'm going to go throw up a little now...
foodandscience at 9:03PM on 10/18/09
I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but for anyone who hasn't seen this article on agribiz beef in the New York Times should really check it out. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/health/04meat.html
The line that has turned me off to pre-ground beef for life was, "The frozen hamburgers that the Smiths ate, which were made by the food giant Cargill, were labeled 'American Chef’s Selection Angus Beef Patties.' Yet confidential grinding logs and other Cargill records show that the hamburgers were made from a mix of slaughterhouse trimmings and a mash-like product derived from scraps that were ground together at a plant in Wisconsin. The ingredients came from slaughterhouses in Nebraska, Texas and Uruguay, and from a South Dakota company that processes fatty trimmings and treats them with ammonia to kill bacteria."
A slurry of waste product and ammonia was labeled "Chef's Selection Angus Beef". Horrifying!
yayfood at 9:16PM on 10/18/09
My husband wants me to take what I found in the meat to our local butcher, maybe he can tell us what it is or at least what it looks like.. anyways I was talking to my neighbor and she said that her friend was peeling potatoes for a cookout and she found a staple embedded in it..Whats up with that? I think since I have a good size yard i might just put in a garden next year and not have to deal with what are at our local grocerie stores..
marylobb39@yahoo.com at 10:29PM on 10/18/09
@marylobb- Good idea by your husband. Let us know what you find out.
soozm32 at 11:26PM on 10/18/09
marylobb39, forgive me for this, but I just have to let this one loose: A teen is wearing a leather jacket and his friend says, "Dude, that's so cool. What's it made out of?" The first teen replies, "Hide," the second teen says, "What?" and the first teen says "You know, hide," and the second one says, "What?" and the first one says, "Hide, HIDE... the cow's outside." And the other teen says, "So what...I'm not afraid of a cow." Badumbump. Sorry.
Don't fear the cow, but do be afraid of everyone else that touches it before you get your hands on it.
The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror XX Halloween episode tonight had a bit about a new burger joint that opened in Springfield. It was different because a herd of cows was slaughtered and ground, and that ground beef was fed to other cows. The process was repeated and those cows were ground up and finally made into burgers. People who ate those burgers turned into zombies and began taking bites out of their neighbors. Scary, especially when--if you've followed The Simpsons at all for the past 20 years--you realize that a lot of the cartoon-y situations begin with a kernel of truth. Mad cow disease, anyone?
Eating a hamburger today is like bedding a stranger--you're not just sleeping with him, but also everyone else he's slept with. Parts of 20 cows in one pound of hamburger--not for me. It's healthier to be monogamous.
But I do love my burgers, and I like them to be pink in the center, so I rinse, chop and grind a hunk of chuck from one cow so that I don't have to worry as much about E. coli, salmonella, someone else's fingernail or finger.
None of these horror stories, books like "Fast Food Nation," USDA recalls or NY Times articles has turned my stomach enough to make me give up meat. Vegetarians, vegans and organic foodies have to worry about food-borne illnesses and finding foreign particles in their food, too. Until this nation wakes up to a better way, I'll grind my own.
betteirene at 2:25AM on 10/19/09
Not well ground meat but here is the probable cause. Usually the ground beef is run through several plates, reducing the size as it goes, so in regular hamburger you don't see these, coarse ground for chili it is more common. The stuff that looks like hide is probably a heavy piece of collagen, the protein that holds the muscles together. If you look at a chuck roast, you will see heavy connective tissues. As the commercial grinder grind the entire chuck, after removing the bones, they do not remove the connective tissue as you may do at home. What looks like a vein may actually be one. They do run through muscles and if you do not remove them before grinding , they get ground up. They are protein, edible and harmless to eat.
As i have ranted before, grinding your own meat doesn't make you immune to any form of food poisoning. If e coli is present, grinding it yourself means you mixed it in yourself. Trimming the surface off doesn't mean you didn't pull contamination from the old surface to the new surface. RInsing the meat doesn't necessarilly rinse off bacterial colonies.
Unless you see your butcher grinding whole roasts for ground meat, don't assume he is doing it all himself, every beef processor sells unground trimmings standardized for fat content that butchers, who label the meat for fat content, they don't have labs in the butcher shop to verify fat content.
Rare ground meats are NEVER 100% safe no matter who you buy them from or if you grind them yourself. Cook to 160 F if you value your family's health. Thousands of people ate the Cargill Meat that made that woman sick, she got sick from someone who did not safely cook the meat to kill what could have been there.
Meat guy at 8:55AM on 10/19/09
Did you make it?
Did you order it?
Sounds pretty funky. Meat Guy's got the answers for ya
hungrychristel at 9:48AM on 10/19/09
I agree with Meat Guy that the woman's illness could have been prevented had her burger been cooked thoroughly. I'm not turned off to all meat by any means, I just have no interest in eating the waste scraps that are ground up and sold as "beef". True, there is no way of eliminating all risk from your food, but I'd rather buy whole pieces of meat, do my best to remove whatever I want to remove, and grind it myself, rather than trust that a corporation, whose sole function is to turn a profit is going to provide a safe product.
yayfood at 9:52AM on 10/19/09
"@tusti: What the hell does India or China have to do with ground beef? Especially India, where the majority of the population doesn't eat beef, period, and the folks that do eat beef don't eat it ground."
Don't be so obtuse....you know very well what I meant!
tusti at 11:01AM on 10/19/09
Oh dear. It sounds like you might not be able to return it since you repackaged it and discarded the original packaging. I'd say you should call or write a letter (not an email) to WalMart headquarters. Explain the situation and ask them if they'd be willing to give you a refund, even without the package.
Good luck. Don't feed the beef to your family. Feed it to the dog or your garden. Let us know what happens.
Kerosena at 3:01PM on 10/19/09
I wanna go have beers with meat guy! I'll bet he could tell some stories!
Pavlov at 3:39PM on 10/19/09
@tusti--perhaps you'd like to clarify your statement. Because it sounds to me like you're making an ill-informed and racist intimation about more than 2 billion people who occupy this planet. At the very least, I'm curious to know exactly what flavour xenophobia and ethnocentrism you're working with.
BananaMonkey at 4:55PM on 10/19/09
I refuse do buy from WalMart period.
Modern-Corporate Monopolistic Capitalism disguised as a good deal
hungrychristel at 5:34PM on 10/19/09
tusti, I flat out don't understand what your comment was referring to. *Genuinely confused*
alosha7777 at 6:00PM on 10/19/09
I'm with Alosha...
Don't get it.
Maybe we should start an Obtuse Club?
soozm32 at 6:40PM on 10/19/09
"tusti, I flat out don't understand what your comment was referring to. *Genuinely confused*"
I really can't believe you all are all that thick.
In a nutshell I meant in the U.S. with all of the government meat inspections etc. I would think it most impossible that meat would make it to the butcher's case with the hide still on it. Is it that hard to figure out?
And bananamonkey, I would be very careful about throwing those terms around if I were you!
If I'm a raging racist nazi baby killing homophobe it's none of your damn business. I'm not buying into your PC brand of liberal "I'm better than you" crapola so get off of your high horse.
tusti at 6:59PM on 10/19/09
tusti, I am not "thick." That comment seemed to come out of nowhere, apropos of nothing that preceded it. I'm not sure how you can't see that... but thanks for the clarification.
alosha7777 at 7:32PM on 10/19/09
I must be really thick because I couldn't make heads or tails of it either.
SqueezeBottle at 7:46PM on 10/19/09
i get freshly ground beef from our local slaughter house and i always eat it rare. i've been doing this for years and years and i've never gotten sick, because the place raises their own cattle, processes respectfully. they don't do thousands and thousands and thousands of animals a day.....
the reason the department of disgusting death & disrespectful handling wants you to cook your meat until it resembles a greasy old suede coat is because they want to cover their asses because they really don't care about what they're actually feeding the people. that is not an appetizing proposition.
pooch at 8:33PM on 10/19/09