Cooking veggies, oil or butter?
I recently had picked up a bundle of asparagus, green beans, and scallions to stir fry as a side for some steaks.
I thought the classic was butter and garlic so I threw them in the wok with about a third a stick of butter and a clove of super thin sliced garlic, they came out great and tasted amazing. (Sea salt and ground pepper on top.)
The next day I see a post asking how to cook veggies and it seemed every response said vegetable oil (or olive oil) and garlic. Intrigued, I went home and heated the wok up with veggie oil, threw in the garlic and tried again with the leftover asparagus and sliced onion. It came out terribly!
The asparagus didnt look like it was getting soft and when it finally did it had turned mostly black, it tasted harsh and bitter, not to mention the oil splattering all over my hands every time I stirred the wok. So what gives? Is it just a health thing or did I mess something up?
For anyone interested this is the thread I'm referencing:
http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2009/10/new-to-greens.html
Add a comment:
Previewing your comment:
HTML Hints
Some HTML is OK: <a href="URL">link</a>, <strong>strong</strong>, <em>em</em>
Comment Guidelines
Post whatever you want, just keep it seriously about eats, seriously. We reserve the right to delete off-topic or inflammatory comments. Learn more at our Comment Policy page.
If you see something not so nice, please, report an inappropriate comment.
Start Talking!
Need a question answered? Have advice to share? Start a Talk topic now!
Sign up to get your questions answered and share advice.

13 Comments:
I very rarely cook vegetables in butter. Actually, the only one I can think of off the top of my head is broccoli rabe. I guess I'm more of an extra virgin olive oil girl.
PumpkinBear at 2:47PM on 10/12/09
If you're cooking in the wok using the high temps that are intended, then neither olive or or butter would be a good idea, because both would burn at those temps. And if the oil is splashing, you've got way too much oil.
I don't know how well a wok would be at cooking at lower temps, because that's not what it's designed for. Seems like it would take way too long for anything to cook, because there's not that much cooking surface at the bottom. A frying pan or sautee pan or any wide, shallow pan would make a lot more sense.
dbcurrie at 3:02PM on 10/12/09
When I do a vegie saute I use either veg oil or most often, olive oil. Sometimes depending on my mood and the vegie involved I'll add butter to the oil for an added flavor dimension. I rarely use straight butter to saute because it burns so easily but it's really just a matter of taste. I use bacon fat the same way. Don't know why you had such a bad outcome with the olive oil in the wok unless you just had too much in there. I'm not really a fan of wok cooking I really prefer the saute pan.
tapioca at 3:19PM on 10/12/09
I was ready to say oil for sauteing when I saw you were talking asparagus. I'd do butter for asparagus. probably beans, too, and definitely mushrooms. Otherwise I generally use oil (though I might think of another exception.) And as dbcurrie said, i wouldn't use either in a wok or pan at high temperature.
When I roast asparagus I use olive oil, and it comes out just right. The problem may very well be the temperature.
lemonfair at 4:55PM on 10/12/09
Depends on what you cook. For stuff like squash and zucchini, I prefer butter, but for asparagus..well, actually for asparagus, I prefer to boil for 2 minutes. Spinach is excellent with butter (but I usually boil it for 10 seconds).
Cassaendra at 6:01PM on 10/12/09
I'm with Cassaendra on blanching first before sauteing, for some vegetables.
hmw0029 at 6:04PM on 10/12/09
I cook most of my veggies with olive oil except for asparagus, and mushrooms. I use butter for those.
gingercookiewithlime at 10:40PM on 10/12/09
I use olive oil (and some lemon) when I roast or grill asparagus. Turns out great!
joyyy at 10:59PM on 10/12/09
I've never really thought about it, but I vary depending on the veggies. For our spicy garlic rappini I start with a hot pan, add EVOO, toss in the vedge and gnocchi, it smokes and the gnocchi get a nice sear. Then I toss, season, and throw in a dollop of butter to finish.
For our saute of trumpets, carrot and shallot, and snap peas I start by adding the trumpets to a hot dry pan. Toss in some butter, which smokes. Let the mushrooms get nice and dark brown then throw in the snap peas with a little EVOO. Finally throw in the carrot and shallot with seasoning and toss a few times to let everything get nice and hot.
We cook most stuff in EVOO at the restaurant, but pan seared fish we use a 90/10 blend of soybean and EVOO. If you're going to cook at wok level heat with butter you really do need to be fast though. you've got mere seconds to cook with before burning starts.
phenoderr at 11:53PM on 10/12/09
i usually start in olive or vegetable oil, and sometimes finish with a little butter if i'm sauteeing, but it would vary with the vegetable and the flavor profile i'm going for (ex. asian-themed foods i never use butter, because it doesn't seem to go, but something with a more french/american theme i probably would). @dbcurrie hit it right on the money re: wok.
billyburgwife at 12:16AM on 10/13/09
Eureka! @AyeEat, you discovered the reason that cooking is so much fun and is challenging and rewarding, both when it works and when it doesn't. One of the amazing things about cooking is discovering how the taste and flavor of one food can be so affected by changing one little detail of preparation: the amount of heat applied; the type of heat applied (dry oven heat, intense broiler/grill heat, steam, etc.) butter vs. olive oil vs. peanut oil; how it's cut (or not); what it's being served with; what it's being cooked with; raw vs. blanched; fresh vs. frozen; how it's seasoned before, during and after cooking; the point at which any herbs are added; what kind of liquid is added and when; what your astrological forecast predicts; and on and on and on.
The thread you referenced was not for veggies: it was for greens--spinach, kale, collard, turnip, and whatever else that's leafy. I saute spinach in butter, kale in olive oil, collard greens with ham fat (and stock) because I like those combinations of flavors--my taste buds don't think kale works well with butter, but with olive oil and garlic--wow.
Technically, you cooked your first batch of vegetables in butter in a wok: they weren't stir-fried. To properly stir-fry, whether you do it in a wok or a skillet or a pot, you introduce your vegetables, either all together or one kind at a time, to almost-smoking oil over very high heat. The very high heat necessary for a proper stir-fry would have turned your butter bitter and burned your butter to the high heavens.
Butter contains water, which contributes steam, which helped cook your asparagus the first time around. Oil contains no water, so I'd guess your raw asparagus was fried the second time around; blanching the asparagus first would have helped.
Use our comments as a guide, not a cooking bible. Just don't stop learning what works for you and what doesn't.
betteirene at 12:20AM on 10/13/09
i've been on a steaming kick lately...
gastronomeg at 11:12AM on 10/13/09
thanks everyone!
Tons of tips for veggies, I'll have to start eating more now.
And apparently I need to learn how to use my wok, I'll work on that :)
AyeEat at 2:37PM on 10/13/09