Pasta Without a Pasta Machine: Mission Impossible?
So, the thread on ravioli fillings has me craving homemade ravioli. The only problem is that I don't have a pasta machine, and I don't want to invest in one, because I probably won't use it all that often. Has anyone here had any success with rolling out pasta with a rolling pin? Is there a recommended technique/recipe? (Disclaimer: I've only tried making pasta from scratch once before - using a pasta machine - and it turned out pretty rubbery...)
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17 Comments:
Junie-
I have made ravioli, tortellini, and fettuccine without a pasta roller. You just have to use some serious arm muscle to roll it out thin enough. tortellini i found were a bit easier to get the desired thickness because I rolled out each little circle separately, (instead of one giant sheet) put the filling in, then folded it into shape.
Stretch and hydrate, you'll be good to go! :-)
biabiaboiler at 9:25AM on 08/04/09
Thanks, bia! I'll guess I'll have to make an afternoon of it. : )
Junie at 9:45AM on 08/04/09
Oh yes, absolutely The vast majority of the time when make fresh pasta I don't even bother to take out the machine. As biabiaboiler said, it just takes a lot of elbow grease.
I know you're making ravioli, but just FYI--my technique for making fettuccine (and other "long" pastas) is, after rolling to desire thickness, roll the pasta up, jelly roll style (starting with the shorter side) and then cut small slices. Then unravel them. I let them rest on a towel, or a cookie sheet, whichever. Maybe sprinkle a little more semolina flour on them to prevent sticking, though I have never really had a problem with that. It's a bit time consuming, but I find it almost theraputic.
Enjoy!
italiagirl84 at 10:07AM on 08/04/09
here's a video of laura schenone, the author of "the lost ravioli recipes of hoboken" making ravioli dough, rolling it out, and filling and cutting the ravioli.
cybercita at 10:26AM on 08/04/09
oops! forgot to include the link. here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkoSY50FUBM
cybercita at 10:26AM on 08/04/09
Remember not to work your dough to much. That is what will give it that tough or rubbery texture. It should melt in your mouth.
You will find such pleasure in making your own pasta-ohmmmmm.
janaatwg at 10:36AM on 08/04/09
@cybercita - Thanks for the video!
@janaatwg - Does overworking the dough mean both over-kneading it, and rolling it out too much? Stupid question, I know, but I don't want to screw it up.
Junie at 10:55AM on 08/04/09
Marcella Hazan's instructions on rolling out pasta by hand have been very helpful to me. It is a specific technique, where you first roll out the dough to a flat round without worrying about how thin it is. Then you gather one edge of the dough and wrap it around your roller, just so the end is tucked under (as if you were to roll the whole piece up on your pin). Next you use your fingertips to roll the pin back and forth, while at the same time exerting pressure on the dough to stretch it out towards the ends of the pin. It sounds awkward, or like chewing gum and walking at the same time, but once you get the hang of it, it works pretty well and is a fairly quick process. Plus, by stretching out the dough in this manner, I have never torn a hole in it, as you might by repeatedly trying to roll it flat. You will have to unroll the pasta sheet, turn it, and roll it again from another angle a couple times in order to get it as thin and even as you want. I found this technique in Hazan's Classic Italian Cook Book, but I am sure it is repeated in some of her other books.
coffeeandapieceofpie at 11:58AM on 08/04/09
@coffeeandapieceofpie - I'm going to see if I can dig up that cookbook at the library - thanks!
Junie at 1:06PM on 08/04/09
i think it would also help if you can get your hands on 00 flour from italy. it's extra low protein so that the gluten doesn't get too strong.
cybercita at 2:48PM on 08/04/09
lidia bastianich has a fabulous chapter (with a bazillion pictures) on making different pastas with or without a roller in her book lidia's family table. i made her 2-egg pasta, rolled it out by hand, cut it into long, thick strips with a pizza cutter, sauced them with marcella hazan's tomato sauce with onions... and was happier than a clam!
punkrockmartha at 2:51PM on 08/04/09
Okay, so here's he deal. You can make ravioli without a pasta machine, and though I appreciate that someone posted my theatrical video on youtube above, what you see me do here is the old fashioned art of slapping and stretching pasta, which takes a long time to learn and very few people practice this craft anymore. I learned it in Italy. And though this kind of stretched pasta is superior as Marcella Hazan describes in her book because of its porous and gossamer quality, you can achieve the same thing that a pasta machine does by simpling rolling really hard back and forth with a regular old rolling pin until it is 1/16 of an inch thick. You'll find this easier if you use a lower gluten flour, or even just make a slightly wetter dough and let it rest a good long time in a sealed plastic bag so it doesn't snap back on you. I spent two years obsessed with ravioli and lived a ravioli/pasta life for several years--so if you want more you might check out www.lostravioli.com. You might not be thrilled with your first few efforts but stick with it and you'll be glad you did. It's worth it.
Laura Schenone at 5:53PM on 08/04/09
Ravioli and lasagna are the only pastas I make from scratch and without a machine. I use a rolling pin suggested by Julia Child, an 18" length of a 1.5" dowel.
betteirene at 1:00AM on 08/05/09
Others have already said, make a wetter dough and let it autolyse ( rest to absorb the liquids ).
For ravioli by hand, take very small pieces of pasta and roll them out into thin rounds. Roll, turn 1/4 turn, roll again. Repeat until you have what you are looking for. You can also cut them with a round cookie cutter if you are having trouble with uniformity.
Make 1/2 moon shaped ravioli by folding the round over the filling and sealing.
climbhighak at 2:38AM on 08/05/09
So, if I were to attempt to make a wetter dough and let it autolyse, how much wetter would I want to make it? Is there a specific amount of water I'd want to add?
What about adding in some gluten relaxer? I've never used it before, but a friend said it's useful when making pizza dough, because it makes it easier to roll out...or I suppose I could always just try to locate the 00 flour!
Junie at 9:49AM on 08/05/09
use the 00 flour rather than a relaxer. yuck.
the question of how wet... well, it can't be sticking, so there is only so wet you can go. The idea is that when it's wet, it rolls out thinner and snaps back less. good luck!
laura schenone
www.lostravioli.com
Laura Schenone at 7:37PM on 08/06/09
Yes, Junie. I should have been more clear. I notice in some recipes that it suggests far too much time in the kneading process. Just knead until the flour is mixed in and the dough isn't too wet. It may take you a time or two to find out what is perfect. Just think-you will have several relaxing afternoons. I like Lidia Bastianich's recipe for pasta. I use a little less flour, though.
janaatwg at 8:06PM on 08/06/09