Worms in fish!
I couldn't believe it. i went to cook a piece of fish, and there was this white very thin "stick." When I went to flick it off, it moved.
Yikes!
The fish department at the supermarket where I shop said Yes, there are worms in many types of fish. If the fish is v. fresh, you are more likely to notice. If the fish is frozen or cooked, the worms are dead.
I didn't grow up knowing this. My mother didn't tell me. My mother-in-law didn't tell me. Both very fastidious women with food freshness, etc.
I've been a big consumer of fish for all the health benefits. But lately, it's been tough to buy it. Also, I used to love sushi, but...
What do you know; what have you experienced? Tips?
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36 Comments:
I went to a fish place where you pick out your fish and they cook it for you. When we sat down to eat it I noticed these "strings" in the fish. It took me YEARS to eat sushi again. As for fish I try and only purchase from the best seafood market in town.
DELICIOUS at 2:07PM on 07/24/09
Wow, okay, I've never seen worms in my fish. Now I'm wondering if they've been there all along and I just never noticed :\
blisseau at 2:26PM on 07/24/09
holy hell. i'm totally creeped out. file that under things i never wanted to know.
gastronomeg at 2:30PM on 07/24/09
wild seafood always has the possibility of parasites. That is why Sushi chefs in Japan have long apprentiships and training periods, to identify and remove the obvious. THere have been cases of transmission to humans from improperly prepared raw fish. There are reasons humans learned to cook food.
Meat guy at 2:32PM on 07/24/09
yup. pretty common in salmon and fresh water fish.
hmw0029 at 2:57PM on 07/24/09
More common in warmer weather, be especially on the lookout for worms in cod at this time of the year.
dmcavanagh at 3:50PM on 07/24/09
So what do you do when you find the worm(s)?
Throw the fish out?
Pick off the worms?
What?
Ruffles1 at 4:11PM on 07/24/09
Eating raw fish can result in anisakiasis, an infection caused by an infestation of Anisakis worm larvae.
Now, don't panic, it's not that bad. They're not BIG worms. Not like one of those tapeworms, which can be a foot or two in length and take up more room in your abdominal cavity than you do.
No, these are LITTLE worms. They grow up to a mere one inch in length.
If you're lucky, the worms will wind up in your stomach, where the chief symptom is generally a sudden attack of intolerable pain. It starts within 12 hours after eating the affected fish and continues for two or three days, until the worms expire.
If you're not as fortunate, the larvae head down to your intestines, where they can take up permanent residence.
Cases of anisakiasis turn up from time to time in Japan and the Netherlands, where raw fish eating is common. Here the disorder is often misdiagnosed as appendicitis, peptic ulcer, or stomach cancer.
The only treatment is to poke a tube down your craw and remove the larvae one by one. The only preventive measure is to cook the fish or else freeze it at least three days.
Some of the assassins who run sushi bars will tell you they can check for worms by "candling," holding the fish up to the light and cutting out the larvae before slapping what's left on your platter.
The Centers for Disease Control, however, say the efficacy of this method is on a par with rain dancing.
Martini Me at 4:12PM on 07/24/09
Well I guess I am off sushi again!
DELICIOUS at 4:16PM on 07/24/09
@Martini Me - are you joking or serious?
Ruffles1 at 4:36PM on 07/24/09
@Ruffles
Martini Me's description of Anisakiasis is pretty much correct and it's the most common worm found in popular fish. there are about 1000-2000 cases per year in Japan but I've never had it personally (and haven't heard of anybody I know getting it) despite the "normal" amount of sashimi consumed throughout my life there.
But apparently the worms try to eat through your gut wall, bleeding and all, thus the intense pain.
hmw0029 at 4:46PM on 07/24/09
He isn't joking. Wild parasites are common and the human body will support all sort of intestinal and muscle encysting worms. That is why many of us don't favor Seared free range pork and raw and seared fish. Cook to Kill.
Meat guy at 4:53PM on 07/24/09
Also, Anksakis is killed after 24 hours at -20C (regular freezer) so most flash-frozen fish that are shipped long distance should be fine.
hmw0029 at 5:10PM on 07/24/09
Oh no.
I have a new perspective on life ARGH!
Thank you sincerely for posting this topic.
hungrychristel at 5:12PM on 07/24/09
grrr! sorry for numerous typos and errors in most of my posts.
hmw0029 at 5:12PM on 07/24/09
This is good to know! I'm heading out to the beach next month and will be sure to freeze all my catch for at least 24 hours before I cook it.
AyeEat at 5:34PM on 07/24/09
Yikes! I think i will stick to fishsticks.
chardonnay at 6:50PM on 07/24/09
I eat a lot of fish, more so than meat, and I've never seen these things as far as I know. I have had stringy tuna though - was that a parasite?
Also, do they live in the meat of the fish while it's alive and are there when you take a fresh fish and cut it up? Or do they get there after the thing is dead?
yayfood at 9:19PM on 07/24/09
Anyone know if curing the fish, as in home made gravlax, would be sufficient to kill any parasites?
Nicholas H at 11:39PM on 07/24/09
My cousin was manager of a huge Japanese restaurant in a major American city. He told me that all their fish - including that used for sushi - was frozen before it was used because of the parasites.
And yes, the parasites are still there, only dead. Yummy, huh?
Then I got to be friends with a marine biologist from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution who told me why he never ate anything from the oceans, and, after that, I never ate fish again.
Never will............................
Womandingo at 11:57PM on 07/24/09
Oh no, I read this on my way out, some friends were at a local japanese restaurant (that has "arguiles" or some sort of smoking pipes, I still don't get why), needless to say I started thinking about the grill/barbeque thing that was going on in my house and rushed home...
mtgall at 12:18AM on 07/25/09
I worked with a guy who used to tell horror stories about the worms he pulled out of swordfish. Big worms. Frequently.
wookie at 12:28AM on 07/25/09
Well, I'm off fish now. At least for a while, until I forget all the stuff I just read.
blisseau at 1:06AM on 07/25/09
I had come to the same conclusion after watching "Monsters Inside Me" on Animal planet about parasites. No more raw fish for now. I'll miss it.
vickiee at 1:51AM on 07/25/09
So is there a difference between parasites in fish and parasites in pork? I mean in pork, you cook it longer and then it isn't dangerous any more. Same for fish??
Ruffles1 at 6:09AM on 07/25/09
Halibut is full of worms.....my mom used to pick them out, but finally gave up and we enjoyed the extra protein.
Fred Rickson at 9:08AM on 07/25/09
@Nicholas H--Yes, curing is supposed to kill any parasites (as in homemade gravlax). If you're concerned about the quality of the fish you're buying, just freeze it for 24 hours, then thaw and proceed as usual. That's what my Norwegians tell me and it's worked so far...
littlestcapy at 9:22AM on 07/25/09
does salmon have worms, too? i have heard about halibut and cod, but how about salmon from colder waters, like scottish or norwegian salmon?
i've been off fish for some time now.... it's such a shame because i love a good piece of fish.... i usually stick to salmon (wild or arctic char)....
pooch at 9:33AM on 07/25/09
@pooch
salmon commonly has Anisakis. The parasite's natural hosts are whales and dolphins, and whales migrate to the north..
hmw0029 at 10:08AM on 07/25/09
People, usually jewish women, who prepare gefilte fish, often taste the raw fish mix as they season it. Some have found themselves with a tape worm as a result.
A NY Times article on this tells of a doctor's wife who got very sick. She had a tapeworm in her intestine three feet long. The worm required a powerful purging medicine to get it out.
Diphyllobothrium latum, the fish tapeworm, was identified by the pathologist.
Link to article: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/08/health/08case.html
Remander at 8:46PM on 07/26/09
A June article in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases reported the worldwide reach of incidents of tapeworms that grow inside humans to nearly 40 feet in length. The most serious carrier, according to a Scientific American summary, is salmon sashimi. (Anthony Franz's 2008 lawsuit against a Chicago sushi restaurant, for a 9-foot-long tapeworm, is still pending.) [ScientificAmerican.com, 6-11-09]
from New of the Weird
Meat guy at 8:58AM on 07/27/09
Great i'm on my way to work soon, @ a restaurant, I don't even want to look at the fish in the cooler, this story is creeping me out, Im glad I dont eat any fish there. Ewwwww
WSLunch at 9:08AM on 07/27/09
what about shellfish????? i'm off fish ... period.
pooch at 9:56AM on 07/27/09
Went vegetarian last week. Was missing seafood. Not anymore.
unpocojmoney at 8:56AM on 07/30/09
@ Ruffles - unfortunately my post was totally serious :( horrifying but true
Martini Me at 3:18PM on 07/31/09
I have an aunt who refuses to eat fish. She told me there were worms in fish. At the time, I thought, it can't be that common. Well, after reading through all these posts, I've changed my mind. I am also wondering when is the next time I will have sushi (it's inevitable, I will have some at some point in time).
hungryhungryhippo at 3:52AM on 08/19/09