Who uses recipes and who is winging it?
Just wondering how much we all throw things together as opposed to looking up a recipe. I do most of my cooking on the fly except for certain baked goods that I don't make very often. Sometimes I'll go looking for ideas on something new to do with chicken say and then just use the idea but not follow the recipe. I wonder how many of you do the same.
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34 Comments:
never for cooking, almost always for baking.
cybercita at 1:46PM on 05/31/09
Yes, you usually have to stick to recipes for baking...we all know that but for cooking, I usually look up recipe IDEAS...then I just add or take away my own preferences. I think we can all agree that once you've mastered basic techniques you can pretty much wing it after that. I guess that's why some things I make all the time NEVER taste exactly the same. But I am always learning!
arm1970 at 1:57PM on 05/31/09
I hardly ever bake, so I am terrified - I use the recipe completely. However, when I cook it is the opposite, I often just use the idea and add my own ingredients and that is why I watch some food network shows, for ideas.
Unfortunately, I am addicted to cookbooks - I have lots and I love to read them. I just wish I followed them more closely!
bareneed at 2:00PM on 05/31/09
I use some recipes, I go off the map sometimes and I strive to learn formulas and ratios. The science behind baking and cooking is the thing that enables you to go off the recipe. Rulman has a great book out recently that is a must read for recipe people and non recipe people as well called Ratio: The Simple Codes Behind the Craft of Everyday Cooking
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1416566112/ref=nosim/ruhlmancom
This is a great reference book and I think a bargain price because you will use it again and again.
JerzeeTomato at 2:15PM on 05/31/09
Always for baking! I tend to screw things up if I don't have at least a list of ingredients.
As for normal meals... only the first few times I make something.
gingercookiewithlime at 2:25PM on 05/31/09
When I use a recipe for the first time, I will almost always try to follow it to the letter. If I find that I don't have everything the recipe calls for, that's when I start improvising. OTOH, I very often do not use recipes at all. I just walk into the kitchen, take what I can find and start cooking, especially if I am in the mood for soup.
When it comes to baking though, I try to be as precise as I can and use a scale to weigh things out. I'll often use a spreadsheet to calculate weights from volume measurements. That often leads to my discovering that the original formula needs adjusting. Knowing how much flour in a cup is often an iffy business.
Grumpy Old Man at 2:33PM on 05/31/09
Much of what I cook is completely recipeless. Sometimes I think about what I want to end up with and do what I have to do to get there. Sometimes I start with what I've got and create as I go.
If I'm making a completely new thing, I tend to look for a bunch of recipes and then settle on one for the key ingredients and techniques, and then maybe I'll fiddle with spices or other add-ins along the way. If it's completely new to me (as in, I've never seen or eaten it before, so I have no idea how it's supposed to end up) I might follow one recipe religiously.
When I bake, I mostly follow recipes, but since I'm at high altitude, there's always a little tweaking to adjust for that. And I might also fiddle a bit with flavorings and add-ins.
With my "usual" bread, I don't really measure, and the recipe changes depending on my whims. But I also bake breads from recipes, and I do follow those.
For a while, I was ignoring my cookbooks for recipe-following, although I did use them for inspiration. Now I find that I'm enjoying the cookbooks a lot more again. The big difference for me was getting bifocal contact lenses. Crazy, eh? But with reading glasses and taking them off and putting them on while trying to cook -- that was no fun at all. Now it's a lot more enjoyable.
dbcurrie at 2:33PM on 05/31/09
I am with you, tapioca. All the way.
I usually create recipes rather than follow them, but I love the inspiration that comes from perusing recipes, and if it is my first time trying my hand at a method or technique, or if it is something foreign I have never even tasted before, I will follow the recipe as close to the letter as possible, and then play with it once I feel I have mastered it.
But, in general, if I follow a recipe identically, I don't feel the meal is actually my creation, and I don't so much enjoy the compliments I receive from it. Oddly, I am proud for recognizing it was a good recipe before I made it, because that is a skill in itself, but otherwise it's more like "thank you, isn't it a great recipe? I agree! And, I will be sure to post a comment for the recipe writer to let them know it was a success." Because, all I managed to do was get it right, and not flub the formula. I know it's silly, but that's how I feel about it.
Fun question! Thanks!!
~ Paula
Paula Maack at 2:50PM on 05/31/09
Thanks JerzeeTomato for the book recommendation. It sounds really interesting. I'm going to check it out.
tapioca at 3:31PM on 05/31/09
Definitely just coming up with my own ideas. My blog is mostly recipes I invent depending on what I have on hand, or what's on sale at the store.
But I do like looking through magazines and web sites to get inspirations.
orchidgirl at 4:01PM on 05/31/09
Even though I adore cookbooks & collect them, I rarely use a recipe for cooking but often for baking.
kathyvegas at 4:45PM on 05/31/09
Generally I read a couple of recipes for ideas, then wing it.
For baking- Might reduce the sugar or add a spice or nuts. I usually follow the recipe pretty closely.
CJ McD at 4:50PM on 05/31/09
I'm winging it unless I'm specifically trying to re-create a certain dish or if I'm working on a new/unfamiliar technique then I will consult a recipie or a combination of recipies.
One of my favorite exercises in the kitchen is to imagine my own recipie, then follow it to the letter and see how closely the result matches my expectations.
brickh at 4:58PM on 05/31/09
i feel free to range from recipes. i used a cobbler recipe to make my strawberry rhubarb pie because i had its proportions and no other online recipe i found for pie had them.
i made banana bread with chapati flour and bread flour to replace part of the wheat flour. i didnt have any other wheat... i used nutmeg and ground clove instead of allspice. and it turned out fine.
sometimes you have to make stuff up because you have something you want and othertimes because they want something you dont have.
blizcheetah at 6:04PM on 05/31/09
I've gotten fed up with recipes full of ingredients I either don't have, can't get easily or don't want, so I'm winging it on my own most of the time.
dmcavanagh at 6:38PM on 05/31/09
I'm about 50-50%. And though I do frequently try new recipes I've read, seen or heard, I can't remember one that I didn't mess with.
MMinNYC at 6:41PM on 05/31/09
I'm a recipe-follower, especially for baking, but even just cooking regular food. Sometimes I'll substitute this for that, if I don't have something or don't like what the recipe suggests, but for the most part I follow them closely. I only wing stuff I know for sure how to make on my own, or I'm feeling lazy and experimental that day.
blisseau at 6:44PM on 05/31/09
Generally for baking it's a recipe--although with bread I use my judgement as far as just how much flour...my brother in law has observed that it's a how does it feel, how much does it pull away from the bowl thing with me. He loves my bread and pizza and I've been under his microscope of late so he can make them at home.
If I'm not baking it's improv all the way. Sure I look at recipes for inspiration, but I fly by the seat of my pants (or pantry/fridge/garden) most of the time.
And boy am I looking forward to my garden!!
dhorst at 6:57PM on 05/31/09
@dhorst-be sure to plant some basil in that garden,fresh basil on that homemade pizza can't be beat.
dmcavanagh at 7:04PM on 05/31/09
Baking I use a recipe, though if its something I've done several times I don't have to stare and scrutinize the recipe so much.
Cooking, I prefer recipe free cooking. It's quicker, less clean up (hell if I'm going to pull out the measuring cups just for dinner), and I'll get something that I've seasoned to fit my own tastebuds.
fuuchan at 7:32PM on 05/31/09
what's a recipe?
huneybumper at 7:34PM on 05/31/09
The first time I prepare something created by another, I stick to the recipe. I want to see what the author intended the dish to be and the only way to know this is to follow the recipe verbatim. If I choose to prepare the recipe a second time, all bets are off. I'll likely add my own favorite ingredients and/or omit an ingredient called for by the recipe author. i.e. If I felt the recipe was too dry, I might add more stock or non-sat-fat.
Baking = 100% of the time, I follow the recipe; even those I write. Successful baking depends on the chemical reactions caused by the exact ratio of the ingredients as listed in the recipe. i.e. Flour, baking powder/soda/cream of tartar or yeast, plus eggs, fats and liquids + the proper amount of heat cause the goo to become cake. While adding a half cup of chopped walnuts or chocolate chips will likely not affect this chemical outcome, you can't just arbitrarily decide "Hmmmmmm, this needs more cream of tartar."
Great familiarity with the formulas involved in baking will enable a baker to "wing it" to some degree. (i.e. Subbing part of the AP flour with whole wheat flour.) Unless you can afford to toss an entire recipe's worth of ingredients into the trash, it's best to stick with T&T baking recipes.
therealchiffonade at 6:13AM on 06/01/09
For the most part I think of recipes as guidelines more than anything. Oddly enough, I'm really nervous about making anything without a recipe, but when I rarely follow them exactly. I always add stuff in or take it away or do things differently.
EXCEPT for baking. Then I measure down to the last 1/8 of a teaspoon.
embolini9 at 8:25AM on 06/01/09
@dmcavanagh--I have lots of basil thriving! You're certainly right about fresh basil on a pizza just out of the oven--such a heavenly aroma.
dhorst at 8:55AM on 06/01/09
usually winging it in a semi-structured way.
i don't follow recipes but because i have to produce the same product over and over - i follow my method and then at times embellish it a bit. except for chicken pot pies which i have to make the same always..... it's fun to come up with different variations. i feel like if i'm getting tired of cooking it, people must be getting tired of eating it!
pooch at 9:28AM on 06/01/09
I'm all about recipes, but I come from a baking background, so I guess that makes sense. For cooking, I can venture out a little bit, but I always have something guiding me for the key ingredients or instructions. I think it's because I love reading recipes and they are usually the inspiration for me cooking in the first place. I figure if I have something that inspires me, I might as well follow it and see where it leads.
meem21 at 10:10AM on 06/01/09
jerzee beat me to the punch about 'ratio' by ruhlman.
mostly i tend use recipes though.
gastronomeg at 10:39AM on 06/01/09
Like most good cooks, I'll read through a recipe just to get ideas; then I put my own spin on it. Even with baking, I stick to the basic formula for the dry and wet ingredients, but I might jazz things up a bit with different flavorings and match up different frostings to the ones listed with the cake recipes.
SavtaShayna at 12:57PM on 06/01/09
i use a recipe when making something entirely unfamiliar to me, like the first time I made falafel, or scallion pancakes, or pickles.
All of these, it seems to me, are hard are to know if they'll be good until its done. Also, texture is key for these, so its good to get a recipe from someone who's tried different variations already.
engmcmuffin at 1:30PM on 06/01/09
@honeybumper-
I just saw an apron that says "Recipe? What's a recipe? I'm Italian!" in a nearby Italian grocery store.
hmw0029 at 1:37PM on 06/01/09
I often look over a number of recipes, mentally marinate on the topic, and then WING IT.
Kerosena at 4:07PM on 06/01/09
I'm addicted to cookbooks too but most of the time I don't use them. I will even go so far as to buying all the ingredients called for in a recipe that I want to try and then wing it anyway or make something completely different. One of my "goals" for this year was to use my cookbooks more. It hasn't really happened yet. But I did look through a couple over the weekend and mark some recipes to try. We'll see if it happens. I haven't been grocery shopping since my eye surgery two weeks ago - it's time to cook some real food again.
CooksForOne at 5:02PM on 06/01/09
I find that I have a serious mental problem with recipes. I can't remember a time where I followed the recipe exactly. I might need counseling....what do you call that??? I was once employed as a baker in a 'chain' enterprise. I had daily bakery items I was not supposed to deviate from. Sorry, I did..and created some items that customers still ask me for...even though the restaurant/bakery went out of business.
I love cookboooks and buy them constantly..but use the recipes in them to lay a groundwork for the flavors and tastes my family enjoys.
lamora at 2:32AM on 06/02/09
When I cook for a group, I usually follow a recipe, if inexactly. But because I usually just cook for myself, I most often wing it. Like others, I'll get inspiration from recipes or from what's in the fridge. I print out plenty of recipes from various websites and cut them out from magazines, so I have quite the collection -- if only I could afford to throw more dinner parties to try them out!
woodenspoon at 3:54PM on 06/02/09