Cooking for your pets
Does anyone cook or bake food/treats for their pets?
Personally, I have considered baking some treats for my rabbit, but she can't have much sugar. As it is, she's pretty spoiled; I give her a bowl of a fresh veggie salad every morning.
Any stories or recipes to share?
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Nope, I think it is kinda obsessive, unless that is, your pet has a health condition that requires it to eat special foods, and you are willing to do it.
katiedid at 12:38PM on 05/28/09
Every time my parents tried a recipe to make treats for their cat, she didn't like any of it. She made that "who are you kidding" face that cats are so famous for... It might have been a waste of food, but I guess it was worth the chuckle to see her face. I don't know rabbits well, so I can't suggest anything good.
meem21 at 12:45PM on 05/28/09
At Christmas I bake 'dog bones' for my grand dogs.
goodcooker at 12:48PM on 05/28/09
I cook for my two dachshunds, so apparently, I'm "kinda obsessive".
It started when the big one had serious stomach problems, but he didn't want to return to dog food when he got better (and I can't blame him). And just like I like knowing what's in our food (which is why we don't buy processed food for ourselves), I actually like it that I know exactly what they eat. It's no big deal really - I throw together veg (such as broccoli, cauliflower, carrots and/or green beans - sometimes fresh, sometimes frozen) and ground meat (beef or turkey, or a mix of both), add some olive oil and bake in a covered baking tin. When it's ready, I chop it and add a bit of brown rice (I don't always add the rice). It takes exactly 1 minute to put together before putting it in the oven, and 2 more minutes to chop it. I've spoken to my vet, so this diet has been "vet-approved".
brooke29 at 12:59PM on 05/28/09
People learned how to cook food a long time ago, but animals never got in the habit; they've evolved to eat raw foods. I really think that cooking food for them is more to our benefit than theirs. Partially emotionally, because it makes us feel good that we're doing something special, and because it makes Fluffy seem less savage to eat cooked hamburger rather than raw hunks of meat and bone. And cooked and processed kibble lasts a lot longer at room temp than a gunnysack full of squirrels.
And I believe (but could be madly wrong) that feeding them a diet that's closer to what they'd naturally eat is better for them.
That said, I hate to waste food, and when I dumped a bunch of flour on the floor, I scooped it up to make dog cookies.
As for the bunny, instead of trying to make treats from things that bunnies don't normally eat, how about drying foods that she'd normally eat raw? I don't know that she'd actually like them better, but if she does eat them, it would be a way to preserve some produce that might not last long enough otherwise.
dbcurrie at 1:09PM on 05/28/09
I make doggie liver treats every christmas. Found out the cats loved them when they knocked the jar over and devoured 1/2 of them. Now with 2 good sized dogs in the house and a puppy on the way, looks like I'll be making triple batch for xmas.
huneybumper at 1:21PM on 05/28/09
During the hot summer days I like to make frozen peanut butter treats for my dog. I use plain low fat yogurt and melt some peanut butter, then mix the two together and freeze the mixture in cupcake tins. Makes a great cold treat for the dog and he loves them.
sousvide at 1:26PM on 05/28/09
When it was really cold in the winter growing up, my parents used to heat up some dog food in a saucepan with milk and whatever leftovers weren't going to get eaten so the dogs had a nice warm meal.
My bf's dog gets a can of drained unsalted green beans with his food to keep his weight down (and avoid hip dysplasia (sp?), he's a lab/retriever mix so it's a pretty big concern). If we're out and I have other green veggies around, sometimes I'll cut up and heat up say, a little zucchini in the skillet for him, but mostly I never really bother cooking for the dog.
joyyy at 1:37PM on 05/28/09
@db - I'd agree with you wholeheartedly if I'd found my dogs in the forest and brought them home. But at this point, considering that many breeds did not even exist in "nature", it's hard to tell what they'd eat naturally. I may be really mistaken here myself, but I do believe that dogs' immune systems may have changed over the years of being bred and cultivated as house pets, and their stomachs may not be as well adjusted to eating raw meat as their predecessors' were.
brooke29 at 1:54PM on 05/28/09
There was a slow cooker post a ways back and pooch posted what she makes for her doggies in the slow cooker. (Scroll down about 1/2 way to @dh posted by pooch. I tried the beef version and my pup was quite pleased. It's only for a very special treat though.
If I'm trying to give my golden a couple of pills, I hide them in a spoonful of cottage cheese and boy does she every swallow that right down.
dhorst at 2:19PM on 05/28/09
@brooke, we've been meddling with dog breeds a lot longer than commercial dog food has existed. I mean, canned food for people is a fairly recent invention and canned and processed dog foods came well after that. Yeah, our grandparents' dogs weren't really wild, but they weren't eating processed kibble, either.
I prefer not to eat processed foods except as the occasional treat, and that's pretty much how I feed my dogs. It's a personal choice though, and I've got to say that doling out a portion from the giant bag of kibble is about as easy as it gets. It's just not what I choose to do.
dbcurrie at 2:21PM on 05/28/09
My two dogs, a daschund-beagle mix named Noodle, and a Jack Russell named Olive, both have a thing for fruit. They each get an apple every night around 7:30. Olive enjoys dehydrated apple rings (the chewy ones, not the hard ones). In addition to apples, Noodle eats pears, mangoes, and bananas. A couple nights ago, they ate green peas, not just because each dog wanted them, but because they each wanted the other to not have the peas.
beth1 at 3:00PM on 05/28/09
@db - oh, but I was saying the same exact thing in my original reply upthread - I do not feed them commercial processed food, just like I don't eat processed food myself. But it also doesn't mean that I'll let them hunt the squirrels in our garden and eat those for dinner, even though their predecessors may have done just that. So I choose to cook their food for them, that's all. As I've said before, it doesn't take much of an effort, and I know exactly what goes into their food.
brooke29 at 3:04PM on 05/28/09
@beth1 - not just because each dog wanted them, but because they each wanted the other to not have the peas sounds very familiar:-)
brooke29 at 3:05PM on 05/28/09
@brooke, one of my dogs would dearly love for me to let her have the birds and squirrels she catches. Actually, she may have eaten a few that I didn't know about :-) And I still don't want to know.
I just think some people go a little too far into thinking that the pets are little people and should eat what we eat. There's a huge difference between preparing a heathy meal for Fido, and creating things that sound good to us, but aren't good for the dog. Like a woman I know who buys fast food burgers and chocolate ice cream cones for her dog on a regular basis.
I'm glad we agree :-)
dbcurrie at 3:21PM on 05/28/09
I don't cook for my pets (yet), but every time someone eats lasagna my one cat comes charging at you with her mouth wide open and her eyes flared. We started calling her Garfield. She doesn't do this with spaghetti or stuffed shells, only lasagna.
ag3208 at 3:28PM on 05/28/09
@db - yep, apparently we're on the same page:-). I'm definitely against feeding them "people" food or worse, table scrapes, especially considering that there is so much seemingly "harmless" stuff that may really hurt them.
Not that they would mind hunting squirrels, mind you:-)
brooke29 at 4:12PM on 05/28/09
So funny-- I was wondering the exact same thing a few days ago but realized that my two bunnies shouldn't really have sugar... or flour... or anything other than raw veggies and timothy hay. Doesn't make for exciting cooking. My extended family says I just need to have a child.
orangemiles at 4:44PM on 05/28/09
I bake dog biscuits for my dog (and his lucky friends). As for cooking specifically for him, I don't do that. He does get people food. I know, I know, it's bad. But he loves it and he's an 11 year old who can no longer have sex - what else is there but good food?
I had a friend who cooked for her dogs 2x/day every day. They lived very, very long, happy lives. She just got a new pup and swears she's not cooking for him. Let's see how long that lasts...
therealchiffonade at 5:16PM on 05/28/09
Cats are obligate carnivores. They do very well on diets with NO corn, gluten, potatoes or other carbs. Part of the reason so many are diabetic. Raw food, either commercial or homemade with all the right supplements is fantastic for them, as is canned with little to no carbs.
Bunnies are obligate herbivores (though some have been known to eat some meats...ew) and also don't need processed foods (esp. sugar)
Dogs are omnivores and do much better on mixed diets and can handle some of the flour and such we tend to put in dog treats but they still don't need much of it.
Under no circumstances have pets evolved past raw foods to "better" handle so much of the chemicals and non-pet foods we put in pet foods.
I applaud those of you who don't hand over the piles of scraps, feed them junk or treat them like people.
Cooked foods can be okay too, but also in the chemical-additive-poisonous veggie-free way that raw or decent quality canned food can be.
When I am not doing my day job for pay, I work with animals-and I get so tired of beating my head against the wall over the diabetic cat who gets all the cheap dry they want, or the obese dog that gets taken to Mc Donalds' every day as a "treat" because they want the dog to love them and eat what they do. Pets would live longer if they were given more species appropriate diets (just like us!)--which is what we want right? To have them be happy and healthy, live a good long time and not face food-related illnesses.
sadiepix at 5:26PM on 05/28/09
@Brooke, not only do my dogs want to hunt squirrels, but they're pretty good at hunting vegetables, too. Probably the funniest thing I ever saw was the day when I was hauling in food that I'd bought at the farmer's market. I left a bag of carrots at the gate while I brought the rest in the house. Bag stuffed full of carrots, tops on. When I came back for the carrots, the bag was still there, looking untouched. But each dog had extracted one carrot, and they were laying in the grass munching their prizes.
I think preparing food for your pets makes sense if you're keeping in mind what's good for them and not what looks good to you. For people who cook, it's pretty simple to figure out how to feed a pet. For people who live on fast food, the pets are better off with kibble.
dbcurrie at 5:53PM on 05/28/09
@dbcurrie - too cute!
joyyy at 6:06PM on 05/28/09
@dbcurrie--my in-laws had beagles who were notorious for raiding the garden for carrots and green beans.
Our golden loved grape tomatoes last year--not the foliage which can be poisonous to dogs--just the tomatoes. Every morning I'd check and say to myself, tomorrow these should be ready to pick--and I was blaming the birds and squirrels for their disappearance, (duh, we have three cats, so we're pretty much bird and rodent free). Then I saw our pup ever so carefully pluck the most ripe grape tomatoes off the vine right after I let her out to pee. I guess that was her idea of a morning appetizer. Needless to say the tomatoes and herbs she likes are on the front porch out of her reach, this year.
dhorst at 6:23PM on 05/28/09
@db - indeed it is pretty simple to figure out, but still, I've done some research and consulted my vet before deciding how and what I was going to use to make their food. I love them way too much to just trust my own instincts:-).
I love your carrot story! Mine love carrots too, but haven't stolen any yet:-). Although they do check out every bag of groceries that's brought into the house!
brooke29 at 6:27PM on 05/28/09
I do feed my dog kibble, but as she is a chihuahua she does best on a low-protein, high-fiber diet. Given people food, even low-calorie meat with fibrous vegetables and grains, she still gets extremely constipated and puts on weight. Even on high-premium dog food with a high protein content and a low fiber content she tends to get er, fluffy. I only give her human food as a treat, not as a mainstay.
However, every dog is different--what we call 'dogs' encompasses a huge array of weights, shapes, and metabolisms--due to quite a bit of interference with doggie genetics by humans over many years. Many working dogs really seem to flourish plain, high-quality 'human' protein to thrive.
For a rabbit, although you could make alfalfa treats--I have to say that most rabbits I have known seem to be happiest with veggies. My cousin's late rabbit especially loved lettuce.
HeartofGlass at 7:56PM on 05/28/09
I never thought of myself as "kinda obsessive" because I cook for those I love. I cook for my human family all the time and cook for my dogs and cook for my fur-kids (there I go being obsessive again) when (a) they're sick, (b) when it's a holiday or (c) when it's the year of the dog (haha). I also have friends who run a little side business baking doggy treats--I wonder what kind of sicko would do that?
But to answer the OP, I try to provide the best food that I can afford--that's not to say the most-expensive--just the best for them. I read lables on dog food and dog treats just like I read labels on the foods I eat. Granted, my Lab will eat practically anything that falls on the floor/ground/sidewalk--edamame pods, popsicle sticks, twigs, clumps of grass... We were planting our garden a couple of weeks ago and he started sniffing the zucchini plants and other squash plants and had streams of saliva dripping from his mouth, like he's sniffing a big ol' steak or something.
wookie at 8:05PM on 05/28/09
I seriously considered making food for my two cats, even bought a cookbook of sorts (Picarin????), but the recipes seemed to make tons of food, and I was afraid of spoilage. Now I just feed them Dick van Patten's food. And the occasional pizza crust for one (who doesn't eat it, he just likes to tear it up and leave it on my floor)
finewinendine at 8:24PM on 05/28/09
Cooked, raw, kibble, canned, it's all good if you're doing it with some thought as to the heath of the dog. The problem I see is when people cook for their dogs and they know it's bad. And I'm not talking about the occasional treat, I'm talking about people who do it every day. It's particularly appalling when there's something else that would make the dog just as happy and a whole lot healthier.
dbcurrie at 10:59PM on 05/28/09
Honestly, it's pretty much an obvious 'no brainer' not to feed your pets human junk food.
The concern some vets have about cooking for pets is that some people have trouble cooking a healthy diet for themselves, let alone an animal with different nutritional needs that can't articulate if it feels ill, in any way other than getting sick. However, if you're willing to do the extra work and your pet seems healthy and flourishes, of course that is a different thing entirely.
My first dog didn't do well on people food--she was very tiny, like my current dog, and had teeth problems without having something hard to chew on.
Dogs are, as some have observed above, omnivores, and can be healthy on many different diets, just like humans--and as with humans, the key is to fine tune to diet to the dog's specific needs. Dogs may need adjustments in diets over their lifespan as well, just like us!
HeartofGlass at 5:11AM on 05/29/09
i knew a lady that fried up bacon for her cat every morning. that cat is dead now.
seikel at 10:22AM on 05/29/09
I would love to cook for my rabbit! I resist, though, because of the sugar issues. We do buy him special "fancy" hay that's a mix of sweet meadow, timothy, and dried herbs, and he goes wild for that. I guess I'll have to settle for fancy hay, fresh salad, and the occasional TB of banana (his favorite) as a real treat.
littlestcapy at 11:00AM on 05/29/09
I'm a foster home for FL Dachshund Rescue and I started making homemade food for my pups and foster pups about a year ago. It's a seasonal blend of veggies and human grade meats cooked together, mixed with brown rice. The transformation in them has been amazing. They have better skin & coat and more energy. When the foster dogs come in, if they are under-weight, they put on weight faster. If they are overweight they lose it faster. Yeah, sure, it's a little more time and effort. But it really is worth it.
MystTeree at 1:21PM on 05/29/09
What the bagel is wrong with all of us?
My dog eats a scientific diet, and seems to be fine.
bagel at 1:31PM on 05/29/09
I'm an avid doggie and kitty lover and after years of feeding raw I every now and again splurge and make them "meatcakes"; blend up some lovely organs (save those bits in your chicken when you make stock!), stick 'em in a silicone muffin pan, freeze and voila! A perfect summer treat. So, no cooking - but great for our furry ones nonetheless.
tendertron at 2:59PM on 05/29/09
My cat is pretty happy with dry food, but she loves to "taste" whatever I happen to be eating. She gets an occasional bite of junk food, but she only gets a morsel the size of a pea. She digs french fries, and I no longer eat hot pockets, because she would be all over me.
She also likes healthier foods. Normal cat things like chicken, tuna and cheese. But also totally non-cat things like clementines and bananas.
And if it matters, she is nearly 12 years old and weighs 7lb. She is full of energy and no one, not even the vet, can believe that she's a day over 2.
I guess different animals, like people, have different nutritional needs.
Kerosena at 3:10PM on 05/29/09
I began cooking for my two dogs (Italian Greyhounds) because I was tired of taking them to the vets for stomach problems. Every time we went to the vet they would get put on a "bland diet" and they would be fine until we'd start mixing kibble back in to the food. We'd add two more kibbles per meal and every time we'd get close to a quarter cup, someone would get sick again. (Tried different brands). I continue cooking for them because it has become so easy for us, and they have really thrived on it.
Their meals consist of baked or boiled chicken which is then chopped up quickly in the food processor and mixed with boiled rice. We mix in canned pumpkin and / or boiled sweet potatoes for extra vitamins and because pumpkin helps keeps dogs "regular".
We have a vitamin supplement and cod liver oil from the vet that gets added sometimes too. And if the dogs start eating grass outside we give them some sprouts.
We cook enough with each batch that we only have to cook twice a week for them. The whole process takes 30 minutes, but that is including the 20 minutes of waiting for the rice and chicken to cook.
Our younger dog takes vegetables as treats, the older just holds out hope someone will drop some cheese.
amycasey at 3:43PM on 05/29/09
My Bryan always gets a burger when i make them. BTW Bryan is my dog not my husband.
chardonnay at 4:01PM on 05/29/09
I had the Dr. Pitcairn book recommended to me by a friend, whose dog had stomach trouble, and for some unknown reason, I started making my own dog food from that book. It's not too complicated - once a week, I make a big batch of "gruel" - oatmeal, mackerel, carrots, garlic, olive oil and Dr. Pitcarin's "healthy powder".
Whenever they visit the vet, the vet always comments on how healthy they are and tells us to keep up the good work. Gert is 11 and still very athletic, Sally, who we adopted as a starveling stray, has filled in quite nicely. So I would recommend it, if you are at all interested!
sarajane at 4:11PM on 05/29/09
@brooke--tonight they ate steamed broccoli for the same reason. Now it's becoming somewhat of a betting sport here to see what they'll eat just to keep the other from getting it.
beth1 at 12:48AM on 05/30/09
@beth1 - well, judging by the two of mine - pretty much anything! :-)
brooke29 at 2:28AM on 05/30/09
I make brown rice, mix in some frozen mixed vegies, and a can of salmon. I supplement their kibble with some of this mixture daily. Their fur is so soft and silky. My Bull Mastiff was allergic to proteins so she ate vegetarian food. She loved all kinds of vegetables and fruit. One Halloween she wanted the pumpkin pulp we were carving. She loved to devoure watermelon rinds, carrots, and tomatoes off the vine.
DELICIOUS at 11:02AM on 05/30/09
I had two rabbits at one time. Never cooked for them, but one of their favorite treats was the clover flowers which grow all over my lawn in the summer.
dmcavanagh at 11:25AM on 05/30/09
my cat likes raw foods. the only thing i cook for him is salmon. which is to say if you grill a salmon steak the center is mildly under-done and after checking it for bones, i will offer him bits.
blizcheetah at 9:33PM on 05/31/09
I have been reading a lot of information about the BARF diet for dogs (Bones and Raw Foods). Animals would not normally consume cooked foods in their natural habitat, and generally do very well when introduced to a raw food diet, including raw turkey necks, wings, gizzards, livers, and raw veggies as well. Keeping starches and carbs out of their diet is best to cut down on bloating and gas issues.
juliebugsmama at 2:45PM on 06/01/09
I'm owned by 3 cats, two Maine Coon mixes and a pure-bred Sphynx. One of my Maine Coons will rarely touch anything but cat food. The other craves meat. A few times a week I'll chop up raw beef for him and he devours it. The Sphynx will eat anything that isn't nailed down.
I haven't tried to make home-made cat treats yet - but I might. I am a crazy cat lady and enjoy giving the kittehs treats. I'm not against bribery to get them to do what I want. ;)
AmazonGoddess at 9:24AM on 06/02/09