Subway or Quizno's?
me and my wife are planning on buy a franchise from either subway or quiznos.....what do you guys think?? thanks
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32 Comments:
They both seem to be going strong, but I'm no business speculator. I do remember several years ago when Quizno's had napkins that said something like "Heat expands. That's why Quizno's is the fastest growing sandwich business." It was pretty helpful for remembering general principles in the physical sciences.
runnereater at 11:39AM on 03/05/09
Maybe I'm not a representative customer, but to my tastes both make pretty bad sandwiches, and I avoid them. Subway bread may be fresh-baked, but it's way too pillowy soft to be what I would call sandwich bread. A good hoagie/hero/submarine/grinder loaf should have a slightly crunchy crust with a slightly chewy interior ("crumb"). I have not found a national franchise that has good bread, and bread is the backbone of any sandwich, as Subway ironically likes to point out with their bread baked on premises.
If you want to run a sandwich operation, my recommendation would be to find a source of top-notch bread and set it up yourself.
Lorenzo at 11:47AM on 03/05/09
I would check out the industry sites for it, like Brandweek.com and qsrmag.com. They usually have some pretty good information on each of them, like their corporate policies for franchsisees and other economic stability information (i.e. do people like that chain and why? what types of meno innovations are keeping them at the top of their game? how are they faring against their competition?). My father actually is a financial consultant for people who are looking to open their own franchises, so I could probably also ask him. However, that all being said, you really have to do your homework, and know the territory, and whether a particular area can support another one of those two. They are rather prolific, and it might be better to focus on a chain that is less well represented. Have you looked at other chains at all?
Traveller at 11:49AM on 03/05/09
Just Fyi check out the following link for what's it's worth. Looks like Subway is the safer bet. Congratulations on being your own boss.
http://www.bluemaumau.org/6776/25_worst_franchises_buy
smokey07 at 11:51AM on 03/05/09
IMHO, I would eat at Quizno's any day of the week over Subway. I will not eat at Subway...doughball bread, yuck. That said, I have not tried their oven sandwiches, and that is what I like about Quizno's.
Karencooks at 12:00PM on 03/05/09
I agree with @Lorenzo. A sandwich shop with really good breads and fresh top of the line ingredients and good coffee can't loose. The best here in Albuquerque are "Relish", and "The Grove Cafe" locally owned and run. The sides potato salad, mac salad, greens, etc. made on the premises daily. No franchise fees and limitations. And they are both very successful. Good luck in whatever you choose to do!
elaine nan at 12:10PM on 03/05/09
My parents have friends who opened a Subway about 10 years ago. They now have 5 stores, 3 kids in college, and a very comfortable home. I don't know if the poor economy has affected their business, but on the other hand, even my dad thinks their $5 footlong is a great deal.
wookie at 12:12PM on 03/05/09
$5 footlong is amazing and look at Jarred. I would go with Subay just for those two things alone.
ChefJeffSD at 12:27PM on 03/05/09
Foodwise, I prefer Quiznos, but they got a lot of bad press a few years back for being horrible to franchise owners. I don't know if they've improved, but it used to be nearly impossible to succeed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/24/business/24quiznos.html
popcornfordinner at 12:36PM on 03/05/09
I'm a huge Subway fan. I go there at least once a week (for my turkey daily special on Wednesdays - $2.95 after tax) if not more. That would be my pick but in all honesty, I haven't been to Quizno's in years...
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Chew on That at 12:56PM on 03/05/09
I hate to give any one financial advise, as a lot of things unique to your individual circumstances should go into your decision process. I have looked into this in the past and have known a few franchisees of said businesses. I would eat at either in a pinch, but if buying one I would say Subway. Subway has been one of the fastest growing (worldwide) and the number one rated franchises (quizno's is quite a bit further down the list) which equals good branding and marketing support and programs for the franchisee. Plus I am not a huge fan of some of Quizno's business practices, one of them being their strong resistance to releasing calorie counts of their food items (they finally gave in last year) and for good reason. they're sandwiches are packed with calories. e.g. large vegi sandwich is over 1000 calories!
GrimChef at 1:09PM on 03/05/09
If I remember correctly Subway was getting bad press for its franchising practices as well. They were opening stores so close to each other that the franchise owners could not make a decent profit.
bobbob at 1:16PM on 03/05/09
thanks guys. were only in the beginning stages obviously, but ur advice is welcomed! im thinking subway, even though i would rather eat at quiznos...actually id rather have a nice sandwich from a specialty shop but yea
icelandadam at 1:20PM on 03/05/09
I've seen real horror stories about Quiznos corporate vis a vis their franchisees recently with that free sandwich promotion debacle they just had.
negativetouch at 2:13PM on 03/05/09
Good afternoon! My name is Matthew Sweeney, and I manage the partnership between ADP & IPC(Subway's purchasing company), and I was hoping you could get me in contact with the owner referenced above. Please shoot me and email, or give me a call if you can help me. Thanks again! matthew_sweeney@adp.com (866) 861-9343 ext.6754
Cane98 at 2:35PM on 03/05/09
I don't know about Subway -- but I heard that Quizno corporate was very demanding and made it hard to succeed. Franchisees had to buy everything from corporate (even cleaning supplies that the customers would not see) and that cut into profits because you could buy many of these items cheaper on your own.
Bethae at 2:36PM on 03/05/09
I'm with Lorenzo. I either make my own, or get a specialty sandwich from my local grocer.
Didn't a customer find a knife baked into their Subway bread once?
Maybe that will help you in your decision lLOLl
@smokey - good link, thanks!
hungrychristel at 2:39PM on 03/05/09
I think between subway and quiznos I would pick subway... They seem more stable than quiznos. But maybe I think that because I hate the quizno commercials. Have you considered other franchises? like Panera Bread? It also probably makes a difference where in the world your located.
jlweber at 2:51PM on 03/05/09
When I was in hotel school, I remember more than one professor bringing up Subway as the best franchise restaurant, especially for first-timers. If you don't have alot of capital, its a good choice because their start-up costs are some of the lowest in the business. Although I prefer Quizno's subs, I'd say go with Subway. Make sure to get a non-competition clause in your franchise agreement so you don't get a Subway down the block competing with you.
Embackus at 3:21PM on 03/05/09
It seems like the comments above cover this fairly well... but... I worked at a Quizno's for two years while in college. My boss was ALWAYS ranting about the corporate practices and profit margins. While I imagine that the same sorts of things happen with Subway, I have heard that they are more profitable.
pumpkinfiend at 6:08PM on 03/05/09
I don't like either, but just to add another point to the other excellent things to think of mentioned--what chain is more prevalent in your area? I can't imagine my area, especially in this economy, supporting another Subway or Quiznos.
HeartofGlass at 7:22PM on 03/05/09
If I was forced, dragged kicking and screaming, I'd do Quiznos. From a business prospective figure out what are the best points of each and start your own legend. Start with the best bread and come up with some awesome combos. Then you can start to sweat over the location and plan the advertising yada yada yada. Good luck!
thegoch at 7:34PM on 03/05/09
I think you should see a franchise attorney and see how much the franchise fee is and how much you have to cough up and look at the economy tanking and decide how long you want to work for yourself you build a business. Wild horses could not drag me into a new business enterprise in this economy. Ask the attorney.
JerzeeTomato at 7:39PM on 03/05/09
Have you ever heard of Jason's Deli? It's a chain out of Texas, I believe, but I became familiar with it when we were living in NC. It's more traditional deli-style sandwiches (it can be hard to get a Reuben or a corned beef pastrami, etc. in a lot of areas not in the northeast), 1 lb. topped baked potatoes, salad bar, pasta.... The portions are enormous, the price is decent, and the quality was better than Subway or Quiznos.
Anyhow, I know someone who looked into franchising it, and besides being pricier than many chains they are quite strict with regions of the country they will open in, but still, it might be worth looking into.
blueskies3 at 9:23PM on 03/05/09
I work at a subway that is right next to a Jason's! They havent officially opened yet but I got to eat there at a previewing. The food was great...
Subway is not a bad company to work for though. This is the second store have worked for and I enjoy it there.
mayoxqueen at 10:53PM on 03/05/09
Neither. Gimme Firehouse Subs anyday! nom nom nom New York Steamer!
caramel at 11:03PM on 03/05/09
I just went to Subways last night. I have had food there many times. They always tasted fresh and the deals are great. I never have eaten at Quizno's before so I don't know what they are like. Another place that makes really good sandwiches and the bread is also made on the premises is Jimmy John's, I don't know if they have that franchise where you live, but talk about yummy.
pjracz10 at 11:49PM on 03/05/09
I'm not a real fan of either. I really like Submarina, a California sub chain, and a tiny mom-n-pop place around the corner from home. The Quiznos near my house closed because of the economy.
beth1 at 12:16AM on 03/06/09
Neither makes a good sandwich. I only visit the locally owned establishments that use bread baked at a local, artisan bakery. I always use locally owned retailers (unless I have no choice). I think more people are becoming more mindful of where they spend their money. I think there will be a greater push to spend money in locally owned establishments rather than give it to "the man". Helping the economy starts at home.
Barbieri13 at 10:17AM on 03/06/09
Please don't. There are too many of them already. Rather, open up your own place...a good homemade sub shop is SO MUCH BETTER, and especially if you are in an area where they are few and far between (like down here in Atlanta) we Northerners would frequent your place much more than a yucky chain place.
juliebugsmama at 10:31AM on 03/06/09
if your in a college town or somewhere with a lot of vegetarians on a budget i'd definitely stay away from quizno's. besides being more expensive across the board they are awful with their pricing of the few veg options they have. also, i'd boycott them just for using the expession "sammies".
sloppy at 1:07PM on 03/06/09
I suggest buying either and doing what you can to make the franchise your own. If I owned a subway/quiznos, id use better meats and ingredients. Make up sandwiches with local names too. However, I;m sure quiz/sub have strict rules from doing just that.
Good luck.
Open a local deli instead.
Juman23 at 2:42PM on 03/06/09