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Serious Efforts: Whole Deer Neck

I am going to receive a whole deer neck via FedEx tomorrow. It has been skinned and frozen solid, but is otherwise pretty much intact. I would like some advice from anyone here experienced with taking deer apart.

I would like to remove the muscles from each other and from the bone in as large and unmolested pieces as possible.

- What things should I look out for or avoid?

- Any glands or other organs I should make sure to remove?

- Is there anything I should be careful not to puncture that might taint the meat?

- Is there any tasty offal in there I should keep, such as the sweetbreads?

- Anything else I haven't asked about that is important to know???

I plan on consulting some books and websites on the matter, but was hoping I could get some pointers from the community.

Thank you!

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I gotta ask, why are you getting a deer neck?

A friend had one to spare, and it seems like there's a lot of tasty stuff to be done with one.

i didn't know a neck had so much in it.

The one I'm expecting weighs about 16 pounds. I've got my work cut out for me (pun semi intended :) )

How does one ship a deer neck by Fed Ex.. praytell? Do you go up to the counter in your Bubba hat & say:
"hey I've got here a 16 pound hunk O"deer neck- can we wrap this baby up in somethin that don't leak and git all over...and make it froze so my buddy in NYC can break it down and act like a redneck?"


(P.S. I'm not bustin' on ya Simon- I admire your fortitude. I live in Colorado and am often curious how all those big game hunters get their carcases shipped home to them.)

@Bisbee -- Two words: Arapaho Packing. They do a lot of game meats, and I suspect that once it's cut and frozen solid, you just pack it in styrofoam coolers with some dry ice, and ship next-day air. There are probably other places, but if I'm not mistaken about where you are, Arapaho is probably the closest, should you find a warm deer on the roadside :-) I've been there when people have pulled up with a deer strapped to the top of the car or an elk in the back of the pickup.

That's the place where I pick up lambs from a lady I buy from in Lyons, and I've seen cows in a pen, so they do domestic meats there as well.

@Simon, I've never cut up a deer neck, but with sharp knife and some patience, it's not to difficult to follow along the muscles in a cut of meat and separate it cleanly. As far as the innards...have fun with that.

@Bisbee - like I said, it's frozen solid. It's being sent overnight in a cooler. It will still be hard as a rock when I get it in the morning. Which brings up another issue, defrosting it...

@dbcurrie - yeah, the innards are what I'm most curious about. And I've since learned that there is such thing as Venison Sweetbreads, so i will be keeping an eye for them.

I wonder where all the hunters are. There used to be some people who posted here pretty regularly about how much hunted meat they ate...

Not to burst your bubble, but if you're getting a 16 pound neck it's probably from a fairly mature deer, and its sweetbreads (thymus) are likely to be shrunken or nonexistant- the thymus begins to shrink pretty quickly after puberty begins. If you do think you see one, it's good if it's grayish-pink rather than yellow- more yellow means more fat deposits and an older animal.
I'm not an expert on deer anatomy per se, but I would also expect to find some lymphatic vessels in any mammal's neck, and they're not particularly good to eat. I would also expect that muscles analogous to our sternocleidomastoid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sternocleidomastoid would be well developed in a ruminant, and deer tend to be lean to begin with. If I were you, I'd be thinking of making a nice, enriched, slow braised ragu.

If I've got my hands on a deer neck -- particularly an older one -- I'm not thinking sweetbreads at all.

I'm thinking venison chili.

The best chili, IMHO, is made with tougher cuts (think "exercised"), cut into smallish cubes (maybe 1/4 to 1/3 inch) and simmered for a long time with the best chili blend, some great broth, and perhaps some onion and garlic.

Hank Shaw, who posted here as Hunter Angler Gardener Cook, would be the person I'd consult if I were waiting for a deer neck.
http://www.honest-food.net/blog1/about/

Oh, I just had to pick one of these apart not long ago.
What little advice I can give?
1. Use cheap knives. With the vertebrae, expect to bend one. About four vertebrae (with meat around the bone) make a very tasty meat and veggie soup.
2. I hope you're done pick, pick, picking at the neck. It is some of the most tender meat if it's cooked right, but you do have to get all of the little connective tissues out of there.
I have divided my neck into two parcels - vertebrae with meat surrounding, this makes wonderful stew meat.
The other parcel has gone through my meat grinder, at a finer grind, and has gone into chili, burgers, meatloaf, you name it. Once you get used to the flavor, it can be used just the same as any other ground meat.
I wish you luck, may you process and prepare your venison well.

Thanks guys!!! This is exactly the type of advice I was hoping for. It's sitting right here next to me at my desk. Tomorrow will be the big day. And yes, I'm pretty sure it's from a mature animal. I guess the sweetbreads will be out of the equation. But older animals tend to make for tastier meat, so I'm looking forward to that. Thanks again!

Sorry I couldn't be of help on this subject, but would love to read about how it works out!

If the neck is really large, you can cut it in half with a meat saw (looks like a large hacksaw).

Cut off all exposed fat. Rinse it well, paying attention of any veiny spots. Soak it overnight in lightly salted water (this helps draw out excess blood).
You want to be able to taste the salt in the water, but it shouldn't be as salty as a brine. Just lightly salty. Change water after several hours if it's particularly bloody.
These two steps (remove fat, soak in salted water) are important. Do not skip. The fat is what gives off the gamely taste. Drawing excess blood imrpoves the flavor.

Neck makes great stock and soup meat. Place the neck in a large pot, cover with cold water. Add small maount of salt or beef boullion, a couple of bay leaves, 5-10 pepper corns, 2-3 cloves garlic, a trimmed onion-cut in half, a scrubbed-trimmed carrot or two and celery stalk. You could add other herbs/spices if you wish. Add a few dashes of soy or worchetershire sauce to up the flavor if desired.. You can also add a teaspoon or two of red wine vinegar or a cup of red wine to stock liquid (acid helps tenderize).

Bring to a boil. Skim stock. Reduce heat, cover and simmer for 3 to 4 hours. (If using a slow cooker, cook on high for two hours, reduce to low for total of 8-10 hours.)

Remove from heat and let meat cool in the liquid. Refrigerate overnight.

Skim hardened fat from the surface and discard. Pull or cut meat from neck bones. Pour stock through through a sieve to remove vegetables and spices. Use as you would use beef stock.

Venison Vegetable Soup
Sautee onion, carrots and celery. Add a can of diced tomatoes, frozen mixed vegetables (or some green beans, corn, pease, etc.), stock, maybe some sliced cabbage or rutabaga. Add a handful of barley, a dash of Worchestershire, whatever seasonigs you'd like. When vegetables are tender, add cooked meat to the pot.

Ok, since someone called out "Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!" I have been drawn to this site...Deer neck, eh? Odd one, this. If you are a good boner (couldn't resist), you could remove the vertebrae the way you debone a lamb's leg. Save the bones for stock with lots of aromatics (rosemary and juniper are a must).

As for the neck, make a stuffing. I'd suggest lots and lots of mushrooms, herbs, and various onion-y things (garlic, leeks, onions, etc), and maybe some pine nuts or chestnuts tossed in. Smear onto one side of neck meat and then tie and roll like a roulade. Smear outside with bacon fat (OK, you can use salt and olive oil) and roast at 250 degrees for about 4-5 hours, then put a hate on the thing at 450 degrees for a final 15 minutes or so to get a nice crust.

If you are not such a good boner (again, couldn't resist), make stew meat out of it or use it for sausage or a venison sugo. If you are feeling especially unadventurous, use it for chili.

At any rate, that's my $0.02.

~ Hank

Thank you both. Cooking advice is always welcome, but my biggest concern is with the butchering aspects, removing the nasty bits etc. It did occur to me that butterflying it would probably be the way to go. I do still have to remove the esophagus and other stuff. It's still defrosting. Tomorrow should be the big day...

Hi Simon!

My father always butchered the neck of the deer but I can't say the mechanics of it. The only additional tip I have is ensuring you season your game with good herbs! Use strong aromatics like rosemary and coarse black pepper.

I personally love to make a stew or a stuffing with game (like hunteranglergardenercook says) and it would be a great opportunity to utilize some wild mushrooms if you have them. Good luck!

If you want to make certain that you clear away various glands and lymph nodes, taking the neck apart muscle by muscle, as you've planned, is definitely the way to go, since those smaller structure are not easy to see (they're often surrounded by fat/connective tissue). Treat it like a dissection: traction towards you the muscle you're taking off at the moment, and cut the connective tissue where you see it, stretched between the muscle you taking off and the rest of the neck.
Clear away lumps of fat and bundles of connective tissue as you come across them. A small sharp knife is most efficient, since it is more agile, and you can see what you're doing; doing this in full daylight (if your schedule permits) makes the job much easier, too. Any small grayish object should probably go; they're most often lymph nodes, of which there are quite a few in the neck.

Simon I hope you give us an update when you've finished. I've never taken a neck apart, we usually field dress and take it to a processor. Cant wait to hear about your experience.

So, any news there Simon?

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