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How much salt is too much salt?

I've noticed recently that when I see Food Network chefs seasoning their food, they routinely use an amount of salt that looks really extreme to me--every millimeter of a dish covered. I know that salting is a matter of personal taste, but the dishes they prepare would turn me into a raisin in no time. Have others noticed this, or am I being salt-phobic? (For the record, I do not consciously avoid salt for health reasons or anything.) And if it's not just me, what are these guys up to?

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Some of them seem insane to me, for sure. Properly salted is one thing, but oversalted is just unpleasant.

When it comes to salting something like the exterior of a large chunk of meat, a little salt can look like a lot more than it is. And a good bit of that ends up left behind in the pan, or adhered to the fatty part of the meat that most people aren't going to eat. So that's not too frightening to me. That much salt on a burger or little piece of chicken is another thing.

Generously salting pasta or veggie water does make a difference, and most of that goes down the drain, so it's not like you're eating all of what goes in there.

But yeah, I've seen a few where I cringe. Too much salt, and I can feel it burning my tongue. I can imagine some of those dishes where I'd have that reaction.

On the other hand, I think a lot of that seasoning is just for show. Artsy camera angles of flying salt, or the pretty sparkly crystals on top of the dish. I use my own judgement when it comes to things like salt and pepper.

I have noticed that it looks like alot sometimes, but alot of times they are using high quality delicate salt like sea salt. Also, you really can't say if it's too much unless you taste it.

even though it is a matter of personal taste, there is a proper way to season. salt is meant to accentuate the natural flavors already present, not make the food taste like salt. I cant stand it when my mom cooks something delicious, and then goes overkill with salt.

I think alot of it is for show too. After all, they're grabbing it out of little ramekin/dishes (who does that?) and sprinkling it on in a decorative way, instead of pouring it out of the box/can into their palm to measure like normal people do.

@Embackus, I actually keep a little cup of kosher salt next to my pepper grinder on my stove. I literally salt things like that, is that weird? I had no idea!

I actually started storing my salt that way after seeing it on FN. I keep it right next to my bottle of olive oil and garlic holder thingy in a sugar dish that matches my plates.

When you think it is too "salty"

@Pumpkin & Pesto, I'm eating my words. I still think its a little weird since I've never seen anyone cook like this in the flesh. I do think it could be quite handy, except that I'm a pretty messy cook and the dish would be infiltrated with wierd crumbs and bits of food within a day or two.

@embakus/pumpkinbear - I keep a salt cellar of kosher salt on my counter. Who knew I salted like the big shots? I've always done that. I can't imagine pouring it out on a regular basis. I keep regular sea salt in its original container and I hate using it by pouring. It feels weird. It seems wrong somehow.

I love salt, but yeah, some of the stuff I see on the shows is just ridiculous. I think maybe sometimes the amount is just for show because visually it looks better, but maybe not, because I've tried some recipes off their website, and some of them are just way too salty.

And this comes from a person who loves feta cheese, olives and capers.

Kosher salt is not as fine as the salt shaker variety. It also has a different taste. It also might look like a larger quantity on tv, when it is flying through the air. I keep mine in a small bowl next to the pepper and oil and such. It is just easier to add and control. If you do not use kosher salt...or sea salt, give it a try. You will notice a difference.

The only way to know if the food is over salted would be to taste it. As someone else pointed out different salts = different results.

I love my new olivewood salt cellar. It really makes using kosher salt a lot easier. I never use iodized anymore; I can detect the off flavor of it now that I'm used to kosher.

you know you've really oversalted something when you tongue starts to swell!!!!

those open containers that hold salt so you can grab it with your fingers are called "salt pigs."

There is never too much salt.

I have an Emile Henry salt pig. Once you start using one you will learn how much to grab. Kosher salt is flaked rather than crystals. Restaurant food is highly salted. Salt is a cheap ingredient. That is why its the one they use the most.

Besides the amount of salt (which I always mentally adjust to my taste, anyway) what irks me are the ones who take the salt, sprinkle it on whatever and just throw the rest on the floor or over the shoulder or at the camera or whatever.

Sorry, but I don't have brigades of cleanup people, and neither do most people who watch these shows. If a chef/cook is pretending to be in a home kitchen, all alone, it's just stupid to be throwing salt all over the place.

I love salt! I have a bowl next to my stove, not a salt pig, I have animals in the house and dont like anything open, but something very similar to the salt bowl Alton Brownuses. I watched Anne Burell the other day for the first time in a long time, and I noticed the amount of salt she used. To me it was way too much, I wonder if she's so used to seasoning large batches of food that she's over salting the smaller batches of demo food she's preparing.

@Embackus ~ Normal? Normal is a cycle on the washing machine.

@ Embackus....ditto Iz. Normal people measure it in their palm? Say what, homie? I suppose you use that round blue cylinder with the creepy girl dancing around in the rain, dontcha?

Kosher. Dish. Counter. Dun dun dun....

Yah I use a small kitten shaped soy sauce dish to hold a small amount of salt on the counter. I usually go through it fast enough to keep crumbs out. Also I find it is easier to evenly salt things by grabbing a pinch of salt between the fingertips and rubbing the fingers together as I pass my hand over food.

I figure I waste less salt this way too :p

@emkats

I also keep a salt in a little wooden box next to my stove. The amount they use doesn't seem excessive to me - that's how much you use in a restaurant, and you sprinkle it on exactly in that manner. Holding it high to sprinkle helps make sure that it coats the food evenly as opposed to dropping it from closer to the food where it ends up in little patches.

I find that one of the biggest hurdles for home cooks (and for restaurant cooks who are just starting out) is properly seasoning food. It's a matter of personal taste, but you have to remember to actually taste it before you serve it!

I read yesterday that the amount of salt in a teaspoon of salt is a bit more than the daily allowance for an adult. It is a giant wake up call for me, because I am salt user - I HATE going to restaurants that don't have a salt cellar on the table. I have been to numerous places for dinner in my life and honestly, if I was wearing a blindfold, I would not know what I was eating - there is an abhorrence of using salt in many homes, people shy away from it for both cooking and using at the table. To me, just a sprinkle would liven up many a meal and I think most good chefs agree. That being said, I am very aware that I do have to cut my salt intake, but seriously, I can't think of anything more unpleasant - well, except for dying of a stroke or heart attack, I guess!

Salt is one of those things that's dictated by taste sensitivities - that's why it's often called for "to taste."

Anne Burrell = TONS of salt. She cooks like a restaurant chef because she is one and people eat at restaurants because the food tastes good. They ask, "Why doesn't this taste the same when I make it at home?" Perhaps it's the steamshovel full of salt you're not putting in at home.

Ina Garten = Gets accused of using too much salt but I don't think so. She seasons in layers but I don't think she uses extreme amounts of salt. Whenever she puts what might be construed as a large amount of salt into food, she qualifies it with "this may seem like a lot of salt but it makes a big batch..."

Processed Foods like canned soups, chips, etc. = Critical mass amounts of salt. This is salt to the "nth" degree. If you grew up on this type of food, you will require IMMENSE amounts of added salt because your palate will only accept mega-salted foods as "correct." Lightly seasoned food won't even register.

I salt my food when I cook it and never, ever offer salt at the table. Period.

When experts advise a low-sodium diet, I believe it's less about seasoning food while it's being cooked vs. shaking on another tablespoon when it's on the plate; plus a habit of chips, etc. There are instances where people (individuals) have such a sensitivity to salt that it blows blood pressure off the charts. These people probably need to avoid salt altogether for medical reasons. (Hopefully they will be able to train their palates with salt-free food or they are sentenced to a life of utter blandness.)

I had a friend who used to salt EVERYTHING. Hot dogs, even McDonald's fries hot out of the grease (where they're salted before they're bagged). THAT's undeniably too much salt.

@Chelley, Harsh! I use kosher too, but I keep it in the box, for the aforementioned cleanliness reasons. Sorry to generalize or offend anyone with my use of the word normal, this is just based on the observation of every person I ever cooked with, both in home and professional kitchens. If the pig/dish salt thing works for you, great. I just think its another unneccesary dish on the counter, when you could just keep the box near the stove and pour out what you need. I realize this is a complete tangent from the original thread, but I had to defend myself.

Something like 80% of the salt in an average person's diet comes from everywhere except what they add themselves, either in their own cooking or from salting at the table. A small amount comes from naturally occurring salts, but the majority comes from processed and packaged foods and fast food meals.

Seems to me that if you eliminate those packaged and fast foods and use fresh ingredients, you can salt like mad in your cooking, and still be in the safe zone as far as salt consumption.

Just out of interest, I would love to know how many SE members use a teaspoon of salt in the water to cook their vegetables, or sprinkle meat with salt before roasting or grilling? If you are in the habit of doing this, do you sprinkle salt at the table, after tasting or is the food salty enough from the addition at cooking time. Are there many people who do not use salt at all in cooking?

I always use a bit of salt to cook the family meal, but I am wondering if I should cook without salt and then season before consumption (or let people season their own food at the table?) Sorry to belabour this, but I would seriously like your input. Thanks.

@dbcurrie - that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

@bareneed - I use more like a tbsp of salt in veggie/pasta water, and definitely salt meat well well before cooking. I got that habit from Suzanne Goin's Sunday Supper at Lucques, and pre-salting meat makes a huge difference. IMHO salting at the table alone does not allow food flavors to marry the salt and become their best. Food seasoned after cooking tastes of nothing but salt and blandness at the same time. Salt well during cooking and skip it at the table.

I don't boil veggies but I do salt the water when I steam veggies.

I throw literally a palmful of salt into my macaroni water.

Every pro-chef will tell you that the difference between restaurant food and home-cooked food is the amount of salt&pepper used.

@bessfour .... and butter.

The last few times I have eaten a tasting menu in one of the noted restaurants in the DC area -- VOLT and Minibar -- I have been repulsed by the amount of salt that some of the items contained. I saw Jose Andre from Minibar and one of the up and comers in the chef world on a PBS show reccently cooking paella and he said to salt it "until it is just oversalted" to which I yelled at the television WHY? Are they in cahoots with heart surgeons? Do customers tell them to throw more salt in? Do they find that their bar revenues go up when the customers are oversalted? It's an unhealthy trend and I was shocked to see Chef Andre acknowledge and even promote it.

Salt is getting a bad rap:
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/11/good-bad-salt-debate-gets-hearing-at.html

“The absence of a relationship between salt intake and mortality in our study corroborates the findings from the large Scottish Heart Health Study among almost 12,000 middle-aged subjects with 24-h urine samples,” they wrote. Also, “follow-up data of the MRFIT trial neither showed a relationship between dietary sodium intake estimated by 24-h recall and cardiovascular events or mortality.”

They concluded: “The effect of sodium and potassium intake on CVD morbidity and mortality in Western societies remains to be established.”

In fact, while there have been more than 17,000 studies published on salt and blood pressure since 1966, none has shown population-wide health benefits from low-sodium diets, only some select subgroups of people appear to respond. According to Dr. David Klurfeld, Ph.D., professor and chairman of the Department of Nutrition and Food Science at Wayne State University, editor-in-chief of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, “the better controlled studies fail to show a significant benefit on blood pressure for large groups with sodium restriction.”

@bareneed, I use salt when I cook. I also have a salt shaker at the table, if anyone wants more, but it's hardly ever used. I find that if you salt properly during cooking the food tastes like itself, but heightened. If you dump salt on at the table, it just tastes salty.

I've known a few people who refuse to use salt when cooking, and no amount of salt at the table can make that food taste right.

I have an Alton Brown "Sodium Chloride Containment Unit" a.k.a. salt cellar, with a nifty little flip-top lid, so I can sprinkle my kosher salt. I don't know how I ever got along without it.

Sometimes I think the amount of salt used on food TV looks excessive, so I use less when I reproduce the dish, and it ends up not being enough. Hard to say unless you taste it.

i can imagine using a sugar container for salt. i don't. but i could see it being ok. i pour it into my hands or our measuring spoons. i have mortons (the one with the dancing umbrella girl), and 2 different kosher salts (curiosity got the better of me - they are the same weight, but massively different sized boxes, yet somehow the one with smaller crystals has the larger box).

of course, most of the time on those cooking competition shows they are told they didnt use enough salt... its reached the point that i think particular chefs have been pickled and cant handle a meal sans salt, even if it should not have any.

i often forget to salt things. i may add a tsp to something i'm baking/cooking...but it usually consists of five portions or more. so i don't think i get a lot. other than that i never add salt to my dish after it's 'finished'.


i do add pepper though. i love pepper.

Knowing how to correctly season food makes the difference between a good cook and a great cook. I have noticed my DIL's are very timid when adding salt, while I am more assertive. They say my food always tastes so good. It is great the TV chefs to show how to season food in layers as the dish is assembled, and then taste as you go. Seasoning foods correctly also requires the knowledge of when to hold back. When you cook regular white rice, salt is required. When you make risotto, you have to be cautious with the salt and consider the butter and broth you are using and the cheese you add at the end all contain salt, so you need to hold back the salt with a dish like this. If the chef fixing risotto is using homemade broth, which could be less salty than canned broth, then extra salt may be required for the risotto. It is important to know the salt content in the ingredients you are using. When I make bean with ham soup, the ham usually adds enough salt. Here is an explanation on the superstition of throwing salt over your left shoulder.
http://ask.yahoo.com/20031006.html

The kosher salt that most chefs use on TV as a larger crystal than table salt. It reflects more of the studio light and therefore looks like a large quantity. Your best bet is to constantly taste your food. If you think it needs more salt, add it. Nobody but you can tell you how much is enough :)

I use kosher salt on everything, to me it is not that salty as reg. table salt. I do not tend to over salt before, during or after ( I mean I put a little in before during if needed) but I leave the person to complete the "whatever" to their own taste.

@dbcurrie - I fully agree with your post. I was getting antsy about my use of salt, but truly as has been stated I have had many bland and tasteless meals because salt was not used in cooking, nor offered at the table - I learned to cook using salt and I guess I will continue - no one has ever complained that my food was oversalted

I agree on the kosher salt comments - it's a completely different product.

One of my favorite snacks is a toasted piece of brad (ezekial) with sliced avocado, a heavy drizzle of lime juice, and then a light sprinkle of kosher salt. But I would NEVER do this with table salt - gross gross gross.

The only thing I used table salt for is baking and soups. Pastas, fishes, meats, casseroles, eggs... I always use kosher.

Everyone's responses are so interesting. I'm starting to think my taste buds are simply not accustomed to chef-level quantities of salt, because I do often think restaurant food tastes considerably too salty. Recently, for instance, I found a restaurant's vinaigrette gag-inducingly salty. I was with a friend who's a great cook and she tasted the salad too and said it didn't seem excessively salty at all. Hmm. It's not like I would ever cook or bake without salt, though, so again, it's about quantity (and as many people have pointed out, quality, too).

I actually don't really use that much salt BUT the things that I insist upon salting are:

1. Baked potatoes
2. Popcorn
3. Eggs
4. Pasta water

I agree that restaurant food is agressively salted, especially soups and breads. Good quality salt or bad, salt is salt and a little bit goes a long way. Salt should enhance the flavor of ingredients in the dish, not overpower them.

I think oversalting is "safer" than undersalting for a chef, because a dish can be slightly too salty but still tasty to most. On the other hand, if a dish is not salty enough for some people who are used to eating salty foods, it tastes bland to them.

I use salt pretty generously at home, but still think restaurant dishes are often too salty.

Because the chefs don't have to eat what they cook, they can use as much salt and fat as they want to make their food taste "better" for most people.

I keep my kosher salt in a small canister and leave it open when I'm cooking.

Salt..oh how I love it, I keep a covered salt bowl with course kosher salt next to my stove. It's there for adding to pasta, etc. Because of my love of salty foods, I try to under-salt for my family and let them add salt, grey, or fine sea salt at the table. I love it when my DH tastes something I'm cooking on the stove and he says it needs more salt....I say...oh, that's why I love you!!!!

I have a health issue that makes limiting salt necessary. My cardiologist told me that he wasn't concerned about the salt I used in cooking or at the table, but to eliminate processed foods (this, by the way, is not a popular recommendation). I salt, and sometimes pretty liberally, in cooking and at the table if it seems necessary (I do taste first). I never have problems unless I eat processed foods.

I'm aware of a lot of "experts" who advise using minimal or no salt during cooking and "to taste" at the table -- assuming that less will be used that way. The problem is that salt added at the table doesn't really flavor the dish -- it's just the first thing you taste when eating.

I found this linked to in Ruhlman's blog:
salt

@bareneed when cooking for myself at home, whenever im making meat of any kind i season it with sea salt and pepper, and usually a bunch of other stuff too. at home i almost never salt after a meal is prepared. i try not to in restaurants too, usually i just pepper. pretty much the only things i salt at restaurants are mashed potatoes. my moms cooking sometimes requires some salt as she doesnt season as much as i do before she cooks things. once you start making your own food its so hard to readjust to the cooking you grew up with, ive found! things taste pretty bland, becasue my mom is sensitive to spices/pepper. me and my dad are always mad with the pepper shaker [wish they had a grinder!! so many things ive gotten spoiled with!].

When you use as much salt as Bender Bending Rodriguez, you are using too much.

Eat a lot of salt will just make you thirsty and you'll drink more. Which actually plumps you up...rather than making you a raisin.

I always season when cooking, do offer salt & pepper shakers on the table to guests and find they rarely use them. My father used to come over for dinner on a regular basis when he & his gf broke up....at first he was a steady 'salter'....grabbing the salt shaker & dousing everything before tasting it....possibly because he doesn't cook with alot of salt. Now he rarely grabs the salt shaker...understanding that I season as I cook and there really isn't a need for additional salt.
I also keep my salt in a salt pig on the counter next to my stove. We have 3 cats & 2 rabbits, and I've never found a stray hair in it!

To add confusion to the 'table vs. kosher' debate--my mother who lives in a thirdw orld country, has a hard time finding anything other than iodized salt. Since she loves pulling recipes off of sites like food network etc, where any salt in a recipe is almost always kosher or some other fancy variant, she always has to start at half the volume measurement required, and then work up by taste. Iodized salt is just too salty in comparison and she's ruined a lot of recipes by substituting iodized equally for kosher.

For me, I rarely cook with exact measurements and find I like the look and flavour of kosher or other sea salts, but don't necessarily like to finish a dish (like eggs or grilled asparagus) with big salty chunks. Instead of a salt pig, I keep a few tablespoons of coarse kosher salt in a mortar and pestle. I grind my salt to teh texture I like. It is a stress reliever to take your frustrations out on salt, and there are some times when a powdery fluff of salt that is quickly absorbed into the dish is kind of lovely as well.

If it's a roast I'm seasoning, however, give me coarse crystals to rub into that meat!

Attention home cooks:

Stop using iodized table salt! Of course you dislike using salt since this stuff packs more sodium per teaspoon than others, such as kosher and sea salt. Why? It has to do with both the salt crystals size and the amount of sodium in each crystal.

Most sodium = table salt
Just the right amount of sodium = kosher salt
Least sodium= most sea salts

How is one salt saltier than another? Sodium chloride is sodium chloride. Claiming than one form of salt is less salty than the other is ludicrous. Gram per gram table salt, kosher salt and sea salt are equally salty. Granted, unrefined sea salt is not 100% sodium chloride, but the stuff that most people buy that's labelled sea salt is refined and iodized and no different from other tables salt.

You are sorely mistaken if you think that the stuff most people buy labeled as sea salt is refined and iodized. It is the exact opposite; unrefined and not iodized and made from evaporated sea water. Table salt is refined salt, which may be as high as 99% sodium chloride. Different natural salts have different mineralities, giving each one a unique flavor. Fleur de sel, natural sea salt harvested by hand, has a unique flavor varying from region to region.

Take a look at a grain of each salt. Sea salt should be flakey and translucent while kosher salt should look like a little white pyramid and table salt is simply a small, refined dot. The finer the crystal is, the more salt you will taste on your palate. And yes, salt is mostly sodium chloride, but different varieties contain anti-caking fillers and small amounts of other minerals such as potassium iodide, magnesium and calcium. Instead of these compounds "diluting" sodium levels in refined salts, they "concentrate" it. I'm sure you have heard of calcium chloride, the stuff we use on our sidewalks to melt the ice that forms in the winter? A minute amount of that is in table salt. Again, it's not enough to do harm, but it makes standard table salt more salty than the rest.

I don't know where you are, but over here in Montreal the two most popular brands or sea salt are Kalas and La Baleine. Both of which are refined and iodized. Fleur de sel and coarse sea salt are mostly sold in gourmet shops and I can count on one hand the people I know who use them on a daily basis whilst the two aforementioned brands are in practically everyone's pantry.

I have a serious love for maldon sea salt, and I snack on it. But I undersalt when cooking, in order to enjoy the particular taste of salt on my tongue from the surface of food. Some of the FN chefs use an absurd amount of salt, and I seriously doubt that batch of food is edible. Rachel Rae in particular uses a ton, with much enthusiasm for salting every "layer" of food.

I'm living in New Jersey and I have never heard of Kalas, but I have used La Baleine coarse sea salt in the red tube; the fine version of this salt is in the blue tube. La Baleine is a naturally evaporated sea salt from France. Neither of the types (fine or coarse) are refined or iodized so check your label again. It actually says in big letters on the tube, "This salt does not supply iodide, a necessary nutrient." And just because the blue tube contains smaller, finer salt crystals does not mean it is refined; it was simply ground by a machine. Refined means treated, fillers added, or altered in some way aside from being simply ground up.

I think the majority of Americans are probably using iodized table salt. What should be in everyones cupboard, however, is Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt. I'm not surprised most people don't have Fleur de sel or Maldon in their cupboards; it is expensive stuff. I use it because I'm a chef.

On another note, Food Network Cooks, for the majority, are cooking for your entertainment. They "dumbify" the recipes for the novice home cook. Trust me, if they actually cooked like they have been trained to cook, as a Chef, most people would not be able to keep up nor understand why they were using certain techniques. I used to watch FN all the time, and then I became a chef and my view of the programming has completely changed. Top chef and Iron chef are among the better, slightly more realistic culinary shows in TV. Rachel Ray is another story; I wouldn't listen to that woman.

For most of you who think TV chefs use too much salt, they actually don't. That is the amount of salt necessary to accentuate the natural flavors of that food and the reason why your home cooked food is not as good as food at a restaurant. They're not using fine ground salt either; that stuff is too salty on solid foods and is usually meant for baking use and/or seasoning liquids, where it can be easily dissolved.

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