Disgusting Wedding Cake and Cupcakes
I had such high hopes. I found a coupon in a local mailer for a bakery that made cupcakes and wedding cakes. Since I'm getting married in May and I had a coupon, I thought I would check it out. Me and a friend got a vanilla cupcake and a chocolate cupcake. The icing was great. The vanilla was pretty tasty. The chocolate....not so good, but not inedible. Well we were having a girl's night so we decided to order a dozen ($32!!!!) of assorted flavors to test out for the wedding. Some of the flavors were blondie (tasted like dirt), cookies and cream (gray and clumpy), orange creamsicle (dubbed orange A**) and strawberry (indescribable). I'm not exagerrating when I say they were inedible. They were so bad that I wanted to call the lady that owns the bakery and tell her in a nice way that she shouldn't sell cupcakes anymore. What would be the best way to say something like that?
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27 Comments:
Just by you telling as many people you know as possible the cupcakes from that place are so bad will do the damage. Think about when you have a good meal and a bad meal at a restaurant you more than likely tell more people about the bad meal.
WSLunch at 9:28PM on 03/24/09
I believe the best way to communicate that to a place that obviously is not doing any kind of good job is not to go back.
I think this cupcake thing is a trend. Everyone thinks its cutesy and cheap when in fact its easier to ice a dozen cupcakes than it is to ice a whole cake. Cupcakes are a real profit margin gainer. For me they are not my bag. If I do small desserts, petit fours or small pastries I do not make a cupcake of any kind.
I still picture that room mother lugging in the cupcakes and me taking my home for my baby sister because I was not crazy about duncan hines cupcakes. I have had all kinds of cupcakes from all the top cupcake performers and my response is ok its a cupcake. This fad will pass and I predict in 2009 PIE is making a comeback.
Go to a place that does wedding cakes and get a sample of one of their "cakes".
JerzeeTomato at 9:30PM on 03/24/09
If you told her you didn't like them, she'd either say that it's a matter of taste (which in fact it is...) and that she can't help it if you didn't like the flavor. She would probably be thinking that you were trying to scam some free future cupcakes or get yourself a refund.
I'd suggest that you simply find someplace else to deal with.
I think that some places that specialize in wedding cakes don't care so much about the flavor, they're selling a pretty cake to a bride who probably won't eat more than the bite for the photo. Find yourself a bakery that sells good baked goods, and talk to them about a cake.
dbcurrie at 9:38PM on 03/24/09
@JerzeeTomato - I have been pushing pie forever! I mushc prefer pie to cake/cupcakes, but I think too many people are intimidated by shortcrust. :-(
KarynMC at 10:01PM on 03/24/09
Can I third a hope for a big pie trend? I am so tired of cake!!
I LOVE LOVE LOVE pies of all kinds and wish they weren't relegated to holidays and treated like they are so much work. I can whip out a dozen pies faster than I can do a decorated cake. I would much rather be making pies all day than cakes and cupcakes and such. Mmm pie.
As for the original question (sorry, pie tangent) I don't think it would hurt to tell the place that your cupcakes were bad. State you don't want anything else and you have no intention of returning, but thought the owner should know on the off chance it was a fluke or something they may be interested in fixing.
db is right about some bakeries worrying more about the look than the taste. It will never cease to amaze me that a bakery with fabulous artists on staff that can do amazing work in icing and fondant and sugar, will use a cheap warehouse-style cake mix for the cake, and filling from buckets. I hear more people saying they don't like wedding cake, because it is nasty...and that is just not right. I would rather have a cake with a few flaws but fantastic taste over a look of perfection with sawdust inside. Go for many tastings and pick some good bakeries that focus on that and THEN worry about the decorations.
sadiepix at 10:14PM on 03/24/09
Well, if you thought the vanilla cupcakes were good but were really disappointed in all the other flavors, why not just tell her that? If she shouldn't be in that business, eventually, she'll figure it out.
I don't have any theoretical prblem with cupcakes, I just find that, due to the trendiness, they suffer too much in execution. No reason it shouldn't be as tasty as a cake in attractive, individually portioned form. But, as with wedding cakes, people tend to focus too much on the appearance at the expense of flavor. (And wedding cakes have the challenge of structural requirements to handle, as well).
renzata at 10:20PM on 03/24/09
Had to chime in here since I'm a baker and am getting married this year...
Lots of places use BOX MIX for their cakes. I know this for a fact. One of the best wedding cake bakeries in the DC area does so and everyone gets their cakes from there because they think it's the best (and no I'm not talking about Charm City Cakes, their cakes are made from scratch and when they do actually make a cake, it's excellent!)
Just because a cake looks pretty doesn't mean it tastes good. Unfortunately most people think any cake tastes good so they base their decision almost entirely on looks since they don't have the palate to judge substance.
Since I'm really particular about cake (and all baked goods), I went to 6 bakers for tastings, all of whom were very high end NYC bakers who make gorgeous cakes. The irony was that the one who was considered the best (she's regularly in Martha Stewart weddings) had the WORST cakes, the texture of all of them was like a dry sponge, the flavors were all off, and she used inappropriate ingredients - like lemon extract in a lemon frosting, nutella in a hazelnut frosting (if it'd advertised as hazelnut then it shouldn't also have chocolate in it!), and a weeping espresso buttercream frosting (she obviously mixed in WAY too much liquid espresso and the mixture separated because it couldn't hold so much moisture).
Anyway, I ended up going with one woman whose cakes were the best of the lot, not totally amazing, but still very good. Moreover, she was the nicest, most accommodating, most creative, and most willing to listen to my many demands :)
charm city cupcake at 11:17PM on 03/24/09
I definitely think you should go back and speak kindly to the owner and let them know how disappointed you were. You could tell them that you're not looking for any discounts or the like and just wanted to give an honest opinion. If they really care about their business, they will be glad for the feed back and will do something about it.
yankeesgal at 1:28AM on 03/25/09
Lots of ways to approach this. One part of me says "go back and tell the owner in a diplomatic way. You could be doing her (or him) a favor" - maybe she had some help that wasn't following a recipe or had a bad batch of ingredients.
On the other hand - if you've alternative bakeries - try them.
Not much different than getting served a bad meal in a restaurant.
Then again - go for the pie!
Ribster at 5:25AM on 03/25/09
Don't buy your wedding cake with a coupon--'nuf said
godeats at 9:34AM on 03/25/09
I went through this same thing...well sort of. I'm getting married in October, and I scheduled an entire day of cake tastings (my mom lives out of town) and we ate cake ALL day long.
Needless to say we stopped by this one particular bakery and they were all very nice. The owner actually ran the tasting for us and gave us the background of the bakery, it's been around for 30 years blah blah blah. But in the end he spent most of his time bragging about how good their cakes were, and that they used the original recipes from 30 years ago.
So he gave us this mass of cake that had one flavor of buttercream and one flavor of cake. Yellow cake, with vanilla butter cream...which is not bad, but I'm going for a more inventive stance on my wedding cake flavors. I'm also used to bakeries offering several flavors in their tastings, but apparently not this one.
The hunk of cake that we were served looked like a small cake that you might by from a Wal-Mart bakery. And what was even worse, is that it tasted like that too. It was honestly the worst cake that I've ever put in my mouth. We kindly ate our cake, and smiled at that guy, my mom was able to stomach nice words before we quietly left the bakery and vowed never to go back!
Long story short...don't go back to the bakery. Just keep your opinions outside of their store and make sure to tell anyone who's thinking about trying them what they're really all about.
CarolynEats at 9:41AM on 03/25/09
Yay to pie! Boo to cupcakes! I've never understood the furor over cupcakes. I don't like to make or decorate them- too tedious. And transporting them is a bitch. I'd much rather decorate a cake than 2 or 3 dozen cupcakes.
I agree with pp- just don't go back to that bakery. Actions speak louder than words.
@Charm City- not sure what you mean by "and no I'm not talking about Charm City Cakes, their cakes are made from scratch and when they do actually make a cake, it's excellent!"
Are you saying Duff and the gang don't bake their own cakes? I'm confused.
AuntJone at 10:26AM on 03/25/09
@AuntJone, I'm not sure (and hopefully charm city cupcake will add more) but I think I read somewheret that CCC's actual cakes are made off-site, and they only do the structuring and decorating at the outpost that's on TV (and only four blocks from my apartment!!!).
kfarrel3 at 10:44AM on 03/25/09
I'm wondering how she got in business in the first place?
chardonnay at 11:22AM on 03/25/09
Regarding pies: Although I am not a fan of them myself, I have heard that there is a growing trend toward pies as substitutes for wedding cakes. You can have *loads* of varieties to suit everyone's tastes and they can still take interesting visual appearances (like a layer cake does) and be really cool-looking. I would definitely look into that. :)
Traveller at 12:59PM on 03/25/09
Box mix? Blecchh. No thanks. For a wedding? Ugh.
As for the bakery in question, simply keeping your money in your pocket or spending it somewhere else speaks volumes, not to mention the toxic word of mouth.
I love pie - pretty much any fruit - or custard, coconut or chocolate topped with meringue or whipped cream - but I don't see that happening for a wedding. Can you imagine a ginormous pie being wheeled out?? "And the bride cuts the pie, the bride cuts the pie...OMG, she fell in!" Cake makes more sense because it cuts cleanly and can be made to mountainous proportions.
If I may speak on behalf of the lowly cupcake... When correctly done, cupcakes represent a perfect microcosm of all that is right about full-sized cakes. The "cake" should be just as delectable, flavorful and tightly-crumbed as any full-sized "company" cake you can make. The icing on a cupcake should be so rich and wonderful that, after consuming one, you are left with the distinct feeling you've just had sex. With a porn star. A well-made cupcake should be so tasty that it feels wrong to eat it with your hands.
Let's face it, a cupcake doesn't have much time to impress you.
Slopping together Duncan Hines cake mix and Sandra Lee Canned Icing is going to render a crumbly, fake tasting, nugget barely recognizable as cake - topped with napalm. Not fit for consumption at a wedding, or any Tuesday afternoon.
Jerz - the cupcake thing isn't going away anytime soon. Remember the January 2004 Gourmet Magazine cover that featured a cake adorned with cupcakes? They got letters, both pro and con, for over a year. With gourmet shops successfully offering sublime cupcakes that do meet flavor and appearance criteria, cupcakes are not a bad idea. Like any other food purchase, it's a cross between caveat emptor and trial and error.
therealchiffonade at 5:26PM on 03/25/09
I may be lambasted for saying this, but we used Costco cake for our wedding and just had a seriously small cake for pics and for us. I actually really like Costco cake. Does anyone else?
PestoGal at 5:41PM on 03/25/09
I am very fussy about cakes and am actually saddened when a cake opportunity is wasted by supermarket cake. That being said, a lot of folks have said great things about Costco cakes (and cheesecake), but I never tried one. I will say that one of the best commercial cupcakes I've had in recent memory was a mini-cupcake from the Wal-Mart bakery. I haven't seen them sold individually since, but that was two bites of buttery vanilla deliciousness.
renzata at 8:01PM on 03/25/09
am actually saddened when a cake opportunity is wasted by supermarket cake.
This is why local bakeries have all but disappeared in all but the most populous cities. The need for "one stop shopping" has aced out a lot of boutique businesses. Unfortunately, bakeries fall into that category.
Wal-Mart is perhaps the biggest offender. Sometimes you need a pound of butter AND a bolt cutter. WM is the place to go when your shopping list is varied and your time is short. It's also the reason local hardware stores, bakeries and butchers have gone the way of the Fuller Brush Man.
To be honest, 9 out of 9 1/2 times, I'll bake my own cake unless it's something so ethnic or specific that I can only get it at a bakery. As for "wasting" a cake opportunity on a supermarket cake - no chance, no way.
therealchiffonade at 6:55AM on 03/26/09
My family surprsed us for our 40th wedding anniversary with a dinner at a small Italian restaurant - there were about 50 people and my Mother ordered 5 dozen cupcakes from a woman who had just started up a little business - they were amazing, real cake, big size, different flavors with icing and sprinkles of various colours and ingredients. They were displayed on a special three ringed base and what a lovely display they made - nothing was garish or neon colored, the various icing was pastel and suited to the flavor of the cupcake, each cupcake was made in a paper frill. I have never seen anything, anywhere, that made such a positive display both visually and was also delicious to eat! All the children were intrigued and had their cupcake picked out ages in advance, staff at the restaurant and other clients asked for input. It was a wonderful success and marked a perfect end to our celebration!
bareneed at 8:44AM on 03/26/09
oh my .. i'll have what therealchiffonade is having... I like CAKE! Any cake done right.. is alright with me.
"The "cake" should be just as delectable, flavorful and tightly-crumbed as any full-sized "company" cake you can make. The icing on a cupcake should be so rich and wonderful that, after consuming one, you are left with the distinct feeling you've just had sex."
AMEN.
TeriN at 10:36AM on 03/26/09
We've had enough of the cupcake thing.
Thanks,
NYC
bobbob at 11:53AM on 03/26/09
@bobbob - seeing as you are from the center of the universe, NYC, you are probably five years ahead of the smaller cities and towns in the provinicial backwaters of America - so - we will luxuriate in our cupcake bonanza while you guys "source out" the next fad.
bareneed at 12:16PM on 03/26/09
I like Costo cake too, and if you don't have the time to bake, or the money to spend on a high end bakery, taste wise, they are definitely competitive with what you'll get from a run of the mill bakery. Cake Man Raven it's not, but for a big or small party, I've never heard complaints.
MMinNYC at 12:35PM on 03/26/09
@bareneed its just a comment about cupcakes and the ridiculous number of places that offer them in NYC since the whole sex in the city craze it wasn't meant to be an appeal to your apparent insecurities.
bobbob at 1:35PM on 03/26/09
@bobbob - WHO is insecure - not me, no sirreee! MY comment was merely to point out (maybe a tad sarcastically) that not everyone was tired of cupcakes - it is literally just catching on in my city. The whole "been there, done that" thing has a way to go yet.
bareneed at 1:50PM on 03/26/09
Cupcakes haven't even started up here in Maine. We're (semi-actively) trying. However, I have never been tempted to go into a cupcake shop in New York, just because I know I'd like my own cupcakes tons better. No one needs another boring cupcake shop that only sells chocolate, vanilla and red velvet.
Surprisingly, I actually generally prefer to eat pie. As long as it's fruit pie. But I like to make cupcakes better than making pie or a whole cake. I like the process of inventing a cake flavor and a filling and frosting that will go with it. A pie is just crust, filling, bake, you're done. Not as creative. I HATE making actual cakes. You need a whole set of special instruments to make an attractive cake.
Finally, cake mix has no business being anywhere near a wedding cake. That's disgusting and deeply insulting. Good luck finding a decent cake.
VerySmallAnna at 2:38PM on 03/26/09