Bugs in the cupboard
This is pretty gross...
I noticed a couple of bugs in a cupboard where I keep empty jars, spices and extra bulk dried goods that didn't fit into jars. There were a couple in an empty jar. I don't know how they got there, as the jar appears to have been closed.
Then I pulled out a bag of brown rice and found little holes in it. There was a bug trapped in one of those holes. When I transferred the bag's contents to a jar I found a bunch wriggling around. Obviously I'm throwing out that rice. I'm disgusted now.
Does anyone have a solution to both prevent bugs and to get rid of the ones I've got? Is there some sort of trap?
I'll have to go through the cupboard carefully and throw things out and give it a good cleaning. I guess I'm getting rid of stuff for passover after all.
Thanks.
I'm putting this under "good and drink" although it's more miscellaneous.
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19 Comments:
I keep everything in the refrigerator, including flour, dry starches, and sweetener. If something needs to be brought to room temperature for a recipe I take it out beforehand.
To get rid of them, you can bug bomb the house, which I did one summer, and it worked.
HeartofGlass at 9:08AM on 03/29/09
Sorry @CFG, it's a drag when that happens. You know, sometimes it's not actually your cupboard, it's how you got the food. For about 6 months, every package of DeCecco pasta I bought had crawlies in them. I tried different markets, it made no difference. I stopped buying it for a couple of years. Don't seem to have that problem with it now. Once I found an entire ecosystem living in an unopened plastic bag of bran. It was in the back of the cupboard and when I pulled it out, it was all puffed up and filled with much wildlife, webs and everything.
I keep food that is naturally attractive to bugs in the fridge or freezer. Everything else in in tightly sealed jars or ziplock bags. It's not just to keep bugs out, but to keep bugs in that may have come with the product. Buying loose grains from the health food store is always a toss-up.
I'd throw out everything in your cupboard that isn't in a can, or at the very least, anything that's ever been opened, wash the cans well, and scrub down the cupboard with a super-hot vinegar/water mix.
Regarding the bugs themselves, there is a product called Safer Brand Pantry Nest Trap that works pretty well, as long scrub everything down first. If you just toss them in without cleaning everything up first, it won't do much good.
Hope this helps.
chisai at 9:37AM on 03/29/09
If you don't have room to keep everything in the fridge all the time (like me) you could try putting things in the freezer for a while when you first bring them home. I do this with stuff from a certain food coop whose dry bulk goods I've had problems with before. I really don't know how long in the freezer works to knock them out but I usually leave the stuff there until I remember it, a week or two.
swampyankee at 11:58AM on 03/29/09
I've had that happen, usually from bringing home some sort of infested package. swampy's idea of putting everything in the fridge when you first bring it home is great.
In our house we usually keep all grains or starches in containers. Unopened packages go in a big tub, usually divided by type (beans in one, grains in another, pastas in another). Those are sealed. Once the package is opened, the label is clipped and goes into a tall clear plastic container with a good sealing lid. You can do this less expensively by just saving jars like tomato sauce or just buy some mason jars.
There are little traps you can buy that will catch the mature moths, they contain a glue surface and a pheremone to attract them. However, if you're bringing home the infested goodies, this won't do much good.
Avoid stores where you see little moths flying around and examine packages carefully before taking home.
Cybele May at 1:21PM on 03/29/09
I keep everything covered. Bags of flour in zip locks, canning jars, everything is covered and locked down. Also I clean my pantry every month everything out and inspected (takes 2 days) and cupboards twice a year. Everything out inspected and put back.
A person I knew, very clean home, but her kids would drop cherrios and crumbs in the drawers as little people will do and she got an ant problem that was just wild. It was like watching a cartoon. They came "marching in" if she sprayed they formed a traffic circle around the spray and marched on.
If I were you I would pull everything out of the cabinets and check your caulking, window screens and door gaskets. Bugs get in, leave them less opportunities by locking down your food stuffs, closing off any entries to them and getting any attractive crumbs that entice them up ASAP.
JerzeeTomato at 1:23PM on 03/29/09
@CanadianFoodieGirl - I totally sympathize. We also live in Toronto and have suffered both ant (sugar craving) and moth (starch craving) invasions.
For the moths, the first time we tried throwing away the goods and scrubbing down the cabinet. It wasn't enough, the moths came back the next year. That time we did what several above have suggested - first we used up or threw out everything in the cupboard not in a can. Then, we scrubbed and put all replacement items in the refrigerator for storage. And then we kept all starchy items out of the cupboard for a year.
For the ants, who were attracted to anything with refined sugar or alcohol, we did the same thing: toss, clean, refrigerate. We also used diatomaceous earth at ingress points; this is a chemical free way to get rid of some pests.
To be honest, because the refrigerator has only so much room, this was a great way to get out of the habit of eating highly processed foods such as cereals, cookies, mac & cheese, white sugar and flour, etc. This was a fringe benefit for both our waistlines and our pocket books!
OliverRanch at 2:11PM on 03/29/09
Oh, I feel your pain! JerzeeTomato's advice sounds good. Here are some survival tips until your debugging is complete:
Get some food-storage containers with tight-fitting lids, and transfer your food to them asap, unless it already comes in a container with a tight-fitting lid.
When you buy the containers, check for places where a bug can position itself at the ready to dive in. Tiny hiding places near the top may be unavoidable, but don't buy a container with any jumping-off place large enough for an adult cockroach. And keep examining and wiping off the top edges. Tupperware is a good source for well-designed plastic canisters. And don't forget those metal spaghetti tins; they protect pasta from light as well as bugs.
To store bread at room temperature, don't depend on the wrap the bread came in, or on thin food and bread bags. Bugs can gnaw their way through them. Use reclosable zip-lock bags; they're thicker.
And if you see bugs in your refrigerator, the fridge is on the fritz. Call the repairman asap. Insects hate the near-freezing temperature of a properly working fridge.
And chisai, thanks for the link.
miminqueens at 3:42PM on 03/29/09
I washed out the cupboard, threw out everything that looked infested, then put all of the little bags into plastic tubs that I buy salad in. The bugs were contained to one cupboard but I did the same with a second cupboard.
There's no room in my freezer to put any of this but I might try the fridge idea.
I'm keeping an eye out for them. I saw one crawl up the wall hours after the cleaning.
CanadianFoodieGirl at 4:48PM on 03/29/09
If you're cleaning for Pesach, you should be checking your food for bugs before you use it as well (year round). there are several books in Hebrew on bug-checking, or an internet course in English by Rebitzin Green of Bircas HaTorah. worth it to keep you from eating non-kosher bugs.
rabbiswife at 5:17PM on 03/29/09
If you're cleaning for Pesach, that's a powerful motive for debugging. At least you kill two birds with one stone.
miminqueens at 5:38PM on 03/29/09
check out this thread from last year. http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2008/10/yucky-worms.html
nightmoon at 7:53PM on 03/29/09
After vacuuming out the bugs, put a thin line of boric acid in the crevice where the cabinet meets the wall. Boric acid is safe for you and your pets. For more extreme needs (as my dad had when they moved into an infested home), if your home has a crawl space, open the access door, close the vents, and get your leaf blower. Duct tape a canister of boric acid to the air intake of the blower, aim under the house, and turn it on. When white clouds come from around the vent doors, you're done. I'm serious, he did this. They have not had a crawling insect in 5 years.
beth1 at 9:08PM on 03/29/09
Re. the boric acid suggestion: Any other similar suggestions? Not that I have anything against boric acid, I just like options.
My place is really old with plastic cupboards. I'm not really sure where I'd put the boric acid etc. but I'll figure it out when I'm back in my kitchen.
@nightmoon: Thanks, I forgot about that thread. Usually I search for similar topics before I post.
CanadianFoodieGirl at 10:27AM on 03/30/09
Ugh. We've had similar problems with pantry moths from time to time. They eat through cardboard and thin plastic -- the only way I know to keep them in their place is to put everything they might possibly be attracted to (and this includes powdered sugar, as I discovered much to my chagrin, and chocolate chips) into glass jars.
Savour at 7:54PM on 03/30/09
So apparently there are different kinds of buggies a person could have? We have occasional issues with what I have just called "grain bugs" for lack of an actual name, and since that's pretty much the only place I find them. They're obviously not ants, but I've never seen any moths, either. How many options of varmint are there? I wasn't familiar with these things before moving to the midwest, though my mom claims that I have an aunt whose mother-in-law in Maryland has the same thing AND JUST COOKS THEM AND EATS THEM IN HER FOOD! Gross on its own, but now I'm curious if they are the same buggies that I have. They are nasty and freak me out/make me want to gag.
Funny (now) bug story. I'd had an awful day and all I wanted was my Kraft Dinner. I poured my only box into the boiling water and half a dozen buggies floated to the surface. THERE'S a perfect ending to a crummy day! All went down the drain. :P
MaresyDotes at 11:13PM on 03/30/09
We lived on a golf course, and no matter how I cleaned, bugs were everywhere because of all the grass, trees, open space, etc.
My husband lined all the cupboard joints (where the cupboard wall meets the shelf at the back and on both sides) with clear heavy duty 3M shipping tape. It worked great because any bugs that came in could not nest, and any that were already in couldn't get to the shelf.
PS - I LOVE Trader Joe's, but this was ucky: We received a big bar of their chocolate as a gift. When I went to eat it, there were small white holes dotting the surface. I looked closer, and white worms were crawling out of all the holes. It was the sickest thing I've seen in a long time (and I've seen some sick things!).
serious1 at 3:46AM on 03/31/09
As far as solving the bug problem goes, I do what others have already mentioned: store starches in the freezer! Rice, flour, beans, etc. When we firsted started living together my roommate thought it was a weird habit on my part, but I was scarred by moths in the bisquick box at a very young age. Nothing like going to make breakfast in the morning and finding bugs where you least expect them!
Junie at 9:24AM on 03/31/09
Two days later, and no sight of any more bugs.
(They were small and brown, in case anyone wanted to know.)
Of course, now that I've said this I'll probably find some when I get home.
CanadianFoodieGirl at 2:56PM on 03/31/09
I store my flour and grains in airtight containers and I clean out the cabinets with bleach every 6 months or so. We had bug problems once a few years ago and we found that putting a bayleaf in each cabinet worked to drive them away....I don't know if it was the cleaning or the bayleaf but something worked and we have never had them since.
elderberry44 at 4:21PM on 04/13/09