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"...and the chicken tastes like wood."

Channelling my inner Sugarhill Gang, guys, sorry...
But seriously, SErs, I have an issue with my husband's love of boneless, skinless, grilled chicken breast. It seems no matter how much I season it or marinate it, I end up with charred blocks of chicken-wood. Incidentally, he does not seem to mind this so much, but I find it hard to choke down. I myself prefer a nice, juicy thigh or leg on the grill, complete with skin and fat and all the goodness...buy DH is adamant -- for him: no skin, no bones, white meat only. So, in order to keep everyone happy, I'm asking for some interesting suggestions on sauces or gravies or salsas or anything that can be put on top of his grilled chicken-wood pieces. Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

48 Comments:

what about poaching them? i've found they're tastier in a court bouillon or asian-y soy-based poaching liquid.

I use many marinades. Asian, italian, mexican, there are all kinds of things to marinade the boneless breast in. The problem I think your having is cooking/grilling them at too high a temp for too long. You sear the meat, then you let it finish so the center is about 164 degrees F or thereabouts.
When it reaches this temp yank it off the grill. Go get a meat thermometer and your chicken will improve.

I love to stuff them with an herbed cheese roll them up and wrap them in bacon and bake them!! Maybe you can just bake yours while he grills (0=

If I was given a boneless, skinless chicken breast, I think I might do a quick stir fry with lots of flavorful veggies. After marinating it.

Or pound it thin, give it a little dust of flour and spices and do a quick fry.

You could do these things on a cast iron skillet, on the grill.

Grills are so hard to control the temp that the point between done and dry for a boneless, skinless breast is hard to judge. And if you keep poking and prodding with thermometers, you're draining the juices. A thermometer that you can leave in is better. The trick is to take them off when they're just barely done and let them rest and finish cooking. If you wait until they're completely done, it's too late.

This is one of the things that I had a hard time learning. I wanted to cook everything until it was perfectly done, and I was terrible about letting meat rest before cooking, so roasts and I weren't such good friends.

On the other hand, I also prefer the thighs, so I'm with you on that. You could buy both and cook them at the same time, and let him have his favorite part and you get yours. That's how chickens are made, so it's not so weird to be cooking different cuts of meat at the same time.

What I'd do, personally, is buy a whole chicken and cut it up. Breasts for him, thighs and legs for you, and the rest for chicken stock. Everybody wins. Well, not the chicken.

Yup. Marinate then poach. It will save your sanity with those dastardly things.

You really need to go hot and fast here, the only way to maintain juiciness, I'm here to tell you, if grilled is his only method. I'm with you on the thigh/leg meat, but have learned to cook boneless breast meat QUICKLY to be palatable. Other preps that work for me: piccata (pounded out, dredged in a bit of seasoned flour, sauted in a blend of olive oil and butter, finished with lemon juice and white wine) or shaved then stirfried in olive oil, maybe with a bit of garlic, onion and peppers and finished with a bit of white wine in a hot, hot pan--stuffed into pitas is delishoius, on topp of noodle, rice hot, or salad cold. Yummy.

I have often used the trick of wrapping them up with some veggies (frozen or fresh) in some tin foil and baking them in the oven that way. Usually, I will add in some marinara or salsa, just for a little extra flavor and moisture, but really, you don't even need that.

Brining the chicken usually works for me....

i use a wok for that kind of chicken. it cooks quickly and stays super juicy.

I buy them all the time and use lots of different preps and cooking methods, but the secret to a juicy boneless breast is to buy it at the right market. Seriously. I thought I had lost my touch because they were dry and tasteless, until I went back to my little grocery with the awesome butchers. Whole different meat. We had some last night that I marinated in a balsamic vinaigrette and grilled. They were tender and juicy and delicious. Shop elsewhere. If their chicken isn't great, their other meats are probably sub-standard, as well.

i had some leftover baked chicken breasts that were blah. i've been eating them for the last few dinners. so last night, i roasted some garlic and tomatoes with olive oil and salt. and then blitzed with the hand blender. it was simple and truly delicious. just pour as much of that stuff on your cooked chicken. it would work as a great base for some indian spices too.

Thanks for all of the suggestions....
My main concern is that my hubby wants GRILLED meat. I agree that there is nothing nicer than a good picatta, or marsala, or poached, or even a nicely fried pounded out cutlet...but alas, now that it's grilling weather, he's after me to grill as much as possible...which, like I mentioned, always seems to dry them out, no matter how much marinating I do. I've also tried the slightly undercooking them and letting them rest method, and have found that I'm still left with boring dry chicken. That's why I was sort of hoping for some interesting gravies or dressings or salsa to top them with, post-grilling. I think what I'm going to go back to doing is thawing some thighs for me and leave him to his breasts. so to speak.

Have you tried brining them? And maybe pounding them out so they cook faster and maybe absorb more marinated goodness?

Failing that, I'd buy him his boneless skinless chicken jerky and I'd buy myself thighs or legs. I'm not going to suffer with dry chicken just for some man. ;-)

What about trying turkey breast instead? Nutritionally comparable to the white meat, skinless, etc. It's so much bigger that it may be a little more forgiving on the grill. They've also been a little less industrialized thus far, compared to chicken, so may maintain a bit more of the animal goodness chicken is now devoid of.

Barring that, just make separate pieces, like you said. :)

Seriously, just buy the good stuff for yourself, and keep a stock of boneless, skinless for him in the freezer. No point in eating something you dont like!

Brining or marinating the chicken breasts often helps. You might also consider keeping some herbed butter in the freezer. Shape into a log and slice off what you need. One thing I really like is herbed blue cheese butter. As far as a sauce, what about this recipe for Cucumber Salsa and Tsatsiki from Gourmet magazine over at epicurious.com?

i only eat the breast myself and one of my favorite ways to cook them are to top it with some garlic, s&p, bbq sauce, and chopped onion. i just wrap it in a foil pouch and 20 minutes later it's done and juicey. just let it rest for a few while you make your plate.

I agree with the people who said buy some breasts and some thighs/legs, and make both. I'm a white meat person, but if I were eating with people who hated white meat, I'd never force them into eating that.

dearrie makes a good point. It's kind of en papillote (or would it be en foillote?) That kind of steams/poaches them ON the grill so it should get some of that flavor. Not a bad idea.

Completely agree with the pouch on the grill approach, it will help keep the white meat tender. My brother in-law can't cook (well my sister is worse... they just don't like to!) but he has one go to recipe that is simple and surprisingly tasty (despite the strange ingredient list):
Jar of salsa
about 1/4-1/3c. peanut butter
cilantro/scallions
*toasted sesame/coconut (if you have it)
mix salsa and PB together either in a bowl or in a pan if you feel like having it a little thinner/warmer. Pour over cooked chicken and rice/couscous/noodles or whatever other starch you have on hand and feel like eating with chicken. Top with herbs. Sprinkle with lime, or if you have a lime and you're my brother in-law just put the lime in your corona/G&T instead!

I'd turn them into chicken chili. or chicken piccata. or chicken marsala. they work well for chicken cacciatore or parmesan.

Brining will make a huge difference in the juiciness of the meat; it works through a different process than marinating. Marinating uses acidity, which causes your mouth to salivate, giving the illusion of tenderness. Brining uses salt to force the meat cells to suck up more water, rendering them extra juicy.

It's not hard either! Just 4 c. cold water, and 2 Tbsp. salt. Let the breasts sit in there for at least two hours, then drain the brine, and pat the breasts dry with a paper towel, to rid excess salt.

As for sauces, since you're already grilling, how about a grilled tomato salsa?
-1 pound fresh tomatoes, sliced into quarters
-1/2 medium onion
-1 red bell pepper
-4 jalapeƱos, halved lengthwise, seeded
-1 clove garlic
-Juice of 1 lime
-Cilantro to taste
-Salt to taste
Brush the vegetables lightly with oil so they won't stick, and grill them directly on the grate. For really juicy tomatoes, you can cook them on foil. Once cooked, blend the grilled vegetables in a bar blender or food processor with the cilantro, garlic, lime juice, and salt.
If tomatoes aren't in season, you can substitute a can of fire-roasted tomatoes. Or for a brighter salsa, try substituting the tomato and red bell pepper with tomatillos and a green bell pepper. The recipe is the same.

@PerkyMac had it partially right: "the right market." The right market takes delivery of fresh, top-iced chicken and doesn't freeze it. There's a world of difference between a fresh breast and a frozen one.

Of course the brining solution, pardon the pun, is good, but it does add a bit of extra sodium. It's good if sodium's not a concern.

I grill boneless chicken breast all of the time. As mentioned already, brining is the key to a juicy boneless breast cooked on a charcoal grill. (I don't use gas, but I am sure the same could be said as well. Gas isn't grilling. Might as well cook in the kitchen) Pounding them to an even thickness is very important as well. Do that before you brine. You only need to leave te chicken in the brine for about a half an hour to an hour. It won't hurt to leave it longer, but if your in a rush, no less than mentioned.

You can cook them slow and slow or right over direct heat, but remember that it won't take very long either way, and if done right, you will no longer be eating wood. Don't give up. You will get it right sooner or later.

I would suggest a good BBQ sauce or a teriyaki sauce, basted on right near the end of grilling time, and you'll be in business. Yummy!

Diddo Jerzee, but it seems the fresh, plump ones are oh so much better than the 3 or 5lb. bags of the frozen "wood".

A lot of the frozen ones will also be pumped full of water and salt to increase the weight. The water burns off more quickly than the natural juices, and adds no flavour at all.

I've always been perplexed that, while people know about different breeds of cattle and in some places different breeds of pigs, there's very little interest in the many different breeds of chickens. There are hundreds of breeds, and no two taste the same. The standard food breed was bred to put weight on as fast as possible, with no regard to flavour, so it can be sent to the slaughterhouse in just a few months. Just as veal tastes different to beef, a true free-range old-breed chicken will taste different to the mass-production one.

A couple ideas (if hubby is insistent on grilling):

- buy a probe thermometer that you can set to go off at the correct doneness (about 160...maybe set it short of that if you want it to finish cooking via carry over).

- consider setting up your grill so you have sections for direct heat and indirect heat. Sear the chicken for a few minutes over high direct heat. Then remove the chicken to finish cooking for another 5-7 minutes (here's where the probe thermometer is helpful) over indirect heat. You may find it will dry out less this way.

- Buy the chicken with skin and bone attached and remove the skin and bone after cooking but before serving to hubby. You, on the other hand, can enjoy the good stuff!

can't you make what you like for yourself? is there a reason you can't grill thighs and breasts at the same time? i don't get it.

in any case, cooks illustrated has a great technique for grilled chicken breasts that includes a quick brine and gives multiple options for sauces.

I made some Caribbean chicken (they have sweetness and heat) skewers on the grill from a recipe on the food network. Marinade them over night and baste partway through cooking on the grill.

Here is a link to the recipe I started with:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/sunny-anderson/caribbean-chicken-wings-recipe/index.html

I grill marinated chicken breasts rather often (I also slightly pound them before marinating) - they never taste like wood, never tough, always flavourful and juicy. I have several marinades that I use - tequila, white wine or shaoxing wine based. But the key is to not grill them longer than several minutes on each side, then let them rest covered with tin foil.

I don't always use sauces or salsas to top it, but If I use tequila-based marinade, I may make mango salsa, and when I use "schawarma" spices in a white wine based marinade (cumin, turmeric, etc), we usually make pita sandwiches with grilled chicken breasts, hummus/tahini sauce and fresh veg (tomatoes, cucumbers, peppers).

- Buy the chicken with skin and bone attached and remove the skin and bone after cooking but before serving to hubby. You, on the other hand, can enjoy the good stuff!

this was going to be my suggestion. The bone adds way more flavor, and the skin acts as a juice shield.

Above all, the key to good chicken is temperature. Get a quick, accurate meat thermometer, and don't take the center of the chicken beyond 150 (government says 165, I say government likes the people to have dry chicken). It'll make a huge difference.

Before marinating the chicken, i make sure to pound it so the thickness is pretty even throughout - a good marinade of lemon juice, olive oil, minced garlic, salt and pepper, and vinegar helps to make the meat more tender. leaving it over night is even better! I tend to cook my chicken on the grill 5 minutes per side (unless its much smaller, like the size of a chicken tender) and let it rest for a few...it always turns out perfectly!

To me you have two issues at hand besides your hubby's lack of culinary diversity: 1) lack of flavor, 2) overcooked meat that has no internal fat to keep it moist during the cooking over very high heat.

You've mentioned that you are using a marinade which is good but you may not be leaving it in long enough. If the breast only sits in the brine/marinade for an hour it's not going to be as flavorful as if you left it overnight. I would go so far as to get a bunch of breasts and make a marinade for them to sit in over night and then package them for freezing so that they are readily available. I don't eat chicken or turkey that hasn't had an overnight soak. Otherwise it tastes like vaguely chicken-y cardboard.

Grilling as the only heat source only works with protein that is evenly shaped, fairly thin and is best when it doesn't need to be cooked through. Chicken breasts are a poor choice for that kind of application. I'd approach it like you would a thicker steak: sear it on the rocket hot grill for 2 minutes a side and then finish it in a 350 oven for a few minutes followed by a few minute rest. Partial poaching before grilling is going to make things tricky as the breast will have a lot of surface moisture and the high heat will not enable the char/crust that makes grilling/searing so tasty. Don't forget to let your meat come to room temperature before putting it on the grill or the internal temperature will have 25 or so degrees to catch up with the outside. Everyone forgets to do that.

My husband's aunt served us the best grilled boneless skinless breasts I'd ever had this summer - juicy and delicious. She told me she had marinated them in mayonnaise (!!), soy sauce and garlic. We don't eat a whole lot of meat, but this was so tasty I tried it myself under our broiler and although the procedure was complicated by the marinade catching on fire, it was still delicious.

cook's illustrated did a recipe not long ago which i've executed a few times with good results. it was a fairly "traditional" grilled chicken breast, with the cooking method tweaked so as to ensure juicy tasty meat.

You need to build a 2-level fire, or on a gas grill just heat up both sides of the grill so it gets ripping hot, then turn off the burners on one side. After a fairly quick marinade (half an hour), you cook the breasts on the cool side of the grill under a disposable aluminum roasting pan. turn them once so that it cooks through on both sides. When the chicken is almost cooked through (like 140 degrees), remove the pan and move them to the hot side, where you just sear the outside, 1-2 minutes a side.

a google search for "grilled lemon parsley chicken" should turn up the full recipe.

Yogurt marinade: put your chicken breasts in a yogurt soak for at least 12 hrs before cooking. add anything you want to the yogurt but be sure and include some olive oil. wipe the chicken off before grilling and rub it with olive or canola oil and spices. I do this for baking breasts and it works great.


ONE SURE WAY TO HAVE JUICIER CHICKEN IS TO BROWN IT FIRST ABOUT 5 -6 MINUTES PER SIDE, COOL IT, SKIN IT AND THAN GRILL IT. USE A THERMOMETER AND DON'T OVER COOK IT. YOU CAN EVEN IMPROVE THAT BY REFRIGERATING AFTER YOU SKIN IT. JUICEY!!!!!! OLD CHEF

You are probably leaving it on the grill too long.

I like to marinade mine in a simple Italian Salad Dressing. I marinade for at least 30 minutes. Then I pat the meat dry with a paper towel and put on the grill. They cook really quickly and I suggest a instant thermometer to check the temp removing it 5 degrees before the meat is cooked. The meat will redistribute its juice and continue to cook for several minutes after you remove it from the heat source.

If you are using BBQ sauce, do not use it on the meat until it is almost cooked as the sugars will burn.

I agree with marinating and saucing. You can find a lot of recipes; check Indian (tandoori, yoghurt-based sauce), Greek, Italian, Asian, and North African for some good ideas for marinating. Some I like are oil, lemon juice, and oregano; soy sauce, oil, and garlic; yoghurt and ginnger and mustard seeds (crushed); mustard and oil and dill. Keep some of the marinade separate to use as brushing sauce while the breasts cook.

Some easy ones are to just whizz up anything you would do as a salsa to sauce consistency instead. Salsas that work best for turning into sauce are those based upon juicy fruits and veggies such as tomato or mango. Or you can place slices of tomatoes, lemons, oranges, apples, and other juicy things on the breasts to cook them. Another thing I do is take the juices from chutney, add a bit of curry powder, and use that to marinate/glaze the chucken. Then chop up the chutney and serve on top.

Something to remember is that you're better off with lower heat than high heat for things with little fat, like chicken breasts. You can sear to get the pretty grill marks, then move the breasts to a cooler area to finish cooking through. And if you prefer, see if you can buy breasts for you with skin and bones still in place, and either strip them for your husband, or just have a package of each. Yours will take longer than his to cook, but that's the cook's issue. If he makes you do the cooking, then he shouldn't mind if you cook something that you like for yourself, since you're cooking what he likes for him.

I think the whole idea is that hubby is cooking and we don't want to discourage him or make it too difficult, I think it's pretty special that he even attempts the job. I can't get my husband to cook anything. It seems like you really want something to help the bird after he has done whatever he does to cook it. So for this reason, I can see why you want a good sauce. It could be too messy or complicated for him to deal with different chicken parts ie: skin bones shapes.I know this would be tough for my no cooking hubby. A rub or marinade would help, if he is not one of those last minute chefs, and you have advanced notice. I would definately try some of the good sauces that the above have suggested, I know I am going to. GOOD LUCK and give that man a kiss.

If it has to be grilled, and it has to be boneless, I agree with the foil pouch that contains fat like butter, bacon, cream, or a spicy broth. You could also try mayo or salad dressing.

I understand the "must be grilled" requirement, but why boneless? Husband and I both prefer thighs, but I occasionally do breasts for health reasons. I find the ones with the bone in are far, far better in flavor and texture. A stay-in probe is MANDATORY, and they must be cooked on indirect medium. For the record, they come out WAY better in the oven or pressure cooker than the grill, and I can use much less fat to get better flavor.

I would suggest brining. Maintains moisture and seasons the breast well. Experiment with various components including cider, honey, herbs, spices, citrus. Allow the breast to dry and develop a pellicle. Butter or olive oil, hot skillet or charcoal, don't overcook. Easy and inexpensive with quick prep time.


I do boneless, skinless breasts all the time. Either oven fry or on the grill. An exciting thing to do is with a sharp paring knife cut a slit in the middle leaving about 1/4 inch on three sides and stuff it and pin the opening closed with toothpicks. My best was stuffing with a mixture of bread crumbs, a little orange juice concentrate and bleu cheese, cook it on the grill and bast it with K.C. Masterpiece.
You can stuff em with anything. The combinations that you can come up with really make it fun. old chef


Another stuffing I did that was great was stuffing it with fried chicken livers, bacon and roasted red peppers. old chef

Here are juicy boneless skinless chicken breasts. First, ask which he prefers, tasty and juicy OR cooked on a grill. He wants grilled over tasty and juicy, he deserves dry chicken. He wants tasty and juicy, here ya go:
Mariinate in olive oil, lemon juice, oregano, and S and P for 2 hours in fridge. Let come to room temperature. Saute in a little olive oil and butter for 3-4 mins per side over med hi heat then into a 350 deg oven for 10 mins or until instant read thermometer reads 150-155. Let rest 5 minutes and serve. Juicy and perfect every time.


old chef again --- Just thought of another stuffing. (Did this for a niece and named it after her)--- Stuffed the chicken with goat cheese and spinach and than made a wine sauce for it. Wonderful! o.c.

yogurt makes a great tenderizer for meats... marinade overnight and you can choose to either keep the yogurt on or pat/rinse it off.

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