Salad Dressing Help
As "from scratch" as I try to cook, I never attempt salad dressings or vinaigrettes. To be honest, the olive oil I buy is pretty crappy and cheap and I've always assumed that it would make my vinaigrette taste horribly. Once, I made aioli with really cheap olive oil and I had to throw the entire thing out because it tasted horrible.
Anyhow, I need a dressing or vinaigrette for a baby spinach, mushroom and pecorino salad. I'm willing to buy a decent bottle of olive oil, if necessary.
Also, someone please give me a mini lesson on olive oil. There's olive oil, virgin, and extra virgin, right? What kind do I use for what application, or does that not matter? For example, could I dress a salad with the same kind of olive oil I'd cook with?
Thanks in advance!
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21 Comments:
Salad dressing is one of the easiest homemade things you can make, and trust me on this - once you start you'll never bother with bottled dressing again.
The basics for dressing are 1 part acid to 3 or 4 parts oil (depends on how acidy the acid is and how tart you like your dressing. I usually go 1 acid to 3 oil.
You don't even need to do the whisking thing. I just use a glass jar with a tight fitting lid.
You do need a decent olive oil, but you can get a perfectly good extra virgin olive oil for like, 10 bucks a liter.
Differences between olive oil
A basic dressing and one that will go very nicely with your salad-
1 part red wine vinegar
3 parts olive oil
1 minced shallot (you can also use 1 tbs onion instead if you like)
S&P to taste
Take the red wine vinegar, salt and pepper and shallot and place in jar. Let sit for a few minutes. Add the oil. Cover and shake, shake, shake. Done.
Now, you can also add a couple teaspoons of dijon if you like. Me? I'd add the pecorino to the dressing before shaking.]
Play around with your dressings. Orange juice makes a great acid for spinach salad. Lemon is also kind of great and usually is my acid of choice if there's no cheese in the salad. Personally, I'm generally not a fan of balsamic vinegar in my salad dressing (there are exceptions, but that's usually the case), but I seem to be alone in this.
Good luck!
chisai at 6:16AM on 02/03/09
If you have an immersion blender, it is PERFECT for dressings. It emulsifies it all so it tastes super creamy, but you don't need as much oil. Plus, if you don't like the dressing chunky (as with minced whatever), it will take care of that. Same goes for using fresh herbs.
NYCEater at 7:55AM on 02/03/09
After reading ingredient lists on dressings a couple years ago, I haven't bought store bought since. The advice above is great. Look around the internet for recipes for dressing you like or have had in restaurants.
Some dressing take good extra virgin olive oil, others take plain old vegetable oil. You don't have to spend big bucks to make awesome salad dressing. Actually I know I'm saving money on not buying bottles since I always have the ingredients around.
You also don't need appliances though in some instances a food processor, blender, or immersion blender can really be great, especially if you're adding garlic, shallots, or herbs and you can just dump everything in the machine and there you go.
If you have basic cookbooks around, e.g. Joy of Cooking, there are many basic recipes in there that you can add to. good luck.
bobcatsteph3 at 8:10AM on 02/03/09
Though it may not be perfect for your salad (or maybe? Possibly worth a test-run), my favorite dressing to make is from a recipe for a detox-after-the-holidays cabbage salad. Basically, add equal portions of evoo and apple cider vinegar (start with 3 T each), 1 t. each of dijon mustard and honey, 1/2 t. of grated fresh ginger, 1 small clove of chopped garlic, light on the S&P. Whisk or process. It will knock your socks off!
savecara at 9:32AM on 02/03/09
Here is a great poppyseed dressing, it would be good on the spinach:
1&1/2 c. sugar
2/3 c. vinegar (I use cider)
2 tsp. salt
2 tsp. dry mustard
2 TBsp. grated onion
2 c. oil
mix all together, add 3 Tbsp. poppy seeds
joanpieroni2 at 9:40AM on 02/03/09
Not so much a recipe as a basic technique. Many folks have told me they got help from an old blog entry of mine: http://stlouiseats.typepad.com/st_louis_eats_and_drinks_/2007/11/dressing-a-sala.html
lemons at 10:06AM on 02/03/09
It tends to be about preference and experience as to which oil to use (or recipe). The more "virgin" the more flavor, typically. So you'd want good extra virgin where you really want to taste it, while if it's part of something more complicated you may either not want the flavor, or may be "wasting" it where it's lost. Some people prefer to use it for everything - Mario Batali even deep fries in EVOO. With the exception of dipping bread, I'm not a huge fan, so I tend to get "light" regular oil which has very little flavor. :)
MaresyDotes at 10:41AM on 02/03/09
The quality of olive oil makes a real difference in your olive oil experience. Here are my general applications for olive oils in various qualities.
Unfiltered - This oil will look like a swamp but taste like you've died and gone to Olive Heaven. I never use it to cook but drizzle it as a finishing oil on buffalo mozzie, mixed veggies, salad greens, and I chop herbs and garlic and use it as a dipping oil for excellent bread.
Extra Virgin - Finishing oil. I'm sorry. I think it's horribly wasteful of the fruity fragrance of this oil to heat it to smithereens. It's best consumed raw drizzled over something that's incredible already - vs. trying to improve something that's only so/so. Clearer and a bit more refined than unfiltered oil, it's still top of the heap.
Virgin - From the second pressing. This isn't as fruity as olive oil but I still don't cook with it. I like to use it for salad dressings. It's got all the robustness of olive oil but a step down from Extra virgin.
Olive Oil - Whenever you see anything that is not christened with a place in line, I just call that regular olive oil. This is the one I use to cook because the health benefit outweighs a great many other oils and you're not sacrificing that glorious fruity aroma and taste to the cooking gods.
Pomace - Run screaming. Don't go near this. It's awful. It's the dregs of the dregs of olive oil production. It's bitter and nasty. Bleah.
One small suggestion - don't buy something that tastes horrible out of the bottle. It's worth it to go without olive oil for a couple of weeks, then buy a great one. If you're looking for ways to mask the flavor of your oil, you're buying the wrong oil. PS - I did this years ago. I bought Goya olive oil and made Spaghetti al Oglio. It was WRETCHED. It was years before I even tried olive oil again. Glad I did. :D
therealchiffonade at 10:42AM on 02/03/09
once you make your own vinaigrette, you'll never go back. the basic ingredients for any vinaigrette are:
oil
acid (balsamic or other vinegar, lemon juice)
flavoring (garlic, sugar, herbs)
emulsifier (mustard)
salt & pepper
use all of these and you get a basic balsamic vinaigrette. you can find proportions in any basic cookbook, but its so simple that i usually dont even measure anymore - i just eyeball and whisk, with oil going in last so the flavors are mixed evenly. vary the acid and flavors to go with your salad. taste as you go along and adjust to your preferences. i also generally do a 2:1 oil to acid ratio because i like it tart.
you dont need really fancy olive oil for salad dressing because generally the acid can overwhelm the flavor of the oil but i would stick with virgin or better. some of the stuff labeled just olive oil can have cheaper additives in them.
kw12345 at 11:04AM on 02/03/09
i always make my own dressing, using cheap trader joe's olive oil which is perfectly fine. try experimenting with fresh or dried herbs in the base that people have already given of oil, mustard, and vinegar. i also really like adding a little bit of very finely minced garlic and a tiny bit of sugar, especially if i am using a vinegar other than balsamic. the most important thing is to dip lettuce leaves into the dressing as you are making it and taste it, and to properly salt and pepper it.
allot at 11:32AM on 02/03/09
If you didn't click on @lemons link, I urge you to go up and do it now! She has the most brilliant idea and I can't wait to try it.
@chiff ~ great advice, as always. Do you have any favorite brands that could be found in any grocery store?
PerkyMac at 11:45AM on 02/03/09
@Pumpkin - here's a thread with all kinds of brilliant dressing ideas from last year.
I'll agree with everybody else - there is nothing simpler than making your own. I may use a blender (regular or immersion) for some or a jar /shaker for others, but as @chisai said, you are absolutely fine just using a mason jar.
Posters above have given you a good advice about basic ingredients and proportions, and there is no limit to what you can do once you start playing with different oils (or a combination thereof) and vinegars (and all kinds of other stuff). Although one of my favourite dressings, that works so well with so many things consists of good olive oil, lemon juice (the usual 3-4 parts oil to 1 part acid proportions, although I often increase acid in mine) , salt, pepper and garlic. I often add minced fresh herbs. You don't need any special ingredients or equipment, and it never fails.
brooke29 at 11:54AM on 02/03/09
My mother's favorite salad dressing was vinegar and oil, and she'd simply eyeball it. Make the salad, pour on oil and vinegar separately, maybe some salt and pepper, and eat. I still do it that way if I'm particularly lazy and/or if I'm not adding any dried herbs/spices that I want to integrate into the dressing. Shaking/blending emulsifies it and makes it seem creamier, but I can remember when restaurants would bring out cruets of oil and vinegar for diners to pour on the salads. No emulsifying there. It's not wrong, it's just different.
If you don't like the taste of your olive oil, try another brand. Keep in mind that you're also going to have a strong acidic flavor, so it's not like you're drinking the olive oil.
If the olive oil has too much flavor for you, you can use another oil that you do like, either with the olive oil or alone. Walnut oil is nice, or avocado oil. Or you can go for a really mild vegetable oil that's nearly flavorless.
Cost means you're probably getting a "better" olive oil, but it doesn't mean that you'll like the flavor, so it's pretty much a matter of tasting to see what you like. There's an unfiltered olive oil that's sold in the grocery store for $8.99 a bottle that I like a lot. Don't recall the brand, but it comes in a sort of square/rectangular bottle, and it's about the only unfiltered one I've seen at grocery stores.
For your particular salad, I think that lemon would be tasty. Just use lemon juice instead of the vinegar, or mix lemon juice and wine vinegar.
If you don't like your dressing really acidic, you can either use more oil, in proportion, or add some sugar, honey, or some other sweetener. I've got a red wine/sugar reduction that I made (it's basically a wine syrup) and sometimes I'll put that on a salad along with the vinegar and oil.
If you're adding dried herbs, sometimes it's useful to put the herbs into whatever container you're making the salad in, then add just enough water to moisten them and let them sit for maybe 5 minutes to rehydrate a bit. Then add the vinegar and oil.
I usually only make enough dressing for one salad at a time, and it's different just about every day.
dbcurrie at 1:01PM on 02/03/09
I also make it one day at a time in the bowl the salad is going into. Give it a whisk and let it sit in the bottom. Toss just before serving.
You'll never buy the bottled stuff again and you'll save a lot of money even if you use fancy oils.
Blue Iris at 1:32PM on 02/03/09
@Perks - My mom always loved Bertolli and Costco has teamed up with them to offer an extra virgin OO. It's delicious and fragrant. Costco also carries a very big bottle of regular olive oil that I use for most cooking. These 2 are your best bets for well-priced olive oils. I find myself buying small bottles of specialty oils for tasting - it's more fun that way :D.
The other night, a friend of BF's from work came over and we had the most wonderful evening. Her family has an olive grove and they bottle artisan olive oils. She brought over a selection for us to try drizzled over various things and dabbed on bread. Her 95 year old uncle owns this Olive oil company and I could not believe how this stuff tasted. I think the only way to get this oil is by their website.
If you like the stuff at Carrabba's mixed with the herbs, it's by Borges. They are really tough to get ahold of an only want to sell wholesale :(.
therealchiffonade at 3:06PM on 02/03/09
This is my favorite and most simple dressing ever... and people always rave about it. Just drizzle some extra-virgin olive oil (about 2 turns of the salad bowl you have), the juice of 1/2 a lemon, salt and pepper to taste on top of your salad... toss to coat. People will rave at how delicious this is...
I prefer olive oil from Spain... I always buy extra-virgin. I do have some specialty Italian olive oils I only use to dress salads or other non-heat-involved preparations. But the best advice... TASTE THEM and see what you like. There's this store called OLIVES & CO that let you taste all their olive oils... check them out and start developing your own preference list.
Madelyn
KarmaFreeCooking
MadelynRodriguez at 3:21PM on 02/03/09
Here are a few other dressing recipes you might like...
Honey Mustard Vinaigrette
Creamy Tamari Dressing
Nicoise Vinaigrette Dressing
Mustard Vinaigrette
Citrus Ceasar Dressing
Madelyn
KarmaFreeCooking
MadelynRodriguez at 3:26PM on 02/03/09
Perky, you are too kind!
lemons at 3:36PM on 02/03/09
@lemons ~ nah - you are too brilliant! I seriously can't wait to spear a clove of garlic and mix up salad dressing, stir gravy and my Bloody Mary and anything else that would benefit from a hint of garlic flavor. I don't know if I sent anyone to your website, but it's really great and they should visit and set a spell. Seriously!
PerkyMac at 4:33PM on 02/03/09
Any of the above recipes are good. One suggestion though, why let that beautiful bacon fat go to waste!? Use it as your oil for the dressing. I know its not heart healthy but hey, its Valentines Day! And the flavor is awsome!
Cheers!
unknownchef at 7:29PM on 02/03/09
the healthiest is cold pressed. it's all i ever buy.
nutrients and taste isn't destroyed by the heat generated by other types of pressings. cold pressed is a big deal and it'll say it on the front of the label.
i also only buy extra virgin because it's the tastiest to me, especially when eaten raw (i.e. on salads, or bread).
I can't be bothered to buy a 'lesser grade' to saute with, and if i wanted to 'fry' something i'd use canola oil or something.
the thing that went wrong with your aioli wasn't so much the olive oil as it was the process of making the aioli. it was bitter, wasn't it? when you beat the crap out of delicate olive oil in a blender or food processor to make a homemade mayo, it gets really bitter. You either need to whisk it by hand (good luck with that) or use a different kind of (mild) oil.
Our very favorite dressing for baby spinach and feta salad is a garlic lemon vinagrette.
I crush (to a paste) a clove of garlic sprinkled with a few pinches of kosher salt in a mortar with a pestle... add the juice of a lemon to the mortar, add some pepper, beat with a salad fork while drizzling in some olive oil, serve over salad. (we like it really lemony so i probably do half oil and half lemon, but you decide how much oil you like)
as for your mini lesson, extra virgin is the first pressing of the olives. after that it goes to virgin, then to just olive oil. each progression is a lesser grade and less expensive and less tasty for eating raw.
that's enough info for now, i won't try to confuse you with smoke points on the different grades. just know that the more virgin the oil the quicker, it will start smoking in the pan so if you want to sear something in freakin hot pan, don't waste your good olive oil. Iem not talkin sauteing a few onions here.
nightmoon at 11:26PM on 02/04/09