Octopus: Way or No Way?
I've never had it, but I'd definitely try it if given the opportunity. I
f you've had it, can you give us an idea of what it is like, texture and taste? Favorite ways to cook and serve it? Is there an environmental reason it is so rarely on the menu in seafood restaurants?
Since I'd love to try it, I'm pretty sure I'd be a Way.
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37 Comments:
Yes way! At it's best, it's tender but has a bit of a resilient abalone-like chew. Its sweet, a little briny, and mild and takes to many different kinds of flavors.
The suction cups are also a little crunchy for some textural interest XD
I like it in sushi, its also very nice grilled over charcoal. Also its great in cioppino or gumbo. In some seafood markets you can get the itty bitty ones that are much more tender. Just throw them whole into your soup!
I couldn't tell you why its not on restaurant menus more, maybe the chefs assume the clientele isn't up for octopus, yet.
fuuchan at 11:47PM on 02/07/09
Way, definately, and squid as well. Just got back from a big seafood party at my friends house tonight. My contribution was squid, shrimp, onion rings, fries, and dill pickles, all deep fryed in my fryer. Everything there turned out good. My wife tried a new crab cake recipe from Martha Stewart that was delicious. I really hate cleaning that deepfryer though, and it is rarely used.
I love octopuss but really have not had it much lately, or ever for that matter.
whatseatingme at 12:01AM on 02/08/09
Oops forgot,
The texture can be a bit like squid but not as chewy, and it has a very mild flavor like squid. If you were to puree it and make cakes with it you could use any good crab cake recipe. This would also make it less rubbery. If you desire the chewy experience, deep fry it in Drake's mix and serve it with a sauce of your liking. I agree wtih fuuchan in that it takes to many flavors. I don't know if I could compare it to abalone though. I have only eaten abalone one time, recently, while on vacation in Monterey CA.
I ordered it from an appetizer menu without first looking at the price. When the server brought it out, he said "enjoy, it's a delicasy" Holy crap the stuff is expensive. 32 dollars for a cake about the size of a silver dollar. I don't remember exactly what it tasted like (I was in shock after looking back at the menu after the "delicasy" comment) but I did like it.
whatseatingme at 12:18AM on 02/08/09
Way!! I had grilled octopus on my honeymoon in Athens, Greece. It was a simple dish of grilled octopus and olives, but very memorable. This was before the Euro and was very cheap payng in Drachmas. I wish I could re-create it.
svl1031 at 12:51AM on 02/08/09
I have had calimari and octopus quite a few times. When it's cooked right, it's tender, juicy and tasty. I only get this when I go to the coast...San Francisco, or my favorite place...Monterey. You can't get better seafood then on the coast Here in the valley, it is tough chewy, slimy and fishy...Gross!
lamora at 12:52AM on 02/08/09
*WAY* @ octopus, squid, and now scungilli [conch]. I have to admit that I had never had scungilli until I visited my mother last month. She ordered it one night when we went out for dinner, and offered me some. Though it's apparently very easy to cook these things to a rubbery consistency, I found these - which had been added to a tomato sauce, which was then served over linguini - quite delicate and tasty. (Very slow and gentle reheating works well too - like a microwave power level 2 - but anything fast tends to rubberize them as well.)
Robbo at 12:57AM on 02/08/09
Way! A couple of years ago, at a friend's wedding in Honolulu, I was treated to fresh octopus. The beast had literally been caught that morning, and the bride's mother showed me how to "de-beak" (removing a vicious-looking mouth and teeth!) and dress the octopus. It was huge! The whole octopus was thrown onto the grill, right after the hamburgers and sausages! :D
The texture was very much like abalone, or thick calamari steaks, and I found the flavor very mild, which lent itself well to the charcoal grill. It had a "fresh-from-the-sea" essence, which was wonderful.
I would definitely eat it again!
hungryinhouston at 1:14AM on 02/08/09
Way! I only had it once, when I was in Greece (Rhodes), it was grilled and absolutely scrumptious! It was indeed somewhat reminiscent of thick calamari steaks, like @hungryinhouston says.
brooke29 at 1:54AM on 02/08/09
Nope. Nothing with suckers for me thanks.
bisbee at 3:59AM on 02/08/09
A drunken haiku for Perky:
Tentacled freaky
monster, I do not
want you on my plate.
Cheers!
Bisbee
bisbee at 4:01AM on 02/08/09
Both. I can't eat the sucker things. They creep me out and, texturally, I hate them. So for the suckers - no way. But for the rest of the thing, definitely way. It's tender, chewy, mild. I've never made it so have no awesome recipes to impart, but I've had it as sushi, and I've had it grilled and dressed w/olive oil and garlic and OMG it was good. It's one of those foods that I enjoy, but don't exactly seek out.
chisai at 7:53AM on 02/08/09
The tentacled freaky monster a la "Bisbee" is really good!!
I love it grilled and dressed with olive oil--oh so good!
I also love it steamed & in a good rich spicy fra diavolo ---MMMMM
Italiancupcake at 8:22AM on 02/08/09
NO Way.....tryed it in Spain just couldn't get over the texture thing..
Markbb at 9:38AM on 02/08/09
@bisbee ~ so very clever! You win ahhhh..........great acclaim! Yeah, that's the ticket. TYVM!!!
I love calamari. Haven't had scungilli either. I thought conch were protected, or is it just from shell seekers?
@hungryinhouston ~ "de-beak" ~ yikes!
PerkyMac at 9:42AM on 02/08/09
Way. Steamed w/o any seasoning, there's nothing incredibly discernable one would taste to dislike.
I've had it at Japanese (topping on sushi, grilled, with scallops), Greek (smoked, grilled, and served w/ olive oil), Korean (fried in gochujang and in kimchi jjigae), and Italian (school lunch as cioppino - w/ scallops, crab, mussels, and shrimp) style.
I've noticed the eww-ness factor is that it's...octopus, and next, the texture as has been described above. When I tell someone I've eaten octopus and get that "eww" reaction, I always ask them if they've ever had it. 9/10 have never had it but can't get over that it's octopus (same with squid and eel). 1/10 complain abt the texture.
I think it's the demand and what part of the country that dictates the "delicacy" (price). I've noticed that it's readily available in large Greek, Asian, Puerto Rican, and Italian populations, so it's pretty cheap in those areas so it's not treated as a delicacy. Of course, going to a pricey restaurant = $$$.
In Hawaii, you can find them raw at any old grocery store cheap. In Cleveland, I have to go to certain communities to get them fairly inexpensively at chain grocery stores. CLE has a large pockets of Greeks, Italians, and Puerto Ricans. All fishmongers carry octopus here.
If you'd like to try it for the first time, I think the safest way is in cioppino or as kimchi jjigae or nakji bokum (in gochujang), only because it's not the headliner where you're left with an entire dish uneaten because of its existence. It may be hard to fish them all out in a jjigae though. Grilled, smoked octopus at Greek restaurants as an appetizer is my favorite preparation.
Cassaendra at 9:43AM on 02/08/09
Way - I love it as tako su, a salad with seaweed, cucumber and ponzu. My favorite Asian restaurant also does a salad of meltingly tender baby octopus (including the heads, cleaned and debeaked) with a sweet chile dressing which is pretty awesome too.
Octopus is one of those things, like squid, where you cook it for 2 minutes or over an hour. When stewed for a long time on low heat the octopus becomes incredibly tender, which removes a lot of the textural issue that some have.
Amandarama at 9:56AM on 02/08/09
Once, I opened up the refrigerator of my home as a tiny girl to see a large jar with an intact purple octopus floating in it, like a lab specimen. My father, who never cooked, but grew up on octopus in Greece as a child had brought it home from the fish market. My mouth hung open, still filled with the fried clams that had been the purpose of his journey.
My mother had no idea how to cook it and there it sat, floating, its sad little suction cups pressed against the glass for a long, long time.
So, no, unless I purchase as a salt water aquarium at some point!
HeartofGlass at 10:18AM on 02/08/09
WAY! I traveled to Greece last year, where it is very popular grilled with just olive oil, salt and pepper and served with fresh lemon juice. The texture is less chewy than squid- more meat-like. Flavor is light and fresh. On the other hand, frozen octopus can be a disaster- chewy and flavorless, so if you're going to try it, make sure it's fresh and prepared well.
jammin83 at 10:25AM on 02/08/09
I highly recommend TAKOYAKI!
hmw0029 at 11:26AM on 02/08/09
LOL I was hoping no one would mention takoyaki. :x
Warning -- just don't eat a whole box of them while on a day trip...
Cassaendra at 11:32AM on 02/08/09
Second the recommendation for takoyaki. Best eaten fresh and hot. :)
Skythe at 11:36AM on 02/08/09
Way! I've had it grilled and it was so good, very tender and no strong taste... was so yummy. I had it last summer in KC at Lidia's place. Highly recommend.
Alm25 at 12:03PM on 02/08/09
Way. Grilled and seasoned with lemon and butter. Or as an ingredient in cioppino.
@Alm25: Lidia's in Pittsburgh also makes a great cioppino with octopus. Delicious.
Susquehanna at 12:46PM on 02/08/09
@perky~ no way!! the suckers gross me out. i have friends that like to make salads with it and they hang the legs out of their mouths. i'd rather eat liverworst.
dearrie at 12:50PM on 02/08/09
@Alm25: Ah. Just learned that I ate zuppe di pesce and not cioppino at Lidia's. Checked the menu and looked up the difference . . . which is that cioppino originated in San Francisco and usually has fish that are native to the Pacific. They're similar, though. Whatever, right? We love the octopus.
Susquehanna at 1:07PM on 02/08/09
@lamora--the Valley? I'm in Hanford, where are you?
And to octopus--No Way!! I don't like clams or mussels and can barely tolerate scallops (sooo easy to cook them wrong), and therefore am not the least bit interested in trying octopus.
buffy at 1:25PM on 02/08/09
So Way....Boiled, then while still warm coated with olive oil, lemon juice and maybe a little dried oregano. Toss with diced celery, carrot, red onion - LUNCH (and real low carbs).
thegoch at 1:29PM on 02/08/09
I've never tried it, but am definitely interested in doing so.
Steen at 1:39PM on 02/08/09
Totally way. Grilled tentacles brushed with olive oil and a squeeze of lemon--divine!
FoodieSearching at 2:06PM on 02/08/09
I confess I am a "queasy" eater and anything like organ meat or off beat things like, octopus, frog's legs, alligator, bugs, snake, prairie oysters, tripe, or sweetbread has never passed my lips - I am envious of those who have to moxy to step right up and try it. The only thing I will eat is escargot - why that is different to me, I can't tell you!
bareneed at 2:13PM on 02/08/09
Way! Octopus is delicious. Its almost like squid...but not as chewy. The little whole ones are the best, I think. Try them out in a soup or in a tomato sauce over some pasta; you'll love it!
ruthbleu at 2:21PM on 02/08/09
@Cassaendra- hm I'm guessing there was something wrong with the takoyaki you ate... because people I know (and I) can easily eat a whole box without any problem :-)
hmw0029 at 4:27PM on 02/08/09
@buffy...Merced...glad to meet someone 'close by'.
lamora at 11:07PM on 02/08/09
way to pieces of larger octopus. no way to baby octopus.
blizcheetah at 12:31AM on 02/09/09
For me NO WAY- it's a texture thing.
@Cassaendra- Did you ever have dried octopus chips in Japan? My BF keeps talking about eating this when he was a kid and spent 2 years in Tokyo (in the 1950's).
This is for the BF because he has had a craving for octopus for weeks now and we had to find a place that served it to rid his craving. We found a brand new Greek restaurant but was served as a appetizer not as an entree.
pjracz10 at 4:06AM on 02/09/09
Way! Love it. Grilled Greek octo is wonderful and I love my Christmas Eve Salad with octopus. As long as you boil it to within an inch of its life, it's tender - then you can springboard off many flavor combos.
chiff0nade at 6:49AM on 02/09/09
@hmw0029: Haha - I think it was actually a combo of reasons that still make me weak in the knees when I think about takoyaki and extended to okonomiyaki. I was in a car for several hours riding around the island (Okinawa) siteseeing en route to a picnic and hoarded the whole box to myself while my cousin's son was staring at me; gorged on the sauce; and the onset of an illness (y'know, it really could have been bad takoyaki) that left me with the runs for 2 whole weeks.
@pjracz10: Yes! I love octopus, squid, and shrimp chips!! My husband doesn't like the smell of those chips, as well as squid, cuttlefish, and octopus jerky, so I don't get to eat them very often. :P
Cassaendra at 7:54AM on 02/09/09