Shun or Global?
I am currently stuck deciding between getting an 8 inch shun or global chefs knife. I have talked to many food network chefs and they all said it was personal preference but if they had to they would pick shun. I like the feel of both knives but am wondering which is better quality and holds the sharpness longer.HELP PLEASE....
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24 Comments:
I've never tried Shun, so I can't speak to them, but I have a 7" Global vegetable knife that I LOVE. I like to get my Wusthofs sharpened every 6 months, but the Global usually only needs it once a year. It really holds an edge.
suthungirl at 7:32PM on 01/08/09
I think the blade quality is comparable. It comes down to whether you want a weighty or light handle. I love the weightiness of my Shun because it helps me break down chickens and do other hefty work. The handle of the Global will not give you so much power.
Michele Humes at 7:33PM on 01/08/09
@suthungirl -- No blade, Global or Shun, can hold an edge for a year. I use a stone every two weeks or so.
Michele Humes at 7:36PM on 01/08/09
That's true, Michele - my Wusthof is much weightier than the Global, so I tend to use the Global when I have a lot of veggies and herbs to prep. The lighter weight makes it seem like not-so-much effort.
suthungirl at 7:40PM on 01/08/09
@Michele - I'm bad enough at filing my own nails -- I don't trust myself to use a stone! But it really does seem to stay sharp. Granted, I don't use it as much as my other knives anymore.
suthungirl at 7:56PM on 01/08/09
Yeah, they are very much the same besides the weight. I would guess the Global is a little cheaper. Both have excellent blades. I perfer the power behind a weightier knife but in my experience the Shun doesn't weigh that much more, not like a Wusthof or anything...
sailordave at 7:57PM on 01/08/09
@sailordave - You're right: the Shun is not really that heavy. But it still feels far more substantial to me than the Global, which is light as air. Of course, I'm a girl with skinny wrists :)
Michele Humes at 8:17PM on 01/08/09
Knives are tools. Everyone likes different ones. You need to grab one and feel it in your hand. I have lots of knives but only really use about 3 for meal prep with no special tasks. I feel knives before I buy them.
If you cannot feel it then don't buy it. A name is not a grip. I have a whole lot of japanese knives I bought 7 years ago and they are great in my hand. The name? I have no idea since I do not read Japanese. But the full tang and contoured grip wins every time.
Go to a store that sells knives and touch them.
JerzeeTomato at 9:16PM on 01/08/09
You talked to many food network chefs? In what capacity? I'm intrigued.
I own neither, so have no opinion on the knives.
PerkyMac at 10:08PM on 01/08/09
I love Shun knives. I have a 10" chef knife and a paring knife that I use all the time. They need a steel every now and then, and yearly sharpening (take it to a pro if you're not sure how to use a stone). I've used a friend's Global knives, and they just felt wrong in my hands.
But really, it depends on which feels better for you. Depending on which model you get, the steel will have different hardness, different shape, different bevel, different grip, etc. Go to a cooking store with a good selection and ask to try it out. Lots of places will let you chop celery and give you knife skill tips while you're there.
butterface at 10:36PM on 01/08/09
@michele, i have an eight inch wusthof that i steel whenever i think of it. i took it to get sharpened for the first time after owning it for a year and a half, and the sharpener {whom i have known for 30 years and has been a professional sharpener all that time} gave it a very quick rub on the stone and said it was just fine.
cybercita at 10:55PM on 01/08/09
I have a Global Santoku that I've been very pleased with; it feels like an extension of my hand. But I don't use it for splitting bones as I rarely have occasion to.
That said, I do enjoy the bulbous grip of the Shun Fusion knives. If I had a few hundred to blow on a knife, I'd probably go back to the shop and play with 'em a bit more. (In terms of heft, they feel more like my old Wustof, but with more elegant handling.)
If you're based in NYC, try paying a visit to the Korin shop downtown. They're a pro-supplier of Japanese knives and Western-style Japanese knives and have a fairly extensive selection. I've had my eye trained on their Misono UX10 line as well: http://www.korin.com/models.php?cat=54&subcat=41&subsubcat=46&df=knife&catname=Western+Style&subcatname=Misono&subsubcatname=No.1!+Misono+UX10
Tam Ngo at 11:32PM on 01/08/09
I've never used a Shun, so I can't comment on that. Global knives hold an edge nicely, even when used in a professional kitchen, but are way too light for me and I find the metal handle gets very slippery. I like a sturdy wooden handle like on a Wusthof or my ancient Henckel's that I have sharpened once a year. The wooden handle also seems to help me chop better and more comfortably with the rheumatoid arthritis that has recently found me at 36 years old. *grumbles* But, you have to try knives out for yourself. The food network chefs didn't tell you that?? :)
scarletini at 11:47PM on 01/08/09
My main kitchen knives are Globals and Shuns. I love Global because I do feel like the blade holds up better, but it's light, really light. The Shuns aren't much heavier esp compared to a Wusthof, but there is a difference you will definitely feel when using. Best thing to do is test them out.
I am a petite person and when I'm facing a lot of stuff to cut, I do wish I had a heavier knife, but for most times (ie. cooking dinner for fam), I'm happy with my light knives. If it's cutting through bone that you want to do, go get a meat cleaver from Chinatown. $5 will buy a great one for that type of stuff.
tinat at 11:52PM on 01/08/09
Ditto to Jerzee's comment. I have two Globals and a Shun, though my 8in chef knife is a Wusthof. Find out your knife store's return policy. Buy a knife, try it for a few days and if it really doesn't feel right, exchange it for a different one.
Kerosena at 1:27AM on 01/09/09
I have some of both. The quality is almost equal, but I liked the Global flexible boning knife better than the Shun equivalent. However, if someone tried to take my Shun 8in chef's knife from me, I'd chop them up (with that same knife) and serve them as stew. :)
beth1 at 1:40AM on 01/09/09
We just got shuns for Christmas and are in love. While I would reccomend them, you really have to feel for yourself. Get it in your hands before you make a decision.
annabanannas at 9:09AM on 01/09/09
One person's knife thrill is another person's nightmare.
Everyone who said "feel the knife" is right on the money.
I LOVE my Shun knives, and the sharpness seems to last forever (well, nothing really lasts forever, but ya know what I mean)
I have small hands and found that a knife I almost didn't buy is the one I use most for chopping... the Shun utility knife, which is really just a small chef's knife.
I do like the offset grip on the Shun Ken Onions, but not everyone is comfortable with that sort of handle.
I have a beautiful set of Westhofs that I never use anymore now that I am stuck on Shun. But if Global feels better in your hand, it is a quality knife and you should go with it.
terigo at 10:29AM on 01/09/09
I don't have any Shun knives, but I absolutely love my Globals. They have served their country and my kitchen very, very well. They are deadly sharp, hold an edge very well, are comfortable to use. The seamless all-metal construction is really nice, as you don't have to worry about the handles. Then again, the resin-impregnated Shun handles are probably pretty low-maintenance.
I say get both. ;-)
jsdawson at 2:23PM on 01/09/09
I second Tam's comment. The conclusion that I've come to after reading numerous of message boards and visiting various knife shops is that Globals and Shuns are decent tools but they are generic and mass manufactured.
As mentioned, Korin has an great selection of Japanese steel. I personally would take a single Nenohi Nenox, Kramer or even a Tojiro over a full set of Globals or Shuns. Knives are like timepieces--they're something that should carry far importance than purely functionality. There's a good reason why you won't find Globals or Shuns at Korin.
Fooded7, I know that doesn't help you decided between Global or Shun, but Korin is definitely worth a visit.
highmtn at 1:23AM on 01/10/09
When it comes to chef knives I prefer Global knives. I have been using mine for over 2 years now and it has still maintain its sharpness. I also have Steak Knife Sets from them which I love, to me they are more durable than korin and I have tried some others as well.
They are very comfortable to use and the all-metal construction is really nice, plus they look great in my kitchen.
chef knives at 9:58PM on 03/30/09
One thing I see not addressed here is the difference between Shun classic and Shun elite. I have had significant exposure to both lines and the Globals. Everyone is correct in saying that the final decision should be made by your hand, but the best steel is the shun elite as far as edge retention is concerned. Anyone who has invested in these high end knives would do best to learn about sharpening them or his or her hard-earned money is only effective for that first month after the "yearly" sharpening. I sharpen professionally and know what these knives are capable of. Using them without honing for long periods of time is like pushing your bmw to the supermarket.
braden at 8:34PM on 04/30/09
I'm a Global user myself and wouldn't switch for all the Sake in Japan! I myself love the lightweight of the Global knives and the good balance they have. In my experience the Global knives hold an edge really well but I wouldn't use a sharpening steel on them only ceramic sharpening stones or waterstones.
GlobalKnifeSet at 12:38AM on 10/19/09
You can learn a bit more about the Global knives here: www.globalknifeset.com
GlobalKnifeSet at 12:39AM on 10/19/09