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How Does the FDA Warning Against Peanut Butter Affect You?

It's all over the front pages, the FDA is saying untill they know more, to stay away from all peanut butter, including in baked goods. Keebler removed some cracker snaks voluntarily just yesterday. How is this affecting you? I'm seriously debating throwing out the 2 full jars I have in the pantry, and the one I've got open. Peanut butter is a major protein source for me. Will you throw yours out or will you wait for more information? I'm thinking seriously of just throwing it out and starting to make my own in the food processor. how about you?

71 Comments:

I am keeping my peanut butter, I've already had half the jar and I'm not sick. I think the main products affected are the ones with peanut butter in them, and I don't buy processed stuff like that. If worse comes to worse, I bought a bag of peanuts yesterday and they can become nut butter.

quote from the NYTimes:

Federal health officials on Saturday urged consumers to avoid eating cookies, cakes, ice cream and other foods that contain peanut butter until the authorities can learn more about a deadly outbreak of salmonella contamination.

Most peanut butter sold in jars at supermarkets appears to be safe, said Stephen Sundlof, head of the Food and Drug Administration’s food safety center.

I've got 2 jars opened, one is a natural pb, the other is regular Jif. Have eaten from both of them, so I intend to finish them. I still haven't bought any PeterPan brand since the last peanut butter scare though.

i just bought a jar of peter pan friday. i've eaten from it about 5 times and i am fine.

i also drink the tap water so maybe i toxic anyway.lol..

Have a large jar and will finish it as we have eaten from it already and survived the experience. Will buy more in the jar and stay away from the add in items which is usually crap anyway.

I smeared peanut butter on a banana for breakfast this morning, and ate it about 15 minutes after seeing that story on the morning news.

According to the news this morning, jarred peanut butter is fine as it is processed in a controlled environment.

It is the snack foods, where bulk peanut butter is used in numerous products.

So, I am good to go!

Although I've been known to enjoy peanut butter in smoothies, on pancakes and even burgers (fo' real!), I'm not all that fond of peanut butter snacks. I don't care for peanut butter cookies, for example, nor do I buy any candy with peanut butter, such as Reese's. And I think those crackers with the peanut butter in-between are vile, although I remember eating a few Ritz crackers with peanut butter as a kid.

If my peanut butter in a jar is fine, as it should be since I bought a few jars of organic peanut butter months ago, then I feel pretty safe. I may be disinclined to eat peanut butter from another source, though, like at a restaurant or sandwich shop.

Uh, oh. I wonder if Girl Scout Cookie sales will go down or if people will just buy something other than peanutbutter and still try to support the young ladies?

I am waiting to see what happens to all of you within the next few days ;)

Seriously, it won't affect me because I am not in 'peanut butter mode'--usually when I am I buy natural stuff in jar form.

For those of you with snacks and unopened jars who are still worried, you can probably return them for a refund--or exchange them for cashew, almond, or other nut butters and products.

I buy peanut butter about twice a year. The jar we have is from November and I baked cookies with it. No one got sick and I doubt it is affected.
We don't eat peanut butter so if they decide all peanut butter is bad I think those who eat it should move to another nut butter or to a brand that is made by a company that makes it's own and that is not mass produced.
Another thought is buy from a stores that carry natural organic handmade peanut butter.
If you want to be sure it is safe make it yourself. Buy some good raw peanuts, roast them and salt them as you wish and then run them through the food processor. You will know that it is good.

I don't eat peanut butter but maybe once a year at the sandwich shop a few houses away -- it's one of three sandwiches I order from them (peanut butter, banana, and honey sammich). However, I give my dog peanut butter as a treat. We just bought a jar of peanut butter from Target yesterday. As it is jarred, it's presumably safe, so I'm not THAT concerned.

I read the warning carefully, and it applies to manufactured, processed foods that contain peanut butter – not to jars of peanut butter – so I'm good. We mainly eat peanut butter with sliced apples, anyhow, so one jar lasts a long time.

Of course, this is the first I've heard of it. I have 2 big, open jars, so I'm sure those are fine. And I have 4 more (all huge) in the pantry. I bought them at the same time when I was making cookies. I guess I'll just keep an eye out and see what brands and time periods are affected. No peanut butter snacks until it's figured out though.
Thanks honeybumper.

I rarely buy PB (probably once a year or so), and if I do, it's Wegman's organic. I used one jar back in late November to make a peanut butter mousse pie, the other one is still in the cupboard (and I'm going to make those PB cookies courtesy of chiff's brother). We were fine after the pie, so I'm not going to think twice before I use the remaining jar. I'm quite certain we're safe.

I just bought a jar of peanut butter yesterday. Does anyone have a link to the article in question? I'm off to Google it now ..

The tainted peanut butter is the stuff that's going to restaurant-supply warehouses and the like, not Skippy. It doesn't affect me in the least.

It doesn't affect us.

I have a sudden craving for those peanut butter sandwiches with the toasty crackers. Why doesn't anyone sell those crackers sans filling? Or do they?

They don't sell those orange "cheese" crackers separately, either, but the toasty ones are actually good.

Article doesn't mention Hershey's, so I will continue to finish off the Reeses from Christmas.

Um, I should just throw this 'general food poisoning factoid' out there--although I don't think it really applies to this situation--just because 'you' don't contract salmonella symptoms doesn't mean you haven't been exposed. It's perfectly possible to consume something with salmonella and show no symptoms, while someone else with a greater susceptibility (compromised immune system, youth, old age, or just a different metabolism) might fall ill.

Outside of this particular recall, it's just an important thing to remember--for example, if you eat out at a restaurant and one of your family falls ill, you all may have eaten the 'offending' substance.

I've heard this before, and 'checked' the Mayo clinic site before I posted my little annoying and overly serious note:

"If you have intestinal salmonella and you have a healthy immune system, you may not seem ill or show signs or symptoms. However, you may continue to shed the bacteria in your feces and remain contagious for up to a year:
Source: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/salmonella/DS00926/DSECTION=symptoms

Not affecting me at all.

@heart~ eeewwwwwww.

I have an autoimmune disorder. But death by peanut butter? Worth it!

yeah, that's actually NOT what the FDA said. way to sound the alarm bell, though.
"The FDA said its warning does not include peanut butter sold in jars, such as Jif or Peter Pan, which the agency said is safe to eat"

THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE.

Okay, I understand the concern--if you haven't had a bad case of 'sal&ella" then perhaps you might not understand fully just how miserable or for some how dangerous it actually is. I am talking about blood and stool tested confirmed cases, rather than "I have an upset stomach so it's gotta be..."
No, there shouldn't be a panic, but for those of us who just happen to have loved ones who dine in "institutional settings," hospitals, nursing homes, prisons, and college dining halls, etc.; I do think this is valid concern. Not a panic button to press, but at least a valid desrving attention. Here's the latest thing I've found from the FDA regarding this specific food safety issue:
http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/salmonellatyph.html

My grocery store has a PB grinder thingy which uses organic peanuts. I think I'm okay.

I, of course, just bought a carton of haagen-dazs chocolate peanut butter ice cream. I'll leave it in the freezer until this whole thing settles down...

i switched to sunflower seed butter. i like the taste better and there's no aflatoxins or mold as far as i know.

I work as a manager in the patient food services in a large hospital. We had to pull all individual peanut butter packages as well as all PB&J sandwiches from all of the units. The individual peanut butter packages ended up in our office.... I took the individual peanut butter packages and used them to dunk the minature leftover Christmas chocolate into.... feeling fine.

(FYI, not directed at all at huneybumper.) If you're going to quote a particular source, especially within quotation marks, it might be helpful to include a valid reference for readers to access. Otherwise, this perhaps valid and pertinent information may be misconstrued as yet another internet mess of whoever, no references required, can post whatever "expert" urban myth or any myth they please, regardless of facts and/or truth.

In the scheme of things, the "peanut butter crisis" points to the ineptitude of the bifurcated food regulation system in our country --national food safety is split between the FDA and the Department of Agriculture, with less than effective results.

Nevertheless, I'm eating my peanut butter --organic by the way, and feeling good about it. Though I could be completely fooling myself in thinking that it's safer because it's is organic as I haven't seen scientific evidence indicating this to be the case.

Cheers to PB.

Just saying - one more good reason to grind your own peanut butter at your local co-op.

@dhorst--the Mayo Clinic is a reputable source regarding medical issues.

I did include a link to the site, and if an individual feels that it is not valid, they are certainly free to ignore it.

I didn't include it in reference to the peanut butter epidemic specifically, but just a warning that the idea that if you feel fine after eating ANY product that you might be worried about regarding salmonella, that doesn't mean it is okay for everyone.

Regarding the recall specific to peanut butter, I would certainly advise everyone to consult specific information regarding the recall regarding what brands and products are affected.

And I would just like to add if you look at the information I posted, it was only about exposure to salmonella in general, nothing about whether jars were or were not affected .I really feel the nasty comments directed against me are unfair.

@heart, wasn't directed at you either, you were smart enough to link us to your source and I did check it out, certainly reputable and I'm sorry if you thought it was directed at you. I was thinking about the "THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE," comment. If you check out my previous post, it linked directly to the FDA rather than dmarina's quote that didn't have at least have a source mentioned. It's a sensitve issue for me due to the fact that I couldn't work in the food industry for more than two months, due to the fact that I tested positive for the darn thing after eating at a place for munchies and a beer with my husband. I was so friggin' sick for three plus weeks. I did lose more than twenty pounds, but it's just not the way to do it. And iron gut husband did not get sick despite eating the same thing, unlike the 219 cases that included me and ended up in the restaurants closure. At least I didn't work at the place. So heartofglass I wasn't stepping on your toes, and now I feel bad that you felt my comments were directed at you. : (

@cybercita - I have tried sunflower seed butter but just can't get into it - what brand do you buy? Great nutritional profile, so I would definitely try it again.

The discussion of whether jarred peanut butter is included or not reminds me of the e.coli spinach outbreak of a few years back. While the only spinach affected was that processed in a certain facility in California (admittedly, a huge facility that got its paws on most bagged baby spinach brands), farmers here in NY state saw people bypassing their locally-grown spinach, and I spoke to a few farmers who had had to plow their spinach under because the restaurants they sold produce to took all the spinach dishes off the menu.

Spinach grown in NY state, and in fact any unprocessed spinach grown and purchased locally anywhere in the country, were not susceptible to the e.coli outbreak that originated from that facility, but consumers heard "don't eat spinach" and so they didn't.

Recall language tends to err on the side of safety, which I suppose is better than the other way around, but the take-home message from most of the pieces I've read about the peanut butter recall is "avoid peanut butter," not specifically "avoid processed foods made with peanut butter," and memories of the Peter Pan recall only fan the fire.

However, the more recalls that occur, the more US consumers will become more aware of where their food comes from - we can only hope - and if our new president can make sure the COOL law the Bush administration ignored (despite its passing) is allowed to be effective, we'll be in better shape.

@dhorst--I'm sorry if I was oversensitive, as well!

I too like you (like so many people I'm sure) have been affected by food poisoning--my younger sister was in the hospital for a month touch-and-go when she was a baby, because she got ecoli by eating tainted ground meat at a restaurant. My father and stepmother were unaffected, even though they ate the same food. The doctors didn't suspect that she had food poisoning at first, (even though she had a scary high temperature) because no one else in the family was ill, and the reason that she was sick for so long is because they didn't give her antibiotics quickly. Of course, everyone who had eaten there 'had it,' they found out later, but the bacteria had more of an effect on a small child. Ironically, if everyone had gotten 'a little bit sick' they probably would have been clued into what was the cause of her illness.

It was many years ago--again, an unrelated illness-but it shows how hard it can be to identify what is the source of contamination.

And yipes--20 lbs. It is sad how food can be such a 'friend' to us all but can really 'bite back' if it isn't taken care of properly.

@producestories: I agree it can be difficult to balance fanning the flames of paranoia versus responsible language. Especially since the illness is so difficult to track--I remember that awhile ago there was a 'Taco Bell onion' scare and I think later they weren't even sure if they ever had found the source.

I think part of the sensitivity all of us feel about the issue, too, is that peanut butter is often fed to children who can be more at risk for manifesting the most deadly symptoms, so it's only natural to be a little bit more paranoid. Plus the fact that there was a Peter Pan jarred peanut butter scare earlier doesn't help matters.

Just one more reason to get off our dependency on agri-business. How is this not getting totally ridiculous?

The warnings give me a craving for Peanut Butter. I'm sure our jars are fine, so I'm going to eat them anyway. Right now, in fact.

Oh, no, Little Debbie has been affected now by this too:
http://www.littledebbie.com/about/news.asp

Thank god the Nutty Bars aren't part of the problem. Thought maybe I'd poisoned the kids.

@heart--still friends? ; )

@cookingbooks--valid point there!

@dhorst--oh definitely! Anyone who is willing to brave the chills of upstate NY (you're in Syracuse, aren't you) and still cook killer food--has a zillion tough cool chick points in my book!

It's crazy how a problem with one factory can spiral in its effects upon so many other products and areas of the nation--I agree @cookingbooks!

I just got back from the grocery store, where I debated purchasing some PB&J "uncrustables." I decided they are convenient, but silly. I had no idea they are deadly. I haven't seen the news in a couple of days!

Producestories, i was also reminded of the spinach recall, for different reasons. A lot of posters on this thread seem to put confidence in the fact that their peanut butter is organic, forgetting that the spinach recall started with organic spinach (irrigation run-off or some such).


Of course, as pointed out above, any jarred peanut butter is supposed to be safe, whether it's organic or it's by Peter Pan.

So yeah, as many have mentioned, this particular recall seems to be exemplifying a lot of common misconceptions and mutations of information.

@ everyone - I wish you the best of health; good luck to you all--stay strong!

@dhorst, don't be ridiculous. i'm not writing a term paper. and, are you saying that i am incorrect? i'd be happy to link to my sources if you'll stop your whining.
guess what? EVERYONE has had to deal with foodbourne illness; that's the reality in this country presently. i, too, have been afflicted with it and lost time working at the restaurant i was employed. i don't know what any of this has to do with me not quoting my source. here it is from my morning paper the other day:
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/01/18/peanut0118.html
now, let's move on to more exciting things.

Actually dmarina, if you click on the link you posted and then further read about the Little Debbie recall regarding the peanut butter issue, you will find this statement:

"Most peanut butter sold in jars at supermarkets appears to be safe, the Food and Drug Administration said Saturday":

And personally, I have a problem with the very first word. "Most" is not something i'm willing to take a chance on.

Thanks for the link - i'm definately staying away from ALL peanut butter for a while - guess it can't hurt!

I LOVE my Peanut Butter!!! Will not give up my Jif! I currently have 2 jars open since I have to have creamy and extra crunchy at all times. You just never know which one you want, you know? :)

Good thing I don't have to worry.

I am at the bottom of a jar which hasn't killed anyone yet.  But the
frightened mother in me is going to buy something-else butter for
a while because if anything happened I would have to jump off
of the highest structure I could find.

@dmarina -- "tis the season for botulism!"
http://bittersoursalty.blogspot.com/

Perhaps that is more exciting for you, but sorry, it's just not for me.

And maybe you would like to comfort the families who may have lost loved ones due to this food bourne illness with, "EVERYONE has had to deal with foodbourne illness; that's the reality in this country presently."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-01-19-peanut-butter-problems_N.htm Lord knows that would have boosted my husband's spirits when I was hospitalized at 89 lbs on a 5'7" frame due to that whiney situation.

@floridayaya -- I agree with "most" nd also "appears. Sorry for whining here, but we have immuno compromised systems here, in particular my youngest son. A hospital stay is one thing I'd like to avoid for anyone. And so, I agree with @cookingbooks--it's time for a change.

@Butrflygirly--my youngest loves a grilled, crunchy Jiff peanutbutter sandwich. It's his idea of nirvana.

For what its worth, some jars of peanut butter were recalled, but they were jars usually used in restaurants, school cafeterias, hospitals and nursing homes.

"An Ohio-based food distributor has voluntarily recalled two brands of peanut butter after it was told salmonella found in an open five-pound tub sold under the King Nut label.

King Nut Cos, in a statement released Saturday, said it immediately contacted its customers and asked them to remove all King Nut peanut butter and Parnell's Pride peanut butter from the market.

The Solon, Ohio-based King Nut supplies peanut butter to food service companies that distribute the products to institutions like hospitals, schools, restaurants and nursing homes. The brands are not sold directly to consumers.
....


On Friday, Minnesota health officials issued a product alert for King Nut brand creamy peanut butter after finding a jar that was contaminated with a strain of salmonella linked to an outbreak across the United States."

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE5090HM20090111

So the 'jarring' of pb doesn't eliminate the contagion, apparently, just commercial brands aren't flagged right now, but the fact that some jars are affected is why the FDA is advising people to avoid the products.

As a side note, it's really sad that the brand is used by people who can be most affected by the illness.

what scares me the most is the fact that peanuts are used in so many things, as anyone with nut allergies can tell you, they sometimes seem like they are everywhere. Even though the jarred pb's for home use havent been recalled, I tossed mine and started roasting and grinding my own nut butters, I just cant take the chance. I'm glad everyone else feels confident, I've just spent to long trying to stay alive, and what may be just an inconvience to some people could kill me quite easily. Besides my own tastes better anyway. ;-)

@dhorst: I am so sorry to hear about your illness. I hope there are no residual affects! Your son is quite right. That is heaven. Sooo very good. But then again, I love anything that has to do with Jif Peanut Butter. It's the best.

That's right, I said it. And I grew up with the All Natural stuff too. And I don't feel guilty about it. :-)

All Lara bars and Clif bars with peanut butter in them have been recalled. Of course I just bought a bunch yesterday, THEN got home and read about it. Sigh.

Mnemosyne, you probably already know this, but on the slightest chance of ambiguity in your post, I just want to remind you that you can get your money back on those bars.

I'm concurring with dhorst - I did have a bad case of salmonella a few years ago; I was tested and diagnosed. It's horrible - I was sick in bed for over a week; I contracted it at a restaurant.

What horrifies me is the number and variety of products that have been sickening people in just a few years. I hope the new administration in the US will make food an other product safety one of its priorities. Adding government inspectors would be a good use of taxpayer funds that would put people back to work.

I'm not throwing out the jar of Skippy in my refrigerator - I haven't heard anything bad about it.

I'm taking their word for it that jarred peanut butter is fine. I'm also assuming that the peanut butter crackers I've had for over a year are okay. Does anyone know how far back the supposed contamination goes?

Not really at all. It's not something I use enough to even keep around the house.

nom nom nom, i just ate three jars of peanut butter.

Girl Scout cookies are OK. They do not use peanut butter from the specific producer that was found to be infected.

for all the folks passing the info on THANK YOU. My partner is a recent organ transplant recipient, and knowing these things is very important. For those of you who included links of documentation, thank you even more...it allows those of us who choose to verify everything the way to do so.
As to panic responses....i think these happen more and more every day, be it health scares, weather scares, anything that puts people in danger is reported and then grows virally. For all of our technology, we humans do not do a good job of safety for our people.
Being chief cook and bottle washer for a immune compromised individual, I am learning that the fresher the better, the less processed the better, however the learning curve is steep, the costs are great, and living in the great winter of the midwest, freshness of healthy food can be difficult. We need to be focusing on how to make it better, easier, safer, and drop the defensiveness and sensitiveness over words.
~stepping down from my soap box

dhorst posted it earlier, but there is a list of company recalls available online, and some of the products include Health Valley Organic Peanut Crunch Chewy Granola Bars, Grreat Choice Dog Biscuit products, CLIF and LUNA bars, Whole Foods Carob Energee Nuggets, and an assortment of cookies from Trader Joe's.

cookingbooks was right: Just one more reason to get off our dependency on agri-business. According to this article, at least 491 people have been infected with salmonella poisoning, with seven deaths. To put it into perspective, the 2001 anthrax attacks killed five people, and infected 17.

Although I have seen the idea derided in the forums and elsewhere, President Obama needs to address food reform as urgently as he needs to address the issues of the economy, national security, the Iraq War, the situation in Afghanistan, health care and climate change. As Michael Pollan points out in his Farmer in Chief open letter, all of the issues Americans consider important all relate to our fractured food policy, with agribusiness using much of the fossil fuels the country imports, and contributing the lion's share of greenhouse gasses.

We've recently seen tomatoes, jalapenos, spinach and beef come under fire. Right now, it's peanut butter. Soon, it will be something else if the government doesn't begin action to change the state of agriculture and food manufacturing. I support those who have urged us to make our own peanut butter, or to buy from small businesses, but we all know a grandmother, a young niece, a little cousin who can't take matters into his or her own hands. It is for them, the ones who are most susceptible to being killed by food poisoning and for those already affected, we should instigate our elected officials to rebuild our food system.

Teddie brand super chunky has been on my lunch menu for the past couple of weeks; so far so good. We do make our own peanut butter every now and again, and it's pretty good, so if you have any worries do that :) What a world...good luck to us all!

The ONLY peanut butter that has been implicated is peanut butter used in processed foods such as cookies, bars, cereals. No branded jar peanut butter is affected. The issue is poor sanitation at the plants that were making this peanut butter. It has nothing to do with the peanuts themselves. Stick to well known brands of peanut butter.

My brother works in a laboratory which tests batches of peanuts from major producers. He said that a lab in Georgia had tested the nuts from southern Georgia and notified the company that the nuts tested positive but a person at the plant shipped them out despite the results.

As to the person making your own pb, how can you be sure the peanuts you use aren't tainted?

yaya

I buy organic, locally made peanut butter so I won't be tossing mine. I do have to say that this is getting ridiculous though.

*raising hand* slightly off-topic, but how many folks keep their pb in the fridge? My husband's great-grandmother did this, but it just seems weird to me.

The instructions on my jars of Costco's 'organic" peanut butter say "refrigerate." We do.

to yayajac: an article i just read said they are assuming the contamination happened after the nuts had already became peanut butter/paste, since the roasting process of the nuts would heat them to a high enough temperature to kill the bacteria

i'm not worried about any jarred peanut butter, just peanut butter-containing products.. i'm holding off on eating any products i have to see what companies continue to announce recalls

ironically enough, a few days before the recalls, i had just ordered several bags of Bear Naked Peanut Butter granola from their website.. so far so good though, they haven't made any recalls, hope it stays that way

We don't eat alot of peanut butter but of course, now that I know I shouldn't have it, I want it!

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