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Bodily Functions at Serious Eats

I'm relatively new here but have read each and every post since joining. Additionally, I've read several hundred threads that were logged before I ever joined.

My pet peeve? People here who have some compelling need to describe their bodily reactions to most everything they eat.

I'm not talking about threads like, "Foods That Make You Hurl" (I invented that thread title) or "Food Habits That Gross You Out" (that one, too). Nor am I talking about basic indigestion, can't tolerate it, and other subtle allusions to same.

I'm talking about people who feel driven to say things that describe their reactions to foods in a generally disgusting manner. I don't come hear to read about your diarrhea, your gas, the color or smell of your pee, or anything like that.

It's a food blog, for goodness sake. I come here when I'm inspired, curious, hungry, or all three. I don't come here to read that stuff, I don't care, and I'm not impressed by your constant desire to shock/awe others here with your brutal, uncouthe "honesty."

Do a search (upper right corner) for "diarrhea" and you can see what I mean.

Explicit body function descriptions: Is this a "way" or "no way" for you here?

67 Comments:

mince I so love new people to our community. We have been around a few years now and we agree to disagree often. No one is forcing you to read things that are offensive to you. People are people and they will say what they feel they must. We all have issues we consider not our cup of tea.
Bottom line don't read what you don't want feel comfortable with. Welcome to SE.

Jerzee, I'm not saying that these issues are raised in thread titles. In fact, nobody here ever posts something like, "I Have The Runs."

What happens instead is, these things are "snuck in" by way of various comments.

It's not a matter of "don't read what you don't feel comfortable with" -- I already do that, based on thread title. Your advice is a little, er, rote and pedestrian. "We have been around a few years now. . ." is in the same category. Evolution is good, dear, as well "open ears" and "willingness to hear new ideas without immediately responding with 'no one is forcing you. . .'"

Your sentiment is essentially a common, politically-correct salve intending to soothe "newbies" on most of the 300 blogs and boards I frequent (or run). What it is NOT is a logical vote for basic behavior guidelines that others may/may not agree with.

Why don't we actually let people respond without a Board Matron weighing in with some PC stuff?

BTW, there's no need to welcome me again. :) You already have, love. But I do appreciate it!

Is this post like looking into a mirror in a mirror....?

This boils down to you want only the things you want to read to be posted on the site and you want nothing you don't want to read to be posted on the site. I can understand that. I get irked at some threads and posts myself. However, the way to have only what you want to read is to have your own website and control the content.

I see no problem with people saying that they can't tolerate something, or that they experience cramps or stomachache. I can't recall any posters talking about explosive bodily functions in any great detail, which might put someone off of their serious eats.

ewww!! I'm glad I haven't read any threads like that yet. I agree - some things ya just need to keep to yourself!

I think we need a separate category for Bodily Functions and that it should also be listed in our profiles. Nothing brings me closer to a community than knowing their every uncomfortable moment.

By the way, welcome to Serious Eats.

i've never come across anything offensive in any of the threads i've been reading .... i find everyone to be rather tame in their remarks..... in fact the title of this thread is the first time i've EVER read anything remotely resembling anything offensive.

The board matron (thanks for making me feel old) will sound off whenever she wants to. It is not a democracy unfortunately and we do not make the rules. Maybe that is where the confusion lies. If someone posts something that is not acceptable someone from the SE staff will handle it. Like pooch I have never seen anything that I thought was that off.
Also mince I was not trying to soothe you I was telling you what is what in my opinion which as you have so carefully given so have I.
I am hardly soothing, ask anyone. LOL

I hear you, mince. I'm a nurse, grossed out by next to nothing, yet it's always a little shocking to be into a thread about ice cream and then read about someone's explosive diarrhea. How you say...unappetizing.

Welcome to SE... the beauty of the site is you can come to talk food, or I guess in some cases your reactions to food ad nauseum. I myself haven't noticed much in the way of bodily functions, but then again I'm not one of Miss Manners "Dear Gentle Readers". What I find far more offensive is, people who are so easily offended. So much so that it makes me want to VOM...... errr...... nevermind!

@mince - Really, I haven't had this particular issue register on my radar. I believe you when you say that you've run into posts containing this information, but I think it's hardly a rampant problem. By and large, the posts here are centered around food...not bodily functions.

I can understand the desire not to hear a blow by blow account of montezuma's revenge, but I'd hardly classify discussing "asparapiss" in the same category. You'll have to expand the subcategories.

Maybe there was something in the peanut butter thread that brought this to the fore? I don't know, and I'm going to search for diarrhea, thank you.

Certainly, I agree that it's unappetizing to hear details of gastrointestinal distress. Ironically, it's an impossible-to-ignore aspect of eating. I don't think I'd ever mention my own experiences, because I do agree that's best kept personal, but who am I or anyone else to decide which stage of the digestive process marks the forbidden zone beyond which the internet cannot pass (no pun intended)? It's all one tube.

I'm reading on my phone, and so can't do the suggested search, but at least IRL, it seems like it's just certain people who always feel the need to share graphic details of what EVERY type of food "does" to them. Maybe I'm alone in this, but with the exception of ONE case of food poisoning, food has nevere DONE anything to me. :)

I'm with @pooch on this. I've been a fairly active member on this board for a while and I don't recall ever seeing a bodily function reference that I found particularly offensive. Admittedly, I'm not exactly a delicate flower, but seriously, even in a post dedicated to discussing such things, the word "diarrhea" has come up exactly 4 times, and two of them were in your initial post. I think that for the most part, the SE posters are pretty good about censoring themselves.

Sometimes we discuss what types of food we like and what types of food we dislike on this forum. Aspects of certain foods that make us 'dislike' them may include taste but also unfortunate GI effects--as @renzata said, digestion, weight loss, weight gain, nutrition, sensitivity to hot and cold foods, lost teeth, surgery, are all effects or concerns that relate to eating, and sometimes aren't 100% pretty to talk about.

Also, the forum isn't just about eating, but about cooking, and certain aspects of cooking, like food sanitation (how long you can leave something out of the refrigerator before the level of bacteria grows dangerous for examples) aren't that appetizing either, but still pertains to the concerns of the board's posters. I don't think it's reasonable to have a standard that it must be 'dinner table safe' to be posted on SE.

Odd, I have yet to come across a thread that included gross bodily functions. Thanks for pointing it out. I will have to be more vigilant.

I'll vouch for Jerzee.... sometimes she's as soothing as syrup of ipecac!
But you always know where you stand with her... That's why we love her!

I almost always introduce myself online by saying I talk a lot about food and poop because I'm Japanese...it's genetic.

Those things actually swim right past me...much like people who love onions and garlic don't notice raw onions, garlic, and cilantro in their food when queried, but I can from just a morsel that's touched a morsel w/ it in it. It's only when someone gets really creative/colorful, when I notice and, at times, appreciate or relate.

I've been reading stuff online for over 25 years, so not much really phases me anymore.

I do not recall reading anything particuarly offensive either regarding some bodily function in a thread... but if you eat it, you must release all waste somehow... it's all just part of a healthy eating process. And here at Serious Eats we all love to EAT!!!!

If someone says "it gives me gas" I find that less unappealing than when they describe a food that I like in disgusting terms. "I can't eat xxx because it reminds me of zzz."

That said, people who like to say things like that will continue to say them. Asking everyone to mind their manners isn't going to affect them one little bit, because they aren't disturbed by their own comments -- they already think the food is gross. The only way to get rid of those sorts of comments is to have the moderators start removing them. That's probably a bit extreme, unless the comments themselves are that extreme.

I'm more disturbed by the visual that the title "foods that make you hurl" conjurs up than any discussion of someone's gas when they eat beans...etc.
btw mince/Laurel E....how many names do you post under?

Okay, seriously? What have you people been reading where people described their explosive diarrhea in lurid detail?

Have I just by some miraculous luck missed them all?

I don't think such things require a filter or some kind of rule.
It's a rare enough occurrence that one can just move on past the offensive post and find other things to read.

@mepolo ~ what gave it away? Are you sure? That post was about as tummy upsetting as this one, and as rare - blessed be. Disturbing.

my thoughts exactly

My more impish nature has made me wish my user name was "blueberryvomit" just for this thread...

@Perky - It was mentioned in the intro to this thread that mince "invented the title" for the Foods That Make You Hurl thread...

But I'm not sure if that means that mince and Laurel E are the same poster.

@Junie ~ I thought she meant she invented it as she was writing this post, just to illustrate her point. But, here it is:

http://www.seriouseats.com/talk/2008/11/foods-that-make-you-go-hurl.html

When I went into mince's user profile there was no listing of the thread 'foods that make you hurl'.....so I did a search of that thread...and discovered that Laurel E started that thread. Since mince told us that the title was invented by her....it led me to the conclusion that mince & Laurel E are the same person.

I must've missed those posts about bodily functions. Guess I was in the potty when they were circulating.

gee the concensus seems to be that about the only one disturbed by these "discussions" is one "new" member. hmmm I wonder why that it?.

@Perky - Oh, I see how you were reading it - that makes more sense.

What bodily functions? Either they went over my head (poor choice of metaphor) or I wasn't offended. That said, we do love to laugh here and sometimes get a little crazy. In a good way. Let's move on!

Okay, I just did a site search on "diarrhea" and actually laughed out loud at some of the posts. I'm sorry, but I think some people are too easily offended or put off. We're all individuals here, and should feel free to express ourselves in our own way. Can we move on now?

Frankly I think the fact that you proudly note you read 300 blogs and message boards and claim to have read each and every post on this site is much more disturbing than posts which only you seem to have noticed. That's just me though.

Welcome to Serious Eats Mince!

Yeah I must be so gross and disgusting that I didn't notice either :D

Either way Mince, you should know that this community is respectful but sometimes quite vulgar...a lot of inside references--we're very loyal to SE. I agree with the majority here and advise you to maybe try not to be offended? We're pretty civil, and I guarantee you'd learn a lot.

:D Christel

@mepolo, Perky, etc: I'm most definitely not mince, but apparently this post is directed at me. haha

I only post under my proper name, thank you.

Sorry guys if I'm inappropriate. But I never posted about diarrhea, swears!! I try not to post about anything "gross" and you can always not read something if it strikes you as unappetizing.

And I think "foods that make you go hurl" is a funny title. I guess that says something about my sense of humor. :)

I'm goin' wit Jerzee here

I prefer to think of Jerzee as our queen.

And I've never seen her soothe anyone.

@Pav~ Ipacec-HILARIOUS!

@Laurel E ~ I just looked up the other stated reference and couldn't find it. I wonder if you were targeted, or the poster just happened to come across the "go hurl" post and cite you. That one had 63 responses. Anyway, your word is good enough for me. I believe the staff can tell if someone is using multiple names and they don't tolerate troublemakers for long, if that is their sole purpose in posting here. Hope this didn't ruin your day!

Got to agree with Jerzee. This is a relatively clean board...no known or identified pervs hanging out here. But it seems that a reflection on 'bodily functions' in some cases is used to help get a point across. Not necessarily arouse, defame or insult anyone or any institution. So in the spirit of open journalism, free thought and the rights to free speech, if the comments make it through our beloved moderator, then it should be up to the discretion of each individual to ingest the words or move on to another topic.

Ok - I'll get off my soapbox now.

@mince Your first post says that you were a lurker for a while before you posted a topic and that you read all the posts. You obviously had the opportunity to decide if this place suited your sensibilities. Personally, I've never read anything truly offensive and the folks here are alot more personable than at other sites. Maybe thats because they seem more real when they admit that sometimes even the "foodiest" foods can have adverse effects...but I've never seen anyone going overboard with it.

I have to agree with Ribster, and of course, Jerzee. I'm not on here nearly as often as I would like, my life doesn't allow me to be. When I do log on
I'm here for a release, and education, and some great conversation.In the year or so I've been a member, I've NEVER been offended. Again, with the kids, this is a computer friendly house, meaning we all have ots acccess to each other for a second or so. When the kids are over my shoulder, there's noting offensive they've ever seen. We're all just a bunch of foodies.Not all food agrees with everyone!

@mince-great thread, way more thought provoking than another in an ongoing series of "WAY or NO WAY's"

Nope, I'm not Laurel E, and she is not me. :)

And no, @calliope, I never once claimed that I've read "all the posts." Reality check please, k?

So if I have to be more specific (and I guess I do), it's Cassaendra, with her constant mentions of "diarrhea." Apparently, she's proud of tripping small children and flouting her body functions constantly.

Everyone else, just chill. K?

Oh come on guys! All of this going back and forth at each other is quite unsettling. In fact, now I have a case of the greasy, runny, yellowish-green splats. Sorry... couldn't refuse. Actually, no I'm not sorry or I would have just backspaced this whole thing. And I think I am o.k. with saying all of this because I am actually talking on target with the title.

Hi Mince! Ok, let's look at this for a minute: "I'm relatively new here but have read each and every post since joining." So yes, you said you've read "all the posts", realtively speaking. But there's also something else.

As others have pointed out this community has been around for a while now. It's also owned and operated by some folks who are quite intelligent. They are in here all the time making sure things are running well. We're also rather self-policing and have a tendency to say, "oops, my bad" when something isn't right.

Every once in a while someone will come in here and try to make changes to what they want to see. There are folks who think hamburgers and pizza aren't serious enough for a place called Serious Eats (missing the real point), those who think certain words should be banned from use (yes dammit, I'm a foodie), those who think the place needs a redesign, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

Here's something simple to remember: This place runs just fine. Telling people to "chill", writing condescending things like "Reality check please, k?" up above and "Getting back to the original topic" as on the Hell's Kitchen thread ... in a place like this where people do their friggin' damndest to get along ... these are unnecessarily harsh and are not the kinds of things we do around here.

And the actual reality is even simpler: Any censorship belongs to those intelligent folks who own and operate this place.

You and anyone else are welcome here. Really. Honestly, seriously, you are welcome here. But how this place works is only up to the fine Mr. Levine and the rest of his serious Edibles.

k? Thanks.

can't we all just get along????


@dmcavanaugh ~ are you saying you'd rather discuss a diatribe about bodily functions by someone claiming to be someone else, than tolerate a series of fun questions about usual and unusual foods that provoke interesting comments and recipes? You're not the first to slam me, but most seem to appreciate the thought that goes into them and the great responses. It fills a gap, that's all. I'm tired of defending myself to people that I like and respect! If a newbie or whatever the hell he/she is said it, I'd ignore it, but coming from you - I'm insulted. If you hate them, don't read them and don't call me out and slam me against the wall. Not a great way to start the day.

I'm with the camp that realizes that food has a cycle in the body which occasionally gets messed up. Learning which foods can cause this and learning which foods can help or prevent this is ok by me. I also know where babies come from - you'd be shocked!


@jerzeetomato and @LunaPierCook - Thanks for reminding us of the bottom line - "censorship belongs to those intelligent folks who own and operate this place." If this blog offends anyone's sensibilities, give it a pass. If not, join the crowd! The blog is informative, interesting, funny and is a true reflection of a great number of people who post here.

@Perky, maybe a good stork recipe is needed ... ;-)

One of my favorite gangs of folks are those at Grossology. Their original book (which I have) and touring museum exhibit are wonderul and frank explorations into how nasty our bodies really are, and what honestly happens to food after we eat it. My dad, who was 80 at the time, loved playing with the air-powered fart sound machine ...

@LPC ~ Stork! hahaha. That's a myth take. It's all about the cabbage patch.

Neglected to mention this photo on my blog. If you have a weak stomach and zero interest in where corn really ends up, do not click that link.

I have been with SE for a while now and I have never seen anything offensive regarding bodily functions , not that I would care. I see more vile talk about bodily functions on Seattle Yelp reviewing restaurants, I think it 's quite humorous. What I like about SE is you can bring up a topic about whatever and the others react (if they want to) and say yeah, I react to such and such the same way, great, I am not alone. (hope I 'm making sense here).

@ Perky- don't let that remark get you down Lady, I love the "ways or no ways", they are alot of fun.

@Perky I second @pjracz10 - those posts really help get the juices flowing on a slow post day - you must be able to tell the popularity of these posts by the sheer number of people who respond to them.

Those Way or NoWay posts take me on trips down memory lane like nothing else - it is wonderful - this is the first anniversary of the death of my beloved brother John, I miss him so much and several posts have me reminiscing and laughing when I would probably be crying! Keep up the good work - as my Dad used to say, you have a "fertile" mind!

Thanks guys.

@bareneed ~ my deepest sympathy on this terrible anniversary. Good memories do help, I know. {{{HUGS}}}

@Perky, no worries! I love you guys, even if you doubted me for a moment. :)

mince, I do agree that detailing various digestive details is redolent of sham candour/would-be 'earthiness' (and I can definitely relate to frustration of seeing threads derailed by irrelevant commentary), but I doubt it's worth complaining of this; mentioning it merely raises some members' hackles, causing them to blast into self-righteous mode. . . and nobody wins a flame war (it just makes a lot of work for the admin.s).
And to be fair, although what you describe does ring a bell (and it's the sort of thing that you find you've read before you manage to skip over it), this isn't that conspicuous of a problem.

Funny (and perhaps not entirely on-topic), but as soon as I read through the comments, I found myself recalling in graphic detail virtually every incident involving adverse GI reactions (some going back to the age of 3 or so), and all the foods that provoke the wrath of my innards. . . Hate to think of the sort of dreams I'll have tonight.

I'd like to add one more thing to this thread that I think is relevant. I don't want graphic detail either, but my mother died from colon cancer. She also had diverticulitis or losis (I get them up mixed), my best friend and her mother have celiac disease, my granddaughter has had serious GI problems from birth and my daughter has given up on getting answers from doctors and is experimenting with food and has determined many of the culprits. All of these medical problems are 100% related to food and are not uncommon. I believe we can all learn from each other without being gross and disgusting in the process.

I personally believe that adults can have a very engrossing, entertaining and informative discussion on the effect of asparagus on your pee.

I'm not going to censor it.

Have I got you cringing at the thought of Asparagus pee?

Good.


Hey, LPC --

I hope it's okay if I share feedback, since "this place runs just fine."

Is it okay?

LPC: You and anyone else are welcome here. Really. Honestly, seriously, you are welcome here.

Okay, thank you, LPC. I appreciate that.

LPC: But there's also something else. . .

Yeah, yeah, we'll get to your "something else" in a minute here, bud.

LPC: As others have pointed out this community has been around for a while now.

Dude, can you chill? It's pretty clear SE's been around for a while. But thanks for that.

LPC: It's also owned and operated by some folks who are quite intelligent. They are in here all the time making sure things are running well. . .

I agree! Things ARE running well. Case in point, this thread -- it hasn't been deleted yet because these intelligent webmasters and webmistresses "get" the difference between offering an opinion and "trying to make changes to what they want to see." If they ran these boards the way you might, it'd be Europe in 1933. But that's another story.

LPC: There are folks who think hamburgers and pizza aren't serious enough for a place called Serious Eats (missing the real point). . .

I actually found AHT and Slice a long time ago. Who would think those foods aren't serious enough? And I'd love to hear you explain the key and missing "real point," on behalf of your tender masters.

LPC: . . .Those who think certain words should be banned from use (yes dammit, I'm a foodie)

Okay, calm down now, buddy. . .you're a foodie. Established.

LPC: . . .Those who think the place needs a redesign, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

It does need a redesign, my friend. I hope it's okay that I suggest that. Many others have, too. Even your tender masters would agree to that, given the responsiveness they've shown when given suggestions. Take a note.


LPC:. . .These are unnecessarily harsh and are not the kinds of things we do around here.

"We"? Or "you"? Like you said, LPC -- it's the job of the owners/operators here to decide what is and isn't done. Not you. Like many here, your over-inflated sense of ownership is turning this board into a massive clique. Thank God that the owners/operators have shown a more open-minded, even-handed fairness than some of the small-minded, ego-driven posters here. So far, the operators' fairness has prevented this board from denigrating into a Chowhound -- your efforts notwithstanding.

LPC: Any censorship belongs to those intelligent folks who own and operate this place

I never asked for censorship, LPC. What brought "censorship" to mind for you? f you read my post, I clearly asked whether or not people agreed or disagreed with me. That's called expressing an opinion and asking for a vote -- not that my vote would mean anything, as it shouldn't -- again, as you said, the ultimate monitor here is the owner/operator.

But my original post was an opinion and a "yay/nay."

If you have other issues with this, I suggest you contact me at charmingamanda93 (at) yahoo.com. Yes, that's really my name (wink). And yes, I'm really willing to take you down privately, as opposed to continue this on this fine site.

Deal?

ya'll are giving me gas. I think I wanna hurl. I heart SE.

Hey @mince, just now found your response and I love it! Thanks for taking the time to write it, it's certainly worth the read and a whole lot of consideration. No need to "take me down" ... ;-)

Glad you took it for what it's worth, and with good humor, LPC. No harm, no foul.

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