Who the heck is Sandra Lee?
I am Canadian and came across this website by accident. I have been following it avidly and have also been reading old posts and have learned much. I have had questions answered, been highly amused and have even made a couple of contributions. I have noticed many "tongue in cheek" references to "Sandra Lee" in the threads - I have no idea who she is and why she seems so reviled amongst the reader-ship of SE. I have never heard of this person. Is it because I am from another country? I am familiar with all the another chefs, i.e. Alton Brown, Ina Garten, that have been mentioned. I need to be enlightened!
Thank you and keep up the great posts.
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44 Comments:
You are kidding, right?
izatryt at 8:26PM on 11/25/08
@Iz - I don't know about you but I'm a bit jealous of bareneed, I wish I didn't know who Schmandra was either.
Southern_bella at 8:28PM on 11/25/08
izatryt - no, I am deadly serious! The closest I can come to "Sandra Lee" is, "Sarah Lee."
bareneed at 8:30PM on 11/25/08
@bella ~ I'm not buying it.
izatryt at 8:34PM on 11/25/08
@Iz, what about a pair of Peter Pan boots? would you buy those?
:P
Southern_bella at 8:36PM on 11/25/08
@bareneed ~ Then where did you hear of Alton and Ina??????
izatryt at 8:36PM on 11/25/08
Check out some of these sue eet videos. No other words need to be spoken about Aunt SHAMEdy, a Food Network "Star". Watch, llllllllisten and lllllllaugh. Oh, and welcome bareneed!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sandra+lee&search_type=&aq=f
PerkyMac at 8:37PM on 11/25/08
@bella ~ before I would believe some other things!
izatryt at 8:44PM on 11/25/08
Welcome, indeed, to the wonderful world of Auntie Drunkie! The world where you can see flavour and mutilate innocent Angel Food cakes. Do google "Kwanzaa cake", your life will never be the same again.
brooke29 at 8:46PM on 11/25/08
Thanks for the heads up (or, should I say, boobs-up!) PerkyMac - I had time to watch a short clip of the youtube link you sent and I am beginning to get the picture!
bareneed at 8:51PM on 11/25/08
I am still not buying it.
izatryt at 9:06PM on 11/25/08
bareneed: She's a TV cook who is reviled in Lower Canada (aka, the USA; aka, the head on which Canada sits as a hat) for her preparations.
Some give her sympathy for her rags-to-riches upbringing. Some say she benefited from a relationship to a TV producer, or something.
She's reviled by some for her canned-goods and shortcuts approach to cooking, while others can't stand the fact that her "kitchen" changes color (we're talking cabinets and tabletops) for each show, to match whatever she's cooking.
She could be silly, she could be a culinary fraud, or she could be a New Age Jackson Pollock. I don't know and don't care. I don't watch her show except for that "reality TV" aspect of waiting for a disaster to happen. And like so many American (not Canadian, sorry) dupes, I never get to see the trainwreck.
TikiPundit at 9:36PM on 11/25/08
sandra lee is a joke.
she claims to make cooking and entertaining easier. what she does is substitute a whole bunch of ingredients with canned this or store-boughten that.
it's despicable.
downhillguru at 11:17PM on 11/25/08
@Tiki--don't forget, her outfit has to match the kitchen, food, and "tablescape" as well.
buffy at 11:40PM on 11/25/08
Oh, wow, I had never seen the Kwanzaa cake before. THAT brings it to a new level. I think I just died.
pearl at 11:50PM on 11/25/08
I don't understand the flack that Sandra Lee gets. Her target audience is not the hard-core 'all-organic, lets grow only our own food, raise and slaugter our own meat, eat only our homemade breads (or buy a $10 loaf) hold hands, and sing "Kumbai-ya" crowd. Her target audience is the nine-to-five, hectic-scheduled, living on a tight budget crowd. Instead of recommending people buy five different spice jars at $4.00 a pop, she recommends buying a $1.50 blended spice packet that contains all five ingredients. She will use a store bought cake or canned soup. Paula Deen, and yes, even Ina Garten and Giada use them and they are heros. Sandra uses them and she is the anti-christ. Personally, I think that the Sandra-bashers are intimidated by her because she is an attractive, successful, thin and fit woman rather than seeing her for what she is trying to do, help middle-class, hardworking people put dinner on the table.
Michigander at 12:26AM on 11/26/08
She's a barbie doll who cooks food as plastic as she is.
jazzinx at 12:34AM on 11/26/08
Please give the date or name of the show that Ina Garten used a store bought cake. If anyone bakes it is Ina.
Giada using a store bought cake? I will let you name the show and the air date. Good luck with that.
If you guys cannot tell we have been fooled. SLop is not worth talking about.
JerzeeTomato at 1:08AM on 11/26/08
@Michigander - her true target audience is rich and bored housewives who want to entertain their rich and bore housewives-friends with "pretend" food and "take all the credit". I find it hard to imagine that "the nine-to-five, hectic-scheduled, living on a tight budget crowd" needs cocktails consisting of 3-4 diferent types of alcohol or tablescapes, and frankly, buying "five different spice jars at $4.00 a pop" that will last for a long time and could be used for various applications is actually significantly more budget-friendly than buying spice packets full of crap (pardon my French)
for a single use.
Her meals are, for the most part, neither faster nor cheaper (definitely not cheaper!) to make than a meal from scratch. It is elementary that when somebody washes, cuts, slices, cooks something for you, you pay for it. So if you're on a tight budget, you don't go buying hard-boiled eggs and sliced carrots from the salad bar of your grocery store, nor do you buy thinly-sliced chicken cutlets (that cost about twice times as much as even boneless skinless chicken breasts), etc., etc. It would be cheaper, faster and (much) tastier to just get a takeaway.
I watch her as my weekly comedy half-hour. Laughable? Yes. Often drunk and always ridiculous? That she is. Intimidating? Not unless you're being
force-fed one of her fabulous creations.
brooke29 at 1:08AM on 11/26/08
Sandra Lee is frakkin' clown shoes.
Amandarama at 8:02AM on 11/26/08
I will take the back of my fellow Canadian and state that I too had never heard of Sandra Lee until I joined this group. Food TV in Canada has never picked up her show and personally, I am hoping they don't. That's just me. I like their lineup as it is now. Apparently our Canadian homemaking magazines (for lack of a better term) also have not been interested in including her or her recipes in their articles. She's really not on the Canadian radar....
Maureen at 8:47AM on 11/26/08
Kwanzaa cake. Oh my heavens. I mean...just...oh my heavens.
Traveller at 9:59AM on 11/26/08
A couple of weeks ago I was in an Easton Mall Barnes and Noble outside of Columbus when I saw that she was coming in for a book signing. I made a mildly threatening comment that I'd douse her in homemade cake batter, which got me followed by a store employee till I left.
You know the recipes that are on Betty Crocker boxed foods and Campbell soup cans? Sandra Lee somehow gets paid to make those recipes for a 1/2 hour on national television.
Alyrmc at 10:17AM on 11/26/08
Grrr, that's what happens when I type at night and don't read what I type - I meant to write, of course, twice as much, not twice times as much (Wrote "three times" first, but then decided to take the regular, not sale price of chicken breasts as a base, deleted "three" but not "times". Sigh).
brooke29 at 10:19AM on 11/26/08
@bareneed - I also am clueless (blissfully so?) about who this lady is as you. I also read "sandra lee" as "Sarah Lee" until people made references to tv shows.
@izatryt - for realz, yo. I don't have a tv so I'm not subjected to anything I don't want to watch. I've seen Alton Brown before and have found some of his stuff on the internet (which is how I watch all of my tv), to answer your question to bareneed about how you can know about some tv chefs but not others. Besides, some people who do have tvs don't watch them that much. Maybe you need to get out more ? :P
joyyy at 10:39AM on 11/26/08
I am not the one who needs to get out more. :-O
izatryt at 10:44AM on 11/26/08
because watching tv=going out?
joyyy at 10:54AM on 11/26/08
I too only discovered Sandra Lee reading Serious Eats because I don't have cable!
HeartofGlass at 11:06AM on 11/26/08
We have a version of the Food Network up here (Food Network Canada - pretty inspired, eh?) and (apparently) thankfully we don't get Sandra Lee. We get Alton Brown, Crazy Southern Lady Who Wants to Kill Us All (Paula Deen) and many other US chefs, but also a great many "Made for Canadian" shows featuring Canadian chefs and Canadian Cuisine. So somewhere, someone along the way decided to spare us the joy that is Ms. Lee. Someone give that Executive a raise!
AmazonGoddess at 11:07AM on 11/26/08
Hell, let's end this thread, before it gets too personal! I now know who Sandra Lee is, and I can understand all the negative comments. Like my fellow Canadian, Maureen, said - she has never been on Canadian radar - we get plenty of USA cooking shows with various chefs and cooks - but - all I can say is - good old Sandra was turned away at the border! Thank goodness for those border guards.
bareneed at 11:09AM on 11/26/08
Attractive?? bahaha! She looks like a drug through the mud, worn out momma cat that's had too many litters! Giada and even Miss Paula Deen blow her away in the looks department. She is NOT a chef and doesn't deserve her own show ... THAT is why most foodies don't like her.
caramel at 12:21PM on 11/26/08
@michigander. unh unh unh. We aren't against someone buying a cake if they work all day. We are not against boxed or canned stock if you worked all week or don't know how to do it.
We ARE against what she does to the items while trying to tell us it's like homemade.
Buy a nice cake and serve it. Buy a delicious pre-made soup and enjoy it.
Are these struggling middle class working people dressing to match their dishes and kitchen according to the theme of the day?
That's not a show. Well, it IS a "show".
It gets us talking.
They say negative attention is still attention.
She is thin. That's all.
And for the record, Rachel Ray while slightly annoying in her own right, is the one taking care of the busy working people on a budget.
carolrsfMISSESTEXAS at 6:35PM on 11/26/08
@joyyy ~ What's a TV?
izatryt at 6:56PM on 11/26/08
I like Sandra Lee as a person, but If I were having a party, I'd ask her to bring Jell-O Shots.
Keight at 9:53PM on 11/26/08
@Keight, Well done.
carolrsfMISSESTEXAS at 10:22PM on 11/26/08
Her show is called "SEMI-homemade". The word "semi" means "almost" or "not entirely". She doesn't claim anything to be homemade (hence the title of her show...)
Some people don't know how to cook very well, some people don't have time, some people like to cut corners while cooking. So what? What should those people do? Only eat-out? Hire personal chefs? Continue to waste time and money on ruining foods they try to prepare from scratch? Starve?
Sandra Lee's show just gives people the idea that you don't have to choose between either cooking from scratch OR eating out of a box. You can mix them up and use store-bought foods as shortcuts to make a pretty decent meal. It's pretty simple... and I don't see anything wrong with that.
smile at 10:39PM on 11/26/08
Omigod! I just saw the clip on Kwanzaa Cake - it is a trainwreck!! It is like a skit from Saturday Night Live! If you put some chimps in a kitchen with ingredients for making a cake, I would bet it would come out better! I started this thread, wanting to know about Sandra Lee. I am now stunned into silence!!
bareneed at 8:52AM on 11/27/08
@bareneed
Thank's for posting this; I was afraid to ask too :D
You hear about this chick ALL THE TIME!
Go Canada!
hungrychristel at 12:13PM on 11/27/08
@bareneed - I told you your life would never be the same again!:-)
brooke29 at 12:39PM on 11/27/08
Okay, I just watched the Kwanzaa cake video. I don't think anyone would disagree that it's... it's... God, is there even a WORD for it? Vile. Maybe vile.
And yes, I agree that no serious foodie would watch SL w/ serious intent.
However: you don't start a toddler learning to read by dragging out "War and Peace" or Kafka's "Metamorphosis." You start 'em out w/ simple stuff, because that's where they are developmentally. "Sesame Street," "Square One," "The Electric Company" and "Captain Kangaroo" (alright, I'm dating myself) are/were created to deal w/ kids at different developmental ages. Very few adults would snicker at or deride Little Golden books or Thomas The Tank Engine books... and I say that it's the same w/ "Semi-Homemade."
There really *are* people who don't know how to cook much, or try to bring a menu together, or even decorate nicely. (Trust me, I know a few people who fit this description.) And for that reason I'll defend SL. Everybody who cooks had to start somewhere, or get an idea of how things might go together, etc. I'm sure there are LOTS of foodies who started to enjoy cooking by coming up w/ a few god-awful permutations from the Canned Food Recipe Cookbook. She shows how all of the elements can all go together, and I say that's fine because that's where some people need to start.
"Graduating" from "Semi-Homemade," I could see a foonie (ok, a combo of "newbie" and "foodie" - the alternative was newdie...) moving up to "How to Boil Water" or Sara Moultin's show.
Robbo at 11:46PM on 11/27/08
For a beginner who doesn't know how to cook much, Sandra Lee is not the place to learn! She does nothing to teach basic, fundamental cooking techniques everyone who wants to become a good cook must learn. A person can learn to cook simple food, starting with whole, fresh, and inexpensive ingredients. I did. With a lot of help from my friends-- Alton Brown, Jamie Oliver, Martha Stewart, and yes, even the obnoxious but informative RR.
Sandra Lee is not the culinary equivalent of Thomas the Tank Engine. More like.... Sponge Bob Square Pants. Entertaining, yes. Educational---heck to the no.
buffy at 1:23AM on 11/28/08
I'm not sure that she's trying to educate people on cooking techniques, I just think she's giving a certain pocket of people ideas about what to cook. Obviously she's not targeted towards foodies, but non-foodies need to eat too and they don't always want to eat out of a bag or box. Not everyone who cooks is interested in learning how to be a master chef...
And the table-scape thing is pretty lame but I think any normal person would understand that she's just giving people party ideas. Sandra Lee is festive in kind of a cheesy way and some people just happen to dig it.
smile at 1:54AM on 11/28/08
I've only heard of Sandra Lee from this site; I don't live in the US, and haven't got a TV, anyway. I do visit my family in the US, but they haven't got a TV either. The only time I've seen her in action was thanks to the link on somebody's post on SE, to the cakewrecks site. Brilliant! Absurd and ghastly, but brilliant!
mongoose at 3:37AM on 11/28/08
Now I wonder about the lineup for Food Network Canada.
Could it be better than FN USA?
Wait, that's a dumb question. What I mean to ask is, what's the lineup? Is that grill guy still working up there?
TikiPundit at 5:16PM on 11/28/08