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Serious Eats Language

I'm just going to say it: I have a filthy mouth. I curse pretty often and I've found it very hard to "keep it clean" in Serious Eats posts and comments.

I don't know if Serious Eats has language rules, but I've tried to be good because as I've gotten older I've realized that there are people out there who don't take kindly to cursing. As a matter of fact, they look down on you if you do it. Lately I've noticed some "bad words" slip in certain comments and I've secretly loved it.

Does anyone else have to force themselves to keep it clean when responding to Serious Eats posts or am I the only one?

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I had a high school English teacher who told us that cursing was basically lazy. She loved to make use of archaic insults (Shakespeare has some great ones) that were way more inventive and clever - and more biting - than the run of the mill gutter talk we were accustommed to hearing (and using).

As I get older I have less patience with reading or hearing standard cursing, and it really does say something about the person who utters or writes it. Dignity really does count for something.

I'm all for passionate expression here at this site, and the occasional "bad word" used for emphasis doesn't bother me, but overall it's nice to come here and find some measure of respectability.

Amen moibec. Very well said. The f-word has become the sole adjective for a large part of a generation, as well as a frequent verb and even noun. It has lost it's shock value for most, but I still find it extremely offensive.

@PumpkinBear ~ I am in real estate, so you think I would have a complete potty mouth these days.

I very rarely use foul language. Perky called me on it one time when I did. If I can't make my true feelings known without "swearing" as we called it growing up, then back to the drawing board!

That said, DH works in the heavy truck industry! ;-O I can hold my own in a "cussing contest"!

I find the younger generations have a different "vocabulary" from us "older" folks.

I think that the only thing worse than typing a curse word is typing "beep" in place of the curse word. For example, "What the *beep* is wrong with you?!". Cursing is supposed to be a quick reaction so if you actually try to censor your curse word by typing out a "beep", it kind of loses it's effectiveness (if it even had any in the first place).

@izatryt ~ I was probably teasing you. I sold new homes and the language on a construction site is really something, but whenever they came into my office, they spoke without using curse words. It's not that I'm a prude, but I appreciated the respect. When I invaded their territory, I heard everything (they often didn't even know I was there), but if I had clients and their language was horrible, it was unprofessional and embarrassing. Depending on the circumstances (like a final walk-through), it could be grounds for dismissal.

I've never found anyone particularly offensive here, except once when somebody I like had a bit too much to drink, and it wasn't the cursing that went too far.

Good writing doesn't occur because of quick responses. Even colorful writing doesn't. And there are lots of great, useful, vigorous words that can be used. I don't have virgin ears - I was a nurse for a long, long time, and I've heard as much as a longshoreman, from patients, families, and staff. And I can use it too. But there's a place for it, and I'm pretty happy with the level we've hit here. For some of us, writing "beep" (or whatever our equivalent is), is as automatic as bellowing an obscenity when we slam the door on our finger.

I curse like a sailor but I put more thought into what I type. But I dont mind it when other people do it. In fact I think it's no big effing deal.

@Perk ~ For sure. ;-)

Yeah, I have basically no sense of decorum whatsoever. When I post, I really have to reign it in so that I don't offend anyone. Sometimes, it hurts!

@ Pumpkinbear.....grooooaaannnnnn.

I dont do drugs. I dont smoke. I have never once swallowed anything harder than a prescription darvocet. I rarely, rarely drink (hence 2 oz of brandy putting me damn near under the table!). I am the poster child for anti-depressants although I can't find a good reason to take them in case it ruins a perfectly good bad mood.

Therefore, I say whatever comes to my mind or my fingertips. Don't like it? Eeeehhhh. Don't read it. Pretty simple. There is a pretty significant chance I won't care either way. I have walked on egg shells around other people my entire life and I can guarantee you I won't ever do it again. Not for the people in real life or the people in my virtual life.

Besides, it takes alot to make Perky choke on toast.

I don't swear much in the real world, so when I do, people notice. Which is what the intention is. Here, I don't get mad enough to use any sort of foul language. I'm talking about something I enjoy -- what's to stress over? At worst, someone disagrees with me. No problem, they're not in my kitchen.

I reserve the right to call bullshit when I see bullshit. My grandmother used to do it and she was ever so stylish about it. She would smile real big and turn her lips up and say BULLSHIT and laugh. I thought it was beyond the epitome of being well versed.
I like all the newer terms for jerk that the Z Gen internet people have created and you will find them peppering my posts.
I also tend to make up words as I go along. Adapting is my raison d'etre.
We are a whole lot of passionate at SE. If we are just polite in our profanity we will still agree to disagree and therefore still be cool.

I don't swear much, and don't find it difficult to find replacements for profanity; I can respect it as an expression of anger or pain, but otherwise, (e.g. sprinkled liberally throughout ordinary conversation) it seems sort of adolescent and tedious, and feels lacking in courtesy. On the other hand, 'bulllshit' is sometimes THE only effective reaction to something.

I grew up with parents who swore (up to a point; what they referred to as 'the f-word' was off-limits) when angry or injured, and they didn't have a different set of rules for my siblings and myself. However, when we lived in the US for 5 years, we lived in a small town where parents tended to get go after their kids with a strap/wash out their kids' mouths with soap if they swore, so kids swore a lot at school, and I always felt embarrassed for them; it was such empty showing-off. So, profanity as a replacement for other adjectives reminds me of pre-teens trying to convince their friends that they're cool and that they're not REALLY scared of their parents.

I have definite, impassioned opinions about many subjects, food included, but since I prefer to keep the focus on what I'm saying, I avoid language that is likely to offend; I don't think self-expression should come at the expense of respect for others.

My husband keeps asking me when my ship is sailing, so yes, I do use profanity when appropriate, or in appropriate conversation, you might even see me use it here, why, because I am an adult, I've been an adult for a few years now and I've earned the right to speak however I choose.

That being said, I do know how to reign it in depending on the company I am keeping. It is about respect for me in those situations, I do know how to act "civilized" when necessary.

But don't ever cut me off on the highway, YOU GOT IT?

I try to keep it fairly clean in my blog posts and Talk discussion, which is a habit I got into when I first started blogging on the Slice blog all those years ago. I figured that my parents would start reading it at some point, and they did (along with my grandmother). So I didn't write anything there that I didn't want them to see. Occasionally I will lapse into a blue word or two, but in those cases it's more for effect, since, like dbcurrie's sentiment, I don't do it often and when I do, I'd like to think it gives emphasis. At those times, the worst it gets is "BS" (spelled out) or some such. Sometimes a "WTF" (always abbreviated, never spelled out) is in order, too—mostly in reference to something so completely weird or baffling.

Great topic, PumpkinBear. I would have never thought to ask this!

The angrier I get the more I swear. It's just that simple. Let's face it - "fiddlesticks" doesn't let off quite as much steam as another "F" word I can name.

sorry i grew up near a ship yard and a naval base, my language used to be very vulgar. I find that the older i get the more it bothers me when i curse. I still do, but alot less and usually for emphasis. That said, unless someone comes on here and posts something that is nothing but verbal assault(in this case written) I dont much care. I dont worry to much about the language someone uses, unless it goes over the line. I'm much more intrested in the ideas and personalaties put forth. and may i say you all have personalities! hehe!

Well, I just dropped the "F" bomb! I couldn't find the phone to call Eddie's doc. DH said it was right where I left it. Not smart of him today! We are all a little on edge. Our brief moment of euphoria is over. Eddie is having another test later this morning. He had a bad night.

When my mother was living, she loved the word S--t. She always said it was a very useful word. It could be used in many applications. She was a very polished lady, and it was crack up funny when she swore.

@ izatryt I'm so sorry hun, But dont give up, animals have a way of making amazing comebacks! many hugs sweetie as well as prayers.

I think people should be able to use whatever language they want, and sometimes, when angry or extremely frustrated, it can feel REALLY good to let loose a bunch of what we called "curse words" where I grew up. I will say, though, that when I hear an adult using a lot of curse words just in regular everyday speech, it makes them sound less articulate, less educated, etc., to me. I think there are better ways to express oneself.

But I don't believe in censoring people, on SE or anywhere else!

While online, I definitely censor my speech. I try not to do or say anything that might shame or offend my family and friends, similar to what Adam said above. I've told some of them about my comments here on SE, so I choose to check myself before I wreck myself.

I understand that others are comfortable with online cursing. If you are given the right to do so in an online forum, then curse away.

Of course, in offline situations, my cursing is directly proportional to my stress levels. If I haven't eaten for an extended period of time or haven't been able to run in more than two days . . . I tend to get anxious. And have been known to use some heinous language.

I'm human.

Cursing when speaking aloud is a very different thing. But why on earth would one need to curse on an online message board? As a couple have noted, there's no need to avoid a particular word when the word is called for but if the point is only to curse for the sake of cursing or to exclaim something then there are other words that can be used to express surprise or disgust or anger or what-have-you that don't have the same likelihood of offending anyone or making anyone uncomfortable.

Censorship writ large is certainly something to be concerned about. Choosing one's own words with some slight amount of thought isn't censorship in any negative sense; its only choosing to communicate in a way that is likely to be more effective overall.

Hehehe...sorry...couldn't resist!
I don't really swear irl...so swearing here isn't an issue. As izatryt noted above, and I think it's quite interesting how they've found their own ways of cussing, w/o being offensive...till you know what it means! lol

@mepolo ~ reminds me of watching movies on TV, and getting a kick out of the substitution words. Take all your stinkin' sugar and get the fun out of here and never come back, you frightful Mother Lover!

I am loving the word asshat. It is so apropos of everything.

@Jerzee i think an asshat is whatmy ex wears all the time;-)

I say the word s#@t with everything, but try and refrain when I comment here.

Fuck that. I'd dare to guess that the same fuckwads that have a problem with "outsider" language are the same fuckers who don't eat the 4/5ths of an animal. In both cases, missing out on the truly, flavorful, rich experience of life.

Asshat vs. douchebag...

Is db receiving something of a comeback? or am I just a douchebag? or asshat?

db was quite popular in NYC in the late 70's. Asshat? Not so much. is that a west coast thing?

In real life I'm a total potty-mouth. In fact, my general lent thing is to not curse and if I do I put a dollar in the kitty, which goes to a soup kitchen near me come the day after Easter. Even with the fines and trying to be good, they get a couple hundred bucks.

That said, I definitely censor myself when I write. I think that may be partly because there's not quite the same satisfaction typing F&^%! as there is shouting it, you know?

@hobomike, Asshat is relatively new. Asshat = Head Up Your Ass. I do love that. And douche (not douchebag is a personal favorite).

The various cognates of 'fuck' are outsider language? Seriously?
I live in Denmark, and hear this as much as I do in the US, which is plenty. Every vocabulary-deficient, empty headed teenager, every wanna-be 'street' poseur, every phony 'I'm just one of the real folks, y'all' type sprinkles his or her conversation with 'fuck/fucking/fuck-all/etc.' It seems ridiculous to be dismissive of those who don't swear as inauthentic; contrived 'authenticity' is one of the most aggravating affectations going.

If you want to swear, fine. If you don't, fine too. If you you swear just to look cool or authentic, though, I'll find out where you live, and fill your sock drawer with large, pregnant cockroaches.

@mongoose: Word. And leave the sock drawer alone. Strike the underwear drawer.

It's just more respectful not too. Now with my friends, I find the F-word is useful for everything. Verb, noun, adjective. Joy, dismay. I say it front of my sister and brother, but never in front of my mother or children.
Respect.
One of my very favorite things about SE.

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