Foodies Under Attack!
Just saw this piece on The Daily Beast (and commented on it!):
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-14/foodies-make-me-sick/
I took offense, even though I'm not sure I'd call myself a foodie b/c of all the bad connotations, but still, I'd like to think us Serious Eaters don't deserve such venom.
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23 Comments:
I guess she's not a Top Chef fan, huh? She might be able to rant but I'd love to see her throw down with Ramsay.
dhorst at 12:45PM on 11/14/08
OK, I get it; she's a comedian. Ha Ha.
"I once tried to make dining plans with a foodie friend and it took over ninety minutes to agree on a place that met all of her qualifications for ambiance, cuisine, and service. You would have thought we were negotiating Israeli borders."
the friend that she describes is not a foodie. she is a douchebag.
And how often you are judged by the company you keep.....
jdmcdonald at 12:57PM on 11/14/08
That is such crap. It does NOT take a foodie 90 minutes to decide on a dining place. If anything, true foodies have a selection of at least five restaurants in each genre of cuisine.
Her dining companion was simply a pain in the a$$.
Foodies (or the term "foodies") may on occasion be confused with the word "glutton" (or in Italian cafone, or hog, or pig). The originator of that blog entry needs a bit of educating and, at the very least, needs to find better friends.
therealchiffonade at 2:36PM on 11/14/08
"the friend that she describes is not a foodie. she is a douchebag.
And how often you are judged by the company you keep....."
oh my dear jd, i don't think it could be put any better-lol!
gastronomeg at 2:37PM on 11/14/08
some people don't know what good food taste like. they only buy micro ready food { not that there is anything wrong with that}. they maybe don't know how to cook. who knows. some are just full of crap and that's all they can taste.
dearrie at 3:13PM on 11/14/08
Very heated article! Good Find z911empire,
I especially love this part:
"...I’m sick of the foodies who need every morsel that goes into their mouth to be a Picasso painting, a Giacometti sculpture, a Proust novel, evoking the world with each crumb. Foodies who need everything to be caramelized, sauteed in a blabla reduction, nested in a bed of shredded whatevers, served with a mushroom top hat and a julienne of leeks that have been knitted into a sequined scarf."
..awesome. Another "foodie definition" debate. haha
hungrychristel at 3:28PM on 11/14/08
***If anything, true foodies have a selection of at least five restaurants in each genre of cuisine.
@therealchiffonade - given you live somewhere with that many options! (or good options, rather). Oh how I miss the gut-increasing perks of life in the city ... but on the other hand, I'd never put as much effort into learning how to cook if I was constantly tempted by amazinggood restaurants like I was back home. Ah, the catch-22.
But I really think that it gets back to what being a "foodie" means. I think most of us who self-identify as "foodies" see ourselves as people who view food as a hobby - eating or cooking or just something about food is interesting and fun to us and we try to explore it often (which works out since most people eat several times a day, ya know?).
If I walked past a restaurant and saw the same thing the author did, I would be annoyed too - no doubt.
joyyy at 4:00PM on 11/14/08
Most of the foodies I know, myself included, aren't like the ones she describes (or exaggerates). They're there for the food - the ambiance and all that other stuff only really matters to gourmets. What's wrong with expecting the food to taste good when you go out to eat? If I wanted to eat bad food, I'd stay at home and cook it myself.
omarac at 9:33PM on 11/14/08
Let's all calm down! Comedians make a living riling people up!! Don't take it personal!!! This is what they live for. Ignore this joker!!!!
izatryt at 10:00PM on 11/14/08
Blah blah blah talk about reaching for things to write about. What next your whotes not white enough? Static kling? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
JerzeeTomato at 10:02PM on 11/14/08
Am I the only one who thought her exaggerations were funny and clever? It's tongue-in-cheek comedy that appears to have ruffled many a feather.
I am shocked though..........that kerfuffle is a real word!
@omarac ~ "If I wanted to eat bad food, I'd stay at home and cook it myself." LOL
PerkyMac at 10:06PM on 11/14/08
it might be funny to some degree.. but i think it can also cause offense to foodies who arent as described there. just people who love food, good food, food on its own.. what makes it interesting and all that stuff. the restaurant stuff and ambience etc just add to the experience.. although, there some people i know to be as described.. but that a rather rare few.. i think.. but im definitely sure im not that kind of foodie.
cookieprincess at 11:48PM on 11/14/08
PerkyMac, you're not alone. I thought it was hilarious.
BangieB at 12:12AM on 11/15/08
Thanks BangieB! I was afraid I'd be tarred, feathered, skewered, grilled and masticated before being spit out.
I was offended by some of the nasty retorts on the site's comment section - especially those putting down my favorite website, Serious Eats. Seems like somebody has a personal grudge? .
PerkyMac at 12:33AM on 11/15/08
Masticated! *blushes* Perky, I didn't know you were allowed to say that here!
buffy at 12:44AM on 11/15/08
The article was pretty funny. A little absurd but for anyone who was offended, it may have been a little close to home.
The irony for people here is the serious eats blog spends more time discussing hamburgers and pizza than most other food dishes...
BirdDoggie at 4:41AM on 11/15/08
It's hilarious! Especially more so because i can recognise some of those traits in myself. (I'm lucky to have friends who tolerate my intolerance of bad coffee)
economyrice at 5:15AM on 11/15/08
I’m sick of the foodies who need every morsel that goes into their mouth to be a Picasso painting, a Giacometti sculpture, a Proust novel...
Yeah - like when I lick Nutella off a spoon.
That qualifies as a morsel.
I qualify as a foodie.
Hardly complicated stuff.
Don't get me wrong, there are times I expect every forkful to be downright orgasmic, like when I go to One If By LandTIBS or Peter Luger's but those restaurants charge top dollar and that expectation is not outlandish.
So if Ms. Klein waxes poetic about a particular meal, is she not a foodie? Perhaps a Temporary Foodie? A Wannabe Foodie? A poser? (I think that's the one.)
therealchiffonade at 8:24AM on 11/15/08
Leaving aside the fact that the author was trying to be humourous (which does give her a bit of latitude), I'd say that if there's a problem, I think it's in the label, because as soon as a label (ANY label) exists, it acquires certain connotations.
I personally find labels repellant for this very reason; they're opaque. Once the 'foodie' label is attached, you ARE a foodie, not a person who has some interest in food. As a person, you disappear. This holds equally for 'fashionista', 'goth', 'hipster', etc. But unless you actually identify more with a label than with yourself as an individual, I just cannot imagine taking this criticism personally, or seeing so-called 'foodies' as under attack.
But perhaps that's just because I'd pour whatever I happened to have in my hand over the head of anyone who dared call me a 'foodie' ;)
mongoose at 9:24AM on 11/15/08
I have no idea who that woman is talking about .. but, it isn't me. I can decide in seconds what restaurant to go to ...
I want every bite to be better than the last. I'm realistic enough to know that this isn't going to happen if my next bite is at McD's.
AND ... the only reduction I'm working on right now is my KC-style BBQ sauce on pork ribs. Trying to perfect that combination.
KuyasKitchen at 10:50AM on 11/15/08
A true foodie is born with a passion for food, and its not something we can just turn off, unfortunately this can be quite bothersome for another person who does not have that same passionate fire.:)
Rock on Foodies:)
mamachef at 9:12PM on 11/23/08
Oh please, "born with a passion for food", I think that's the sort of thing that earns the ire of others.
I found her comments amusing because foodies, by and large are either snobs, or simply pretentious and largely ignorant. One of my all time favorite foodie blog rants that garnered the most laughs from friends and co-workers was one where the foodie in question, he or she considered him/herselvf an urban farmer/guerilla activist, and was whinging on about how it occured to him/her, while sitting at an interesection how wasteful it was for roadside/curbs not to be used for guerilla food gardening.
I still remember my jaw dropping after reading his/her screed. Apparently this foodie, and his many commenters (it might actually have been here on seriouseats.com) all thought his idea sound. Apparently these types who claim to understand the importance of healthy, not contaminated food, are incapable of making the mental leap in understanding that when one grows food at the immediate roadside, said food is contaminated by car and truck exhaust and whatever might spill out of cars in the case of an accident, etc.. A co-worker relayed to me about a guy she knows at college, who makes a habit of scavenging for natural foods on campus lawns, despite the fact that the lawn areas are sprayed regularly with pesticides and goodness knows what else, and the little flags that dot the lawns advertise that fact.
It's not hard to figure out that so much of what goes on in the foodie "movement" is at the shallow surface level preening. Reading foodie blogs is like watching a wave at a baseball game, each blogger in succession posts the same recipe, or a slight variation on the same theme within days of each other. What at first seemed neat and interesting is now a farce. Half the time I read people trolling for others to share recipes for one food item or another, and within few days to a week, suddenly that food item makes the rounds.
You all have pretty much run this into the ground.
Mares at 11:26PM on 11/23/08
@Mares.
WOW.
Why do you want to be here?
carolrsfMISSESTEXAS at 11:37PM on 11/23/08