How do you pronounce "grocery"?
Is it groSSery or groSHery?
I say it with the "s" sound, which I think (I think?) is more common, but there's a local commercial on radio where several different people are saying "groshery" and it's driving me batty.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/grocery
[groh-suh-ree, grohs-ree]
JerzeeTomato at 2:17AM on 10/06/08
I pronounce it with the "s" sound as well, but all my Vermont friends pronounce it with the "sh" sound. Maybe it's a New England thing?
hoipolloi at 3:39AM on 10/06/08
hmmm... after saying it aloud both ways, I'm a "groSHery" kinda gal.
Southern_bella at 7:17AM on 10/06/08
Depends on my mood. Sometimes I say "GROH-sir-ee" and sometimes I say "GROH-sher-ee." In Hawaii, I grew up hearing "groh-SHREE."
Cassaendra at 7:45AM on 10/06/08
DH says groh-shree. He is from Maryland. I do not say either. I "do the marketing".
izatryt at 8:12AM on 10/06/08
I'm from Chicago, and I've never heard anyone call it the grossery. Everyone I know calls it the groshery store. So at the very least, it's not just an East Coast thing.
hmlicata at 8:56AM on 10/06/08
"Sh" in eastern Missouri, for the most part. But you have to listen very carefully to hear it unless the person speaks fairly slowly.
lemons at 9:44AM on 10/06/08
I'm from New England, and I've never heard the "sh" sound. I've always said "gross-ree."
embolini9 at 10:30AM on 10/06/08
Oh wait! I just said it out loud, and I guess sometimes I do say "groh-shree." Maybe more often than not...yup, I definitely say "sh." Now I'm the crazy girl sitting at her desk saying "grocery" to herself.
embolini9 at 10:32AM on 10/06/08
I'm laughing out loud in my office alone, laughing at your description of saying "grocery" alone at your desk. It's infectious!
Cassaendra at 12:45PM on 10/06/08
@hmlicata, I'm from Chicago, too (suburbs, actually), and I don't recall the "sh" sound. But maybe it evolved over time, much like the name of the city itself. When I was growing up in there, everyone said Shicago, but after MJ got on the news, people picked up his habit of starting it with the harder "ch" sound, like in "chicken."
I recall one heated conversation about the correct way to say "garage" with the contentious part being the last "g." It seemed like it was a north-side, south-side division.
dbcurrie at 1:21PM on 10/06/08
i think i say grocery both ways now that i, too am talking aloud to myself.
the big question tho:
do you pronounce coupon as "koo-pon" or "kyou-pon"?
i've always been of the "kyou-pon" variety.
gastronomeg at 1:28PM on 10/06/08
I say "kyu" as well.
I watched a cooking show last weekend and I noticed the person pronouncing fettucine pronounced with an "ay" at the end instead of "ee." It makes sense with the way it's spelled, not sure why I've been saying it with an "ee" at the end.
Cassaendra at 1:47PM on 10/06/08
Groshree store here, although after saying it several times, I'm realizing that it sounds a little like both: gross-shree with a definite 's' at the end of the first syllable and a 'sh' sound at the beginning of the second syllable. Hard to describe but I'm hearing both.
@gastronomeg...I say kyou-pon, too.
holdthemayo at 1:48PM on 10/06/08
another escaped chicago suburbanite saying grow-sir-ee.
btw, how do you pronounce "sherbet"?
cybercita at 1:54PM on 10/06/08
You're going to touch upon a major pet peeve of mine, Cybercita~
"sher-bet"
It drives me crazy when I hear people say, "sher-bert." ARGH!!!
Cassaendra at 3:05PM on 10/06/08
And spellling caramel "carmel"? But we digress...how unusual!
lemons at 3:10PM on 10/06/08
@cyber, blame my parents. THEY said "sherbert." And I thought that's how it was spelled. First time I saw "Sherbet" in print, I thought it was something different.
So yeah, I say it wrong, even though I know it's wrong. It just comes out that way, and then I cringe. However, I don't say it often, because I like ice cream better.
dbcurrie at 3:19PM on 10/06/08
hmm -- native new englander here too.
but i say gro-shur-ee and coo-pon.
perhaps my midwestern parents are to blame?
megannesta at 3:20PM on 10/06/08
My neighbors who live kitty-cornered from me next to the nucular power plant would go to the grossry store as a famlee to buy sherbert, catsup and expresso with their kewpons :-) (PA here)
Josdean at 4:45PM on 10/06/08
We need gro-shu-rees, but I never seem to have any Koo-pons.
Raised in VA.
wookie at 5:01PM on 10/06/08
I say coo-pon, sherbet. Another New Englander here.
izatryt at 5:45PM on 10/06/08
I go to the gro-sir-ee store because I need gross-crees. On the second syllable of the latter, you can almost hear the c. Guess I say both, but never, ever include sh and can't ever remember hearing it pronounced that way. Sometimes I cash in coo-pons and other times kew-pons, so both there also. Hate to admit this, but I'm a caramel and occasionally a carmel (candies) girl. My famlee (YIKES - I SAY THAT!) likes sherbert (where did I leave that gun?), but we always eat ketchup and drink espresso. I guess I've been contaminated by PA-NJ-NY. At least I didn't pick up Murray Chris-miss, and Churry Hill. I live near a nuclear power plant and that word gets mutilated. That stupid plant is what brought me here when my husband got transferred. Maybe I should move to Bimmington, NY? ;0
PerkyMac at 5:53PM on 10/06/08
we say gotta go to the Piggly Wiggly!!!!!!!!
jobug_tincher at 6:33PM on 10/06/08
Grossery, groshery, and the odd market (too many British sitcoms/TV shows)
renoles at 7:03PM on 10/06/08
I'm totally laughing my butt off right now.
I have small children, so it's The Food Store--as opposed to The Mall, The Cat Food Store, and That Store That Has The Snacks I Like (Rite Aid).
Carmel is a nice place to go on vacation. If you have lots of money.
I say coo-pon but hardly ever use them. My mom is from Brooklyn, NY, where donkeys are "dunkeys" and oranges are "ah-ranges". How about en-velopes vs. ahn-velopes? Any thoughts there?
buffy at 7:18PM on 10/06/08
@buffy ~ ORange and ENvelope are just wrong. It is are -ng and ahn-velope. And, as noted on another post - Nurk Airport. Murree Chris-miss.
PerkyMac at 7:32PM on 10/06/08
Brooklynite Mr. Meatloaf uses the traditional AH-mund for that oval nut. But then he also calls it Madison SQUARE Garden instead of Madison Square GAR-den.
And hasn't anyone heard of fambly?
lemons at 7:48PM on 10/06/08
Northeaster Ohio...
grow-sir-ee
coo-pin ala Ron White and the Blue Collar Comedy Tour!
I plan on making some salted care-ah-mels in the next week or so!
ChelleyD01 at 8:31PM on 10/06/08
omg, i just thought of another one... a midwestern one. my stepmother had an outgoing message on her answering machine that said "i DIN'T want to miss your call."
who says din't?
cybercita at 9:05PM on 10/06/08
hee hee hee. piggly wiggly. that's a blast from the past. it still makes me giggle. in my part of ri. we say gotta go to the store. and it's always cuupon. sometimes clipped out, usually ripped out, seldom used , always expired scrap of paper. ar-enge shurbit is pretty good.
dearrie at 9:10PM on 10/06/08
Ya'll, I'm LMAO here. I actually have had neighbors that said fambly. My very own family says sherbert. How about "warsh"... I'm gonna warsh my car today. Have you heard "ort"? Hey Bubba, you ort(ought) to get a job. My father says receipt instead of recipe. This is sir us lee too funny! My family thinks I'm nuts just sitting here at the computer saying grocery over and over, laughing so hard that I'm about to split a gut.
floridagirl at 9:33PM on 10/06/08
Warsh is very rural Missouri, and of course, that means Warshington, DC, and Warshington, MO, too. The real old-tiimers talked about the kitchen "zink", and I was shocked when I moved to St. Louis and discovered that some of the old ladies here called it that, too - "It's the German, dearie!" was the response.
So what's the piece of cloth that you use with soap and water? The one for dishes? How about the one you use in the showe? And what's the thing you use to dry the stuff you don't throw in the dishwasher, like your good knives?
lemons at 9:55PM on 10/06/08
This native Texan frequently goes to the gro-sher-ee store to buy or-enge sherbert and cetch-up, usually without a kewpon. I love to eat car-mels. I use a dish rag to wash my dishes and a wash rag in the shower (I had to train my mom NOT to say warsh). I mail letters in en-velopes. In December, I wish every one a Merry Chrismuss.
I did a quiz once that said I had the kind of neutral Western accent that was probably due to me being born in Texas after 1980. As long as my hick family isn't around, I guess its right. When they're around though...oh geez.
HeatherB at 10:56PM on 10/06/08
@buffy, when i worked in brooklyn, the children would correct my pronunciation of "awrange" and tell me "it's AHrinch!'.
they would also correct me when i said, go sit at the table. "it's BY the table!" they insisted. { "bei" means "at" in yiddish and german.}
i had an aunt who said "warsh", and "sherbert" and "groshery". she was from rural ell-a-noise. as a child, i thought she was from mars.
cybercita at 11:11PM on 10/06/08
I've heard that what happens is the dropped r's from Massachusets and Maine (i.e. "pahk the cah") wind up in "Warshington".
@floridagirl: do your neighbors also say "Wal-Mark"? My Palmetto in-laws do.
buffy at 11:48PM on 10/06/08
@ Buffy, I knew a few people who insisted it was Wall-market.
My father was a stickler for pronunciation after spending countless hours as a teen listening to the radio and practicing to lose his "foreign" accent (He was born here, but his parents spoke no English, and his siblings all had a distinct accent. He didn't.) And he is the only person I ever knew who pronounced the "h" in words like "what" and "when."
My mother, on the other hand, grew up in Pittsburgh PA and had that accent. While she lost a great deal of it after living in Chicago for many years, you could always tell when she'd been talking to her sister in AP, because the accent would come back a little stronger for a while.
dbcurrie at 2:07AM on 10/07/08
Definitely groSSery here...Never even heard of the "sh" pronunciation, weirdos. Just kidding! :)
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Chew on That at 12:04PM on 10/07/08
Eastern NC here. My rural kin pronounce it graw-SHREE and KYOU-pawn, although I've learned to round my short o's.
Of course, it's usually just, "hey, we need to go to the store."
jenilowrance at 12:24PM on 10/07/08
I can't believe how funny this has become.
When my then boyfriend now husband began joining my family for the holidays he asked how to say Merry Christmas in Korean. I dead-panned: "Meddy Kuh-rees-mas-uh"
Cracks up us kids up, but the older generation doesn't get it bc to them it's how it sounds.
wookie at 12:47PM on 10/07/08
SoCal born and raised...
I don't use the word grocery often (I generally go to the supermarket or the market or even just to the store). When I do use it, it's because I have to do some gross-ree shopping or I'm running out to get some gro-sir-ees. Two or three syllables, maybe, but never an SH sound.
Hubby's from TN and he says grosh-ree store (he also says hosepipe for garden hose). People around there also eat okrey (okra) and plant peeOHnees in their flower beds.
I'm pretty sure my dad says grosh-rees, but his dad was from Lucyanna, so he picked up few random regional words, even though he was born and raised in CA. Things like ungyun (onion), heelocopter, motorsickle, etc.
My mom was born in NJ and raised mostly in TX, but lived all over the world (USAF brat), so you can definitely rely on her to be completely inconsistent in her regionally-specific pronunciations! I'm not sure if she says it with an S or an SH, but I know she'll tell you that she was born in AHR-annge, NJ.
Not sure why, but there a lot of words I don't say like ee-thur (them) or eye-thur (me) of my parents. Probably because I've always been a bit OCD about my pronunciation (except possum and punkin, two bad habits I can't seem to break). I also have a thing about adopting words and pronunciations just because I like the way they sound (yes, I know I'm a troubled girl).
BTW... on the rare occasion that I actually use them, I only take koo-ponns to the supermarket. Pretty sure my dad takes kyoo-ponns, which is one of those things that drives me a little bit nutso.
LoCo at 12:56PM on 10/07/08
A few of many, many others...
bay-kree or bay-ker-ee?
vej-tubb-ull or or vej-eh-tubb-ull?
green beans or string beans?
PEE-cann or PEE-cahn or peh-CANN or peh-CAHN?
peas or green peas? (generally to distinguish from field, blackeye, crowder)
sand-wich or san-wich or sam-wich?
LoCo at 1:25PM on 10/07/08
My skin crawls when I hear local newscasters - yes, newscasters! saying "shtreet" instead of "street".
Syracuse raised here; it's grocery with an "s" sound. Koo-pons, not kew-pons.
moibec at 1:35PM on 10/07/08
I have always been fascinated by pronunciations and regionalisms, so this thread is so much fun to read. I've also realized that I have picked-up the Philly way of reducing syllables to as few as possible. So bakery would be bake ree, Now I'm going to listen carefully to my whole famdambly, who tease me because I've lived in this area longer. I may go put my head in the ice box since I don't have a gas oven.. Hey izatryt - is your oven gas? Give me the address and I'll stop by after I go food shopping at the ummm....... thstore (acquiring a lithsp).
@wookie ~ I fell off my chair!
PerkyMac at 1:50PM on 10/07/08
It's a wonder we know what other people are saying. As far as sand-witches, I've also heard sang-wich and sand-widge. I think I actually say something between sand-wich and sand-widge. I'll have to listen to myself later.
I usually say "green beans" because just "beans" doesn't do it, and string beans have sort of disappeared from markets. Or at least the green beans have been bred to be stringless, which is fine with me.
Yellow beans could also be wax beans.
Peas are usually green peas unless they're with carrots, because that's a known enitity.
Some words, I know I say both (or multiple) ways depending on who I'm talking to, and what other words are nearby. And some things, I know I used to say differently. It used to be kyoo-pon but now coo-pons are more likely.
Funny thing is that if you just say the word all alone, it can be a lot different than when you use it in conversation. I know people who swear they pronounce the "day" at the end of Monday, Tuesday, etc., and they do when they're reading off the days of the week. But in a sentence, it's "Do you want to come over Frydee night?"
dbcurrie at 1:51PM on 10/07/08
@moibec ~ I was surprised when I lived in Syracuse (the ays are nasal in many words, very much like Chicago) that no one ever said avenue - it was always just av. The folks lived on Maple Av. Since Philadelphians shorten everything, I wonder why they haven't adapted that? If you ask directions, they send you N
@LoCo ~ I think I say pee KAHN. I feel like an idiot sitting here practicing words like grocery and string beans and vej tuh bull.
PerkyMac at 2:02PM on 10/07/08
HEY. The end of my first paragraph disappeared. It said, they give you directions by sending you N,S,E,W, so many blocks, but they never say go right or left. That made me craaazzzyyyy. It's easier now with all of our new toys, but back in the 60's & 70's, my brain didn't work that way.
@db ~ now you've got me saying days of the week. I think it's time for a home for me. ;)
PerkyMac at 2:08PM on 10/07/08
But most importantly; how do you pronounce, NUCLEAR?
LMAO. Great thread!!
jdmcdonald at 2:21PM on 10/07/08
I'm in SW Ontario, Canada. I say "gro-shree" but the sh is very short, not drawn out. Koo-pon, sherbet, and care-a-mel.
blush at 3:35PM on 10/07/08
OMG... thanks for mentioning nuclear... that is one of my all time biggest pet peeves ever. It's pretty pathetic when one of the guys whose fingers are on the button (George W) says noo-kyoo-lur... AAAaaaarrrrghhh...
Oh, must add... I do say KETCH-up, OH-rennj (most people around here say OHRNJ, one syllable), PEE-cahn, AHL-mund (my parents say AL-mund with a short a), AHN-velope, VEJ-uh-tuh-bull (four syllables, although the second one is barely there), and AIP-rih-cott (not APP-rih-cott).
Hubby has spent nearly 30 years consciously and successfully losing most of his TN accent. But he still frequently says WARSH.
So. How do you say Worcestershire? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
(Me, I say WURSS-ter-shur)
p.s., the past tense of sneak is sneaked, not snuck... i feel better now...
LoCo at 3:50PM on 10/07/08
@ LoCo ~ I still can't say Worcestershire!!!
@wookie ~ I have tears, I am laughing so hard!!
izatryt at 5:13PM on 10/07/08
This is too fun! Here in Pgh. we worsh the dishes with a worsh rag but dry them with a dish towel. Our gross-ree store is Giant iggle (eagle) or - yikes - Big Bird. We use gum bands, not rubber bands, drink pop, not soda and do not pronounce the g at the end of doin', goin, and similar verbs. I brought up nuclear because I worked with nuclear engineers and even THEY said new-kew-lir! When dealing with out-of-town visitors, I was conscious to clean up my vernacular. But back with the famlee, um goin' back to the lazy "G". Yins are rilly crackin' me up!
Josdean at 5:53PM on 10/07/08
@Josdean, when my Aunt came to visit from Pgh, she nearly drove the deli guy crazy when she asked him for jumbo. He thought she was nuts, she was thinking he was an idjit, and after a lot of pointing, she got her bologna.
Oh, and then there's chipped-chopped ham, one of my favorite Pittsburgh deli meats.
dbcurrie at 6:44PM on 10/07/08
@Josdean--the president says new-kew-ler. What does that say about him? Maybe that's why they never found any WOMD--they didn't know what they were looking for?
@wookie--omg, that made my stomach hurt!
buffy at 7:20PM on 10/07/08
I usually say woosta sheer shire sauce. Why does the Pittsburgh accent remind me so much of Governor Palin (or is it Tina Fey - I keep gettin' them up mixed)? Yuze are closer to Alaska than I thought.
@Josdean ~ gum band is a new one. Can you chew it and blow pink bubbles?
Time to go fix me some vittles. Now where in heaven's name did that word come from??? Got me some vej tah bulls and taters, so ah'll slap me a meal ta gether en fix up this empty gut. Y'all come back now, hear?
PerkyMac at 7:24PM on 10/07/08
OMG, I LOL'd down the whole length of this thread! So many colloquial pronunciations! And I added a few more.
For me it's Gro-ser-ee.
I detest NEW-q-ler.
I also detest WAR-shing-ton.
I got corrected by many a southerner, so I say puh-KAHN. (And prah-LEEN, for that matter.)
I get tortured for my NYese way of saying AH-rinj but won't change it no matter WHERE I live.
I say AP-ri-cot (short "a") not APE-ri-cot.
BAY-ker-ee
String Beans
Peas
KOO-pon (not KEW-pon)
For the Brooklynites - how about:
AIG for egg?
TER-let for toilet?
BERL for boil?
ERL for oil?
The steam thing in apartment buildings that kept us warm was the RA-dee-ay-tor. (Short "a")
Mention was made above of SHTREET for street but how about CHWisted for "twisted."
I also thought it was SHER-bert, not SHER-bet until I saw it in print on the container.
How about li-vuh-WOOSH instead of liverwurst?
TERN-a-ment for Tournament??
As for me personally, I say "open" the light and "close" the light. My dad was an Italian immigrant and "turn on" translated to "open" for him.
One more thing Re: Newscasters... My mother always had a fit when a weatherman would say "FOIL-age" season instead of "FO-lee-ij" season. Another one that got her goat was when a broadcaster would say, "The Macy*s Day Parade." She'd say, "It's the Macy*s Thankgiving Day parade! Macy*s doesn't get a day!!"
therealchiffonade at 8:17PM on 10/07/08
@Perky, guess wir closer ta 'Laska than we thaut, awl tho Palin/Fey sound more like She-CAA-go and Pixburg combined. No Isaly's chipped ham for her. She'll be shootin' dinner from a helicaawpter.
No, we don't swallow gum bands, but I can't attest to the fact we don't chew'um:-).
Also, N'orlans lost Monday Night football against Minasoda.
Josdean at 1:05AM on 10/08/08
@ Buffy... I'm doubled over with laughter! The wal-mark thing is really hysterical. There are many people around "my neck of the woods" that say that. Are "palmetto inlaws" from Florida? Hence the palmetto? If so, that is too funny.I have never heard that, but I "shore nuff" like it! This has definately been my favorite thread. I could not wait to get home from work so that I could read more silly stuff. AAAHHHH! Life is GOOD! :)
floridagirl at 2:34PM on 10/08/08
If I say the word I say gro ser ee. Being from the Pac. N.W. the word "salmon" is always done wrong. My mother being from the old country would alsways say "sal mon" as in sol mon, but the correct way is sa mon, no let "L" even near the word the "A" pronounced as in the name Sally.
pjracz10 at 10:34PM on 10/08/08
So. How do you say Worcestershire?
My mother used to say woosta-sheer, and that's how I learned to say it. Now, I just say "Lea and Perrins."
dbcurrie at 12:22AM on 10/09/08
Lea and Perrins, I won't even go there.
pjracz10 at 12:32AM on 10/09/08