Hershey's removes Cocoa Butter from candy.
Due to higher cost of ingredients, Hershey's is removing Cocoa Butter from many of it's popular chocolate candies, and replacing it with cheaper Vegetable Oil.
The package labels are changing too, because the FDA says anything containing vegetable oils cannot be called "Milk Chocolate".
Watch the Today Show / MSNBC video here.
Yikes! :(
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59 Comments:
Well that sucks. Looks like I will be switching to another chocolate bar, at least the milk choc.
pjracz10 at 2:15AM on 09/22/08
It didn't taste waxy enough? What a stupid decision.
therealchiffonade at 5:01AM on 09/22/08
I don't think they realize folks would probably pay a little extra to keep the formula the way it's always been. Besides, it's not as though they're likely making enough profit anyways. This is what happens when you put bureaucrats in charge of the candy shoppe.
LunaPierCook at 5:21AM on 09/22/08
typical! if its not broken by all mean fix it. oh well thats ok I prefer Dove dark when i need a choc fix anyway.
huneybumper at 7:10AM on 09/22/08
Looks like I will not be investing in anything Hershey's. Like Luna, I am willing to pay more for the real thing.
Lilartist at 7:54AM on 09/22/08
Make your own candy! It's much more delicious, because YOU control the quality of the ingredients, and it's not processed... you know what's in it, so it's healthier, too.
It's not hard at all.
Brownie at 8:34AM on 09/22/08
Lets see cuting corners to save a buck or two...ehhhmm moving their factorys south of the boarders for cheaper labor and still cutting corners on product, sounds more like greed than quality
Markbb at 8:53AM on 09/22/08
I hate to say this but I never eat Hershey chocolate. I don't even eat the kisses. I was always a Nestle's kid. The chocolate was waxy and now its going to be waxier. They can keep it.
JerzeeTomato at 9:22AM on 09/22/08
Hershey's was never an upscale chocolate and as far as I know they never tried to be.
What they were, though - was a brand that represented the "Great American Middle-Class".
And that doesn't work too well anymore in terms of being competitive. A thing has to have an upscale buzz about it or alternately a hint of the el cheapo. No more middle-of-the-road.
They've chosen the el-cheapo route. Sad. For "Hershey's" was something that did mean something pretty much okay to lots of people.
Of course that was before one had to start faking European names for American ice creams in order to sell them widely and for good profit.
Vegetable oil. Aaaargh. Grim.
foodvox at 9:37AM on 09/22/08
I can say that as a food regulatory specialist,
This is a move many large companies take to reduce production costs. And actually as a consumer; always check the label for "CHOCOLATE" or "CHOCOLATE FLAVOUR"...that's the difference ; )
hungrychristel at 10:56AM on 09/22/08
I was told a while ago that Hershey's had bought out Godiva. Does anyone know if this is so? (Nothing on Google)
If it is so, I wonder what it will mean for the quality of the Godiva brand?
Brownie at 11:08AM on 09/22/08
Brownie - Hershey's does not own Godiva. (They do own Scharffen Berger, Dagoba and Joseph Schmidt though.)
hungry - the thing about Hershey's is that they're continuing to say that their products are "made with chocolate" even though they've diluted it with vegetable oils. So it's confusing, especially when the packaging isn't obvious.
Jerzee - I've heard a few folks say they prefer Nestles - which products do you like (I want to know what I should start trying).
LunaPier - the thing that wasn't mentioned in that story is that Hershey's has raised their wholesale prices twice this year. So they are charging more and that's what's sad. When the price goes up, I expect to at least get what I used to get, not something inferior.
Cybele May at 11:13AM on 09/22/08
They closed their beloved plant in Smiths Falls, Ontario (about 40 K from where I live) and I knew such horrible changes were on the horizon. I always gave out Hershey`s chocolate for Halloween - they made an assortment that were nut free that I always looked for. No more, I should guess.
Maureen at 11:42AM on 09/22/08
Thanks for the update cybelle;
for sure the package decieves the consumer, I hope Hershey's are aware that there are some of us (their market) that value the fact that their chcolate is original and true to it's name;
Also, I knew they bought out Dagoba; and I hope the quality remains the same--they're great especially for baking.
hungrychristel at 11:54AM on 09/22/08
Also worth noting is that not all of their products are making the switch.
I got those quotes from this MSNBC article.
capndesign at 12:29PM on 09/22/08
Hey, it's the Candy Queen herself, Cybele. :)
For those not aware, Cybele is the founder/creator of the Candy Blog and the person being interviewed during that story on The Today Show.
FastFoodCritic at 12:30PM on 09/22/08
Maureen they also closed their plant near me; in Oakdale, CA. The job loss was really bad.
We got some wonderful real chocolate at Costco the other day - I'm so not into all the junk companies are putting into our food! If I want vegetable oil and chocolate I'll just mix some cocoa powder into some wesson oil - NOT!!!
Fanciesmom at 12:43PM on 09/22/08
capndesign - Hershey's other mockolate products: 5th Avenue, Payday Chocolatey Avalanche*, Reese's Nutrageous, ReeseSticks, Reese's Whipps*, Reese's Crispy Crunchy Bar*, Take 5 & Whoppers*.
(* were never real chocolate products)
While they say their packages are clearly labeled, I've found instances where they're mislabeled, and their website is a huge mess of contradictions - mostly erring on the side of misleading the consumer that they're eating a product with cocoa butter.
As for Hershey's statements, they also said:
I don't know what these preferred high-quality oils are, but Palm Oil is not one of them and that's what they're using in combination with safflower, sunflower and palm kernel oil.
The local paper to Hershey, the Harrisburg Patriot News did a follow up story on the NBC piece:
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2008/09/a_consumer_segment_on_nbcs.html
In other news, Hershey's has changed their Milk Chocolate recipe. It started in 2006 with the addition of PGPR (an additional emulsifier) to some chocolate coatings like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups and KitKat, then Hershey's Kisses. It is not found in most new Hershey's Milk Chocolate Bars (though both versions are on shelves if you look sharp).
hungry - as far as I know Dagoba is as good as ever. Some folks have told me that Scharffen Berger isn't the same, I don't think that has as much to do with Hershey's involvement as the fact that they are simply growing and don't make all the chocolate in one place any longer.
Cybele May at 12:50PM on 09/22/08
Until last December, Godiva was owned by the Campbell Soup people (surprise!). At that time, Godiva was sold to a Turkish company. Hershey's had been interested in Godiva but the deal didn't happen.
holdthemayo at 12:59PM on 09/22/08
Is that even chocolate anymore? The thought of mockolate, chocolate flavored product or what not is nauseating...
fuuchan at 1:12PM on 09/22/08
cybele - thanks for all that info. As for Scharfen Berger, I visited their factory in Berkeley about a year ago and the chocolate was as delicious as ever. Of course, this was obviously coming direct from that location. They did say that no recipes or sources have changed, so I bet your suspicion is correct. Either way, I'm not going to stop eating Scharfen Berger — it's damn fine chocolate.
capndesign at 1:23PM on 09/22/08
For various reasons, I've ended up with a copy of Milton Hershey's 1959 biography. The comapny has seen hard times before, even when he was still around. However, the company adjusted while leaving the formula alone. For a man who figured out his own formula for milk chocolate over a period of years, having someone so blatantly change things for the purposes of accounting would have driven a stake through his heart.
LunaPierCook at 1:37PM on 09/22/08
@Brownie -- when you say, "make your own candy," don't you need to buy chocolate that's already made? Or are you saying that you buy cocoa beans and grind them?
dbcurrie at 3:17PM on 09/22/08
Well, I've always thought Hershey's was grainy, waxy, and nasty anyway. This just gives me another reason NOT to eat it. I'll stick with Dove, Lindt, and Ghirardelli's and be happy to pay whatever they charge.
buffy at 4:30PM on 09/22/08
Well, at least the next time I go the the Hershey Hotel Spa, my chocolate body wrap will be more moisturizing for my skin, right?
izatryt at 6:00PM on 09/22/08
LOL izatryt: what? chocolate body wrap???!!! Sounds extremely dangerous [in a semi-sweet way] :)
hungrychristel at 6:06PM on 09/22/08
It is a great spa. We have gone a number of times. I get the chocolate sugar scrub, followed by the chocolate wrap, a chocolate oil massage and than I relax with a wicked good chocolate martini!
izatryt at 6:12PM on 09/22/08
ohh yeah babyyyyy I have the body scrub at the spa and ohh did I smell GOOD! I wanted to lick my skin all day :)
http://luv2cooktoomuch.blogspot.com/ ">luv2cook
love2cook at 8:45PM on 09/22/08
hersheys chocolate tastes weird and gives me bad breath anyway, not a fan of the chalkiness or sourness of it. bleech
the_o at 8:50PM on 09/22/08
"I get the chocolate sugar scrub, followed by the chocolate wrap, a chocolate oil massage... "
"ohh yeah babyyyyy I have the body scrub at the spa and ohh did I smell GOOD! I wanted to lick my skin all day"
Personally, I feel all women should be covered in a thin edible layer of chocolate.
FastFoodCritic at 2:29AM on 09/23/08
Personally, I feel all women should be covered in a thin edible layer of chocolate.
@FFC--I think men would benefit from the same.
Anyway, back to the "chocolate." I don't eat those kinds of candies anymore, but every year around Halloween, I load up on bags and bags of those types of candies. Now, I feel like I have to abandon the old stand-bys and buy some other type of treat. It sucks though. Back when I was a kid, chocolate candy bars were the real score. Now, I'm thinking I shouldn't get chocolate, but maybe now-n-laters or starbursts.
Anyone else switching up?
wookie at 4:00AM on 09/23/08
Wookie!
Hey, nice to see you! :)
FastFoodCritic at 6:10AM on 09/23/08
@FFC how did you know what my halloween costume is?! ;-) a well actually fairly thick layer of chocolate. completely edible, I thought about a bacon bikini but settled on chocolate instead. hmmm maybe a bacon bikini over a layer of chocolate? ;-)
huneybumper at 7:18AM on 09/23/08
"...fairly thick layer of chocolate. completely edible, I thought about a bacon bikini but settled on chocolate instead. hmmm maybe a bacon bikini over a layer of chocolate?"
Ohhhhhhh.... my... YES. :-o
FastFoodCritic at 7:51AM on 09/23/08
For the record, I want it noted... the women started this whole thing.
It wasn't me this time. I was just trying to keep up. You can't blame me for that.
I posted an innocent thread about chocolate, and these temptresses have turned it into something else.
Shameful... SHAMEFUL I tell you!
FastFoodCritic at 8:02AM on 09/23/08
@FFC ~ You know what they say about women and chocolate! You ARE encouraging the temptresses!
Some day after a couple of chocolate martinis I will tell you all about the first chocolate conversation I had with my husband when we were dating. ;-O
izatryt at 8:23AM on 09/23/08
i see nothing shameful in this conversation. but then according to someone i'm freaky with what i do with chocolate;-)
huneybumper at 8:36AM on 09/23/08
@FFC, I think a serious issue would be that you specialize in rapidly-completed edibles ... ;-)
What's happening with Hershey is, unfortunately, more widespread in companies that are swallowed up by others. Rubbermaid is moving the Calphalon pot-and-pan plant from its founding location in Perrysburg, OH. This morning it was announced Merillat's founding plant in Adrian, MI is closing with a few employees relocating to the new parent company., So how long before Hershey, now being obviously run by accountants and out-of-touch execs, gets swallowed up by, say, Kraft, and ends up closing the original factory to consolidate operations elsewhere at their convenience?
LunaPierCook at 8:50AM on 09/23/08
Hey freaky chocolate talk! ; )
Wow, it's facinating to see where these conversations end up LOL
hungrychristel at 10:11AM on 09/23/08
I always thought hershey's tasted liked waxed chocolate flavor dirt. So no big loss.
bisbee at 10:56AM on 09/23/08
They might as well stop making the milk chocolate if it's not going to have cocoa butter in it. What's the point?
trueepicure at 11:38AM on 09/23/08
wookie--it's funny, I was just contemplating what I should get kids for Halloween--I really hate pure sugar candy, though, so I think I will stick with Mars (M&Ms and so forth) and apprpos Jerzee Nestle (Butterfingers).
I usually only get very high quality, high concentrated dark chocolate for myself (like Endangered Species 88%) but the only think that might make me think twice this Halloween are Reeces PB cups which seem to= Halloween for me, even though they are Hershey's. In the case of the cups, it's the grainy pb, not the chocolate that is the draw.
I've never liked the taste of Hershey's chocolate straight up, even as a kid--I wonder why they are doing this, given how stiff the competition is now, even for lower-priced chocolate. I thought they were trying to market more 'high end' rather than low end stuff, given most of their newly released lines.
HeartofGlass at 7:13PM on 09/23/08
How sad, something that's been an old stand-by from childhood, falling to the bean counter mentality. Oh well, I usually eat dark chocolate these days anyway.
Tonecat at 8:47PM on 09/23/08
Hershey's sucks the big weenie anyways. I only use their semi-sweet chips for cooking/baking anyway.
BITTER at 10:42PM on 09/23/08
@therealchiffonade : Seriously! They're not changing it in the solid bars or the plain kisses but otherwise it's all fair game. I think I'm going to be switching to another brand too. Cadbury's seems nice and creamy delicious, and I've always been a Nastle fan. Stupid Hersheys! *I wave my fist at thee!*
Stufsocker at 2:56PM on 09/24/08
I got a box of Whoppers the other day as a "welcome treat" when I checked into a hotel. First Whoppers I've had in at least 5 years, and I wondered why they tasted so weird & nasty and not at all how I remembered them. Guess the absence of actual chocolate explains the difference.
Alas, we live in fallen times.
benbenberi at 3:34PM on 09/24/08
Interesting, I wonder how the taste will change. I am not a Hersheys fan, I much prefer Lindt dark chocolate bars, although I have been know to devour a few kisses here and there :)
SavoryTv at 6:34PM on 09/26/08
I was always a Nestle gal. Their plain chocolate bars always tasted sweeter and melted faster in your hand than the waxy Hershey counterpart. Now I eat the good stuff, although I had a chocolate emergency the other night. All I had on hand were Hershey semi-sweet morsels. Ugggg! They just didn't cut it. I vow, as God is my judge, to never eat crappy chocolate again! (posing with fist in air like Scarlet O'Hara) :P
Josdean at 8:01PM on 09/26/08
Why don't they just sell the wrapper alone, I'm sure it would taste better than the "new and improved" Hershey's bar. Please, gimme a Lindt truffle any day.
gkrucia at 10:09PM on 09/26/08
Great. Now I've got a serious jones for Lindt truffles, and we're all out. Better run over to Rite Aid.
buffy at 7:43PM on 09/27/08
During the past few years, my tastes have definitely changed. I used to love cheap candy - Hershey's, M&Ms, etc. but now they all taste like the garbage they are made of. Definitely not worth the calories. I have become a true chocolate LOVER. The higher the cocoa content, the better! I even love the 85% bars! Just a little bite satisfies even the most intense cravings instead of bringing on a raging binge. There really IS something to be said about high quality food vs. highly processed chemicals masquerading as food.
asuezf at 9:05PM on 09/27/08
I seriously hope that this doesn't drive more people to become loyal Nestle fans. Does anyone recall the boycott of Nestle product that started in the 70s?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestlé_boycott
hypedesign at 1:30PM on 09/29/08
I have heard, due to hundreds of complaints, that Hershey's is re thinking using veg. oil.
Also, in recent months, the price of veg. oil has doubled...how much more expensive is cocoa butter than veg. oil?
AG4JAZZ at 2:08PM on 09/29/08
i dont even eat the stuff, but thats still depressing.
so what will hersheys kisses say on them? milk chocolate flavored kisses?
maybe they wouldnt have to worry about this is they didnt come out with so many obscure, unadvertized, stupid new candies. it seems every time i enter wallgreens i see a new, unnecessary hersheys product. has anyone else noticed this?
delilah at 12:07AM on 09/30/08
Sorry to the Buffy.. hope you got the hazelnut one heheh. Anyone think that dove's milk chocolates are pretty good for that kinda of stuff?
gkrucia at 10:05AM on 09/30/08
I love dove milk chocolates, and the dark chocolates for that matter. It's very smooth and rich. We always keep a couple bags of the morsels in the freezer and panic ensues if there's only 1/2 a bag left.
Also, I discovered a wonderful thing while I was at Rite Aid getting my Lindt truffles :) Lindt has a chocolate bar made of 70% cacao with chocolate mousse and cherry-chili filling. Oh. My. God.
buffy at 8:22PM on 09/30/08
have you had the creme brulee chocolate bar... *faints* i love anything with caramel and chocolate. Yummmmmmmmmm I remember the first time i have Dove dark, i didnt even realise they were dark. We used to buy a bag when i was in Fl and drive from Miami to Sawgrass eating the whooole bag hahahah how horrible, no? *sign*
gkrucia at 8:34AM on 10/04/08
Want to know something even worse? Call Hershey's and ask them if anything in their products is imported from China? You will NOT get the answer, which, I assume, means that it does. Need your des of melaie today? If so, have a few Hershey bars.
I will NEVER buy this crap again.
citigreg at 1:11PM on 10/07/08
I am a big fan of all the Mars candies. Look at the label. Says sugar then cocoa butter on almost every one of them from M&M's to Snickers and Dove. I noticed that Hershey's now hides the ingredients under the flap on most of their items. Also the candy is made in the US. Hershey's is not. They just announced today that they are closing the Scharfenberger and Joseph Schmidt plants in SF and Berkely and firing everyone. Will probably move it to China or wherever, like all their other "chocolate"
julibug at 4:40AM on 01/29/09