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Table Manners III: Do you eat European or American-style...

...with your knife and fork?

Spawned from another thread--I've always been fascinated by the difference. American style involves switching your fork from your non-dominant to your dominant hand after cutting the meat, European style does not. For a full explanation:

"There is an American style and the European or Continental style for eating your food. Either style is considered appropriate.

In the American style, you cut your food by holding the knife in your right hand and your fork in the left hand with the fork tines holding the food to the plate. Cut a few bite-size pieces of food, and then lay your knife across the top edge of your plate with the sharp edge of the blade facing in. Change your fork from your left to your right hand to eat, fork tines facing up. (If you are left-handed, keep your fork in your left hand, tines facing up.)

The European or Continental style is the same as the American style in that you cut your meat by holding your knife in your right hand while securing your food with your fork in your left hand. But, your fork remains in your left hand, tines facing down, and the knife in your right hand. Simply eat the cut pieces of food by picking them up with your fork still in your left hand with the tines facing down."
Source: http://www.pomona.edu/cdo/students/interview/etiquette/

I was brought up American style, but when I lived in England sometimes I'd use the European style. Also, do you think you should change styles based upon where or the majority of the table with whom you are dining?

54 Comments:

I am left handed and have been told I eat in the European way. For me it is natural.

I'm a right-handed American born in Newark NJ .. but grew up with my Swedish grandmother and German grandfather. I eat European style.

American style. I have tried the European style while traveling and I could not get used to it. Personally, I have no real opinion on "style" as it isn't really a manners issue. I respect everyone's culture differences as long as they in turn respect others.

I use the American style, and my Mother taught me good table manners.

That said, if anybody ever implied I was doing it wrong... I would probably put down the silverware all together, grab the meat with my hands, and gnaw away at it like a hungry dog. I would also make lots of grunting noises, and lick the plate clean.

People are starving all across the world. Who the hell cares whether somebody use the proper fork or spoon, or whether they hold it correctly. I'd rather eat with someone who scoops food into their mouth using a giant nose-ring-spoon, face buried in the plate... than somebody playing the role of etiquette police.

Table manners were strictly enforced when I was growing up and I appreciated knowing how to behave when dining out or at other people's homes. I taught my children the same, and now my daughter is strict with her child. It's civility! We all were also coached in the proper way to set a table, even just for a family supper, it had to be correct.

When I got married, my husband appreciated learning manners that he hadn't been taught at home. He was a college grad, yet embarrassed by poor grammar and table manners. We're doing our children a favor to teach them.

I noticed you said that its acceptable to cut a few bite size pieces. We were taught to cut one piece at a time. Same with bread. One bite sized piece, buttered or not. My father sat next to me at the table, and on the rare occasion when I lifted an elbow to the table, his hand instantly removed it.

I've been to restaurants with my toddler granddaughter. If she is not cooperating, my daughter immediately takes her out to the car. She is learning that bad behavior has consequences.

oops - posted to the wrong table manners thread. American style.

I was raised on the "American style"...however, once I discovered the European way...I've never looked back..

Euro. I grew up here but my mom is French and my dad, goes with out saying, is a Francophile and very much European as he spent his high school years in Switzerland. I never understood the fork and knife choreography, I've tried doing it just for giggles and it's infuriating. It makes eating so complicated and cumbersome.

"American" style. "European" style.

Come on!

It sounds like we're talking about sex or something. It's just which hand you hold the fork in after you cut your meat. Does it really make a difference?

I'm going to my refrigerator right now and eating pudding with my fingers!

FFC, you are correct, but some people have issues with this. My ex girlfriend for one thing. She gave me a pass on it since I'm French, but she thought that Americans who didn't eat the "American way" were "pretentious" and "foodies trying to look like chefs" or some other such nonsense. Like I said, some people have issues...

I think it's just interesting to see different cultural practices, how they evolve, and our own interpretations of them--for example, how southpaws find the European style easier, regardless of their country of origin.

I'm absolutely fascinated by this - I have to confess: until last night I'd thought the "European way" was the normal way, and the "American way" was simply an indication of poor table manners or something that children may do (my apologies to everybody who eats the "American way", I had no idea, and that would be poor manners on my part).

It doesn't help that my American husband (born in Brooklyn, raised in NJ) eats the "European way", while my in-laws (who do have very poor table manners indeed, such as touching every single piece of bread in the bread basket served for the table while choosing the one roll they will ultimately take, and so much more) eat the "American way". Oh well, I've learnt something.

According to a radio program I heard and also a few sources I Googled (so it might be true) it was because forks came late to America, but that knives had been 'blunted' on the table because forks were gaining popularity in Europe and England. Cutting meat and then scooping it up with a spoon (utensil that was used to transport food to the mouth) was easier if done with the dominant hand, usually the right, hence the switch. So it evolved for practical reasons, and then became etiquette.

I grew up with chopsticks...in my right hand. Lefties are "re-educated" to use the right hand as much as possible.

For non-Asian meals, I used American style for a very long time. When my sister went to Germany and I visited, I noticed the European style. We started wondering why the Americans adopted such a practice of switching the fork from the left hand to the right. We wondered if it had anything to do with that "left hand is the devil's hand" mentality or if Americans were that insistent on differentiating themselves from the rest of the world.

Regardless of which hand is used, I can't stand food smeared all over a utensil. ugh. Clumps of gravied mashed potatoes on fork tines or grains of rice stuck to the end of a chopstick...blech...I once asked a date wether he intended to eat what was all over his fork or just wanted to advertise to everyone what he was having for dinner.

My grandfather came over from Scotland when he was 7. He eats in the European style and my mother tended to as well. As a child, I generally ate in the American style. However, when I lived in England I picked up the European style. Once it got into my muscle memory, it just felt much more common sense.

@ FFC I don't think anyone is arguing here about which is the correct or incorrect way to eat. It is merely a discussion of the cutlural differences that exist when eating and what different people prefer and why. For example, I was raised to eat the "American" way; however, after living in Spain I now eat with a fork and knife in my hands throughout the meal. I do agree though, there are people who barely have food to eat, so if this was indeed an argument, it would be ridiculous!

I use American style for meals where I don't need to cut anything, and Continental style for meals with meat and other items that need to be cut. Drives my Southern family nuts, but, whatever.

I have a friend that will cut up ALL his food then seperate it on the plate so nothing touches. He them puts a tiny bit of each thing on the plate on his fork and goes clockwise till all the food is done. This is a real pleasure you watch. It is OCD at it's best.

i get "the look" if i try to use anything but "european style" at the table. nothing against american, it's just how my family does it.

@simon -- Indeed, I hear ya! :)

@avideater -- I realize there's no argument. It was tongue-in-cheek... mostly. ;)

MMmm... pudding...

I do whatever works best for what I'm eating, why bother switching? If the food needs to be cut, I go Euro and stay that way until I go to eat a bite of something that isn't really "stabbable" but doesn't fully require a spoon.

If I am using a knife it is the Euro style for me, every now and then I try the American style just cannot do it. Not sure why either as I am the only one in my family who eats food that way.

I hate to phrase it like this, but it's the truth...when I am feeling lazy, I eat steaks, etc. European style. Otherwise, I exchange fork hands.

Perky, I was taught the same way. Cut one piece and eat, same with bread.

@katarina_santiago -- ditto! i have no precision with my right hand.

What style is it if you, as a rightie, keep your fork in your right hand the whole time and cut with your left hand?

@dbrackst...european for lefties?

Euro for me. I think either is fine but... I ask you this...

Is the SHOVEL method acceptable? I think NOT!!! Do you hear me Jeffrey Steingarden? I think the shovel method is for children under 8, if you are an adult and still using the shovel method, you need go sit at the kiddie table until you learn proper manners! So, back to the kiddie table Jeffrey! :)

Neither, most of the time Chinese style with chopsticks.

Like others above, I use both styles, depending on what I'm eating. If it requires cutting, then euro style. If not, then I'll hold my fork, tines up, in my right hand.

And if it's spaghetti I like to twirl.

Yes, twirling with a spoon to make nice compact nests.

I cut my food lefty.
I write righty.
I bat lefty.
I throw righty.
I prep food by cutting righty.

I use a fork and spoon to twirl spaghetti or any other long macaroni.

When I eat Asian food I use chopsticks (well) and have since I was 14.

BF uses his right hand to cut food, puts down the knife, switches hands with the fork and eats. I think that's the American high etiquette way. :D

i eat euro style. i learned how in college. i was fascinated by the foreign students' exquisite table manners and immediately began to emulate them.

As a southpaw, I use the knive/fork combo like a European. As an American, my tines are always facing upI Regardless of which continential style, I have observed the ill-mannered thumb comes into play more often than naught:

Euro: Pile as much food on the back of the fork as possible, using thumb instead of knife to push food. Place way-too-much food into your mouth.

American: Use thumb instead of knife to create a barrier. Push food up to barrier and use thumb to 'push' food onto fork. Place way-too-much food into your mouth.

My mother was married in England when I was 9 years old. Being a very shy kid I became an observer and noticed how everyone was eating funny. I quite liked it and have eaten that way ever since.

My husband grew up all over the world (lived in Africa, South America, Europe) and his Caribbean parents taught him to eat with a fork and a "pusher" which was a blunt child's knife, used to push the food onto the fork (fork in left hand, pusher or knife in right). Having grown up in the States, I always ate the "American" way. Once we married, and I saw how much more efficient the European way was, I just sort of morphed into doing that, and now that's how my kids eat. Not so much a matter of etiquette as it is a matter of convenience. It's easy for kids to eat when they don't have to keep switching hands, and it helps them to have a "pusher" for those pesky bits of food that won't get onto the fork, otherwise.

I eat Euro. I cut things with my right hand. I write with my right hand (unless it is a chalkboard), but I bat and golf with my left. I was 're-educated' by the catholic nuns.

I was just thinking. (I know you are all seeing the smoke!) If people who eat American style would eat European style, then those with less finesse would have their knife to help secure food to their fork, eliminating the need to use their thumb to push food onto their fork. ;-O

Having to switch your fork to your right hand after cutting just seems like a waste of energy to me...energy that would be better spent chewing!! : )

Eating Euro-style makes food taste better!

I am serious. That dumb ass American style where you do the "dance of the knife and fork" definitely detracts from the pleasure of eating. Try it!

Oh yeah and what was with that thing where you had to plunk your inert left hand in your lap? Ugh.

@FastFoodCritic

Seriously, how you eat something determines how it tastes!!!

I remember hearing my mom remarking that I ate "European style" when growing up, but thought nothing of it, nor was a difference explained to me.

I do remember one of my first trips to DC to meet my future (now former) in laws, and my mom in law to be remarking on it. If only she had stopped her remarks right there. : )

I am a leftie that eats both ways, but confess to feeling great irritation while watching Americans attempt to mimic European behavior because they feel it is culturally elite or superior.

I can't tell you how many times I have watched as friends will go to Europe for a weekend and come back eating "Euro"-style. Hull-lo? You are still an urban redneck from Boston.

...and before I get sniped. I lived in Europe for a while and am the unfortunate progeny of "that" school in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I have lived in both worlds. I just don't understand this fascination by Americans with all things European.

I tend to eat Euro style when I have certain foods like steak, chicken, or any other big hunk of meat that can't be cut with just a fork.

Since I don't make dishes like that very often I bet I eat American 90% of the time.

I've always wondered when you eat Euro style how do you eat peas or something that really needs to be scooped? I've never figured it out.

I grew up in a family that was very strict about (American) table manners. No elbows on table, no overhanded grip on the fork, etc. When I met my wife, she didn't have bad table manners, per se, but it was obvious that her family wasn't as strict as mine.

As we've traveled a lot, we've both somewhat subconsciously picked up the European style and I find I just like it better. The strangest table manners I've seen were amongst young adults in Australia, where I noticed a strange "hybrid" style -- fork and knife remained in the hands, but were switched (fork in right hand), and the tines were rotated up or down depending on whether meat or salad, etc. was being eaten (scooped or stabbed).

I was raised with European style, but never was the fork to be "upside down" - never!

I'm so glad to hear mention of a pusher. I learned how to use one, and we have one as part of the (German) family silver. I brought it into work a few months ago and only my coworker from former Rhodesia could even hazard a guess as to its purpose.

@Brooke29
That's exactly what I was thinking! I was born and raised in NJ, but my parents are from England, so they always taught me to eat European style and would comment on the poor table manners of Americans who "hack up their food" (their words). I had no idea that was a style of eating, but I'll try and be less judgmental from now on! However, I still think my parents would say something to me if I used a fork "tines up."

I eat American style and never really thought about it before, didn't realize it was such a thing. I will say I am very right handed and would most likely have a hard time getting the food neatly into my mouth with my left hand!

Like AliNC, I rarely use a knife in the first place, so I tend to just eat with the fork in my right hand. I have pretty much no coordination in my left hand, though, so using the fork in that hand would be very difficult for me, and possibly messy.

I have NO IDEA why, but I've always eaten European style, or rather, backwards American style. I'm a rightie who cuts with her right and eats with her left. BUT if there's nothing to cut, I generally eat rightie...

European way, definitely

I'm British and I eat appropriately (also having strict parents who were insistent on this). I hold my folk in my left and hand and knife with the right hand, I do not 'shovel' food. Sometimes I go for dinner at friends houses and have to ask for a knife so I can eat my food. I often receive complements on how well I eat.

I eat in my own ambidextrous style. I cut the meat with my left hand and use the fork and eat the cut piece with my right hand. When using chopsticks and eating soup with noodles or something I'll also hold the spoon in my left hand and the chopsticks in my right. No switching needed! People should just learn to cut with their non dominant hand, it's much less time consuming in my opinion.

In restaurants I eat American style, though I occasionally switch back to the European style I used for that year I lived in France without realizing it. In Europe I definitely only use European style. In Asian restaurants that use chopsticks, I use chopsticks.
AND in Filipino restaurants or at home I often use a spoon in the right hand, fork in the left. Yes, this is the aforementioned shovel style. And it's the absolute best way to pick up rice, meat, and sauce all in one bite. If people haven't seen it before, it freaks them out.
I have one nephew who prefers to eat with his hands (the way his grandmother eats at home) and it's just fine by his parents as long as he doesn't do it at school where everyone assumes it's bad manners.
Nothing wrong with learning all styles, it helps you understand a culture. For instance, French people are freaked out by American style because you put your hand in your lap while you're eating, and it makes them wonder what you're doing with that hand! European style always keeps both hands on the table.

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