I don't want to waste food!
I hate being wasteful, but I am also nuerotic about freshness or when food isn't good anymore. So if I made a roast beef or chicken and its been in the fridge for 3 days (since no one ate it) do I toss it or still use it? What is everyone's time limit on keeping food before throwing it out? Also, other perishables such as lunch meat, cheese, pasta?
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I basically give everything one day then the dog gets it. Lunch meat is pretty pricey so I try not to overbuy to begin with. Cheese is different...it lasts forever! Pasta dries out after a day so again...its gotten to the point where the dog will only eat her pedigree if its mixed and heated gently in the microwave. Spoiled bitch.
ChelleyD01 at 10:00AM on 08/18/08
Wait...let me also add that if I know there is a significant amount of something like a gorgeous roast with gravy and veggies that only a slice or two has been eaten, I portion it down and pop them into the freezer for those days when I just dont feel like it or lunch is going to be a bust....
ChelleyD01 at 10:02AM on 08/18/08
I keep cooked stuff for a week, then toss it in the rubbish. Raw meats and seafood, for 3 days or so, then it's pitched.
At times, I keep food that's past due in the fridge until it's the night before rubbish pick-up day (once per week) so the rotting food doesn't stink the place up.
We also shop for certain groceries and make certain dishes, like gumbo that use shrimp and crab, the night before pick-up so there isn't much time for stuff to decay and smell.
I miss the twice per week pick-ups that I had when I was a kid. Husband misses the communal dumpster that got emptied ?daily in the back alley where he grew up.
Cassaendra at 10:10AM on 08/18/08
I give things a few days usually. I was a week+ person back in college, but my boyfriend's ocd-clean tendencies have rubbed off on me a bit, so I make a good effort to get leftovers eaten the next day. Every once and a while something ends up going bad, but it happens much less often now. For instance, Friday night's dinner went to leftovers, and my boyfriend ate one portion the next day, but I didn't get to the other half, so I'm eating it today for lunch. However, I have a few frozen lunches (ugh, I know) in the work freezer for when I don't have leftovers or just don't bring anything in, and if my leftovers are too rank, out it goes.
I'll keep fruits and veggies till I can't use them. Over-ripe (or about to be) bananas? Smoothies or banana bread. Citrus? Juice it for marinades or vinegarettes. Greens starting to go? Use what's good, toss anything remotely slimy. I don't typically keep lunch meat, but my test for that is if it smells, tastes, or looks off, toss it.
Eggs are good for a week or two generally to me. I say toss it when you crack an egg that is bad, but I can't recall ever getting to that point, even during my college years.
joyyy at 11:48AM on 08/18/08
After 3 days or so, I will freeze whatever cooked meat is leftover. when buying fresh meat or poultry, I will cook a portion within a day, then immediately freeze the rest. I cook for one, so not wasting food can be a challenge. For me the biggest challenge is buying lettuce for one!
I used to have a neighbor that never froze cooked meat and could not fathom why I did it. Nothing better than a complete pot roast dinner from the freezer, or portioned turkey with gravy dinners left over from Thanksgiving. It takes a little effort, but so worth it.
bev1423 at 11:59AM on 08/18/08
Having had food poisoning 3 times (no names, no names), if hot prepared leftovers don't get eaten the next day, they go in the trash. (or aren't eaten but remain in there until the next garbage pickup day like Cassaendra mentioned) cause chances are I won't eat it again.
I usually try to take leftovers to work for lunch the next day, if I don't do that, they're tossed.
My husband was raised with an Italian mother who cooked fresh every meal, because my father in law frowned upon leftovers and insisted on new meals each night (don't get me started) so my husband rarely touches leftovers.
Now with lunch meats and pasta/potato salads and things like that, I usually will toss after 3-4 days, depending on the meat (roast beef hits the hoop quicker than ham). Cheese I keep until it is obvious that it's time.
In your case, a 3 day old beef roast or chicken wouldn't pass GO to get to these lips, it would be in the garbage.
Southern_bella at 12:03PM on 08/18/08
My husband always uses leftover roast chicken to make chicken stock. Then uses the stock to make gumbo. Mm...I love those days! =)
PastaPerson at 12:09PM on 08/18/08
@Southern_Bella: Wow, my father was the same way too. Each meal had to be something new. Absolutely no (obvious) leftovers. We would go maybe a month or 6 weeks w/o a repeat meal.
Now, if we had leftover Popeye's fried chicken, my mother and I, after my father left the table (he would leave his plates/utensils/glass - my mother and I would take all the dirty dishes to the sink and wash everything), we would pick apart the chicken and then freeze them in 3-4 oz packs so I could use them for my ramen, along with other veggies, or make some kind of concoction using them in his lunch on weekends like chicken long rice (soy sauce, long rice, chicken bits, some grated ginger).
Cassaendra at 12:25PM on 08/18/08
@Cassaendra - in my family, growing up, we all ate leftovers, sometimes they're better the second day, but MY father would never have demanded/nor does now insist on fresh meals each and every night, granted my father also cooked/cooks (something my father in law wouldn't dare lower himself and do) so I didn't grow up in a 1 cook family. (not to mention my brother was a chef and owned a restaurant before turning to a life of crime fighting)
oh and don't get me started on clearing tables at my inlaw's house. *feeling blood start to boil*
Southern_bella at 12:40PM on 08/18/08
Cooked food, usually about a week. We have a commercial fridge and it's very cold. Between the day it's cooked and the day it's tossed (if there's anything left), I've already transmogrified it once or twice.
therealchiffonade at 12:42PM on 08/18/08
I keep my leftover for up to a week. But there's no meat/fish/poultry involved. I think that somehow this reduces the food poisoning risk. Although I did have quite the night once after bad tofu and spinach.
PeanutButter at 1:32PM on 08/18/08
I keep cooked food for up to a week and make sure my fridge is really cold. Some foods taste better after sitting for a day, like curries. Raw meat and fish, however, spend no more than a day in my fridge. Raw veggies I keep until it is obvious they cannot be used. I am a little shy to admit my eggs stay in my fridge for quite some time.
devaleena at 1:42PM on 08/18/08
Green bags really seem to help us keep our veggies fresh. We try not to buy what we won't use in the first place either. Meal planning will help a lot with that.
Varuna77 at 1:45PM on 08/18/08
I have a roommate that is so averse to wasting food that I basically had to tackle him to get him not to eat slimy salami. And he was really sad about throwing it away, too!
BangieB at 1:47PM on 08/18/08
Seldom do I have to throw food away (no more than a couple of times a year) - as Varuna77 pointed out, meal planning has a lot to do with it. Certain things are planned for more meals than one - such as soups, stews, potato salad (or some other salads), meatballs, etc, so they are cooked in larger quantities and are either used within a week or frozen (although I don't remember a salad -- potato, chicken or whatever else -- that lasted longer than 2 days). Other foods (such as steaks, green salads, pasta, shrimp cocktail, mussels, etc) are best when they're fresh, and I cook them in quantities needed for one meal only. Like I said, it's a very rare occasion that I have to throw anything out as I usually don't have food go bad.
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erdnase at 2:19PM on 08/18/08
I keep food until it starts to smell off. Hasn't killed me yet! I work hard to eat things within a day or two, although sometimes it is three or four days. I've gotten pretty good at it, and generally only end up throwing away things like homemade mayonnaise that has been in the refrigerator too long.
Auspicious at 2:24PM on 08/18/08
I keep stuff around for longer than most here, apparenlty, but i've never gotten sick.
Raw meat (not fish) can stay in the fridge for about 3 days, or 1 day after the "buy by" date on the sticker. (hey, its just as good if not better sitting in my fridge than it is in those open cases at the grocery).
Leftovers can usually stay for up to a week, depending on what it is. If i wind up tossing leftovers, its because they've gone "off" (stale, soggy, etc), rather than going *bad* per se.
I think people in this country especially have gotten really touchy about food going bad. My boyfriend, for example, will throw out milk if its even CLOSE to the "buy by" date... as in the carton says buy by 10/11 and he'll start trying to throw it out on 10/7. Ridiculous.
We're all animals and have a good sense of what will make us sick. If it smells weird, is even a little slimy, or the color has changed, DON'T EAT IT. Otherwise, stop freaking out and make it into dinner.
mh330 at 2:31PM on 08/18/08
Don't you trust your sense of smell?! Aren't most people on here foodies?!!
At our house (and how I grew up), we don't time things, we go entirely by smell, taste, and color (appearance).
Only exception might be fresh raw meat, fish or poultry. We generally don't "store" them in the fridge, it gets cooked, or frozen within a day or so.
peekpoke at 2:49PM on 08/18/08
Just found this article, which is very relevant to this discussion:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Germs/Story?id=5560174&page=3
Apparently, our sense of smell is pretty much useless in identifying bacteria that might actually hurt us. And those molds that we CAN see and taste? Apparently they'll affect the flavor of the food, but are usually harmless. Great.
As for raw meat, the article says 3 days in the fridge is ok, plus another 3-4 days for cooked leftovers should be fine.
mh330 at 3:06PM on 08/18/08
Re: the problem of stinky food in your garbage...I keep a bag in my freezer for all potentially smelly items and empty it on trash days. I have the sweetest smelling garbage in Connecticut.
bessfour at 3:29PM on 08/18/08
I think this is one of those times when we're a little too far from the source as far as understanding handling and storage and processing of different foods. I mean, you buy a hunk of meat that's been wet or dry aged, and you think it's gonna go bad in a day or two? Or a cured/aged/dried product?
Lunchmeat? You really think that huge log of lunchmeat is getting sold every day? Maybe some of the popular stuff turns over that quickly, but not all of it. I can remember when we lived a few doors down from a little grocery store, and you could track the progress of the salami as it got shorter and shorter and shorter. At most, they'd slice off the first slice if it got a little dry, and not give that to a customer, but they'd keep selling it for a long time. Heck, it's probably months old before it gets to the store, because that's part of the curing process.
And eggs are good for a month, unless you bought them when they were already old or they were improperly stored.
I've bought cryovac-packaged corned beef that had a 3-month "sell by" date. It doesn't start going bad faster once you bring it home. After it's opened, it's a different ballgame, but even so, the meat is pickled, which is a preserving process. I've made home-made corned beef, and it sits in that brine for quite a while before it's ready to be cooked.
I don't make it a point to keep food sitting around forever, and there are certain things that I buy and cook the same day, but most things will become unappealing before they'll hit the "make you sick" stage. A little common sense is in order.
If you buy raw meat and the sell-by date is a week away, it's not going to suddenly decompose when you get it home, unless of course, you're not storing it correctly. And the sell-by date takes into consideration that you might not cook it immediately. And that also gives them a cushion of time where they know it's still going to be safe. It's not like it's good on the sell-by date, and poisonous on the next.
dbcurrie at 3:48PM on 08/18/08
I feel the same way, and have a new method: I have a whiteboard on my refrigerator door, and I write exactly what's in the fridge. That way, when it's time to cook dinner or just throw together lunch, I know what's there and what needs to be used up. Nothing is forgotten in the back of the fridge.
Sometimes I'll throw aging veggies into a soup that gets pureed, or cut the mold off cheeses and throw them in the food processor with some wine and garlic to make fromage fort.
I keep cooked dishes a week (unless it's fish-- then 3 days max) and freeze something if I know I won't eat it. And most things really do last past their expiration date-- just use your sense of smell.
purpleceline at 4:56PM on 08/18/08
I don't have any hard and fast rules. If it looks okay, I move on to the smell test. If it smells okay, I eat it.
Tactful_Cactus at 6:17PM on 08/18/08
How weird--I grew up in a household with a father who also would not eat leftovers like Cassaendra and Southern belle's!
On topic, I'm a vegetarian, so the issue of contamination due to aging is something less of a factor. But I don't feel bad wasting food--food is there to nourish you, not to make you sick for fear of wasting it. When in doubt, throw it out!
HeartofGlass at 7:40PM on 08/18/08
wait wait! Let me say again, it's my FATHER IN LAW I keep bad mouthing, not my own father! :P
Southern_bella at 7:54PM on 08/18/08
Oops, sorry Southern! I just found it funny it was such a common trend!
HeartofGlass at 7:57PM on 08/18/08
I taste-test cheese, as it molds from the outside in. Sometimes you can cut away bad bits along the outside.
I keep veggies about a week. Meat about 4 days. Fish and shellfish get eaten right away.
Don't buy and cook too much, and you'll save money at the get-go. The tradeoff is more time spent shopping... ever live in Europe? It's not a bad way to go -- let the market worry about the freshness of things, rather than you buying too much to bring home and spoil. Shop more often, and buy less, that's what I like.
TikiPundit at 7:57PM on 08/18/08
Tossing is a MAJOR pet peeve, so at home I make the amount of food depending on how many people I am serving. If I can will freeze the rest or make soups. I am a chef at a sorority and the girls are major picky about leftovers. I learned to become very imaginative with leftovers. Things that I can freeze will go into the freezer for another time. The other stuff I will use for soups, pasta salads, wraps,something, I always come up with ideas.
pjracz10 at 7:59PM on 08/18/08
As my Mom always said, "think of the poor starving children in Africa!" It might sound trite, but we do often forget how very fortunate we are in the US, having the luxury of being able to toss food! With food prices going up, it only makes sense to freeze anything you can before it starts to go bad-- even extra broth, tomato paste, etc. We're looking to invest in a small deep freeze when we get a bigger kitchen space, so we can freeze more meals. But, like others have said, not buying too much in the first place is where you start (i.e., a family of two or three doesn't need to shop at Costco!).
shalomblack at 10:12PM on 08/18/08
I guess I am lucky in that we raise our own meat. I buy fresh eggs and chickens from the neighbor (because I refuse to deal with them). I only keep things 3-4 days, and then I freeze, but I give most of the frozen crap to elderly family members who no longer cook for themselves. My husband also does not eat left overs!. The dog eats very well once a week before garbage pickup, but, once again, I guess I'm lucky.
cucinacecilia at 11:41PM on 08/18/08
I had a very hard time adjusting to cooking for just myself (then 2 again) from the years of a house full of teens. I would go absolutely nuts when I had to throw something away.
I've adapted pretty well. My man is very good about eating most leftovers. He tends to get up and roam in the middle of the night. I think the worst thing I still do is buy too many fresh veggies. I love them...him, not so much, and I usually end up with way too much going soft and soggy.
thewrighttaste at 12:51AM on 08/19/08
If you're OCD then follow this procedure:
- make a binder of food expiration and storage times from Internet sources.
- purchase a whiteboard from an office supply store and mount it in your kitchen (mine's 24"x36").
- every time you cook, open a package, or purchase fresh produce, write down what you have left and date it according to the above binder.
- scan the whiteboard weekly to see what item's expiration date is coming up so you can plan your meals.
I've saved over $300/month doing this.
Fractal at 11:30AM on 08/19/08