Thoughts on Babbo?
Thinking of taking some newlyweds to babbo's for dinner.... any comments?
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13 Comments:
BBQ Octopus, Bucatini, Lamb, Duck, Domingo's Pyramids, Goat Cheese Truffles....lol have fun.
Make sure to try the house infused grappas with dessert!
Mheusler at 10:52PM on 08/24/08
you might also like these
http://flyboyz.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/babbo-restaurant-526/
pics of the pasta tasting menu
Mheusler at 10:54PM on 08/24/08
good luck getting a reservation!
but everything we had there was just stellar. i loved the foie gras ravioli and the house cured meats.
cybercita at 11:37PM on 08/24/08
My thought on Babbo is that it is a very good idea to dine there. Since you have four people, you would be able to share quite a few items without spending on the tasting menu. If you choose to go this route, the table can order wines by the quartino for each course, creating your own pairing series.
If the price of the tasting menu doesn't make you flinch, definitely go for it (I prefer the traditional one over the pasta--not a fan of that doughbelly feeling). And most certainly do the pairings; the wine service is as thoughtful and well-executed as the food, in my experience.
rrakes at 11:48PM on 08/24/08
They do have six or eight seats at the very front of the house that they save for walk-ins, if your timing is good and you're willin to wait in the very crowded bar. My pal and I walked in cold on a Saturday evening in August, having been unable to get a res, and at 6:35 were seated...some idiots decided this was a meal they needed to rush through, to judge from what I saw. All good. I particularly liked the tripe, but I understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea.
lemons at 11:51PM on 08/24/08
Get the sweetbreads.
caviarandcodfish at 10:03AM on 08/25/08
Lambs Tongue Vinaigrette. YUM!
mnrobb at 10:21AM on 08/25/08
Guess I'm the only one whose thoughts are "Go somewhere else"
http://feistyfoodie.blogspot.com/2007/10/babbo.html
feistyfoodie at 4:24PM on 08/25/08
My wife and I had the traditional tasting menu on August 15 and it was the best meal we have ever eaten. The service was superb and the dishes consisted of excellent ingredients presented honestly. I generally think that I can prepare a more satisfying meal at home then most of the restaurants we encounter but this was an experience that was beyond my skill as a home chef and worth every dollar we paid and the time I spent on the phone getting the reservation.
kryan1970 at 4:39PM on 08/25/08
I love Babbo. Go to Babbo. You must try it, at least once, in your lifetime.
Before you go, it would be great to read Heat by Bill Buford, a writer (he freelances for the New Yorker, too) who spent time in Babbo's kitchens and eventually traveled to Italy, inspired by Mario and all that he learned about in the Babbo kitchens. It's a fascinating look inside the restaurant industry, as well as Mario Batali's start and eventual rise. Buford is a great writer, Mario Batali is a great character, and you'll be salivating and chuckling and sighing as you read through life in the Babbo kitchen.
Make double (triple?) sure you confirm your reservation the day before via the confirmations-only phone number, with confirmation code. Note that this number is different from the main reservations line!
Getting a reservation can be difficult. They take reservations starting one month in advance to the calendar date. They take them starting at 10am over the phone and in person. Go in person if you live in NYC, just stop by on a Saturday or something, it's so much easier than calling. It's worth the hassle and saves you time in the end (who really wants to be on redial for a few hours straight? Not me!).
Request to sit on the upper level, where it's more spacious and less noisy. I like my rock'n'roll music but hearing the Pixies or The Strokes or MGMT or whatever blast at a nice restaurant is odd even after dining there a few times! Some people are turned off by the soundtrack, though, but not me.
Arrive on time and with your entire party there. Be prepared for some chaos in the bar area (their coat check is the worst-designed coat check ever) because of the walk-in parties waiting, and also people dining at the bar. Smile and be nice to the host. I've heard he can be crabby but he's never been anything but nice to me. Then again, I always have a reservation.
Don't order the tasting menus, none of the greatest hits are on there. I don't know anyone who has been disappointed by the tasting menus, but the most-discussed dishes are not found on there. The one criticism I've seen about the pasting tasting menus is that it's a lot of pasta by the time it's done -- only you can be the judge of whether or not it's a good thing. A friend of mine who is a food critic/writer went to Babbo and had the kitchen send out their best dishes, as a custom tasting menu....and it contained most of the dishes that people rave about (which aren't on the regular tasting menu). That fact, to me, is telling and very counter-intuitive.
Order wine and take advantage of a really interesting wine list and knowledgeable sommeliers! They have some very interesting stuff on there, and it's all Italian, I believe.
Service can be hit or miss, but most of the servers there know the menu like the back of their hand if you're having trouble deciding. The worst service I've had was just a waiter who was a bit absent during our meal. Bartenders are nice but the bar is often packed full of people dining or waiting for a walk-in table.
Don't eat the bread, it's kind of boring. Save room and arrive hungry. Note that they don't offer olive oil or butter with bread service (supposedly the more traditional Italian way to do it). The amuse is typically chickpea bruschetta. It's OK.
For two people I've done two antipasti, two primi, and split a secondi between the two of us, sharing plate the whole time. They can also divide portions onto two plates if you wish. Ordering conservatively on the secondi dishes leaves some room for dessert. The secondi are pretty big by the time you get around to that course. Note that most of the secondi don't come with any sides, you should order sides separately if you want them. IMO, the antipasti and primi menus are stronger than the secondi menu.
Assuming you are adventurous/don't mind offal, I'd do for the appetizers: the lamb's tongue vinaigrette with three minute egg, crispy pig's foot (don't worry, it doesn't really look like a foot), grilled octopus, or tripe (comes with bread, very messy). If you are trying to save space, the salumi plates are also very good but a much smaller portion. You can get the salumi they make in-house (prosciutto, lamb's tongue, lardo, spicy salami, and more) or the salumi that Mario Batali's father makes (slightly smaller selection). It's all great, though, and at the very worst, you'll wish you brought more people with you, so you can try more things out!
For pastas, they are second to none. Everything is cooked perfectly (al dente). I love the goose liver ravioli the most and so has everyone I've ever taken there. Others like the beef cheek ravioli, chianti stained parpadelle, gnocchi with oxtail, or mint love letters, but I think the goose liver wins over those four (still haven't tried the lamb's brains yet though). Personally, I am not a huge red sauce fan and though the gnocchi and mint love letters were good but not great. YMMV. I love Babbo's pastas, every single one, though I love some more than others. Their pasta, overall, is great, fresh, properly cooked, and far more interesting than you might think pasta should be.
For the main, the fennel-dusted sweetbreads are fantastic. The pork chop is excellent: well-cooked and juicy. Easily split between two. The rabbit is also nice, too. The skirt steak is only OK. I've also heard wonderful things about the duck and lamb chop. There are often very good specials too (had some braised pork cheeks once time). For the big chops, you can spot a big rack of meat coming from across the room! It smells divine. If only I had a second stomach....
Save room for dessert. If you are very full, you can get the assortment of gelati and sorbetti. A recent trip yielded: olive oil gelato (perfect as usual), hazelnut gelato, bittersweet chocolate gelato (so intense, and dark, like a punch in the face with chocolate), espresso gelato (so smooth and gone in about two seconds flat), coconut gelato (wonderful even if you don't like coconut), pineapple sorbetto (nice and sweet), green apple sorbetto (sharp and tart but refreshing), rhubarb sorbetto (very tart), mango sorbetto (addictive and reminiscent of Indian mangos), and huckleberry sorbetto (nice and with bits of real huckleberry). I also like the seasonal fruit crostata (right now it is still Tristar strawberry hopefully). The chocolate hazelnut cake is also nice. Other popular desserts are the maple cheesecake or the semifreddo.
Really, I've never had a bad meal there food-wise and in comparison, the other complaints (space, noise, service, difficulty obtaining a reservation) seem to disappear by the time the petit fours come around. And the check is surprisingly reasonable for a celebrity-chef, three-star restaurant in Manhattan. I've spent more on dinner for two at other places and been less satisfied and less full.
kathrynyu at 5:47PM on 08/25/08
thank you for such a thorough and informative response .... and for all of your comments.... very helpful, indeed..... can't wait to go. probably sometime in november....
thanks again everyone...
pooch at 10:09PM on 08/25/08
WHOOPS! I meant to say they take reservations one month in advance to the calendar DAY. So if you want to dine on September 26, you need to make your reservation on August 26.
kathryn at 12:14AM on 08/26/08
I've been three times, and each time have been disappointed with the service and noise level. The food is that good, that I'm willing to try the place again, especially with such an extensive menu featuring decadent offally parts. Lupa, down the road, is a little 'Babo-ette' and more wallet-friendly and approachable. Nicer bar, though the noise issue persists.
Enjoy.
Pintchow at 1:11PM on 08/27/08