Serious Eats Censoring a Talk post???
I just saw someone had started a thread about how a blogger was harassed by the Cook's Illustrated PR people. In the time it took for me to click over to the story, the post has since disappeared from the SE forum... What gives? Is this just a gltich, or did you guys kill the post? I know you are buddy buddy with the folks at CI, but come on now, censorship is not cool.
This was not an inflammatory post, it was not insulting to anyone, and frankly, the issue of copyright as it concerns recipes is a very important one. Serious Eats, please don't tell me you are straying to the dark side...
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11 Comments:
Yes, we removed the post you're referring. We're very transparent about our policy in removing comments and posts and do so very rarely, and as you know from personal experience, we email the author and explain why when we do.
We agree with you -- recipe copyright is an important topic for discussion and we're happy to host a conversation about it, only in less inflammatory terms. I communicated all of this in email to the author of the original topic along with an invitation to resubmit the topic.
We like to think of Serious Eats as a never-ending, fabulous, cocktail party where everyone invited loves food as much as we do. As hosts, it's our responsibility and desire to make sure everyone's glass is full, keep the conversation flowing, etc. And to that end, we aren't afraid to redirect conversations in a more inclusive direction or kick out rude or uninvited guests.
Alaina Browne at 3:22PM on 07/24/08
"and as you know from personal experience"
nice touch :)
simon at 3:34PM on 07/24/08
@simon...With all due respect, SE is generally a blog that I (and in my estimation, others) come to in celebration of food and seeking advice, and less for heated debate and/or antagonizing each other. Commenters tend to be more supportive and constructive here than in much of the Blog Universe -- I certainly can't tell you what to do, but your posts often stand out to me as unnecessarily critical and, just that, "inflammatory". I don't look at what the SE editors do as constitutional right-restricting action, but rather, an attempt to maintain a blog that tends toward the positive, glass-half-full side of things.
I am asking on my own behalf for you to instead join in on what is generally a peaceful and harmonious place to share ideas and moderately obsess over food.
savecara at 4:06PM on 07/24/08
Sorry Simon ~ I have to agree with savecara on this one. I have been wondering for a while why you are so angry?
izatryt at 6:30PM on 07/24/08
right on @ savecara !!!!!
onepercent99 at 7:06PM on 07/24/08
I disagree. My posts are for the part positve and supportive, occasionally (I hope) informative and helpful. However, I do exercise the right to speak up and criticize when I feel it is appropriate. And sometimes, rarely, I get annoyed. I'm not the only one. Perhaps some readers have such delicate sensibilities that they seem to only remember the posts that are critical. I can't help with that.
simon at 7:39PM on 07/24/08
OMG!!! THIS IS OVER A POTATO SALAD RECIPE???!!! YIKES!
lindy123 at 9:06PM on 07/24/08
Criticizing people is not what we want here. We can agree to disagree and you are entitled your opinion as long as it is not inflammatory or hurting to anyone else. The minute you cross that line you ruin the spirit here. Rethink your stance. Save your flames for your grill.
Potato salad is very serious stuff. Recipe sharing and adapting is also very big stuff. Let us not badger Alaina. If SE wants to edit something that is their right to do it. You knew that.
JerzeeTomato at 12:36AM on 07/25/08
First, hugs for (((Alaina))). Talk about walking a tightrope!
We discuss plenty of volatile issues here and for the most part, they go undisturbed by the mods. The choice to perhaps dial down the title of the thread did not impede our eventual discussion of the subject matter. I had an opinion and attempted to post to the first incarnation of the question. When my response spun and spun and never stuck, I realized the thread had been pulled. I shrugged it off as an attempt to keep the peace between one form of media and another and moved onto the next thread. I will admit I was happy to see the second, less "loaded for bear" title and participated in that one.
Alaina and SE, keep up the great work. I don't mind occasionally being reminded that this is not a free for all. (And I do occasionally need reminding...)
chiff0nade at 8:46AM on 07/25/08
One has the right, in the US at least, to be free from governmental controls on free speech, for the most part. One doesn't have the right to say whatever they wish on a website, or in a private business or in a privately owned newspaper....and so on. The right to free speech is about individuals, groups and governmental bodies; not about individuals and groups amongst and between each other.
ccbweb at 10:12AM on 07/25/08
Anger Management
Come on Simon, sing it with me! :)
FastFoodCritic at 11:07PM on 07/25/08