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How Important is Organic Food to You?

I definitely think that most produce should be locally and/or organically grown. But I draw the line at organic raisins. I mean COME ON, really? Oatmeal?

What do YOU buy that's organic, and where do you stop?

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I actually just made a sour plum cake with cream cheese frosting that had organic raisins in it which were superb - it was practically an accident, but I will go out of my way to get those again! LOL.

In principle, I also buy organic whenever possible and affordable, but I will generally not pay more than a dollar or two more for an organic product - it's just not practical on a normal budget. That said, there are always organic things on sale and I buy sale items all the time. I tend not to be too brand fixated unless there's a concrete benefit.

Things I will not budge on however are milk and strawberries. These must be organic for me. Also lettuce. When you think about what it means for a product to be organic and how the good stewardship of the land is better served by such practices, how the animals and the oceans are stabilized when we choose to avoid chemicals and stay with a natural production method and non-factory farm methods, versus the damage of non-organic farming - well, there's pretty clearly a mandate to go organic whenever possible.

I don't think organic oatmeal is at all silly. But $10 a pound for organic chicken - up to ten times the normal price - is just too rich for my blood. I would say that if it's on sale - again with the sale! - I will buy organic meat, but otherwise I try to go for natural - ie: free range, no hormones or anti-biotics, pasture fed, minimal processing. Fortunately I live in an agricultural county in California where a lot of this is the way it's been done for over a century and that's great.

I'm not sure I understand your "line in the sand". Aren't raisins and oatmeal produce as well?
Myself, I don't really have a line...I buy the best quality I can at the best value. More than willing to pay for organic, and appreciate it, but I guess my "line" is cost. I'll buy "ugly" organic, no problem, but triple the cost and I have to think long and hard....


I'm like Tobey above, I buy organic as much as possible, but won't blow my grocery budget to stay all organic.

Ok I'll go first. I am not willing to pay a single cent more for anything that is organic. I like my food to be fresh and taste good but could care less if it is organically grown.

bobbob, I am right there with you. I buy what I can at local farmer's markets and i shop where there are butchers but organic holds no special magic for me at this time in my life.

I am on the line with Tobey and wookie:
I don't have much of the resources to actually 'hunt' for organics--
but whenever possible I make this a priority.
You never realize how amazing and full vegetable flavours are until you get the good stuff!
I attempt to grow my own tomatoes and herbs (on my teeny teeny tiny tiny balcony); and I visit the local farmers market on Saturdays.
Sometimes though, my budget is tight and it just isn't possible.
I look forward to a day when I have the facilities to grow all my own produce or buy from the local farmers market all the time!
I recently posted an interesting article on my Rethos profile:
http://www.rethos.com/news/view/1337-Green-Garden-Fingers-Go-Organic
with some good tips on growing your own as much as you can.

It's also about knowing that for every organic item you buy, there is that much less pesticide and fertilizer being used, which pollutes our water, promotes red tide, kills fish and birds. Maybe that's not important to some, but it is to me.

My statement will seem a bit odd, but I buy as little organic as possible.

What I don't bother buying organic are fruits and vegetables that are not largely affected by pesticides, like avocado, corn, and broccoli. Whereas, I will purchase organic spinach, potatoes, and grapes. I have to buy organic milk anyway, or I will have diarrhea.

I'm in the "as much as I can, when I can" camp. Meaning that I'll buy organic when it's affordable, for as many items as I can afford. But when I'm at the end of my monthly budget, I don't cry over the non-organic produce I buy to be able to have some fresh veggies in my diet until pay day.

Also, I generally go to the trouble to buy locally grown organic produce for canning and jams, so I'll go all organic there and make sure everything else I put in (sugar and lemon juice for jam) is organic.

The more I can support the movement, hopefully the more it will grow. Vote with your wallet, people.

I buy organic when I can, but I am 23, a writer, breaking my lease to get out of a terrible living situation and, consequently, broke. I primarily eat fresh fruits and vegetables – to afford a healthy diet, I must eat conventionally grown produce. I do shop at a farmer's market for some items, though. And I am vegetarian - were I eating meat, I would be very careful about only buying free range, 100 percent grass fed meat for ethical, environmental and health reasons. That's what I would buy for a dog or cat, too.

I am chronically ill, eating as natural and organic as possible means a lot for my body. I have been able to gain 40+ badly needed pounds after almost dying and weighing 78 lbs. (at 5'8") 2 years ago thanks to being able to recognize what my body will accept and what is best for me.

I won't have the time in this world that many do, so I feel that I need to do as right for my failing body as I can. This is not always feasible living in a small town, and not always being able to get out or prepare food when I'm too ill to do so, but I try.

Let me add that we were able to join a CSA (community supported agriculture) program this year, and our farmer's organic, so that turned out well for us. We are able to get a very sizeable selection, plus eggs, all organic, for $23 a week. I initially did it for the local/organic food cause but was really happy to discover that it is actually quite the food bargain. While we do not choose what arrives, it has also exposed us to choices we would not normally make and that has expanded my cooking quite a bit.

Also, we've been able to grow a vegetable garden and I finally have tomatoes in my life, which was one of my big goals when I left my hometown of NYC. I actually harvested 10 lbs of potatoes yesterday which was astonishing. We've gotten a ton of chard out too. To all would be container gardeners, I say go for it! You just need to experiment (and water pretty much every day). There are heirloom seed companies which specialize in container varieties. It's probably not too late for a small garden this year.

Nope. Nada. Not a chance. Tried organic veggies. To put it bluntly....Not Impressed! Would never pay 3 times as much for them. I like farmers markets for the variety, but won't go out of my way for one. They are seasonal as in not now because it is too hot (Florida). We do grow our own herbs. I've actually have a rosemary "hedge" that was really unexpected when we planted one tiny little sprig 21/2 years ago and alot of basil, oregano and parsley, but to be honest growing our own is simply for the convenience. If we didn't have it in the back yard, I'd just go buy it at the grocery store.

During the season, I buy most of my produce from a farm that is organic in practice, but hasn't paid for the organic certification. So, it's a better price but is the same quality.

The rest of the time, and with the rest of the food I buy, it depends on what is available and affordable. I prefer either organic milk, or milk from a very local dairy that is very close to being organic.

On the other hand, I don't think it's likely that all produce will be grown organically. It could, in fact, be a very bad idea. All you'd need is one plant disease or insect infestation, and it could wipe out huge amounts of crops. Bad for the farmers, bad for the eaters. Until there are organic ways to control things like that, I think we're still going to see organic foods as more of a boutique item. Maybe a larger proportion as time goes on, but still small compared to the overall production.

Not at all. I won't pay that much for something that isn't any better then the regular stuff.

most defiintely tastier, but let's be pragmatic, to be totally Organic, one needs to be in the higher income category.

I'm in similar situation as @bobcatsteph3; I've had health problems for years, and spent the better part of last year bedridden (at one point, it was so bad that I didn't have the energy to even bathe myself). As a result, I ate a lot of instant and processed food, because the Other can't really cook and I didn't have enough energy to cook. After being hospitalized earlier this year, a doctor suggested I try altering my diet to avoid processed foods and buy as organically as I could. I thought he was ridiculous - but you know what? Eight months later I'm no longer bedridden, I'm able to hold down a job for the first time in years, and I'm down to two prescriptions.

These days, I would say that 80% of my grocery bill is local and organic/free-range, and if I could find the other 20% organically, that would be as well. Is it expensive? Surprisingly, not really. Making food at home from raw ingredients has reduced my grocery bill for certain essentials (a loaf of homemade organic whole-wheat bread is about $0.50, as opposed to $3 at the grocery). In other cases, buying directly from farmers or in bulk results in prices equal or less than the grocery store. The hassle might not be worth it for some people, but it's made all the difference for me.

I guess to me, "fresh and locally grown" is more important than "organic". I will not hunt down organic food (although I recently realised that the salad greens that we buy on a regular basis are organic and I do buy organic milk), but we've been taking a weekly trip down South (we live on Jersey Shore) to a farm near Hammonton, NJ. On top of everything else, it's actually nice to put a face on your food, so to speak. There is also this incredible joy I experience when I am fortunate to cook using ingredients that have been harvested just hours before I got them. And you undoubtedly can taste the difference, too.

Buying a variety of healthy food that tastes good is the number one priority--buying organic would mean I would have to cut back on the produce I love in many instances. I buy organic by chance, because I eat lots of healthy food, and the only time I make a point of buying organic is to avoid high fructose corn syrup and/or too many additives. However, simply buying food with short ingredient lists is more important than the 'organicness' of it

I buy from a local family-owned farm which grows organic produce, but is too small to spend the $$$ to get certified "Organic" by the FDA. I get as much of what I need there as I can (which includes beautiful free-range eggs for about half of what organic eggs cost in the store.) I also buy their honey, their maple syrup, and their homemade jams/jellies/preserves. And, I go there year-round, so we end up eating far more seasonally as well.

I also pick up a lot at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's. I try to eat as local and CLEAN (as much organic as I can), and I always buy organic milk.

Things that I really need, and can't find as organic, I try and limit as much as possible, but I do buy them if they are really needed. For instance, if I need peppers or tomatoes, and cannot find organic, I always pay the extra and opt for hothouse or hydroponically grown. Far fewer pesticides are needed when they are grown away from the field.

I also buy very few "processed" foods. I try and make most of what I eat from scratch. I make my own bread, butter, pasta, some cheeses, baking powder, ice cream, etc. I think this is as important as whether the food is "organic".

As for organic raisins, I think it's very important that any dried fruit used is organic. The drying process concentrates the fruit, so any pesticides in the fruit will be concentrated as well. All the more reason to go organic there if you ask me.

I buy as much organic as possible. In the summer, I buy from my local farm market. I do not like preservatives or chemicals. Foods that come with their own packaging, like bananas, I just buy what looks the best. Eggs and milk are never anything but organic.

With that said, DH pokes fun at me for being so concerned about the foods we eat, when I will pour a glass wine in a NY minute! ;-D

@Brownie, how do you make baking powder?

We shop for organic too. I also do my best to buy local. My grocery store carries a lot of local organic produce and they feature local & organic meats and poultry, which is great. We feel better eating food that is produced minimally & naturally without hormones, antibiotics and other junk. Our dogs also eat organically. I know it costs more, but I feel that it is better for the environment, supports sustainable farming, etc. We also use natural cleaning products and soap.

Can you taste the difference...we think so. The food tastes much better. We have friends that always comment how much better the food is when they come to our house to eat.

dbcurrie, you can easily make your own baking powder by combining cream of tartar with baking soda {i think it's a half teaspoon of the tartar to a quarter teaspoon soda}. you have to do it when you are about to use it because it doesn't have any shelf life to speak of.

i buy as much organic as i can afford, but i am content to buy not organic things when the pesticide content is low. i don't eat conventionally grown peaches or strawberries, but i don't mind conventional avocadoes or onions.

milk, butter and eggs are an organic must for me, but i indulge in conventional cheeses.

i make my own granola and use all organic ingredients.


@cybercita. Duh. I knew that! (slaps self on forehead). I have a mental block between baking powder and baking soda. Not only can I never remember which one goes into the making of the other, I also have to read the container to make sure I'm grabbing the right one.

On the other hand, I have my AP flour and my bread flour in unmarked containers, and I never forget which is what.

I was thinking someone was making their own baking SODA.

I need to reboot my brain again, I think.

I buy as much organic as possible, but I will buy local before I will buy organic - e.g. if I'm buying fresh fruit, and I can't find any organic local peaches, I'll buy conventionally-grown local, rather than going to Whole Foods and spending way more for peaches flown in from California, which won't taste nearly as good and which will be environmentally detrimental in their own way.

I will only buy organic and pasture-fed dairy, cheese, and eggs, as well as all nuts - since toxins are most concentrated in fats, it's best to buy organic for fatty foods.

Raisins are actually an important choice for organic, as grapes for raisins are one of the most sprayed fruit crops (they might be the number one most sprayed, I can't remember exactly), and when they're dried, the pesticide toxins are concentrated. It's the same with other dried fruits.

Local and organic food can be more expensive than the conventional grocery-store stuff, but I prioritize quality ingredients above all other expenses. My salary is quite low. Beyond rent, food, and paying off my early 20s (credit card bills), I don't buy much - don't go out to eat often, don't buy coffee every day, rarely shop for clothing, etc. - and that's a choice I've made. It doesn't require making a lot of money - it simply requires choosing how to spend it. Everyone has different priorities. Of course, those who can barely afford food of any type can't pay the premiums for organic - in that case, it's not a choice. Hopefully those premiums will continue to go down so healthy food can become available to more people.

Given my budget and a number of other things, I'm apt to roll my eyes at people who take organic to a freakish level. I'm probably just being obnoxious because I'd do the same if I had the money, but for the most part all of my produce is organic. Every Saturday I go to my local farmer's market and stock up on all kinds of goodies that are locally grown. Aside from that, anything else I get that's organic is just a plus.

Since both the term "organic" and the organic foods industry is not regulated by any governing body, you never really know what you're getting and can be doing yourself more harm than good. Don't be fooled into thinking that you're getting a safe, quality product because it has the term "organic" attached to it. And you're probably paying way too much for the "organic" term.

@cambriana - Actually, for what it's worth, the USDA does regulate the "organic" label for food; in addition to not being sprayed with pesticides or grown with petroleum-based fertilizers like conventional crops, no organic food can be genetically-modified, which is huge, as about 80% of conventionally-grown soy and corn (and a growing proportion of wheat, fruit, and vegetables) are GMO, and these do not have to be labeled as such. (And of course, we have zero idea what genetic modification will do to our bodies in the long term, but experiments on lab animals have been quite scary.) Organic animal foods come from animals fed organic feed and who have received no antibiotics or hormones; every conventionally-raised animal receives both...and again, this is a relatively new development in human history, so we don't understand what the long-term effects on health will be - that is, unless we're seeing them now, in the constantly escalating rates of obesity, diabetes, cancer, and autoimmune diseases.

Though of course now that "organic" is a marketable term, food corporations are constantly trying to undermine it, and have succeeded a little bit. Organic foods don't always taste better, but that's not why they're worth the extra money: organic (or small-farmed mostly-organic) growing is simply the only sustainable way to produce food. Corporate monocultures will eventually cease operation, either because the soil becomes so stripped it simply won't produce food anymore, or because consumers and legislators force corporations to steward our soil more responsibly. I don't have a great feeling it will be the latter.

@cambriana, USDA regulates the term "organic" in the U.S., and controls the organic certification, even for imported products. True, there are producers who cut corners (Horizon), and the requirements may not be as stringent as they could be, but there is an accepted definition.

I kinda get what cambriana is saying--I think one of the problems with buying something automatically because you see the word "organic" is that lately there's been a huge surge in big business organic. You're buying a lot of products that are manufactured by companies like Kraft, which are completely pushing small, family farms out of business.

I'm happy to see some people say that buying locally is more important than buying organic--Whole Foods has great stuff, yeah, but people like my dad (who farms a small, pesticide-free but can't afford to be certified organic farm) just cannot compete. Yes, it's important to make sure we take care of the environment and our bodies by purifying the ingredients in our food, but it's also equally important to keep those small family farms afloat, or we'll be overrun by big business, "organic factories."

If I happen to be buying a particular product, at a particular price and it happens to be organic... OK. Otherwise, it doesn't matter at all in the influence of my purchase.

Organic farms use insecticides. Rotenone and Pyrethrin are two common ones and they are not innocuous.

I don't know what organic website told you that the USDA regulates organic produce....but it simply is NOT true. That is why so many people have gotten sick from so-called "organic" produce.. Organic does NOT mean safe to eat.. Do your homework.

@cambriana - to become "certified organic" is a long, expensive and extremely strict process. The soil has to be purified for 7-8 years, for a start. And DavidinCT is certainly correct that organic farms use pesticides just as much as non-organic farms do. The problems usually start AFTER certification - nobody's out there testing organic produce from a farm after it's been certified to make sure it's 100% organic, so for the most part, it runs on the honor system.

However, I'm a little confused as to why you think "so many people have gotten sick" from organic produce. I've never heard of that happening, if it has, it might have something to do with the misapplication of organic pesticides, but again, that doesn't mean it's not organic.

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