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Picky eaters confess all (Oh, help me!)

On a recent visit to in the in-laws, MIL started telling us about foods that they like and don't like. The only meat she says FIL likes are hamburgers, hot dogs, smoked sausages, pork chops, and ham. They don't like ANY spices at all The vegetables he DOES like includes green beans, lettuce, and green beans.

I was mildly devastated by this. Over the years, I've tried to make things they like, knowing that they're picky. But based on this new list, it says they haven't like any of the meals I've made for them.

First, my feelings are hurt they didn't tell me about this a long time ago. I've wasted a lot of food, time, and spices.

Second, I feel like I should apologize for serving the abovementioned food, because I like my guests to enjoy themselves.

Third, I'm just randomly ticked off.

We're supposed to be having a postponed Father's Day dinner at our house in 2 weeks. I'm thinking of just buying steaks (she didn't list those, and I think it's because she'd never spend the $$) and then making salad, green beans and baked spuds. And making that the dinner forever after. Less brain damage for me.

I dunno...do you think I should apologize? Is my anger justified?

These are my inlaws, and other than food issues, they're really nice people. And they live 6 blocks away.

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Hah! I totally understand your hurt feelings - my husband's brother and his family are crazy picky! And generally opt to tell me things like "oh, we don't like our green beans this crunchy," since I don't cook them for hours in bacon fat.

Don't apologize - you're not a mind reader and your MIL was probably just talking, not even realizing that you might take her comments as anything. And don't let your miffedness get the best of ya - I'm sure that even if it's not the food that they would choose to make themselves, they have enjoyed every time you've been kind enough to make them dinner.

And by all means, make them steaks, salad, green beans and taters until you feel like making them something else!

When you make meals for them, do they eat the food? I would not apologize because you have not done anything to warrant an apology. Going forward, stick with what they say they like to eat. I also don't think you need to be angry. Not everyone lives to eat. My dad eats to live and it is always a "treat" cooking for him! I just go with it knowing there are lots of people in my life who will run over each other to sit at my table. ;-D

Wow...ya think we have the same in-laws??
Mine do raw baby carrots-iceberg lettuce-raw baby carrots.
Actually my MIL likes to try new things, but has given up as her DH and daughter who has not left home are soooo picky.
My FIL literally eats only plain meats, potatoes in some manner with lots of butter, iceberg lettuce and fresh baby carrots (and no, a cut-up large carrot is not the same) Ketchup is the only spice. He loves his sugary, salty stuff though, but only from a package or fast-food. I make some lovely dessert and he will have a bowl of plain ice-cream.
The SIL eats more items, but only if made just her way. Fresh spinach with ALL the stem removed. Gravy from a jar..etc.

I had them up for a meal for my DH's b-day, making what HE wanted to eat, and they have not stopped whining about it yet.
I gave up when the MIL asked me to make a lemon pie for grampa for his B-day to eat after we went out for supper. She then took us to an Amish place where the pie is reknown and everyone ate pie there. wtf.

I no longer will cook for them at all, why bother. I bring a bread or plain salad to meals we go to, and we don't have them over for meals, just visits or dinner out.

I agree...make them what they will eat if they do come over often..it will save a headache I bet. If you feel like the trouble, you can always make at least one dish you really enjoy and maybe as time goes on they will taste a few of them.

Good luck. I feel your pain. I can only be glad mine are not 6 blocks away! :D

@Laurall, I'm in the midst of a good miffedness, but I'm sure I'll get over it.

@izatryt, I think the anger is mainly that they didn't tell me this before. I've wasted a lot of good food and spices, and a whole lot of time prepping and cooking, and if they didn't enjoy it, it really was a waste. If they wanted a hunk of meat and a potato, I could have been doing that in a lot less time, instead of spending hours and sometimes days on meal prep for them.

I absolutely hate the fake politeness of people who tell you how much they like a meal when really they'd prefer to be at McDonalds. You don't have to like my food, but if you don't, then don't say you do. And I'll do something different next time.

Over the years, I've created a list of what these people don't like, but this is the first time I've been given the short list of, "this is what is acceptable." It would have been a lot less brain damage if I had that list to start off with.

@sadie- Ok, I am technologically still in the Middle Ages... what does 'DH' stand for? :)

@db - Okay. I will embrace your miffedness and be miffed with you for the next 30 minutes. Then let's have a glass of vino and talk about what yummy meal we could enjoy with our SE pals! I don't have a high miffedness level.

The important thing is, you now know what they really like (maybe) and can plan accordingly. Most people have a difficult time telling their host (family or otherwise) that they dislike the food prepared for them, especially when they know it was prepared with love.

Some people take it personally when you tell them I think your food is not to my liking - I can't stand like blah, or blah cooked in this manner. Could you make blah in this way next time?

I have had my share of food that I hate at pot lucks, e.g., pork, onions, garlic, cilantro, wings, etc. but I don't say anything. I just don't touch them.

It's like correcting someone's spelling or grammar. Most people really take offense to that, even though it pointing it out was meant to help.

I think it depends on whether people feel comfortable enough around you to tell you the truth.

@iz, I think it's a beer night. I've just finished the last bit of work that I get paid for and I'm about to print the invoice, the beans are just about ready to meet their refried fate, tortillas have been purchased from the local shop, and pretty much everything else is leftovers. Which is chicken cooked in a spicy sauce, and rice. Oh, and I bought avocados, so I should slice them open and de-pit them before the beer opens itself. There are chips from the farmer's market and some salsa in the fridge, too.

Limes, cilantro, pickled onions...

Ooooooo, I'm starting to feel better already :-)

Home made ice cream in the freezer, in my choice of vanilla, strawberry or banana.

Yeah, I'm feeling ALL better, now.

Thanks!

@chlamers: DH = dear (darling?) husband.

@db - Whew! And under 30 minutes. Impressive rally my friend. I am off to get a chilled glass of Smoking Loon Pinot Grigio. Enjoy your delightful dinner. If I was there dining with you, I would be in food heaven. ;-D

Not to get on your bad side... (eek) but it may be the idea of your miffedness that kept them from saying anything till now with each new meal making it harder to speak up. They also probably didn't want to hurt your feelings but there's really no reason to feel hurt because it's their deal but neither do you need to apologize since you aren't able to read minds. The only thing you might be remiss in is perhaps not getting clear with them about their preferences in the beginning. So, when you get over the feelings you are having, which are valid because they're real, then perhaps you can express that to them if you feel like it. Then just consider how much easier it will be to respect their tastes. That's the bright side here.

However, no doubt it's quite a blow after all these years so you have every reason to be full of conflicting emotions at the moment. Hopefully a year or two down the road this will be really funny.


My ex MIL was a doozy. She called me up one year before the holiday dinner to ask if there was anything in particular I wanted to eat and I said, sure... I'd love to have more of her apple cobbler (the only thing she made that I could think of that I would remotely like). She then informed me that we weren't having that and listed off what we would be eating. I still haven't figured out the point of the call and it's been years.

@chlamers--yep, sorry, DH is dear husband....can you tell I am on the computer too much? :)

@izatryt--Smoking Loon makes a Pinot Grigio?? Why have I never seen this??? I am sad and must go to the store!

Feed them a baby goat roasted over an open fire. It looks very much like the neighbor's poodle. Put some nice blood red yams in the coals. Stew some okra. And for dessert, lukewarm tapioca pudding with durian. They'll never ask to eat at your house again.

@Sieseye, no one's getting on my bad side today. Usually when I'm feeling snarky about things, I step back and take a deep breath and sometimes check the feelings with saner people because I know that sometimes it's just a bad day and I'm taking out frustrations on random nonsense. I worked all weekend this past weekend, stopped at the inlaws, got this dumped upon me, sat around for a couple more hours wishing I could get home and finish working, and ended up working until the wee hours of the morning because the power company decided that they needed to shut us off for half the day to work on lines on Monday. This, I found out on Saturday. So, instead of having Monday morning to finish the job, I had to have it out on Sunday before the power went off.

So, I may have heard MILs comments with some frustration already in place.

Since I know they're picky, I usually check the menu with them ahead of time, and it all gets okayed before I even go to the store. I knew there were certain spices they don't like and I avoided them, but when she said no spices at all, it threw me for a loop. That pretty much covers every meal I've ever made for them.

Which is why a good steak is about all I can imagine cooking now. It's fine, plain. Baked potato, ditto. It will all be fine.

@sadie - Oh Yeah!!!!!

@fewteeth - That's just ssssoooooo bad!!!!!!!

Your in-laws are "really nice people". Do you have any idea how rare that is? I'd be grateful they finally fessed up. I'll just bet that they have served you food you didn't care for, but you complimented the meal? Time for you to fess up, too. It's how we humans try to get along, but knowing the truth is helpful, as long as it's not thrown in your face in an attempt to hurt you or put you down.

I agree with izatryt..........have a nice glass of wine and count your blessings.

@dbcurrie, I was just trying to be a lil' silly 'bout your bad side. :]

After several years, if you didn't have some flood of feelings over this then you'd not be human. It's really goofy. My mom considered me picky but she had no idea what picky was which is my daughter (my mom's infernal curse on me come true) and even my girl has a much broader taste than your in-laws. Even when I ate meat I couldn't imagine an unseasoned steak. On the bright side, a good basic salad and baked potato can be really satisfying and those are both something that can be individualized with toppings.

You have my sympathies with the power company fiasco too. If it will help you feel any better they've been ripping up the street just outside my place for several months now (no notice). Noise all day starting at 7am. We walked out this evening and the entire block is paved with the smoothest sea of black I've ever seen after a weekend with 4 foot deep holes in front of the driveway (no notice). The bright side of the mess is that people were going really slow down the street and it detoured the bus that went by every twenty minutes until 1am (so I was getting to bed earlier which was good as I'd be up at 7...). Though I am hoping now that they've paved it all pretty they won't need to rip it up again as they have been over and over and over.

Do count your blessings that it's your MIL married to your FIL and not you and that you obviously did much better. That they are nice is a double blessing indeed. I really mean that. Not having to see the in-laws again may be the best part of the ex™ being the ex™ and he was a real booger himself.

oh........ nothing to confuse. when the food is in front of u shoudent get confuse. cos when the food is in front of you the food wont go any were. so be in a patient's while having the food .and be in a peace fulminde wile having the food. cos then only u con enjoy the taste of the food.
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Did they mean this as a confessional or as conversation? I only ask because if they are not foodies, they might not understand how much this means to you--to cook food for company that everyone can enjoy, It sounds like they always put cost over food taste and quality, from what you say.

I think lots of people tend to prefer how they eat at home than they do at someone's home, but accept having to eat differently (within reason) as part of being polite. For example,it took years for my stepmother (another difficult relationship, almost as much as MIL-wife relationships) to accept that I do not eat meat or many traditional, heavy Greek dishes. I can now eat a salad there--the salad is with iceberg lettuce and garlic, tomato, and olive oil. No vineger, no other veggies. I don't like olive oil, iceberg, or garlic, I would make my own salad very different, and I like many other vegetables, but lettuce and tomato is all they eat. So I deal. I've even had to deal with being told that potato and rice dishes are 'vegetarian' only to find out that to her, veggie means made with chicken broth--or bacon bits
:( I've tried bringing my own dishes, but she won't even serve them to company, she just throws them out, even cookies I bought at an expensive bakery one year, thinking she would like having a few more cookies to serve with coffee after the meal to the large crowd.

Sometimes you can't win. you can't change people, period, but especially food tastes and your in-laws probably accept that their palates are the kind that, even if they could eat at the French Laundry, they'd probably prefer having a burger at home.

However, if things are emotionally okay, since this upsets you so much, I might broach the subject in a nonconfrontational way. "Last time we talked you mentioned that you only like x. I didn't know that, I'm sorry because I served x, y, q, before, and you always ate it--it means alot that you feel comfortable at my house, enjoying the food I prepare and I put in a lot of effort into my cooking. Did you really like it--I'm confused now."

Also, on a more humorous note--check to make sure they like steaks. Some people only like the Ground Round :p

uh oh, I've only been married a year.... they always SAY they like my food, and that what I brought is just perfect..... do they secretly hate my food?! should i stop cooking for the inlaws completely? you guys are scaring me!

@joel7 - HUH?

You didn't say how old your ILs were. If they're well into their 70s or 80s they may have digestion problems, teeth problems, etc. My MIL (whom I refer to as Elphaba) hasn't been to my house for dinner in 10 years. (My FIL is deceased. It was the only way he could escape her). Anyway, we find it far less enervating to take her out. That way she can send back whatever she can't chew as I look at the poor waitperson with a pitiful expression. Thank God, the rest of her family are 3000 mi away.

@HeartofGlass.......I'm sure I'm not the only one picturing My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Vegetarian? No problem, we'll have lamb! You are living that movie! So funny.

I would move far, far away.

^ Yup--that is so true! It's funny, according to nutritionists, the Greek diet is so healthy. But my stepmother and father didn't even know what hummus is--they thought it was "mushrooms." Greek to them means a loaf of bread eaten with copious amounts of olive oil, several pounds of lamb or fish, and Greek baked pasta in cheese, with spinach pie and feta as the vegetable.

I suppose to be fair, 'vegetarian' to my stepmother is chicken, not lamb ;)

I suppose the really important thing, not to thread-hijack, is that the fact that your MIL and FIL are picky eaters is a 'personal' thing based on age and habit, not a rejection of you--it doesn't sound like they're trying to articulate their rejection of you as a person in terms of food, which is a relief.

@nalega - Congratulations! You made it through the first year and the IL's like your cooking. Unless they start pushing the food around on their plates, you are good to go.

I AM an in-law and have a precious daughter in law that is a wonderful cook. I would be devastated though if I knew she was miffed at me for something as small as my food preferences. I believe since they are your husband's parents, you ought to do what you can, while he still has them, to make them happy and comfortable in your home. His food preferences aren't something he's got against you, it sounds like it's just what the man likes. They won't always be around, and one day you'll want to look back and laugh about your FIL's love affair with green beans. It's an old person thing, I'd say - let it go, and stick with pork chops and green beans as your best bet. You'll be his favorite daughter in law, and he'll love coming for dinner! ;-)

To answer a bunch of comments, the conversation started with my FIL saying that my MILs cooking had improved since he met her (this is a second marriage for both, later in life, after all the kids had left the nest) and MIL said that in part its because she doesn't cook any of the things she used to, she cooks all different things because he didn't like anything she cooked before. The "before" included things like casseroles, one of which she described that sounded rather, um, odd.

Anyway, that's when she said that it actually made shopping and cooking easier because there are only the few meats he likes. Now, I know that he will eat other things. She said that he doesn't like fish, but I know she cooks fish during Lent anyway. So the list of things was things he LIKES but not necessarily that the won't eat other things. He just won't like them. Sometimes he will make a peanut butter sandwich if he really doesn't like it enough.

Then she went on to say that in other respects, they have some of the same tastes and neither of them LIKES any spices. Not that they won't eat food that has spices in/on it, but they don't like them, so she owns NO spices. Not even black pepper.

As far as medical issues, that isn't it. MIL has digestion issues with cucumbers, and she once said she was allergic to celery seeds (somebody put it in potato salad at a potluck, and when she got ill afterwards, she blamed it on the celery seeds, never mind that she ate some of everything. Otherwise, she can't eat citrus within 2 hours of taking some medication, but that's it. Trust me, if there were medical issues, I would hear about it.

As far as food, MIL actually doesn't care what food tastes like, it just has to be good enough so you can chew and swallow and it won't poision you. This is partially because her youth, when there were times when there was no food, and no hope of having any that day. So now, she just cares that it's there. I understand that, and it's fine. She is, however, quick to criticize food she's had at restaurants and at other people's houses, so she can taste things. It's just that in her own preparation, taste is not an important factor.

I always thought the only reason she didn't use spices was that she, personally didn't care what the food tasted like, and because her goal is to have everything done in as short a time as possible. She has told me this a number of times. What it tastes like doesn't matter, she's not going to spend the time.

However, this was the FIRST time she said that they disliked all spices, and that's why she didn't buy them. Before, she said that she thought it wasn't worth the time or money. Now she's saying she doesn't like spices, which is different.

And no, money isn't tight one little bit. She is frugal, though. I bought and cooked a prime rib for FIL a few years ago -- real prime, real aged beef -- and he was thrilled (it was what he "wished" for). She pretty much said that it was good, but she wouldn't spend that kind of money on meat because hamburger is the same thing.

As far as favorite daughter-in-law, I'm the only one of 12 within 900 miles, so I'm in a special place.

My husband and I found ourselves in a sticky food situation. A co-worker invited us as well as another couple over for dinner. Salmon was to be the main course. No matter how much we try, we cannot swallow salmon. It's not that we just don't like it - we detest it. So, what to do? Do we insult our hosts by leaving the main course untouched, or do we politely explain ahead of time that we can't eat salmon, but would surely enjoy the rest of the meal. We opted for the latter, and co-worker was very understanding. The next day he announced that the main course had been changed to swordfish. Eeeeks! We hate that too. (We're not big fish people.) I decided to politely 'fess up to our host about the fish "thing". Again, he was very understanding, and we ended up with filet mignon. I felt guilty with every delicious bite I took. We ended up dictating the meal for four other people which seemed so unfair. But I felt it was better than insulting our hosts by not eating a meal in which they had invested a lot of work and money. I made sure to reciprocate the invitation the following month, and asked for suggestions as to what they were hungry for. I'm glad I did because co-worker's new wife ate only Kosher. I guess the moral of my story is to be considerate and serve what your guests like, not what you enjoy cooking. They'll always leave happy and will look forward to their next invitation.

db--you're one of TWELVE?!!

OK, on topic, first I have to heave a huge SIGH! It's frustrating at times, yes, but God love 'em, what can you do? My sisters and I shrug all the time over our parents and our respective in-laws. It's the nature of things. One day, I suppose, I might have kids and kid-in-laws that will be sighing and shrugging over the things I do and say...LOL.

When my parents were visiting I was busting my ass to cook low-fat, low-salt, low-spice, low-sugar bc my dad is such a fanatic about all those things and bc my mom has had health issues. One day Hunter comes home with a big-ass prime, prime-rib...there went all the health issues out the window. Baked potato, salad and wine--my parents loved every bite.

Your meat and potatoes menu should please them. They won't be around forever, give em what they want...even if that means hot dogs and green beans (for real? "green beans, lettuce and green beans?")

LOL--if it makes you feel better, I'd be happy to eat your food.

@wookie, I'm actually an only child, which is sort of stupid to say as an adult, when I come to think of it. But I have no siblings. And my parents are gone, too, so there's no close family of mine that we deal with.

My DH is one of six kids, and the man his mom married (after all kids were grown and gone) also had six kids. So between the two of them, there are 12 sets of couples. Of the twelve couples, we're the only ones within something like 900 miles and like I said, we're about six blocks away from them. So we're the ones who see them on every holiday, their birthdays, our birthdays, other people's birthdays, and random days in between. Which is nice in a way, but considering how much I like to cook and how varied DH's and my tastes are, it's hard to come up with meals for holidays that will fit our tastes and theirs. And now, that list is even shorter.

And yes, the vegetation list is rather short. I've seen him eat carrots, although I don't know if he likes them. But at their house, it's pretty much always green beans. With hot dogs it might be baked beans (canned) but that's about as far as it goes.

He'll eat potatoes, too. He ate winter squash once at my house because he thought it was sweet potato. But he said he usually doesn't like squash.

I'm getting used to the steak and baked potato idea for next weekend, but going forward, I don't know if I'm going to be thrilled with making steak every time we have them over. Roasts are an option, but I need to get his definition of "roasts." I don't know if turkey and chicken cooked in the oven count as roasts, but poultry wasn't on her list. However, we've had them here for the traditional Thankgiving turkey a number of times and he said he enjoyed the meal, which is another reason this is all so baffling. My stuffing has plenty of spices and he's always taken multiple servings of that. And there have been plenty of other meals that they've claimed to have liked. And eaten themselves nearly into a food coma over. I dunno...I just don't get it. Maybe this is some new kind of madness.

@josdean, I ALWAYS check with people ahead of time, unless I know them really well, or I'm serving something we've had together before. With my inlaws, since I know they're picky, I always check with them ahead of time, just in case. Or, when it comes to sides, I'll make several things, one will be something I know they like (green beans) and then I'll have something else, just in case one or the other might like it. And up until now, I've gotten the green light beforehand on every meal, and compliments during and after. AND sometimes they'll even take leftovers home so they can have them for lunch the next day.

Sigh. I'll survive. DH will happily eat anything I cook.

I really think you should talk this over with your MIL--I think you may have read too much into her comments. It honestly sounds to me like she meant: "I am not that into food preparation and it's much easier to make a cheap burger and be done with it and know my husband is satisfied" as small talk rather than meant a comment against anything you had prepared.

@Heart Oh, believe me, we've had lots of conversations about food, and quite often it's a discussion of what one or the other doesn't like. Onions, cucumbers, anything in the cabbage family, aspargus, artichokes, black pepper, celery seeds, mint, olive oil, anything spicy or vinegary, etc. Every time I see them, it seems another item is added to the list, and I do keep a list. But this is the first time she's said "this is what he DOES like."

She said something along the lines of how he's not really a picky eater, it's just that there's a very short list of what he likes, and it makes her shopping and cooking easier because she doesn't have to deal with a variety of things. No need to use recipes, because most of what's going to be there, they don't like. For example, neither of them likes any spices at all, so when she makes pork chops, she just cooks them plain in the George Foreman grill.

I don't think she meant it in a mean way about my cooking, but a short time before, DH had been talking about some spices I had ordered online, and shortly afterwards, she made the comment about how they don't like any spices at all. I really think it was an around-the-block way of telling me that they're prefer it if I would cook differently for them.

DH is going to have coffee with them tomorrow morning. He'll probably get more info, considering I've asked him to find out for sure that FIL likes steak, and to find out if there are any particular steaks he doesn't like.

I believe the inlaws are just trying wield some power and have some sort of control over you (which it sounds like they do). Personnally, I wouldn't give in to their demands and make whatever you want. If you don't break this power-trip, they will control you forever, and in other aspects of your life where your husband is concerned.

If you are uncomfortable with this, try making something along the lines of what they have served you in the past, then gradually break the vicious cycle.

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