Anatomy of a philly cheesesteak?
firstly, anyone from philly, i gotta ask--nobody in philadelphia gives a damn about cheesesteaks, do they?
secondly, and on to the point of this discussion, a tragedy and a horrible thing happened this week. a little sandwich shop up the street from my house closed, meaning now I have to make my own cheesesteaks.
and I understand the basic idea: cheese and steak, meet hoagie roll. steak can bring his friends onions and green peppers if he wants.
but what sort of proportions should i use? what kind of cheese? what cut of meat?
any help would be appreciated, cos i'll be honest, i'm totally jonesin' for a big meaty tube of awesomeness right now.
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19 Comments:
Everyone claims a different cut of meat. When I cut the meat myself with a food slicer I used a mostly frozen roast. Not solid frozen but firm.
I often get "chipped steak" sliced thin at the meat market. If you havea butcher ask them for chipped (from a frozen roast) sandwich steak thin.
I used a ribeye roast or a any solid not top quality but not gristly. You slice this paper thin and place it between sheets of freezer paper or wax paper. This has to be cooked at high heat fast. Your friends onions (WIT) or no onions (WITOUT) salt and pepper the meat while cooking. Slice your roll and then Wiz, american or provolone.
I like mine American, WIT, ketchup and some cherry pepper mash. I grew up on philly cheesesteak like that.
JerzeeTomato at 1:03AM on 06/10/08
JerzeeTomato is right on the money, it's called chipped steak. I like mine with provolone cheese and fried onions.
I just bought the "This is my cheesesteak" documentary DVD, so I can't wait to watch it!
jonfoxx at 7:14AM on 06/10/08
I buy ribeyes, trim them, freeze about 15 minutes, then chip/slice them up in my food processor. I am also a provolone and fried onions girl.
Cooks Country (sister site of Cooks Illustrated) has a recipe that I like, the site is down so I can't access it now. I think others like an epicurious.com recipe.
The basic method is sauteing the onions in a large skillet (sometimes we add mushrooms), set them aside. Fry the meat in the skillet, it cooks pretty fast, add cheese if you like once meat is browned, cover the skillet for about a minute to melt the cheese. Form the sandwiches, and wrap in foil to keep warm and let the flavors blend while you brown the rest of the meat. (Usually you can make 2 sandwiches at a time in a 12-inch skillet.)
I think I've got tomorrow night's dinner planned now that you've got my craving started!
bobcatsteph3 at 8:34AM on 06/10/08
Cheez Whiz is sad that it hasn't been mentioned yet.
worldcupfever at 10:13AM on 06/10/08
I've lived in Philly, but no Cheez Whiz for me thanks. I grill a NY strip or ribeye to medium rare, cut thin slices and place on AUTHENTIC HOAGIE ROLL which is slightly crisp on the outside, tender on the inside. I add carmelized onions and peppers. If I'm having cheese (usually not), it will be provolone. Lastly, I add ketchup or tomato sauce.
PerkyMac at 10:27AM on 06/10/08
I agree - JerzeeTomato is spot on. No one mentioned the hoagie roll, which IMO has been a deal breaker for me when trying to get a cheesesteak outside of Philly. Ppl can get the meat and fillings right, but the bread never tastes the same.
onespicymama at 11:27AM on 06/10/08
Slightly off topic - my fiance and his siblings recently returned to Allentown PA where the older two (including my man) were born (my inlaws were there, we surprised them with a 50th wedding anniversary party). We did a tour of their original house, school, etc etc. While driving around, the two boys (aged 45 and 49) shrieked when they saw that "George's" was still there. Apparently their mother sent them there for lunch every Tuesday for 50 cent Philly Cheesesteaks (she had a bible study that day). We had to go in.
Would you believe - completely the same more than 40 years later except for the flooring. New owner, but someone who had delivered papers to the place as a child. Same cook top! He whipped up some cheese steaks that took those guys back to childhood - a hoagie roll, chopped steak, onions, and some kind of secret sauce. They were in heaven.
Maureen at 11:45AM on 06/10/08
Big meaty tube of awesomeness was my radio name back in 60's
nelson5757 at 12:15PM on 06/10/08
Thanks, Jerzee Tomato! I was a Pennsylvania country girl so didn't have cheesesteak often, but miss it. Now I will try to do my own.
Blue Iris at 12:27PM on 06/10/08
Perky....you got it, Hon! I still think Cheez Whiz is disgusting. Provolone, green peppers, onions and mayo.
RichardCrystal at 1:50PM on 06/10/08
I just grab shaved steak from the grocery store. In a pinch you can use rare roast beef sliced thin. Pan on high heat, fry up the onions (peppers and mushrooms optional) and set them aside, throw in the beef which has been tossed with a very very small amount of oil, cook it up, add the veggies back in, portion into piles to fit your grinder rolls. Here's the magic part: butterfly the rolls and place them over each mound. It will steam up real nice and soften beautifully, also helps in the cheese melting. To get them out of the pan, just slide a spatula underneath and sorta squeeze the roll halves onto the filling.
ratbuddy at 5:37PM on 06/10/08
I'm from Philly and I give a damn about cheesesteaks. And, for the record, if you're not using cheez whiz on your steak, you're just being uppity about it. There is no grey area here. It's cheez whiz or I hate you.
johnhutch at 10:02AM on 06/11/08
I love you, "johnhutch".
worldcupfever at 10:35AM on 06/11/08
Cheez Wiz is the way to go. American can be a last minute substitute, but goopey, drippin' Cheez Wiz is the way to go. The kid at my local grocery had never heard of Cheez Wiz before. Damn kids.
Montana Eats at 11:43AM on 06/11/08
@johnhutch - Will you marry me?
izatryt at 6:07PM on 06/15/08
@johnhutch - Will you marry me?
izatryt at 6:08PM on 06/15/08
Didn't mean to post twice. Kind of looks like I am desperate!
izatryt at 6:17PM on 06/15/08
See this! http://www.andtheeggs.net/2007/09/cheesesteaks-and-eagles-game.html
JenniferNaomi at 9:11AM on 06/16/08
Steak, provolone, fried onions-no ketchup--sliced hot cherry peppers. I don't order Cheez Whiz but if you order it in Philly it's "CheezWIT
dmurphy118 at 10:58AM on 06/16/08