Herb Garden
I want to start an herb garden to made my dishes more delicious, any advice? Am I too late in the season?
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No, it's not too late - just buy them at a nursery. I suppose it depends on what you cook, but I think basil, chives, oregano, thyme and rosemary are great basics for an herb garden. Maybe some mint too - just keep an eye on it. It will take over your garden. And the best part is everything I listed (except the basil) are perennials and will come back year after year (depending on your location).
onespicymama at 10:11PM on 05/25/08
we just got our first plant (basil) at the farmer's market last weekend...sadly our tiny new york apartment won't sustain much more than that, but if we could, i would definitely go with the ones onespicymama suggested. the farmer's market by us also has really interesting varieties - like lemon thyme, different basils, etc., so if you wanted to be creative stephie you could get different types (don't know how much space you have). also, i hear tomatoes (i know, not an herb, but...close enough?) are a great thing to grow at home too, i would do it if i could find a corner to stick them in!
billyburgwife at 11:27PM on 05/25/08
It depends on where you live. I add to mine almost weekly. There's always something interesting at the nursery.
beth1 at 11:40PM on 05/25/08
You can certainly do it. Just started ours and I am already clipping thyme to add to my recipes. Good luck!
izzy's mama at 11:54PM on 05/25/08
I have a round pot of soil in my kitchen with chives in the center (sporting beautiful purple flowers) and surrounded with basil, thyme, rosemary, sage and parsley. As long as I keep taking cuttings, it should work perfectly for most of my cooking needs. I also have a bay plant and another of Italian parsley because I use a lot of that. I'm hoping the basil will be enough. If not, I'll just plant more in another pot.
My mint and tarragon should be popping up soon outdoors.
PerkyMac at 12:16AM on 05/26/08
My boyfriend got me this thing called an Aerogarden for Christmas. It's insane, it was developed by scientists. They're kind of pricey, but in a matter of weeks you'll have loads of fresh herbs. There's no dirt required. They grow in water and this machine type thing does everything for you. I swear by mine and use the herbs religiously. You should look into buying one.
PumpkinBear at 1:39AM on 05/26/08
@Pumpkinbear - We saw the Aerogarden at Sam's or Costco and my only concern about it is the counter real estate it gobbles. The thing itself looks great though and a wonderful way to have fresh herbs at your fingertips.
We have a bunch of pots in the yard. Rosemary, Sage, Thyme, Basil, Oregano and Parsley all live there now but I frequently add to them. I love Purple Basil but I don't like the cross-flavors like cinnamon basil and lemon thyme.
PS - The biggest hint in keeping your herb plants healthy...Use them. My basil plants did not get bushy until I increased my usage of fresh basil. Next thing I know, they look like a hedge.
chiff0nade at 8:15AM on 05/26/08
@PumpkinBear -- I got two AeroGardens for Christmas, and I use them both for herbs. (One is planted with only Italian Parsley and Basil, since I tend to use those the most, and sometimes as an "ingredient" rather than a seasoning, and the other has thyme, mint, oregano, rosemary, sage, and tarragon.) Like you, I now swear by mine. The herbs are clean and pest-free and ready whenever I need them. I also grow herbs outdoors in my garden, but use them really only as back-up now. (I usually end up drying them.)
Here's something maybe one of you more experienced gardeners can tell me, though... I live in Massachusetts, and would love to have a bay leaf bush. Does anyone know if I would have success this far north growing one? I have had so many conflicting opinions, but would love to know what you think. Is it possible?
Brownie at 9:32AM on 05/26/08
growing herbs outside (or on a sunny window sill) is easy! the more you use them, the more the plant is encouraged to grow. need to take trimmings, but don't have any herb specific cooking planned? cut some herbs, and put them in a vase of water, like cut flowers. they'll live indoors for up to a week.
just want a little herbs? some nurseries sell mixed herb planters. if you do a mixed herb planter, i suggest one that is 10" or larger, otherwise there really isn't enough room for all the stuff in it to grow healthy.
if you're going to grow any mint, put it in a planter, or sink a plastic bucket into the ground and plant it in there. although very tasty and useful, all mints (and lavendars too) are incredibly invasive and will kill anything in their path. although a yard full of mint or lavender could cut down on mowing. . . .
redhead at 10:12AM on 05/26/08
My mother planted a bay leaf plant and it ended up becoming a bush. It's a very sturdy plant and from what I could tell, it was very easy...at least in Hawaii.
Cassaendra at 11:23AM on 05/26/08
Ok Aerogarden fans, you have my attention.
I found one on Craigslist for $85. That's kind of a lot of money for me, but I might be willing to spend it if this truly is a (mostly) fail-safe way to get herbs. I read some reviews on Amazon that the pump gives out. Have you had any problems with it? Is it something that is always on? I have a cat and 2 dogs, and I dont know that I'd like to leave them with an electric device full of water.
Thanks.
renzata at 12:11PM on 05/26/08
@Brownie.........I keep my bay in a container and it winters indoors (PA). I've had them last for quite a few years, and then I cry and have to start over. They don't last outdoors here, so I doubt they would further north.
PerkyMac at 12:20PM on 05/26/08
@renzata -- I've never had a problem with the pumps on my AeroGardens. Now you've got me worried! LOL!
All that having been said, I'm not sure I'd leave a water-filled electrical device running with 2 dogs and a cat, either. My dog is little, and doesn't bother with it at all, but maybe yours aren't little, so that's a call only you can make.
Good luck!
Brownie at 12:22PM on 05/26/08
@redhead.........I have several acres and mow with a tractor. There are a few areas where I can't get the mower and those are perfect places to plant mint and tarragon. They kill the weeds so I never have to weed whack and they come back every year. I love both herbs for cooking and plant them in containers near the kitchen. I never had lavender spread like that, although it was in a container - it didn't seem too hardy.
PerkyMac at 12:34PM on 05/26/08
@PerkyMac - Thanks. I may try the "container" trick. I love fresh Bay Leaves, and think a plant or bush would be wonderful to have.
Brownie at 12:50PM on 05/26/08
Renzata, $85 is a bargain. I think they're usually like $140. I've had no problem with the pump at all. It's seriously the best way to grow herbs; no mess, no hassle and they're perfect and they keep growing as long as you keep adding the "nutrient tablets."
PumpkinBear at 6:12PM on 05/26/08
@Brownie: I worked for the Massachusetts Horticultural Society in one of my former lives and we used to tell people they needed to take bay trees inside in the winter as PerkyMac suggests. You might want to try outside if you live in an unusually warm area (down near the Cape maybe) or in a city AND you could plant the bay tree next to a south facing wall of the house AND there was wind protection (an ell of the house or a tall tight fence or wall) to the west. You would still need to do winter protection: something like tall stakes to support a burlap wrap all around the bay tree with loose salt hay or straw stuffed inside to entirely cover it.
If you are still inspired after all of the above, find a local garden club and see if anyone is growing bay, camellias or figs. Those people would know the right tricks for you to use.
Blue Iris at 7:23PM on 05/26/08
Brownie...in live in Massachusetts too. Not sure where you are located, but there is a place in Salisbury MA called the Herb Farmacy. They sell all organic herbs, plants, etc. It's where I get all my stuff! The ladies who own it are amazing and a wealth of information. I've learned so much from them. I just put in my herbs and tomatoes this weekend (or rather my husband did my garden). I do container gardening and they have been so helpful in recommending what plants will work well and how to care, etc.
Tracey
Pawsinhand at 7:27PM on 05/26/08
i grow several of the herbs the other folks have mentioned, basil is the easiest, i also grow garlic in containers, just use the garlic cloves you buy at the grocery, plant it in october and you'll have fresh garlic in may. basil and garlic tend to be very forgiving plants and don't require special attention, all they need is soil, water and sun.
olddad at 7:47PM on 05/26/08
I went ahead and got a few pots today, after thinking about the pet situation with the Aerogarden. There wasn't much left at the nursery, so I picked up apple mint, thyme, chives, and a little bay tree.
I tried to grow chives from seed last year, and while they never died, they didn't seem to grow very much. I have 2 little plants with about 6-8 leaves in them. I read before that chives should be "divided." Can anyone explain what this means and when I should do it? They are very tall now, so if i want to use a little bit, should I try to take a whole length, or snip at the middle of several?
renzata at 2:08AM on 05/27/08
@Cassaendra - that is SO unfair. In Hawaii, you guys plant a toothpick and get an oak tree!
chiff0nade at 7:45AM on 05/27/08
@renzata: Chives can be divided (made into two or more plants) when they have formed a big clump. Are yours in the shade or in very poor soil. Chives like a richer soil than some other herbs. Or is it still fairly cool where you live?
Blue Iris at 11:52AM on 05/27/08
Reading this thread made me want to make a trip to a nursery, considering that I use plenty of herbs when I cook. Since I've never ever had an herb garden (and I'm not really sure I can grow anything, since even my modest cactus collection died on me some 20 years ago), I'll ask what will probably look like an absolutely daft question - is it better to plant seeds or to buy "ready" herb plants when you start an herb garden? Any particular soil recommendations?
brooke29 at 12:16PM on 05/27/08
Blue Iris, my chives are in a container. Right now, they are still in the pot from the nursery (got them only yesterday). i live in an apartment, and my patio gets a lot of sunlight for most of the day, but it's a corner unit, so I have the option of placing them in sunnier (south) or shadier (east) sides.
The weather is miserably hot, already holding steady in the 90s. Should I keep them inside?
renzata at 12:28PM on 05/27/08
I am in Fort Worth and we grow mint in hanging baskets on the patio. Not only do they look beautiful, but they smell so good and they are handy for mojitos. Basil, chives, rosemary, mexican oregano, bay, thyme, 2 kinds of parsley, mexican mint marigold do really well in pots or in the ground with morning sun and some protection from the afternoon heat here. Never put mint in the ground unless you put it in a pot at least 8 inches deep to keep it from spreading.
ocarol at 12:39PM on 05/27/08
renzata: I thought you were saying last year's chives were still so small! I was wondering what happened to the poor things!
I don't know a lot about patio gardening other than you have to be real careful not to let things dry out. Maybe put the pot into a bigger pot with peat moss or gravel or something between the two pots to keep the sides of the inside pot from drying out.
Nursery stuff does need to be put in bigger pots sometime but I would wait for a nice clump before transplanting.
Also, regular fertilizing is important for container plants.
I know there are some good patio gardeners writing on this string so I will bow out. Good luck. Chives grow fast when they are happy.
Blue Iris at 2:05PM on 05/27/08
Thanks for the tips Blue Iris. When I read my previous comment, I realize that your interpretation was definitely the more sensible one. I threw out last years chives when I thought we were moving.
How long does it take to get a clump? Is there anything I should do to encourage this?
renzata at 3:06PM on 05/27/08
I tried to have an herb garden (from plants from the nursery) last summer. They did ok for a while, but all of them died eventually (the specifics are lost in my memory). I think part of the reason they died (aside from my black thumb) is that during the summer we travel quite a bit and several 3-4 day bouts with no love/water eventually did them in. I think the ones that finally finished the ones that survived most of the summer was our fluctuating temps here in Flagstaff (nice, somewhat hot summers with cool nights, but we get weird weather - it snowed on Friday!).
Do these Aerogardens do the watering and whatnot too, or would I probably have the same problems mentioned above?
joyyy at 7:47PM on 05/27/08
joyyy - I have an Aerogarden, and you need to add water once a week or so, and the nutrient tables that come with your seeds get added every couple of weeks, so pretty low maintenance. I wouldn't leave it for weeks at a time, but if you top it off before you go out of town, it should be ok.
I'm not much of a gardener (I'm famous for filling planters when I have house guests and never watering them after they leave.) but I do like my aerogarden. You won't get enough basil at a time to make a big batch of pesto, but for general seasoning needs you should be fine. I'm growing cherry tomatoes now and they're just about ripe.
cyberroo at 8:58PM on 05/27/08
It's definitely not too late. Nurseries and grocery stores are selling already grown plants you can just plant into your garden. I just bought a mint plant! And I plan on buying: basil and dill!
Hillary
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Chew on That at 6:37PM on 05/29/08