Does Where You Live Affect What You Like To Eat?
Have others had the experience of moving to a new climate or region and finding some of the local specialities disgusting? Then after a few months or years in that place you become the biggest muncher of those same local foods you thought you hated?
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26 Comments:
I think it has more to do with where you were born and what you ate while being raised that dictates what you find favorable in foods.
When I moved to CO, I couldn't believe the widespread use of either red or green chile sauce. It was like the only condiment you could find.
Living down in FL, I find I still crave the cold-weather foods of NY because that's what my body wants. A dish of fruit or a salad just won't cut it sometimes.
chiff0nade at 4:14PM on 05/05/08
Absolutely! I have a home [and hungry friends] in South Florida, where Cuban cuisine, an abundance of seafood and the mixtures of many cultures gives us quite the restaurant choices as well as abundance of fresh foods and extensive spice collections to mirror our dining out experiences. Then, in complete contrast, I have a home in Northern Minnesota where wild game, domestic lake fish and home grown veggies dominate the palates and plates of my friends. So, I ship my spices from house to house seasonally with me and make trips to Minneapolis to purchase fresh ocean fish to treat my 'up north' friends with some South FL cuisine. And then I ship fresh venison, duck, pheasant, wild rice & walleye to FL and give my FL friends a new cultural food experience.
AnnaBanana123 at 4:15PM on 05/05/08
grew up with the wonderful fresh seafood of new england, now living in hee haw hell. I still dont like deep fried cholesterol.
huney_bumper at 4:38PM on 05/05/08
Yes. Absolutely. I'm struggling to figure out how to answer this question, because for me the process of assimilating the foods of the different places I've lived into my diet has been different for each place.
When I moved to the Netherlands, I was twenty years old. It was really then that I began to cook for myself, and mostly, the kinds of things that I cooked weren't Dutch in the least. I related to the local cuisine mostly through packaged things like speculaas, stroopwafels, frietsaus, etc. Traditional Dutch dishes have been incorporated into my diet as I've got older and my relationship with the culture has deepened. So now I like things like zuurkool stamppot, but in the beginning they weren't even on my radar. Also, living in the Netherlands allowed me to develop a taste for Surinamese and Indonesian food, which I probably never would have been exposed to otherwise.
In London, I certainly found myself eating and enjoying things I never would have imagined liking, and many of those things are now permanent fixtures on the rotation (fish pie, fried breakfast, arbroath smokies, sausage and mash). The English approach towards diet, however, is not something that I have taken on, and I have to admit that having recently moved away, the food is the last thing I miss.
With Norway, I think it's still too early to say how I'll take to Norwegian food. We often ate Norwegian food at home in London anyway, since the boyfriend is Norwegian, but there are plenty of quite dubious things that I've so far avoided, and a few that I have tried and liked. A lot of Norwegian food is, to my palate, difficult but intriguing, like tørfisk, which is fish that is dried to resemble a potato crisp and eaten like a snack. Very fishy but oddly moreish.
I wouldn't say, though, that in any place I've lived I've encountered many local specialities that I find 'disgusting' - there are foods that I like and others that I dislike, as there are in every cuisine. Mostly I think moving around has expanded my palate in strange and wonderful ways, and I feel lucky to have been able to do it.
caley at 4:44PM on 05/05/08
Funny... I just wrote about that very same thing today.
You read my mind, Blue Iris! :-)
In a nutshell, yes. I absolutely think that where you live affects not only what you like to eat, but also your expectations of what others should eat, how food should be prepared and what is/isn't taboo to eat.
sheeats at 5:30PM on 05/05/08
I desperately miss NYC pizza and bagels.
I will never eat a crabcake (or a crab, for that matter). And I think Old Bay is gross.
charm city cupcake at 6:20PM on 05/05/08
Well...I remember moving to Cleveland thinking everything was too salty. My xbf said that when he moved to Hawaii (to be with me), he thought everything in Hawaii was bland. Food is still too salty here and the portions are ridiculous.
A lot of my food likes/dislikes comes from what doesn't suck in the area. I've given up hope on getting good Korean food and ramen/udon in Cleveland. Japanese food, well, only one restaurant makes REAL Japanese food. Vietnamese food isn't bad at all, but I have to deal with a very, very limited menu...doesn't stop me from eating pho several times a week!
Never really cared for Chinese food. Hated it in Hawaii. I'll eat it once in a while here.
I have gravitated toward food not in abundance in Hawaii like Lebanese, German, Polish, and Mexican, but in abundance here. And if they truly suck, I won't know. :P
I really don't care for eating seafood here. I eat it in copious amounts when I am in San Francisco and Hawaii though...for obvious reasons.
Cassaendra at 6:43PM on 05/05/08
My last "home" was on the Florida Gulf Coast. Oysters were a big deal there. Fried oysters, steamed oysters, raw oysters, baked oysters. Oysters for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I could never get into that one. I don't eat foods served in their own poop. Sorry to all you oyster lovers.
beth1 at 9:11PM on 05/05/08
I grew up in Small town Illinois, I've lived in, Tucson, and Clearwater, Florida and Philly, I now live in Denver. Let's just say I have a wandering palate.. There are some days when I'd knock the teeth out of an old lady for a decent cheesesteak. I haven't found a biscuit to love here- blame the altitude.There are some days I NEED (not want) conch fritters and a cuban, and most of the time I'm left wanting for a good mojito, sweet tea, and blackened grouper. (good) Seafood is pretty tough for me to find unless I wanna shell out big bucks. So here I am in Colorado-as far as you can spit from the ocean...oh well.... I'd probably miss the green chili if I left. But not much else food wise. sigh....
bisbee at 11:24PM on 05/05/08
@ beth1: Even if the poop tastes really good?
sheeats at 11:42PM on 05/05/08
@sheeats: NO!!!!!! poop is not a food group. can't do it. also, there's a major texture issue there, too (same one that goes for okra).
beth1 at 12:40AM on 05/06/08
I always wonder how many of my food preferences are genetic and how many are environmental. And how many are just me being me. I was raised in a Jewish New England home and now I am in Toronto and my in-laws, who live here, are Filipino and Korean. A little shell-shock. I want my scallops back! I love scallops, and they always suck here. I love all the Asian cuisines I've ever tried, so this is not an issue (except for the incredible amounts of offal in Filipino cuisine, not my fave). Toronto itself, well, I find poutine incredibly gross (who wants wet French fries? ew), and dude, butter does not go with everything. But there aren't a lot of "local" foods to contend with. Now, when I lived in Cincinnati in the 90's, forget it. If I never saw another piece of plain roast pork...
wellred at 7:54AM on 05/06/08
I'm from NY but did a 4 year stint in AZ. While I was there, I missed tons of things from back home. I'd bring bagels and Aunt Millie's spaghetti sauce back to AZ in my suitcase (do they even make Aunt Millie's anymore?) In AZ, I longed for fish fry and decent soft ice cream. And deli. Would have killed for a decent turkey sandwich on rye with russian, but all they had was that slimy processed turkey, super-soft rye bread, and no one had ever heard of russian dressing.
But I digress. While there, I learned to love spicy okra pickles from Texas. And I learned that "Best Foods" really is the same thing as Hellmans.
Also have found a few favorites on vacation that I have recreated at home- saimin from Hawaii, and guava paste with cream cheese from South Florida.
Kerosena at 9:09AM on 05/06/08
I agree with chiffonade, but I also think it's sort of a sign of patriotism to your own hometown. Everyone has to proud of what their city offers so they learn to love it!
Chew on That at 10:48AM on 05/06/08
I hail from London, England and I'd lived in Turkey, Israel, and now I live in the States - NJ. I've certainly acquired new favourites in different countries. Most notably, I credit Turkey for aubergines (I grew up an aubergine hater:-)) and ayran (yoghurt-based salty drink), Israel for cottage cheese (back home in London I wouldn't even look at cottage cheese. Then again, it might have something to do with the fact that Israeli dairy products are impossibly good and I now really miss Israeli cottage cheese and yoghurts), hummus and tahini sauce (I can't say schawarma, because it was love at first sight, er, bite, unlike hummus, which I absolutely detested in the beginning, and for the longest time I'd most likely been the only person in Israel to order schawarma without hummus and tahini sauce). When I came to the US, I've discovered that contrary to what I thought growing up, I do, in fact, like squashes - especially, butternut, spaghetti and courgettes. So yes, I've taken a fancy to foods I previously disliked when living in different places. Still, I wonder how many of these taste "changes" may be attributed to the fact that our tastes do change as we age...
brooke29 at 11:49AM on 05/06/08
@Wellred: See if you can't find Digby scallops (from Nova Scotia) in Toronto. They are among the best I've ever had.
Barbara Hanson at 4:08PM on 05/06/08
I'd say yes and no. My daughter is in an Asian immersion language program and that led me in a round-a-bout way to think about what people around the world eat for breakfast. I've never much liked eating breakfast food in general and especially not for breakfast. So it was nice to feel like I had permission to eat what I want in the morning rather than what the culture dictates.
However, there's a bunch of things I could never see myself consuming which kids grow up eating because that's what they get from the beginning (nori comes to mind here for me).
What's funny is my mom grew up in the south eating farina (cream of wheat) with butter, salt, soft boiled eggs but gave me bowls full with milk and sugar. I hated it and when I was able to get control over my own toppings made it with salt and butter (which amazed her) so I think there is some genetics at play there.
On the other hand, I grew up in a small town where the best food was drive-in food and Chinese (about the only "ethnic") food was horrid. It took being in a group of ten who'd helped us move to squeamishly end up at a Chinese restaurant in the big city, wary yet amazed at the quality and yumminess of the family style dishes that were passed to me.
And my first taste of Thai food (red curry with peas and bamboo shoots) when my daughter was six, felt like I'd finally found what I'd always been looking for. Later felt the same way about tomatillos.
But, through it all I still can't abide cilantro... except it apparently was in a curried carrot salad (with coconut milk -- best I can tell, a Sri Lankan dish) the other day which I found amazing in part because I'm not so keen on carrots either yet can hardly wait to have the salad again.
Sieseye at 4:09PM on 05/06/08
When I lived in an near Chicago, ethnic foods were easy -- both eating out and buying ingredients for home cooking.
Then I moved to Colorado, and finding an edible pizza was impossible, never mind anything ethnic. Now, after 10 years here, I've found some obscure ethnic stores and the selections at the regular grocery stores have improved.
But, things that I used to take for granted as easy take-out foods like gyros are still impossible, so I've had to learn how to make these things myself. Instead of gyros being fast food, it's a multiple-day process.
On the plus side, the closest farmer's market is about 5 minutes from my house, and there are several farmstands, on farm property. that are no more than 10 minutes away for the closest one. When I lived in Chicago, the closest farmer's market was probably a half-hour drive.
As far as aquiring a taste for local food, I've gotten to the point where I can choke down the local pizza if it's what's offered at a gathering. Sad, but true.
dbcurrie at 10:43PM on 05/06/08
absolutely. when i moved from NYC to FLA i found so many people, including restaurants, used miracle whip instead of good old mayonaise. plech, plech, plech. Couldn't stand the stuff. Salad dressing is not mayonaise. So, once when I went to a deli (my first mistake) when we were over at the beach and i asked for a roast beef and prevalone sandwich on a roll with mayo. 1st sandwich had mustard on it. 2nd sandwich had lettuce and tomato and yellow cheese. 3rd sandwich looked ok till i got back to our hotel room and found out it had miracle whip on it. I wanted to throw it across the room.... LOL
nightmoon at 1:08AM on 05/07/08
Yes, absolutely. I have lived in Germany for 3 years. It's almost impossible to be vegetarian here. Don't get me wrong, they do have a fantastic vegetarian restauraunt very close to where I live, but it's hard to get non-vegetarians to go there. At a "normaI" german restauraunt I can get pommes or noodles, but that gets old after a while. Fortunately, I can go to the commissary and get "American" groceries. I seriously miss going to any town and finding a diner or little hole-in-the-wall and eating.
Schnauzer_Mama at 7:35AM on 05/07/08
I've lived in California my whole life, but have family flung about the South and Northeast, and all of them complain that there is NO decent Mexican food outside of Southern California (with the possible exception of the Southwest, where I've sadly spent little time). After visiting said locales, I have to agree. Every time I'm at the taqueria down the way from my house having their freakin' amazing Chiles Rellenos, I imagine my poor grandmother in Maine, stuck w/another dang lobster roll while I eat her favorite dish. Sorry, Nana.
rosezilla at 2:44PM on 05/07/08
@huneybumper - I think we are neighbors before and now. I grew up in New England and now live in a culinary wasteland.
@wellred - I am in Cincinnati and I hear ya! It's like the only spices that get used are put into what I call "that gawd awful Cincinnati Style chili" which has no resemblance to any chili I have ever met before!
I like my New England food: seafood, boiled dinners, clam chowdah etc.
SayWhat at 3:28PM on 05/07/08
Say What I feel your pain! but make my chowder Rhode Island style(clear) ;)
huney_bumper at 11:21AM on 05/08/08
I live in RI now after years and years of living in CA and AZ. Things I thought were heinous when I first moved here? Hot Weiners and Coffee Milk. I still hate that Coffee Milk, but I've grown to like (and maybe even crave at 2 am) the hot weinahs.
The fish is "fresher" here, so the sushi tastes completely different than what I used to eat in AZ.
I really, really miss Mexican food though.
modysoul at 12:27PM on 05/08/08
omg! Autocrat coffee syrup and milk! I think you have to grow up with it to appreciate it ;) they even sell it mail order by boxes of 6 I still have 5 bottles unopened that I bought 3 yrs ago :S guess you really can't go back ;)
huney_bumper at 3:01PM on 05/08/08
Charm City Cupcake: Food is sorta like yard sales; what is junk to some are treasures to others. In Maryland, we caught our own crabs and steamed with Old Bay is one of the things I miss most. Okra rules. Mayo seems to be a despised condiment to many but I cannot imagine living without it.
In Florida, I cannot get fresh blue crabs but I do pig out on fried mullet and grits. In the upper Gulf, we catch our own tiny scallops and freshly shucked, they are so tasty. Oysters from Apalachicola are soooo good.
Yes, I do think where you live matters. The only things I have never been able to like are turtle steaks and calamari.
To each her/his own. Aren't you glad we don't cook for one another?
yayajac at 9:48PM on 05/08/08