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Junk Food vs Good Food

Whenever I go to the grocery store I always notice that buying things that are good for you, like healthy cuts of meat, fresh produce, fish and grains cost a hell of a lot more than junk food, like frozen food, processed sandwich stuff and other quick fix items. Has anyone else noticed this? Do any of you sometimes feel forced to integrate some of the cheap junk food into your daily diet?

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Yes and it is awful. It really ought to be the other way around, but the processed junk is cheaper than quality...sad.

I rarely feel like I have to buy processed instead of more natural, but I do often choose to buy a lower quality or less-preferred brand (not that I am a name-brand user/snob-type or anything).
For example, buying the bulk bag of russet potatoes when I wanted red, cheaper cuts of meat, or less meat period, more frozen bagged veggies than fresh etc.
Fruit is the one that gets me. I really like berries and by this time of year I am out of the ones I froze from picking last summer, yet the cost even of frozen is outrageous, never mind fresh. Natural 100% juices too.

I shop at Aldi and Wal-mart more now, especially for dry goods. I choose more items that take more prep (like dry beans) and make more breads as those are quite cheap to make at home.
On a few things I would rather go without/eat less of, than eat the discount processed version. (Butter vs. margarine/decent cheese vs. the plastic processed etc.)
I have found buying in bulk/larger packages is a bit cheaper, so long as I am willing to portion/freeze/pre-cook many items for later use.
We also simply eat a bit less overall, which is not all bad for me!
I scrimp with food more, and make more one-dish meals that have lots of filling items that aren't too costly. I try to use everything and cut down on waste to help too, like making stock from bits and pieces, and being creative with leftovers.

I feel worst for folks who can't/don't like to cook or have much time, as the processed foods win over in convenience if not much else, and will replace fresher foods when it comes right down to dollars for so many.

Absolutely. It's obscene. Your observation also sloshes over to "fast food." Ever see those breakfast sandwiches at McD's and other places advertised on TV? How do you fight off the temptation to drive through someplace and for $1, get a complete sandwich (no matter that it's full of crap)???

I know it's an unpopular subject but with the economy going further into the crapper, more people than ever will be shopping at Wal-Mart to keep a few dollars in their pockets. This isn't a crime and for the time being, it's a necessary practice. I'll be magnanimous and shop at mom and pop businesses after the economy stops reeling.

I will continue buy plain chix breast - or even better, a whole chix - vs. something like "pre-seasoned" or "already done" meat products. I can stretch those and create more meals that are better for me than resort to buying all that pre-fab stuff and putting all those chemicals into me. If I crave chemicals, I'll have a Diet Coke.

I really feel bad for anyone trying to feed a family right now, thankfully I'm just feeding two of us (and assorted animals) and I havent had alot of problems yet. But I also dont buy much in the way of meat and seldom if ever lunch meat of any kind. However before health concerns, many years ago I saw this trend, Somehow it has for a long time now, been cheaper to eat garbage food. unfortunately, good food and its preperation has been seen as something for people with alot of money and time, while "eating out" is seen by alot of people as being quicker, easier and cheaper. maybe its time to put home economics back in schools and make it mandatory, I dont mean learning to make an apron, I mean learning to make and stick to a budget, shop and prepare inexpensive good meals at home, and basic home repair. Its shameful the way our kids are growing up when they have to spend 15$ to have pizza hut make a bowl of pasta!

In answer to your question Do any of you sometimes feel forced to
integrate some of the cheap junk food into your daily diet?
I 'd have to say yes, and no. It depends on the day and the mood, the time available and where I want to direct my energies for the day. Some days might be about food, some days might be about other things.

Several quotes that refer to this topic (recently read in an essay on Peg Bracken by Laura Shapiro) have been lingering in my mind:

Bracken’s target was all the emotional baggage that women dragged into the kitchen with them whenever it was time to cook. Back in the 1940s, when she was starting married life, women who cooked badly and were horribly aware of it had guilt snapping at their heels from breakfast to dinner. To fail at cooking was to fail at femininity, not to mention love, motherhood and the honor of the family.

I put the last sentence in bold because I think this attitude is alive and well in 2008, well past 1940. :)

and by Peg herself:

Feeling like a wastrel because you bought a frozen chicken pie or a box of pie-crust mix? Quit beating yourself up about it. “Maybe you do your own wallpapering, while that lady down the block, who so virtuously rolls her own noodles, pays vast sums to paper hangers. Maybe you make your own clothes, or sell Christmas cards at home, or maybe you’re just plain cute to have around the house.”

It would be great to be perfect in all areas of life. And one of the most important things is food. But on those days when the junkfood reigns (for whatever reason: money, lack of time or even mere laziness or the lack of desire to take time to "really" cook good food), I for one refuse to feel guilty. As long as the time gained by taking the expedient is well spent doing something more good rather than more not-good, in some way, it's okay with me. :)

Here's the essay by LS .

P.S. I didn't mention "health" as you did, PumpkinBear and I should have.

If the "junk" food had ever affected the health of either myself or of my children then I would have more concern. It has not, though - and even though we indulge when we please, it has not made any of us fat, either.

So perhaps there is "junk food" and there is "junk food" or perhaps even more likely it affects different people in different ways (as do so many things in life!).

@Karen Resta - I don't think it's about making someone feel guilty for buying processed food. I don't think anybody should feel guilty buying junk food if it's something they make a conscious choice to buy, and not because of monetary restraints, but because they would rather buy it even it were more expensive.

I would guess that the point is, if I want to buy a frozen pie, I can do so with no problem (and I won't feel guilty about it), but if I want to buy fresh ingredients to make it myself, I may find that these fresh ingredients will be priced in such a way that I will not be able to afford the damn pie unless I buy it ready-made and frozen! Now, this is, I think, what PumpkinBear means by asking if we sometimes feel forced to integrate junk food in our daily diet.

I've integrated some junk. I now buy crummy white sandwich bread and sliced american cheese from the deli counter. I eat a grilled or cold cheese sanwich for breakfast or lunch several times a week. It's just super cheap. Not like I never ate grilled cheese sandwiches before, but as prices rise, they are on the menu much more frequently.

I only buy fresh fruit and veg that I know I will be able to use in multiple recipes- I can't stand seeing a half bunch of asparagus go bad in the fridge.

brooke29 - it may be that PumpkinBear was speaking solely of price-point.

But it could be that not everyone reads it as being solely about price-point whenever the term "processed food" is mentioned - in my experience those words bring up a plethora of emotions and overlapping thoughts.

So that's what I responded to. If I took the topic in an unwanted direction, my apologies - toss the post, toss the thoughts expressed in it (unless in some way they are useful to someone who read them, somewhere, who like me often aggrevatingly thinks outside the box of the topic). :)

Back to price point then and in answer: Yes. I do feel forced sometimes. Bad economy right now. Next case.

I really think this idea that processed junk is cheaper is generally a myth. Yes, they do get the larger markdowns (sponsored by mfgrs who want to lure in new consumers), and are much more likely to have coupons, but in my experience, it's much cheaper to buy healthier "real" food than "junk" (i.e., processed). The idea that generic brands are somehow crap is mostly a fallacy. They're mostly made by the same companies that make the name brand stuff. Sometimes you'll come across a plain wrap item that just sucks the big one, but overall, they're just fine.

Also, there's nothing wrong with using frozen vegetables. Some don't take to freezing well in terms of texture, but nutritionally it's been demonstrated that they are often better than fresh, since they go from field to freezer in less time than it takes to get "fresh" ones to your supermarket.

There's no way that a 6 oz. pkg of turkey lunchmeat for $3 ($8/lb) is a better deal than buying a fresh raw turkey breast that you cook yourself and slice for sandwiches ($2/lb). Let's not even discuss taste/quality.

Lean Cuisine chicken fettucine with broccoli is about $4 a serving. For less than $3 per serving, my similar recipe contains no fillers or preservatives, is an elementary dish (yes, even beginners can do it) and can be made in a flash. And it almost certainly tastes better.

I can go on and on.

Hyperbolic and anacdoral evidence notwithstanding, I suspect supply and demand has a lot to dom with it.

It depends on what you're comparing, I guess. I think, on average, I spend less on food that most people who buy a lot of junk. We don't drink soda (pop, cola, whatever) and I seldom buy chips or cookies, or much that's pre-made or boxed.

I can bake a whole lot of bread and it costs next to nothing per loaf when I buy the 25-lb bag of flour and buy the yeast in 1-lb packages. Same with baked desserts, unless we're talking about something with exotic ingredients. Okay, sometimes the boxed cake mixes are on sale for 99 cents each, but what's really in there? Flour, salt, leavening, flavoring? You still have to add eggs and oil. Even under a buck, I think it would be cheaper to make the cake from scratch, once again barring crazy expensive exotic ingredients.

The other day, I was looking at some boxed rice preparation at the store (I don't know why, but I was looking) and it was about 3 bucks for the box. I could buy a bag of rice for a lot less, and add my own flavorings. By the feel of that box, I'd bet there wasn't even a cup of rice in there.

I generally shop sales when it comes to meat, and there are still some decent prices. I bought pork roasts for 99 cents a pound recently. Buying whole chickens is still a good bargain, and I'd probably end up making soup from the carcass, which can be a few meals.

Some veggies are a little high, but I bought 5-lb bags of carrots for $1.99. Bell peppers were a buck each which is a little high, but buying red bells and roasting them is still cheaper than buying the ones in jars. When the farmer's market gets into full swing, there's one stand that does bulk deals -- anything you can fit into a bag for a set price. Sometimes five bucks, sometimes seven. You can jam a lot of veggies into a bag if you try, and it easily lasts me a week -- and I don't need to buy other veggies at the grocery store.

Fast-food places sound like they're going to be cheap, and they can be if you just go in and get the dollar sandwich, but how many people really do that? You get the sandwich, fries and drink and you've spent five or six bucks somehow. I'd rather have a slice of my homemade bread and some peanut butter. Or fruit and yogurt.

If you want to understand why it is cheaper to eat garbage than real food, check out Eric Schlosser's "Fast Food Nation" or Michael Pollan's "The Omnivore's Dilemma." Government subsidies make it artificially cheaper to grow corn (for corn syrup), which is present in a lot of junk food. This makes junk food and heavily-processed food ridiculously cheap, at the expense of farmers growing actual fruits and vegetables. (This is a simplification of just one of the factors involved, but it's a major one.) It is also why obesity and diabetes are more common among people with lower incomes. (As opposed to most of history, when the peasants were rail-thin and obesity was an indicator of wealth.)

Hey LoCo - What's your chicken fettucine with broccoli recipe, then? :)

I happen to be a very very busy person: I work 2 jobs and go to school part time. So, most times, I don't feel like coming home to make myself a proper dinner and get a lunch together for the next day. It's so much "easier" to grab something frozen or pre-packaged. However, I do see the flaw in the reasoning here, because I know I do have time (on the weekends, maybe) to actually do some healthy cooking for myself. I've just gotten into a trap of grabbing something premade.

I think a lot of it is that I was never really taught how to cook, and I still consider myself a miserable failure in the kitchen. It's less about money for me, and more about convenience and lack of cooking skillz.

@dbcurrie: Good point! Fast food hamburgers are often a dollar, but their "meals" often end up being four, five, or six. And it's not just at McDonalds. A greasy appetizer, indifferent entree, syrupy dessert, and watery "mock"tail at Chili's or Applebees can cost as much as or more than a similar dinner at a proper sit-down restaurant!

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