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Good Evening All - I just returned home from a long day, so I am pretty tired. BUT, I have spent more than a reasonable amount of hours the past couple of days trying to figure out whether or not I am a good fit for SE. The answer is probably not. When I joined in the revelry a couple of months ago, I honestly thought I would be participating in lively discussions regarding techniques and ingredients. Discovering new foods and products to improve my prowess in the kitchen. I thought the thread about "odd amounts" was an anomaly. However my desire for a steady diet of food conversation has lead me to spend countless hours reading through threads with off topic items, personal agendas and personal attacks over an individual's personal opinion. No one embraces a high spirited debate more than I do, and I think most of it is quite humorous, but my fun meter has peaked. I want to enjoy and learn, not defend and debase. I guess I am all set. Thank you one and all for welcoming me to begin with and acknowledging my input. That means something. All the Best!! No responses please. Think of this as a "thank you" note. I am logging off as soon as I post this.
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21 Comments:
crazyspice: good luck in your search for all things food that will serve your needs.
NorthernBBQer at 7:15AM on 04/11/08
don't let the perverbial door hit you in the ass
jasonbrink at 7:45AM on 04/11/08
I love it when people flounce. Why not just stop reading?
modysoul at 7:58AM on 04/11/08
@jasonbrink
If you're going to try to be edgy or witty, at least spell it correctly: it proverbial.
NorthernBBQer at 9:28AM on 04/11/08
The oddest part, is other than the conversations about certain Food Networks celebs...and their relevance...I see very little personal attacks on this site...and alot of talk about food!
I have often thought of thanking everyone for a place where I can feel free to be myself and indulge my food obsession without feeling odd!
So thank you SE community....because I love being here!
mepolo at 9:37AM on 04/11/08
@Crazyspice; SE isn't an all-in or all-out experience, it's perfectly OK if you just come by here once in a while to see what has been happening, you really don't need to make it your permanent home. As far as personal attacks and personal agendas, I think that you're going to find some of those no matter where you go.
jonfoxx at 9:46AM on 04/11/08
@jonfoxx; Boy you said it! I also visit CHOW every so often and sometimes a blog or post turns into a real bitchfest!!!
RichardCrystal at 10:02AM on 04/11/08
Maybe instead of complaining about Crazy's decision, we should take this as a sign to keep the comments a bit less personal and more about food. No one knows what is going through someone else's head or where they are in their life. What would set off one person may not even register for someone else. I personally will miss Crazy's comments but I respect her decision. Now i'm going to go drool over food porn ;)
huney_bumper at 10:11AM on 04/11/08
I am so offended I am going to put more froth in my espresso. Drama!!!
Forums are not always warm and touchy. The internet is full of EEK people.Your experience may vary.
JerzeeTomato at 10:13AM on 04/11/08
@NorthernBBQer because you pointed out my early morning spelling error, I am now going to quit.
jasonbrink at 10:35AM on 04/11/08
I read this site every day, every day since the day it started...and I really don't agree with you. I geuss there are food snobs...and then there are food snobs.
Lilartist at 11:10AM on 04/11/08
@jasonbrink: don't let the perverbial door hit you in the ass ;-)
NorthernBBQer at 11:29AM on 04/11/08
That's kind of proverted, you guys.
Kerosena at 11:31AM on 04/11/08
I'd prefer to take a little offense than to have to tiptoe around on an internet forum, of all places. Then again, I speak from the perspective of someone who has actually been banned from a popular baking forum for being "nasty." (And I tried a lot harder to kiss up there than I do here.)
I think the SE folk also do a decent job of stepping in when things truly start to get personal (consider past threads about Wal-Mart and SL).
renzata at 12:11PM on 04/11/08
@NorthernBBQer: I like the way you think, as well as the way huney-bumper thinks. Maybe jasonbrink can't help being who he is-- an ass. Personally, I will miss crazyspice. I don't think she is a food snob at all. She simply was looking for a FOOD blog, as most of us were, and enjoyed the 'good' times, but most of us don't enjoy coming home after a long work day (or whatever), going to their favorite place to unwind, and find people who are behaving like mean spirited children. These are the same people who were friendly the day before, and are now not only 'attacking' SL, but each other! Makes you wonder. If you say the wrong thing and inadvertently offend someone, will you be next? I understand forums are not always warm and touchy, and I enjoy a good debate too, but sometimes those debates get out of hand and become personal attacks--- all because of opinions, and because the most highly opinionated people have to be RIGHT, or they get their tail in a knot. I'd much rather be happy than right ALL the time, but that's just me.
Sorry, Jason. Insensitive of me to presume you're an ass. You probably are a really caring guy, but it appears that someone peed in your cornflakes this morning, and made you a bit cranky.
JudyV
JudyV at 12:32PM on 04/11/08
@JudyV - Wow... take it easy. My comment was sarcasm, NorthernBBQer got it (nice reply btw BBQ). You were right when you said, “…are now not only 'attacking' SL, but each other! Makes you wonder. If you say the wrong thing and inadvertently offend someone, will you be next?”
Maybe if I plan to “joke” or include “sarcasm” I’ll need to title my posts as such.
Stay happy!
jasonbrink at 12:39PM on 04/11/08
O.K....I had to go back & read the SL thread, because honestly, I don't care for her, so I didn't even read the thread. Do you know what that thread reminded me of? A very lively dinner conversation when my FAMILY all gets together.
I don't know of a single family that is peace, love & harmony every time they get together, unless they share some very potent herbs with each other before dinner....and that's what all of us here at SE remind me of....a big, noisy, happy, hungry family. We may debate over life & food, but in the end, we're all still friends.
If you see there is a thread you think might be too fiery for you on a particular day....just don't read it! There is plenty of positive around here to make up for a negative thread or two.
I'm with Jason...stay happy!
mepolo at 1:03PM on 04/11/08
As an admin on a few other boards, and a participant and/or lurker on several others, I must say that participants on the SE talk forums are far and away the best-behaved and most effective self-moderators I've ever encountered. Internet forums being anonymous lend themselves to bad manners, much the way a false sense of anonymity in a car lends itself to vehicular rudeness and road rage. Also, because it's so difficult to properly inflect tone and intent in a written message, I've noticed that some of the most "inflammatory" posts here seem actually to have been misconveyed and/or misread. For the most part, any "ugliness" that shows up on this site is (IMO) fairly mild, and not much different than the type you're likely to find in a heated face-to-face debate among friends.
Personally, I've never viewed this site as "serious" in terms of the technical aspects of cooking, etc. It's always struck me as a community for food-minded people to interact with others who share their interest (passion?). It's a place for general food culture, in my mind. That's what makes it special. People who aren't into food in the way the SEers are, just don't get the jokes, the obsessions, the worries, etc. Not that there isn't plenty of room for "serious" discussion, too. There is. It's a nice balance.
I like it here. I like the community members. Don't change.
LoCo at 1:37PM on 04/11/08
@mepolo--you're right, many of the discussions here remind me of my family's conversations; totally different views, some conservative, some liberal, some jerky, some trying to smooth things over, some stirring of the pot, some too personal (like the time I called my cousin's husband an "a$$#ole" while he was trying to quit smoking--yikes!). But in the end everyone stays friends.
I am sad to see crazyspice go because she was always there with a quick response or a funny observation/comment. Hopefully her computer will find its way back to SE.
Staying happy and happy to be staying.
wookie at 1:39PM on 04/11/08
Why can't we just agree to disagree sometimes, and not take things so personally?
DaveFaris at 4:58PM on 04/11/08
@DaveFaris--exactly. How much fun would any topic be if all agreed or said the same things? It would be nice for about 5 minutes, but oh so boring.
wookie at 5:19PM on 04/11/08