Grade School Grub
The question about Zippy Dogs (which sadly, I have not experienced) got me thinking. What is the best school cafeteria dish you remember from your past? For me, it was these incredibly buttery, totally un-crumbly, corn muffins from grade school. From high school I fondly remember the school cafeteria's version of pizza. It really wasn't like pizza at all... more like really flat biscuit dough topped with a ground beef/tomatoe sauce mixture and lots of cheddar cheese. What dish do you still lust after from your school days?
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27 Comments:
I could have driven railroad spikes with my H.S. pizza, we had some kind of salad dressing between the color of catalina and americanized "french" We would put it on darned near everything the cafeteria served.... at the time we thought it to be a great taste enhancer... perhaps it was a better alternative to the actual taste of the food.
Pavlov at 12:19PM on 03/14/08
I am still trying to find something that comes close to the brownies that I had in elementary school. They weren't fudgy, they were blonde and nutty and chewy and topped with a layer of chocolate icing. They were soooooo good.
wookie at 12:21PM on 03/14/08
I remember they had the best bagels and cream cheese at my school. A break in the middle of second period would be the most exciting time of the day when they had these bagels! The line was out the cafeteria room door.
Hillary
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Chew on That at 12:24PM on 03/14/08
My school cafeteria was actually pretty good. I still miss their lasagna. They served mozzarella sticks with dipping sauce at snack time (10am)! Pizza day was also popular. For dessert they had a great chocolate mousse pie and apple and cherry turnovers that left powdered sugar all over your clothes. There were lots of healthy options too: salad bar, made-to-order sandwiches, stir-fry with brown rice, chicken, and vegetables... not that I ever went for the healthy stuff :)
chocolate/olive
Vegetarianka at 12:37PM on 03/14/08
I absolutely LOVED my high school caf's chuckwagon sandwiches. I doubt I could eat one now - in fact, they sell them prepackaged at my local grocery and I've stared at them in morbid fascination, but cannot bring myself to buy one.
The sandwich was comprised of a hotdog bun with a slice cheap cooked ham, topped with a slice of cheap salami, and a slice of processed cheese. This was microwaved and the preferred serving style had it slathered in mustard.
eeekkkkkk....... I could inhale two of these after eating my home brought lunch EASILY. Ah to have that metabolism back again!
Maureen at 1:19PM on 03/14/08
I never heard of a zippy dog either. K-8 Catholic elementary school. Ate lunch at desk - brought from home. Mom was amazing and creative. We had hot soup in thermos, sometimes with a hot dog to pull out & put on roll, already condimented (yes, I coined another word!). You could buy milk that was left outside in the middle of the night, until lunch time. Could be frozen or warm, but almost never just right. You had to have a note from home for chocolate milk and I must have forged mine - mom would have never signed it. Yikes! I just couldn't drink that white milk. Still can't.
9-12 Cafeteria! School was pretty much 1/3 Italian, 1/3 Polish, 1/3 Irish. So were the cooks. The Italian and Polish dishes were authentic and so delicious. I brought my lunch most days, but sometimes couldn't resist the unbelievable odors emanating from the kitchen. I had to use my own money, but it was worth it. I was really lucky because I got as good or even better at home, too.
PerkyMac at 1:28PM on 03/14/08
OMG! Elizabeth I remember that exact same pizza! It was very bizzare. I guess it had to have something from all the major food groups. So tomato sauce could pass for a vegetable back then, after all. Grilled cheese and that cheap tomato soup. Awful fish sticks. But what I wish I could find is the ice cream bar they used to sell. It was called a Cho-Cho Bar. It was malted ice cream dipped in chocolate and something crunchy. I must be older than most of you because when I was in grade school the microwave was not yet invented!!
RichardCrystal at 1:35PM on 03/14/08
We used to get this stuff called " Johnny Marzetti" that was a casserole of noodles, ground beef, peas, and tomato sauce. It looked pretty gross, but I loved it! I was also one of the only fans of the sticky gooey burnt on the edges macaroni and cheese. And to this day sometimes I crave the tomato soup with ground bolgna sandwich "thing" dipped right in it.
aungeinphx at 1:45PM on 03/14/08
This may sound horrid and deranged, but I did love the grilled white bread, cheese-substance sandwiches made in the cafeteria of the US elementary school I attended. They were so... different to the the whole-grain bread, vaguely-salty-peanut-butter and jelly sandwiches that were inevitably to be found in my little brown bag.
mongoose at 2:15PM on 03/14/08
aungeinphx -- Johnny Mazetti!!??? My partner's mom used to make this many years ago. I thought that it was something that she or one of her neighbors invented!! I don't believe that someone else knows what it is!!!! I had never heard of it until she made it for dinner one night like in 1980.
It was pretty good, actually!!
RichardCrystal at 2:55PM on 03/14/08
I've taken a few grade school lunch dishes into my adult life. Macaroni in meat sauce, ham and cheese in foil and of course, grilled cheese made in the oven, not a pan, for a crispy crunchy texture. We used to fear the shepherds pie, but I'm trying a version this week from Marco Pierre White that I hope will not bring back nightmares...
jonfoxx at 3:54PM on 03/14/08
Richard and aung - My Mom even made JM for special occasions. Of course hers must have been the fancy version because it was called, John Mazetti. Never, never Johnny!
elizabethw at 3:54PM on 03/14/08
Ha ha! We were kids, hence the "Johnny". This was early '70s grade school fair, so I guess they tried to make it more appealing by giving it a catchy name. I was perusing an older cookbook I found ( can't remember which one) and saw it in there- I was pretty amazed. I thought they just made it up. And now that others have heard of it, that's great! I'm going to have to whip up a batch this weekend!
aungeinphx at 4:07PM on 03/14/08
Lets see....when I was living in Tennessee (K-7), the fried okra was awesome. We also had a forward thinking elementary school (this was about 20 years ago) and had one line that alternated between a baked potato/salad bar and a taco bar. I also had a thing for the chicken strips and biscuits with honey. I heart the south.
I moved to Cincy for 7th - 10th and their food was horrible. Plus, to cook even less, Tuesdays they brought in Spooner's Pizza, served with french fries, Wednesdays they brought in Taco Bell (chilitoes, burritoes, and those cinnamon churro things), and Thursdays they brought in McDonald's hamburgers and cheeseburgers served with, you guessed it, fries. They also offered fried chicken and cheese sandwiches, nachos, little debbies, ice cream, soda, and more fries. GAG! No wonder I gained 5 lbs in high school one year!
jcrisco at 4:20PM on 03/14/08
I rarely, if ever, ate the cafeteria food (provided the school I went to at the time had one--went to like, 6 different schools). I generally took soup or something in a thermos. The school food was just too bad. Everything was packaged. I want the school food you guys are talking about (not the Taco Hell and McD's, sorry). Have you ever thought about compiling a book of updated, more healthy versions of these dishes?
beth1 at 4:34PM on 03/14/08
There was no cafeteria in my grade school. Lunch came from home in metal lunchbox with a thermos. Remember those? There was a wire holder to keep the thermos from rolling onto the sandwich. PB&J, PB&fluff, and if we were really lucky, bologna & cheese! It was always milk in the thermos too. We would get a piece of fruit and a cupcake or a couple of cookies. High school brought a new world of food! Pretend pizza, pretend tacos, pretend mystery meat sandwiches and the dreaded Spam! I needed therapy after that! I brought my lunch, or we would sneak out and go to the local sub shop.
crazyspice at 5:15PM on 03/14/08
I mostly had to bring lunch to school when I was a kid as I wasn't allowed to eat meat and most processed foods. When I was a teenager I rebelled and reveled in the joys of McDonalds, etc. That said, I'd toss my brown bag lunch in a second when they had english muffin pizzas. They were made with some kind of orange processed cheese and tomato sauce and I loved them. And the vegetable lo mein which which was just delicious. Oh and the richest, creamiest chocolate pudding I've ever eaten with Cool Whip. Heaven. I am fully aware that my love of the pizza and pudding were in direct response to the whole grain veggie lockdown at home. But it didn't make them any less wonderful at the time.
chisai at 6:31PM on 03/14/08
@aungeinphx, Elizabeth, Richard - Wow, we had this casserole too! Never heard of others who knew about it. We didn't have peas though, it was green peppers and mushrooms..peas might be better!
I also had to brown bag it most days, but twice a week a mom was there that made, from scratch, the most wonderful, buttery, creamy mashed potatoes, perfectly whipped and seasoned and now and then made gravy to go with it. I either added it on to my lunch or sometimes chucked the lunch and bought two servings of the mash. Sorry Mom! She also did a dessert of crumbled oreos, cool whip and chocolate pudding, layered one over the other. Yum.
radley24 at 7:09PM on 03/14/08
Grade school food was ranged from fair to terrible. The one thing I loved, because I had never seen it or heard of it before, was ravioli. Of course, it was Chef BoyArDee from a can, but it seemed pretty exotic to me. The only Italian-ish food I'd ever eaten was pizza, my mother's version of spaghetti, and Italian sausage.
The burgers in grade school were strange. They didn't taste like beef at all. Probably a lot of filler. Meatloaf actually had meat, though. So that wasn't too bad.
What I remember were some odd food combinations. Like spaghetti with meat sauce, mashed potatoes, and corn.
And I always had chocolate milk, because the white milk always tasted funny to me.
In high school, I went through the "cold lunch" line, which included things like sandwiches, jello, twinkies, ice cream....If I was hungry, I invariably got the bologna sandwich on while bread, which always had a thick glob of butter in the middle.
dbcurrie at 7:09PM on 03/14/08
OT...I know, but...Can someone explain the butter on a sandwich to me? I've never seen this and I grew up moving all over the place.....Indiana, Tennessee, Ohio, North Carolina......The first I heard of it was when my Brit husband wanted me to make him a bacon buttie (bacon and butter on white bread)???
jcrisco at 9:51PM on 03/14/08
@jcrisco..........my mother put butter on every sandwich she made, except those with peanut butter........I think? I thought it was a Canadian thing, but on some thread, discovered that it was extremely common everywhere. I could understand if it was something like tuna salad or egg salad, if the purpose was to keep the bread from getting soggy, but it was slathered on both slices of bread before other condiments like mustard or mayo. When people (and my mother) started using margarine, I couldn't eat the sandwich. My mother couldn't fool me. When I was old enough to make my own, I eliminated the butter altogether.
PerkyMac at 10:05PM on 03/14/08
my high school used to sell really delicious chocolate chip cookies and for some reason, i loved their meat loaf sandwiches {something i would be seriously afraid to eat now}.
cybercita at 10:44PM on 03/14/08
I live and grew up in Michigan and my mom put butter (actually margaine!) on every sandwich she ever made us. She was also born and raised here, but none of my friends had their sandwiches buttered and they looked at me like I was crazy. My Dad was born and raised in Ontario, Canada and I too thought it was a Canadian thing, but my mom said that no, her family did it also. My husband HATES the thought of it. Especially when my mom butters a pb&j sandwich! It was normal to me.
OT - sorry, does anyone in the SE family think it is awful to salt and/or pepper watermelon, cantaloupe and things like crudite (celery, cucumber slices, bell peppers, etc.? My husband insists I am a crazy person for doing this.
radley24 at 11:43PM on 03/14/08
My family never put butter on sandwiches, it was just the high school, and I thought it was weird. It would have been less weird if the butter was actually spread around better, but it tended to be a big blob in the center that was sort of smeared.
When I was a little kid, I insisted that my mother put butter on my peanut butter sandwiches, because there was butter in the name, so I thought it had to be there. I wasn't the taste, it was a grammar thing.
dbcurrie at 11:53PM on 03/14/08
@radley24.......if s&p on fruit & veggies is weird, then count me in that club. I've never put either on watermelon, but I don't know why not. I always salt cantaloupe and pepper on strawberries brings out more flavor, too. Crudite cries for them........tell him to just listen really hard, or even better, taste! I can't think of too many foods that aren't improved with salt, pepper or both.
PerkyMac at 12:20AM on 03/15/08
jcrisco, I've moved about quite a bit, mostly in Europe, and it seems to me that buttering the bread for sandwiches has Northern European origins; I haven't come across the practice in most parts of Italy, but it is fairly routine in some cities in the north of Italy, and in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and Denmark.
I'm guessing that in the US, you'll find people buttering their sandwich bread wherever the bulk of cultural influences were originally Northern European. If any of you actually know what the truth of this is, I'd REALLY like to know, because I've wondered about it myself.
mongoose at 6:06AM on 03/15/08
@radley24. I always salt my watermelon. It is so much tastier than not. Having eaten both ways, I honestly don't see why everybody doesn't. And I love pepper on berries and melon, but not salt. Crudite? Salt, sometimes pepper.
chisai at 7:14AM on 03/15/08