Food Writing/Paula Dean
I am a recent culinary school graduate and I am looking to combine two of my passions: Food and Writing. I'm willing to do anything in the field. The problem is I'm not really sure where to start... resturant reveiws, blogging, etc. Any tips, advice, or direction that anyone could provide as to how to get my foot in the door would be greatly appreciated. A big thank you to anyone who responds!
I also wanted to say how WONDERFUL the 'Paula Dean is trying to kill us' articles are. My girlfriend knows of my hatred for this she-devil of the food industry and shared the glory of these articles with me. As a chef it really, really offends me that people put her on such a big pedestal (even though she needs a BIG pedestal... probabaly all those fried butter balls). I've been to Savannah twice and I'm amazed at the amount of people that flock to 'the Lady and Sons'. I peered in through the window and saw a buffet. A buffet. This woman is a culinary tyrant and her resturant has a buffet. Her merchandise is plastered all over Savannah. They even have Paula Dean trolley tours. It's sad really, that a wonderful town like Savannah, that is full of great independant resturants, is being overtaken by the smelly, cholesterol ridden, cash cow (pun intended) that is Paula Dean. Thanks for bringing some attention to something that people need to realize: Paula Dean is not that great, she's not even good: She is indeed trying to kill us.
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You may want to try going to a great wealth of knowledge on both subjects food and writing in the name Michael Ruhlman. He has a contact button on his site ruhlman.com. He has always been forthcoming with answers to questions I have had and I'm not a writer. He has written several books on chefs, culinary school and cooking itself including a cookbook for Thomas Keller and "The French Laundry". He would be a great place for advice I would think... I have first hand knowledge from his Skills Instructor at the CIA that Mr. Ruhlman's ability to disseminate information on his knowlege of cooking borders on being "saintlike". Hope that helps.
Oh yes, and I'm right there with you on miss Paula. I have yet to see a favorable review of her establishment.
Pavlov at 1:19AM on 03/14/08
Blogging is a great, free way to get your writing out there. If you are up for it, get involved with some of the events (try Ismyblogburning for listings) to get active traffic on your site.
It's becoming a pet peeve of mine, and I'll mention it here only because of your stated interest in food writing/journalism: it's Deen, not Dean. As far as my opinion about her, I am surprised to enjoy her more as a tv personality (she drove me crazy at first). I don't really consider her much one way or the other as a cook--much less restaurateur--since she doesn't seem interested in the same food that I am.
I haven't spent a lot of time on it, but I know that egullet has a huge active membership base of food writers and professionals at all levels.
renzata at 2:10AM on 03/14/08
I have a huge interest in food and I went to school for journalism. I'm currently a freelance writer. My best advice to you is to build up your portfolio. As a new freelance writer you're going to have to take whatever feelancing gigs come your way. If you're fortunate, as I have been, they often ask you what your area of interest is. I always make it clear that I love writing food-related articles. Once you have published work either in print or online, then you can start applying to culinary publications. Also, I don't know what state you live in, but here in L.A. there's obviously the Los Angeles Times, but there's also countless smaller newspapers that cover smaller areas. One in particular, which I did an internship for, accepts querie letters from new freelance writers, especially when it comes to restaurant reviews because during slow weeks, they run them as filler. You should look into speaking to the features editor at various small, daily or weekly newspapers in your area. They are usually willing to accept freelance pieces from new or inexperienced writers as long as you're willing to be edited fiercely and have strong writing chops. Good luck!
PumpkinBear at 3:32AM on 03/14/08
I really tried to bite my tongue but...taking potshots at someone's weight and spelling her name wrong don't seem to be the best way to get your foot in the door. 'Big pedestal' and 'cash cow' are just cheap shots.
I may be wrong, but I think the posts on Serious Eats about Paula Deen trying to kill us are NOT meant to be mean-spirited, as yours clearly are. I'm not a Paula Deen fan, don't watch her show, don't eat her food but am just shocked at the hatefulness of the commentary. Maybe I'm out of step in thinking so, but so be it.
MelsDiner at 7:31AM on 03/14/08
MelsDiner: You're right, and thanks for picking up on that. The Paula Deen posts aren't (I hope) taken as mean-spirited -- more an "Omigod! Look at what she came up with now!" spirit. I've always had an aversion to the snarky, mean-spirited potshots that you so often see on blogs, and when I founded Slice and A Hamburger Today, I purposely avoided that type of writing; later, when I joined Serious Eats as managing editor, I tried to impress on the staff and our writers the importance of keeping things out of the gutter and above the belt.
As far as breaking in to food writing, a blog is not only a great place to try out your voice, it's almost essential these days, as a recent piece on OJR.org points out: How to Keep Your Job in Journalism. Though it's titled "How to Keep Your Job," it's got some good advice in there for anyone looking to get a job in the field. An assigning editor is going to want to see clips or writing samples, and a blog is a great organizational tool to archive these items.
@renzata: Thanks for the typo correx. It's a pet peeve of mine, too. That and Rachel Ray when it should be Rachael.
Adam Kuban at 7:55AM on 03/14/08
You mentioned that you are a chef, SheikBLoco - when you described what you called your "hatred of this she-devil of the food industry".
Can you share where it is that you are a chef?
Karen Resta at 8:14AM on 03/14/08
First you have to catch people's attention so they'll read your work, and then hopefully think about it and comment on it.
You did that!
srhcb at 8:42AM on 03/14/08
Far and away the best recipe involving Paul Dean
jasonbrink at 9:39AM on 03/14/08
I've said it before and I'll say it again! Paula Deen does not do "southern cooking". She does fast and easy cooking. The handful of people I know who have visited her buffet have all said it was awful. From what I've seen her methods are more assembling ingredients than anything else. I love the south, I love Savannah and I love real southern cooking (what ever happened to Nathalie Dupree?) but I can not stand that syrupy-fake accent she lays on like mayonnaise. It's like a fingernail on a black board; "Frumah kitchn to yerrrrrrrz."
RichardCrystal at 9:49AM on 03/14/08
Love or hate Paula, disparaging comments about her size aren't warranted. Sure, her accent is annoying, her food may be unhealthy, but please, be respectful - body-shaming of anyone, large or small, shouldn't happen here.
producestories at 10:06AM on 03/14/08
Well said, producestories. Thanks.
Adam Kuban at 10:08AM on 03/14/08
Hey there -
I'm a food editor at a women's magazine. The types of writing you're talking about -- restaurant reviews vs. blogging, for example -- are very different and call for very different skills. It will help you a great deal if you can narrow down your interests a little bit -- you can write or edit recipes for magazines, edit or copy edit recipes for book publishers or packaged goods companies (Kraft or General Mills, for example), do food writing and recipe development for newspapers, write restaurant reviews -- there are tons of opportunities for someone with your background. But to go from food writing to restaurant reviewing, for example, is not so easy. So if you can pick a general area or two that are of the most interest and focus on developing those, I think that will make it easier for you.
Blogging is a great way to start because you can do it on your own terms, pick your own subjects, etc. Then you can use your blog as examples of your work to show potential employers. And if you've built up a following on your blog, all the better.
Best of luck to you!!
CookiePie at 10:13AM on 03/14/08
I love Miss Paula. Her food isn't meant for everyday, however. I've made several of her dishes and was quite pleased with them for the most part. I do admit that I prefer her on "Paula's Home Cooking", where she's the sweet, lovable funny mama, than I do on "Paula's Party", where she can be somewhat OTT and vulgar.
And I'd eat her vittles before SL or RR anyday.
BITTER at 10:13AM on 03/14/08
P.S. The poster who started this thread might want to go to Television Without Pity. They have a forum dedicated to the Food Network, and have a no-mercy approach to criticizing celeb chefs.
BITTER at 10:14AM on 03/14/08
CookiePie: Great advice. Thanks for breaking down the different functions and routes one could take to a food-writing career.
Adam Kuban at 10:50AM on 03/14/08
Network, network, network. The best writing jobs I've had came from friends who were editors at magazines.
hereandthe at 11:30AM on 03/14/08
"She is indeed trying to kill us" - Jeez, bold statement! If she's trying to kill "us", wouldn't she be "killing" herself in the process? She seems as happy as a bee!
But anyway, a food blog would definitely be a great place to start. If you eventually write for a magazine or need to work your way up, you'll be creating a whole blog's worth of writing samples in the meantime!
Hillary
Chew on That
Chew on That at 11:33AM on 03/14/08
I've always been so amazed at the comment 'Paula Dean is trying to kill us'. I have never seen one TV chef that forced someone to use their recipes. The way some people act is that they've had a gun put to their head and was forced to eat the food. So glad that I was given the intelligence to look at a recipe and decided by the ingredients whether I wanna use it or not!
And guy if that's an example of your writing you might just want to hang it up!!!
LaDeputy at 12:02AM on 03/15/08
I tend to lurk here and let the house culinary expert (my wife) do the talking from a position of knowledge about the various topics of cooking addressed at Serious Eats; however, as someone who has been paid to write and has been published (and I bring this up not to brag, but rather because it's important to present your qualifications before jumping to conclusions), I found myself unable to pass on this post without commenting.
Writing is serious business. These days, the ease in which one can create a blog leads one to believe that the minute her blog "goes live," he is a writer. And he is; however the difference between being a writer and being a writer whose work is publishable is a huge one. While you might think that you have to be literate to have your work published, it is not always the case. (I've worked on manuscripts written by the wife of a Pulitzer Prize-winning author that bordered on unreadable due to the frequency of typos and grammatical nightmares -- and her books sell well. But she has two huge advantages -- a husband who is well-respected in the business and great editors (myself NOT included) who made her what she is today.
Assuming that you are not fortunate enough to have such a connection, you should concentrate on your writing and make certain that it is as strong as possible. Based on your initial post, it's clear that you'd benefit from a solid review of the basic tenets of grammar and sentence structure. Take a writing course. Then take an editing course. All the while, work on accepting constructive criticism (which might be the most challenging part of the process). It hurts to hear that your writing stinks. (Not saying that yours necessarily does; just speaking from experience. I’ve taken many writing and editing courses over the years.)
Another aspect that will likely determine whether you are a success or you are a failure is whether you are able to maintain the balance between your ego and your actual talent. While it’s important to have a healthy level of beli”ef in your talents, the line between talent and delusion is a fine one. You can call yourself a “chef.” You can call yourself a “writer.” But are you really a chef? Do you run a restaurant?
Ruhlman recently wrote a blog entry about the terminology in which he said, “Even I am called a chef, and worse, celebrity chef, in enough publications to be sufficiently alarmed by the muddy waters here. I am not a chef, though I have cooked for money and cooking remains part of my work. The sinister Bourdain is a writer and television host and producer, not a chef, though he once was. Rachael Ray was never a chef and never pretended to be.” And here’s someone who could call himself “chef” without anyone blinking an eye, and yet, he doesn’t.
Next, it’s crucial that you find your voice and ensure that said voice is both original and compelling. I read your “Paula Dean is trying to kill us” rant and was both underwhelmed by your argument and unimpressed with your writing. Your arguments, such as they were, were not well thought out, and not supported by many facts. You made your point in the first sentence and spent the next several hundred words both repeating yourself and weakening your argument by writing at a level that I would not expect from a bad stand-up comedian, let alone a “chef” educated in the world of food.
The “I’ve been to Savannah twice…” setup to the paragraph about which I’ll soon comment reminds me of Homer Simpson’s comment, “You know what I like about you English? Octopussy. I must have seen that movie… twice!” When I read that sentence, I hoped you’d follow with a stronger argument.
Instead, you wrote, “I'm amazed at the amount of people that flock to 'the Lady and Sons'. I peered in through the window and saw a buffet. A buffet. This woman is a culinary tyrant and her resturant has a buffet.” I’ll ignore the typos and grammatical issues for a moment and focus on your argument, which was weak. You claim that you’re shocked that people flock to her restaurant, not because the food is inedible, but because she is “a culinary tyrant and… has a buffet.”
The question that immediately came to mind was “how does a ‘chef’ criticize a chef (or at least a woman who was a chef for a long time when she ran her kitchen) without tasting going in and TASTING HER FOOD? In addition, one of my favorite restaurants in New York City, Churrascaria Plataforma (a top-rated Brazilian rodizio) has a large buffet in the middle of the floor on which you’ll find incredible sushi, terrific salads, and other gourmet hot and cold entrees. Accordingly, anyone who has had a similar experience to mine with certain buffets will read that sentence and, if you’re lucky, tune your piece out. (If you’re unfortunate, they’ll consider you a hack.)
Research is crucial when writing non-fiction. Paula Deen (spelling counts when you’re attacking someone) does not have a chain of restaurants in Savannah (which would make her one of the “independant” restaurants you claim she is overtaking.) It seems to me that Paula’s presence in Savannah likely helps her fellow restaurateurs since most visitors are likely not to eat every meal at her restaurant. People who never would have visited Savannah were it not for The Lady and Sons and Uncle Bubba’s Oyster House are exposed to other eateries in town.
Understand that I’m not defending Deen or her cooking (I’m lactose intolerant and while I’m amused by her show, I could never eat the majority of the items she cooks; however, I can watch her show and be inspired to make dishes that will have similar flavor combinations without using all of the butter and sugar that she does), after having read your piece, which manages to be bitter, vindictive, puerile, and (painfully) humorless at the same time, I’m more likely to defend Paula Deen against what feels like an attack of her character, especially when said attack uses (and I say this generously) anecdotal evidence to “prove” its point.
When Ruhlman and Bourdain write a blog post in which they brutalize their fellow “chefs,” they do so with both wit and elegance, and do so in such a way in which it is clear that they are basing their opinions on fact.
Understand that I don’t consider myself an expert on either cooking or writing; however, I’ve been writing professionally for more than 15 years and cut my teeth as an editor at my college newspaper before that for four years. I’ve also edited more than 100 books, both fiction and non fiction, and currently edit a major music Web site. I’ve achieved what I have because I’ve written more than two million words over the years for various publications and am fortunate to have been wise enough to listen to others when they criticized my work.
I’m sure that, with time, you’ll achieve success. For now, keep writing and listening to the criticism of people in whom you trust. And for the love of god, get to a bookstore and purchase a copy of Strunk and White’s The Elements of Style. :)
royny23 at 12:18AM on 03/15/08
Wow. There are so many similarities in cooking and writing. The main one being that anyone, who does it regularly, thinks they’re good at it. But what really makes me love both is the response that it gets from people. Good, bad, neutral- it doesn’t really matter, the point is there is always some sort of emotional feedback.
If I can make professionals from New York city give me 1,253 words of feedback, I’m a happy man. A happy Chef/Writer.
As an apology I will construct a huge statue of Paula in my front yard. I say huge because it will be a scale monument.
Thank you to everyone for your advice and suggestions.
SheikBLoco at 1:29AM on 03/15/08
Bravo, Royny23. Well written. Now, can you help me become a better writer? Freelancing writing is incredibly difficult. I'm constantly being hammered by deadlines and I always feel like my writing stinks.
PumpkinBear at 2:18AM on 03/15/08
@roy so what do you want a cookie? You do not have to critique anyone's writing. It is about food not about writing skills. And we often disgaree with each other. Like right now. It is my opinion and I am entitled to it. You do not have to agree with his opinion about Ms Deen. But leave your writing critiques someplace else it is kind of dry. Maybe a nice dose of get over yourself might be in order. More Drama!
JerzeeTomato at 3:13AM on 03/15/08
What royny23 wrote may come across as dry, but to anyone who's considering writing professionally, he's summarised a lot of crucial points, so the response is very relevant to the original post: SheikBLoco's 4th sentence IS: 'Any tips, advice, or direction that anyone could provide as to how to get my foot in the door would be greatly appreciated'.
I'm a copyeditor, and the amount of work most MSs need before their quality is acceptable to a publisher borders on (sometimes crosses the border to, actually) unbelievable. Plenty of publishers won't even accept a MS that whose grammar/spelling they consider too poor, or whose tone comes across as 'problematic' (too biased, too emotional, etc.). Standards do still exist.
There is one other thing: Over time, one's understanding of a situation or setting changes, and as a result, so does one's attitude. If one feels impassioned about something, it's tempting to just let the feelings rip, and not hold back. That's fine. Write it all out just as you feel it. Then put it away. Go back to it a little later when you're feeling calm and philosophical. Read what you've written with as much detachment as possible. Ask yourself: If you were to read this after having undergone a 180-degree turnaround from your current point of view, would you be ashamed of what you'd written? Be honest. Things can come back to haunt you as a writer. It is possible to be both objective and impassioned; striving for this will increase the respect with which your writing is received, and will reduce the odds that your writing will rebound on you at a critical point in your carrear .
mongoose at 5:38AM on 03/15/08
I was just offered my first job as a feature writer. Now that I will have (some) stability, I hope to build up a freelance portfolio on the side. Can I ask the freelancers here where they find work (if online, which sites)? I'm interested in food writing, especially for magazines, but I'm versatile and have written nonfiction articles about everything from Whole Foods to autism education. I've also worked on the editorial staff of a luxury lifestyle magazine.
Thoughts?
I have some (fairly nonprofessional) writing on my blog: http://www.threepotato.blogspot.com
KarynMC at 8:36AM on 03/15/08
@SheikBLoco.......your "apology" was sarcasm and more insults. Two wrongs do not make a write.r.
PerkyMac at 10:50AM on 03/15/08
I actually think @roy nailed it pretty well. His post is articulate, relevant and interesting, not at all dry IMHO.
There is one rather significant point that has been missed, however, throughout this thread. The original poster seems not to realize that the "Paula Deen Is Trying to Kill Us" series is tongue-in-cheek, and is not meant to be vitriolic or mean-spirited. At least that's always been my read on it.
Witness this quote from Adam's AHT item re Deen's donut-egg-burger:
"On Serious Eats, we've got a bit of a running joke about all the ways in which Food Network superstar Paula Deen is trying to kill us..."
And his subsequent post in the comments of that same thread:
"As much as we like to poke fun at Paula for trying to 'kill' us [note intended facetious tone indicated by quotation marks], I have to admit, this looks crazily delicious..."
On this site, you'll find a wide range of opinions about TV cooking personalities, but for the most part, the discussions are kept civil. When they aren't, Ed and the crew are great about jumping in with a warning and a complete thread-lock if need be. I believe that this is representative of their generally light-hearted, fair-minded approach to the commentary throughout the site. Perhaps the OP should re-read some of the site and reconsider his assessment of the tone and attitudes being conveyed here.
LoCo at 12:43PM on 03/15/08
@royny23, thank you so much for your post.
NuJoi at 1:50PM on 03/15/08
JerzeeTomato,
I'm sorry that you didn't like my reply, but you seem to have missed the boat on several counts:
1. You wrote: "@roy so what do you want a cookie? You do not have to critique anyone's writing. It is about food not about writing skills." The whole point of the original post was that the chef wanted a career in food writing. You can't have a career in food writing if you're not a good writer, so, in fact, in this case it is about both food and writing skills. I only critiqued the original poster's writing because it seemed like the original post was an ad hominem attack on Deen backed by nothing resembling a fact.
2. You then wrote: "And we often disgaree with each other. Like right now. It is my opinion and I am entitled to it." You are 100% correct. We are each entitled to our opinions and yet, it appears that you feel your opinion is more correct than mine is. Maybe I'm reading too much into your reply, but considering the healthy dose of attitude in your reply, maybe I'm not...
3. You continued: " You do not have to agree with his opinion about Ms Deen. But leave your writing critiques someplace else it is kind of dry."
(If I were critiquing randomly, I'd have criticized your run-on sentence above.) I made the point that my reply was not necessarily based on whether I agreed or disagreed with his opinion. (I won't quote what I wrote. I'm sure you can find it if you look back in my initial reply.The reason I attempted to keep my critique on the "dry" end of the spectrum was that I was trying to be very careful about keeping my comments critical without being overly personal. I was actually going for a dry tone, so I'm glad you picked up on it.
4. You concluded: "Maybe a nice dose of get over yourself might be in order. More Drama!" Fair enough. Again, throughout, I tried to be as constructive as possible and tried to do my best not to promote myself too much. (You'll notice that I didn't mention the name of my Web sites, nor did I mention the books I wrote or edited. It wasn't about me; however, I tried to prove my bona fides so that it didn't seem like I was just another random "expert" who knew nothing about writing posting his opinion.
And let's not forget the most important point: The original poster wanted people to critique him. So I believe that I did exactly what was asked of us.
I'm sorry to have offended you.
royny23 at 2:06PM on 03/15/08
This has really turned ridiculous.
Thanks for the help, not critiques.
Paula Deen is still terrible.
Goodbye.
SheikBLoco at 11:30PM on 03/15/08
Hey KarynMC, I've found a lot of my freelancing jobs on Craigslist. You of course have to be super cautious and make sure it's legit, but I have a fulltime freelancing gig right now with one of the fastest growing companies. I found this particular job through Craigslist.
PumpkinBear at 1:54AM on 03/16/08
The level of conflict generated in this topic is what 'stickiness' is made out of - whether it be on a website such as SE or in a written piece anywhere.
In that sense, the OP generated a successful piece of writing - and he did get what he asked for, which was advice in the particular profession (note the word "profession" here - for the connotation of the word infers that here is an activity that needs to studied and practiced at some length in order to be able to do it on a level where $$ is paid for doing it - which is one sure test (though perhaps not the only one) of whether the level of the work being done is worth people giving up something ($$) for the pleasure of its experience.
To use the example of being a chef (as the OP claimed to be): Yes, there are amateur cooks that might be able to cook as well as a chef who runs a professional kitchen each day. But could they walk into a professional kitchen and run it? Would things work right, would people pay for it? Could a good cook walk into a professional kitchen and immediately take charge and make it run right?
If the OP has (at some personal or parental expense) attended the CIA and had to study and pass tests of many specific orders, including how to start and operate a restaurant as a business, then I would guess that he/she would vote that it takes more than being a good cook to be able to step into the shoes of "chef" just because it sounds cool.
As someone who was an executive chef myself at a point of time in my own life, my previous question rose (one might actually term it a journalistic one - for facts need to be correct when published or the entire thing written is moot, isn't it? The recent Robert Irvine debacle is surely an example of that!): "You're a chef? Tell me about it." People will ask. Credentials matter, so be sure that they are phrased accurately. Don't gild the lily. Remember what a chef is - respect it as a profession, not a graduation from a school. And remember what a writer is as a profession - it too demands study, hard work, and application.
That the original post generated conflict is actually good in some ways. Then of course the question should be asked: Does one trust the response given and/or the group giving it enough to want more? Is the response to be respected? Will it help in reaching the stated goal? That is something that plays out differently in any variety of scenarios.
Critique is exactly what writers get. Moreseo than anyone who cooks at any level - for people generally have a soft spot in their hearts when sitting down at a table to be fed (Alan Rich obviously has taken steps to become more objective about this, with interesting results) whereas nobody sits down to read with gratitude but rather with all their critical antennae out to sense whether this thing, this gathering of words . . . is good to eat or not, believable or not, interesting or not. And then (as words are ideas) the readers' own ideas surface and it is "join up" time or attack time. (That is one reason rhetoric as a writing device is so intensely taught in the English Departments of universities now - everyone "out there" who is bothering to participate has an opinion and they all want to "win" - though certainly there are other genres of writing that can be explored in either direction of this central ground, whether they be softer and solely informational with no personality added but for a big smile or the other thing which is fiction which can speak softly but carry a big stick.)
So if you like to cook, cook. That is easy enough, it is self-generated and people are generous when given the opportunity to taste the results of your offerings. If you like to run a professional kitchen, dealing with vendors/customers-guests/waitstaff/ fresh foods in bulk for high production levels/health codes-zoning/ management and of course the thing Bourdain immortalized as kitchen culture which exists in many professional kitchens, then be a chef. If you like to sit at a table combining words then recombining them in revision in the endless quest for the right flavor, color, and aroma of alphabetic recipe (while hopefully spelling things right and learning the endless rules of grammar which fill books the size of steamer trunks if you know what a steamer trunk is heh heh) then sending them out into the world to be torn apart, then be a writer.
Hey. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do. (I think that quote came from Robert Duvall in some movie but really can't prove it . . .)
Oh yeah. If I had to shorten this post, I'd just look at royny23's posts and say "What he said." But why do that, when all this free white space is here to fill with keyboard symbols!
Karen Resta at 9:58AM on 03/16/08
I'm from the great state of Alabama and find her absolutely appalling... What " positive stereotype " is she trying to portray...? There are many hard working women and single mothers in the south and I can tell you that the only ones who act like that are the dregs of our southern culture...In fact my ninety year old mother , who happens to be a great southern LADY , cannot bear to listen to her or watch her...She refers to Ms. Deen as that nasty trashy woman who screeches ... And, personally I have never heard a southerner say Y'ALL every few syllables ... And I was born,bred and raised in the south by great and true southern people.... She is an embarrassment ...
hoecakebaby at 12:58AM on 04/19/08