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Down Home With The Neely's Dilemma!

I should just begin by saying I'm a total dork and I'm completely socially awkward. Meaning that things I perceive to be "embarrassing" make me feel SO awkward- even if it's while watching T.V. I'm one of those people that has to change the channel if I see someone making an ass of themselves on television, I just can't bare to watch. That being said, today I caught my first episode of the new Food Network show "Down Home with the Neely's" and there were serveral times where I had the blanket pulled up to my face because I was completely embarrassed and kind of mortified- and it had NOTHING to do with the food. As a matter of fact I don't even care about the food- it looked like plain ol' comfort food, no big deal. I'm talking about the overt sexual dialogue between the two of them. Has anyone else noticed this or am I just a total pervert picking up on things that aren't there? Gina calls Pat "Daddy," and, "Big Daddy" and "Papi," while Pat constantly refers to her as sexy or a "sexy mama" or as his "hot wife." At one point, I kid you not, they both had a beater in their hand and Pat went to lick it and Gina put her entire mouth around it and Pat said, "That's why I married you." God bless them if they're still this sexually attracted to eachother after years of marriage and kids, but it seems so awkward and misplaced in the kitch. Kind of like they're either trying too hard. What do you guys think?

46 Comments:

There's a commercial I've seen lately where she's going on about his hands and massaging, and he's putting some kind of marinade or something on a roast.

It didn't make me squeamish, but it just seems weird for a cooking show. It'll be interesting to see if this show lasts, and/or if they cut back on the bantering.

Glad to see someone other than me is a little disturbed about their banter. Thought it was my age....lol. I made their barbeque sauce and it was one of the best ever, as I don't like smokey flavoring.

That beater incident is a bit over the top for TV - very demonstrative. That's even a bit forward for me and that's saying something.

A couple of years back when her husband first bought her Semi-Homemade on TVFN, Shamdra used to wax sexual about how, after serving one of her f'ntastic packaged food meals, she and her husband might not make it all the way up the stairs because they were so anxious to get their hands on each other. The very visual made me gag harder than the food being demonstrated.

As far as "loving exchanges" go I like Ina and Jeff. After so many years together, she appears to still love taking care of him and while what we see on TV is staged, the optimist in me wants to believe some measure of it is true.

I've only watched one ep of the Neelys - not by any disdain for the show but simply because I was only in front of the TV once while it was on. Mrs. Neely was preparing some type of food "guaranteed to get you a man." While this might have been her catalyst for preparing the recipe, she must have said that a dozen times... "If you make this, next thing you know, you will have a man!!"

Don't get me wrong. I am not above augmenting feminine wiles with cooking skills (and have on a number of occasions) but the constant repetition of this phrase really grated on me. Her husband was not featured in that ep. I shudder to think what would have happened if he were featured, given the "mission statement" of that particular ep.

I fear the focus on the couple will detract from any really good food the Neelys might prepare.

I saw that episode yesterday! I missed the beater part. I am always multi-tasking when the TV is on. They are way over the top!! I watch the Food Network to see certain shows and maybe learn something new. There must be other channels for sex ed!

It was obvious from their promo that food was only secondary. I'm disgusted by it. I agree with chiffO regarding Ina and Jeff, if they want to show a loving relationship. Those two make you smile and give you hope. You can find cheap sex and innuendo on nearly every other channel. It's one of the reasons I don't watch Paula's party show. I haven't checked, but I'll bet Gordon Elliot is producing the Neely's, as he does Paula and Aunt Sandy? Same eye for quality. I'll pass on the Neely's.

In there tired attempt to put new faces on the food network I'm disappointed with this show, they seem to be hamming it up for the camera and shaking her booty, what has that got to do with food...??? It seems in the direction that food net. is going they'll be the MTV of food....remember when MTV accutally played music videos

I'm intrigued. Now I have to watch it to see what offends me.

While I applaud the FN for finally paying attention to producing programing with more cultural diversity, can they not also pay attention to high quality programing? I know this is kind of getting off topic, but it really frustrates me.

I heart Ina & Jeffery!

Haven't seen the Neely's yet...I'm assuming the focus is on bbq and other "down home" flavors. Are they on late at night?

Saturday morning. I second the Ina & Jeffrey comment! My husband like to look at the "pretty" FN hosts, but when the Neely's came on his only comment was "Are you kidding me?"

i agree 100% with what your saying, the show is about cooking and nothing else. i turned the channel yesterday because it made my family feel uncomfortable. i just hope gina, her husband and gordon ellilot read these comments. i think if it doesnt stop it needs to be shut down.

My family and I always joke about Ina and Jeffrey that during the week he's got some 20 year old girlfriend in the city! They do seem to have a great marriage, a lot like my parents 36 years, I like them a lot.

I don't like the Neely's show, it just seems too over the top with the family interaction. I soooo appreciate Markbb's line about the MTV of food, you are dead on!

Seriously?

Seriously?

Ina and Jeff?

Seriously?

Come on, guys. This is the problem with romance in America.

That is all.

I'm with you, Chaoss. And in that line, it's not so surprising that Ina and Jeffrey admirers might be put off by what the OP described re the Neelys.

I haven't seen the Neely show, but this topic immediately brings Nigella to mind. Nobody seemed to mind her suggestively licking fingers and spoons. I'll keep further speculations to myself, though.

That's a good point, Renzata. I don't mind Nigella's sometimes suggestive phrasings. The thing is that she's subtle in her sexiness and innuendo. I've never seen Nigella put an entire beater in her mouth and then proclaim something like, "That's why my husband married me!" It's just way over the top. As far as Ina and Jeffrey go, my boyfriend and I joke that Jeffrey's gay and he and Ina have a loving relationship, though it's just one for show. Who's being inappropriate now?!

I have no problem with their innuendo, and am amazed that in today's world anyone other than Mrs. Grundy would feel so.

That said, I got over the Neely's fairly quickly just because their patter is so obviously "on" and "prepared" - I thought I was watching one of those tightly scripted sit-coms with a laugh track that show a "real family" unlike any real family around.

PumpkinBear, are you suggesting that Ina likes to hang out with gay men? I don't believe it! (of course I am joking all around).

Like I said, I didn't see the show, and fellating an egg beater is not very subtle. But I won't agree that Nigella is always subtle, either. Multi-syllabic and very well read, sure, but I don't think she's above sucking on cherries while gazing into the camera, and it's not *that* different, after you subtract her posh accent.

Anyhoo, I'll keep an eye out for the Neely program and maybe I'll have a stronger opinion. So far, I expect it to be more corny than anything else.


I think there's actually more overt flirting than there is innuendo-- love pats, pecks, compliments galore-- but...honestly... I think it's sweet....This is a couple who has been together for a very long time and work together and still enjoy cooking together at home for each other and their family...

I don't watch food shows on television in general, but naturally this topic caught my attention.

After reading the comments I just had to see what the Neelys looked like, so I could imagine these things going on and compare them in my mind with the comments about Ina and her husband (never seen him either) and Nigella who of course I know what she looks like as it is part of the overall package that she is marketed by (which would include her looks and spoon-licking).

So I went to the Neely's website and that did not tell me too much so sooner or later I'll have to tune into the show to either be appalled or delighted by their behavior aside from the cooking but anyway - Adam Roberts was right smack dab in the center of the website in a video. I think it's probably about cooking but didn't view it so who knows!

Here's the link to the Neely's site if you'd like to see it. Please do let me know if there is any monkey business going on . . .

I watched part of an episode of the Neely's and turned it off because the focus was on what I wasn't interested in seeing, I do the same with Nigella. If they offend you turn it off, eventually FN will get the message or not, lets face it some people actually like voyerism.

I love Ina and Jeffrey! She seems soooo in love with him! She also has some delicious recipes.
I caught alittle of the Neelys show and felt uncomfortable also. I feel the same about Paulas Party. (at times). Sexual innuendos throughout. Do we not see and hear enough of that on tv! Why does it have to be on the FN? grrrr

I watched a little bit of the Neely's and was underwhelmed. I guess I didn't watch it long enough to get to the sexual innuendo. I was bothered by the amount of sugar going into the savory items. They made some homemade potato chips, and seasoned them with the Neely's special spice blend, which I think was paprika, sugar and onion powder. Then they made some bleu cheese dressing/ dip that also contained sugar. I felt confused, so I changed the channel.

Sorry to get back on the Nigella idea, but I just read these two paragraphs and immediately thought of this thread (tho it's not written by her):

"Temptation can never be far away for a man married to Nigella Lawson, the delectable domestic goddess. Who would not want to sample her vanilla apples with sweetheart croutes? Taste her duck breasts with pomegranate and mint? Or trifle with her passion fruit fool?

As for her lunchbox treats (page 266 of her latest tome, Nigella Express) – the thought is enough to make you quiver."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article3559318.ece

well I must say, I have been waiting to comment on the "neelys". I am African American and have been waiting to see a show of color from the food network for some time. What they gave America was the Neelys!! You must be kidding me! I HATE that show. I don't understand why all the sexual comments and gestures. It has nothing to do with food. I am from down south and food reminds me of love, comfort, and my mother, grandmother, and aunts. Not this mess they have given us. It makes me wonder if this is what the network thinks of black people. I am sure this is scripted and someone felt this was what people of color wanted to see but this is what we feared! Go back to the drawing board, cut Gina out of the plot and just allow pat to cook. He has a way with the camera. If he leaves the sex out of cooking and just cook he is sure to do well.

@sonjee.........wholeheartedly agree. Keep Pat (I hope he'd be awesome), nix Gina. Her voice is like chewing aluminum foil, while scratching nails on a blackboard. The catch phrase for the show is that they have a passion for food and a passion for each other. Let Pat show his passion for food, and keep the other in the bedroom, PLEASE. So offensive and terribly inappropriate for a cooking show!

The Neely's are supposed to be professional chef's and all they do is play and act like children. Cooking is hardly involved, but there is a lot of kissing, touching and inapporpiate comments which do not belong on a cooking show. As an African-American Southern woman with a family, this show is totally offensive to me because it is just like a stupid "sitcom."

Food Network please, please, give us a professional and serious cooking show and not an idiotic, cheap imitation because we deserve better than that. Pat can stay because he seems dedicated and serious, but Gina and that "screeching" voice can head back to Memphis!

Stop laughing every minute and cook, if not Food Network "can" that horrible unprofessional cooking show1

The Neely's need to go back to Memphis and watch Rachael Ray, Bobby Flay, "Barefoot Contessa," Jamey Oliver and Iron Chef to learn how to "cook" on a cooking show. I do not like how they talk and ramble about everything expect for cooking. "Big Daddy" this give me a "kick" here sounds so juvenile and inmature and I am an African-American Southern woman writing these comments.

Food Network, this is supposed to be a "cooking show" not tips on how to please your mate. Pat would be ok if Gina left because he seems serious and all she does is laugh and make "stupid and inappropriate" comments. Children may watch this show and unless they start acting like professional chefs, Food Network needs to "can them!" Please listen to our suggestions and comments

It is really unfortunate that with the minimum amount of African Americans on television we are criticizing one another. However, I agree with the majority of the posts. Their behavior is not always appropriate for a food show. I think they both can be over the top at times, her more so than him. The cameral loves Pat. Not because he's handsome, but because he seems more geniune and less scripted as Gina does. I understand the family coming over to eat. That is a cultural thing. In fact, the cameras love the family too. I really want this show to work so that there is a representation of people of color; but I think it needs to be revamped. Don't take it off the air, just tone them down a little.

By the way, Rachel Ray is too animated and over the top as well. She can stand to be toned down too. But I still love her!

A few things:

I think anything that you feel embarrassed to watch with your GROWN children is inappropriate. The first time I watched the Neely's, my son-in-law came walking through the kitchen, and I was mortified. So, yes, I think the "banter" between the Neely's is in approriate, but this is the way I handle it: I don't watch the show at all anymore. Period. I urge anyone who feels the same way to do that. Let people who enjoy it or who don't get embarrassed by the ribald remarks watch this show in peace.

I think Ina and Jefferey Garten are adorable, sweet, and all class. I love watching them together, and nothing they ever do is embarrassing or crass.

And, finally, the Neely's make Nigella and Nigella's "commentary" seem chaste. Even Ms. Lawson isn't as overtly sexual with her innuendo and behavior as the Neely's. They just make me wince!

@Flutterby - Actually, I would be proud of any African American who could express his or herself honestly and say, "Hey the Neelys' food might be good but the performance is a bit much." In other words, I wouldn't say I love a TV chef just because he or she is Italian or white but would express my like or dislike for the food, techniques and general "mission" of the show.

As for African American Chefs, give me Marcus Samuelsson any day! We lost a great chef in the late Patrick Clark as well. (Tavern on the Green was THE BEST under him.)

I have watched the show a couple of times and every time I end up turning the channel. The spice fairy needs to go some where, I'm glad there in love and all but come on. I'm here to watch a "food" network show to learn not to turn up my nose b/c the spice fairy is shaken her booty and shovin' beaters down her throat.
That goes ditto for Paula's party show, "GROSS"!!

I don't mind them so much, I like their playful attitude with cooking, I wish I could get my husband to help me in the kitchen even for 5 minutes. I don't think there's one host/show on that channel that doesn't have something annoying about them, whether it be their stupid mannerisms or unnecessary cleavage or creepy "seductive" sideways glances for a FOOD show.

I admit that something during their show yesterday made me laugh out loud, which normally doesn't happen while I'm watching that channel.

Speaking of Paula, I think Antonio Sabato Jr. has grounds to file charges against her for sexual harassment for what I saw last night... and I'd be more than happy to represent him. ;)

I hate this show.
It sucks.

They didn't OFFEND me, it was just awkward.

I haven't watched the show yet but because of the comments posted here I will have to now. I gotta see if it as over the top and revolting as posters say. Food Network used to be about cooking and lots less cheese... I don't hardly watch it it all any longer.

Umm, Marcus Samuelsson is not African American.

Back when Giada first came on, my then 21 year old college son told me it was "soft porn" and that he never missed it. His affection for Giada turned into a genuine love of cooking. She was never trashy or overtly sexual: the camera work and the pace of the show made it sensual.

I have been watching the Neely's since the beginning. Overtime, I have found Gina to be far too anoying. I have noticed that Pat tries to tell some small stories about certain dishes, and immediately Gina cuts him off. I do enjoy watching him. I get the feeling that if he does not indulge Gina in her need for attention, he will have hell to pay. I love the recipes. Can someone just ask Miss Gina to tone it down, so we don't have to turn them off.

Another Foodnetwork classic example of putting people in front of the camera who think they are entertainers instead of teachers. What I have learned lately is that some home "chefs" have graduated from this level of questionable education and move on. There are so many good cooking shows on PBS (and a few on FoodNW). We need only point our remote control at our TV and move on to what pleases us.

TVFN has a terrible habit of confusing the word "chef" with "cook."

I LOVE the Neely's. Their playful banter comes across as 100% genuine. I don't know how anyone can be grossed out by it or find it inappropriate. It's a beautiful thing to me to see a married couple who obviously adore each other. Funny.....people don't seem to be bugged by the psycho personalities and disgusting behavior on some of these reality shows, yet when a MARRIED couple show some passion, they get upset? Go figure.

@RoseL ~ I can only speak for myself, but as a person fascinated by food, there is ZERO room on my DVR for Fake reality television. Go figure.....

I am African American and am embarrassed by the Neely's. It should be a show you could watch with your parents, grandparents and children. Gina's spice fairy routine is annoying. Her banter especially when she said her grandmother told her how to get a man "here(heart), here(stomach) and "down there" was so repulsive! I do enjoy Pat's quiet manner. I think they can cook a lot more than just BBQ. Their Road Tasted with the Neely's shows some great places but Gina trying to be the center of everyone's attention makes the show a loser. I was hoping the show would be a positive portrayal of a middle to upper class African American family who lives in a nice house, works hard and enjoys cooking. If I wanted to hear about their "passion" I would think that would be on a different channel.

Paula Deen used to be a favorite but she and Gina are the same ... too vulgar and it is very uncomfortable to watch.

I kinda wish I had FN just to se what is going on. :) To bad they don't stream the shows online like the networks do.

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This show is no surprise to me. It is just another affirmation that FN is going
down hill rapidly.

I personally dont mind the neely's...they're real. Its not just -mix this add that bake it and bam theres ur dish- They're obvisouly very happy together. But just to see a married couple laughing and cooking together is so great. Theres nothing wrong with her calling him bid daddy or whatever. So What! They're always smiling laughing and sometimes they are a -pick me up- And they get their food cooked. This is what cooking is about....it's what makes it fun. I hate standing over the stove by myself quitely cooking. it nice to chat and what not, it makes u WANT to be standing over that hot stove. And for all of you that want them off the air because they love each other too much, ur crazy. They r happy with each other and not ashamed to show the world how they feel. And thats probably y their food comes out so good. So dont hate. You all sound like u haven't had love like that b4. cuz if u did u should understand. Its a new day, n worse things r on tv. This is real love. watch it and enjoy it.

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