Pre-mixed spice blends -
Do you utilize things like garlic salt, lemon pepper, seasoned salt, even purchased rubs or do you "pooh pooh" them and those that use them and do everything from scratch? (which could include purchasing all the spices to make your own rib rub or batch of cajun spice) Or are you a strictly "I grow, roast/dry/harvest/find, and grind my own ___________ (fill in the blank) to make my spice blends and rest of you are neanderthals and should not consider yourself worthy of the term foodie." (said tongue in cheek as I look for that remaining flavor of shrimp and crab chowder)
I tend to do a mixture. I make my own rubs by always keeping things like chili powder, cayenne, paprika, oregano etc. on hand but I do use seasoned salt (especially on buttered popcorn), lemon pepper, and bunch of others.
What about you?
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30 Comments:
Good question...I make some of my own, buy one or two, and doctor those up sometimes. I'd rather use them and have a meal that tastes good than not cook at all when there is no time or supplies to "do it right". Often a purchased blend will let me try a new taste profile, and then when we decide we love it, we will bulid our own from scratch, with better quality ingredients.
Cary at 1:51PM on 02/15/08
My favorite is McCormick's low sodium Montreal Steak seasoning. I go through it like crazy. I tried the Montreal Chicken seasoning and threw it out. On a rare occasion I will use an Italian Seasoning blend if my own homemade is gone, but I grown fresh basil, oregano, thyme, sage, (nearly every herb you can grow) and put them in at the end for a fresh taste.
In my cabinet, left by my mother, are seasoning salt and Emeril's Original Essence. I haven't tried either and don't know what I'd even put them on/in.
I make my own spice rubs, but might add a little steak seasoning in the mix. Gosh, I love that stuff! Lemon pepper? Nothing can beat fresh lemon (or orange) zest for flavor and fresh pepper is in nearly everything I make. I love spices!
One blend I just can't stomach is Old Bay seasoning. I've seen the best chefs use it, and I have it on hand, but I don't like the smell or the taste. Am I alone in that?
PerkyMac at 1:51PM on 02/15/08
There are two ready-made blends that I use - lemon pepper and 5-spice powder. My lemon pepper is "semi-homemade" though (why do I want to kick myself for using this "term"?:-)) - I have a small grinder with the mix of lemon zest and black peppercorns which I bough originally back in London, many years ago (I know that it was Italian, but the name on the sticker has become illegible and I don't remember what it was), and ever since the original mix ended, I've been refilling it. Um, I guess, at this point it is entirely homemade:-).
I always make my own rubs because commercial ones are never to my liking (I've also discovered that some of them have trans fats, but even before that I just wasn't using them). I don't "pooh pooh" ready made rubs & blends and those who use them though - I think it's the matter of taste. I choose to make my own mostly because I don't fancy the combinations out there, but I don't think I will be mixing my own 5-spice powder any time soon:-). I guess the bottom line is, I don't mind spice blends that are pure spice blends, without "mystery ingredients", hydrogenated oils and stabilisers, but I will not be using seasoning packets that contain the above (and I guess I do kind of "pooh pooh" these, after all:-)...perhaps because "seasoning packets" and "Aunt Sandy" are now inseparable in my mind).
brooke29 at 2:02PM on 02/15/08
@brooke29.......lemon zest keeps? Do you have to dry it first? If so, does it lose flavor? The jarred has no citrus flavor that I could make out.
I'm out of luck iif I don't have fresh lemons or oranges - please, give me a great alternative.
PerkyMac at 2:10PM on 02/15/08
Do herbes de provence count for the purposes of your question? several years ago, before hurricane katrina, i bought a bottle of salt-free cajun spice from the French Market spice complay. it was nice because generally seasoning blends are over 1/2 salt, and this one wasn't. i felt like i got what i paid for (why pay $10 for a bottle of seasoning blend, when 1/2 of it is salt, which costs 10 cent?).
beth1 at 2:15PM on 02/15/08
I like Herbes de Provence - used it last night braising beef, it is also good with potatoes.
McCormick makes a Greek seasoning blend I love. It has lemon, garlic, oregano, mint and other flavors. I use it with fresh lemon juice and olive oil as a marinade, and it also makes a great dip mixed with Fage yogurt.
Oh, and my eight year old loves tacos, so I am guilty of buying the packets of taco seasoning.
SSMom at 2:18PM on 02/15/08
Yep, I dry it first. I use a paring knife (not a microplane) and "pick" a little bit of the rind (barely 1 mm), because the original pieces of dry lemon zest had some rind on them too, so I am guessing, the rind is what dries and allows the zest to dry with it (it's totally my wild non-scientific theory, so feel free to make fun of me here). When ground together with black pepper, it gives me pretty much the same (as far as I remember now:-)) result flavour-wise as the original mix used to. Naturally, the original mix gave me the idea of doing it in the first place:-)
brooke29 at 2:28PM on 02/15/08
I love Butt Rub. It's kind of like a really spicy, peppery season salt. I tried it at a convention once and love it on meats and popcorn.
I'm also experimenting with adobo. The girls I work with are trying to teach the "white girl" how to use it and convince me that it makes everything taste better. I'm leary....but experimenting.
jcrisco at 2:35PM on 02/15/08
SayWhat: Just curious, did you happen to get the idea for this question from The Pioneer Woman Cooks: Pan-fried Ribeye post?
Cary at 3:43PM on 02/15/08
@PerkyMac: I can't stand Old Bay either...it finally lost it's place in my cabinet. I just don't understand the appeal: the newest can of it still smells musty and stale to me. I don't want to taste dust!
Cary at 3:44PM on 02/15/08
I don't use many packaged spices, but I do use the chili powder blend from my local co-op. I only get a little bit at a time, and they seem to have a high turnover on cooking spices. Other than that, I add my herbs and spices to a dish individually- that is, I don't make a blend and then add. I never know when I'll be in the mood for "super spicy," vs. "not that spicy."
Oh, I guess I have a little container of cinnamon and sugar that I mixed up a while back.
My mom uses the McCormick Montreal steak seasoning. When she sprinkled some on a pot roast bound for the crock pot, I thought it smelled and looked yummy. Unfortunately, I didn't stick around for the final product.
Kerosena at 3:46PM on 02/15/08
I'm not a big fan of a heavy Cinnamon taste, so I substitute Penzeys Baking Spice, "a mix of Ceylon softsick Cinnamon, rich Mace, Sweet Anise, and a hint of cool Cardamom". The other spices seem to balance out the Cinnamon.
It's my "Secret Ingredient" in a lot of baked goods.
srhcb at 5:57PM on 02/15/08
I use:
- madras curry powder
- Gebhardt's chili powder
- Tony Cachere's Creole (wish it was salt free, though)
- Sazon Goya (for rice, when I am lazy and just want to use the rice cooker and not bother with a pilaf),
- lemon pepper (never as a sub for lemon, only as another layer of lemon and/or pepper)
I have herbes de provence but I always forget about it until after I've already added most of the components separately.
renzata at 6:58PM on 02/15/08
@renzata.....Sazon is another one they've got me on at the moment. I've used it for rice with pigeon peas. How do you use it in the rice cooker?
jcrisco at 10:16PM on 02/15/08
I have not found a good Herbes de Provence and would like to make my own. The mixture typically contains rosemary, marjoram, basil, bay leaf, thyme, and sometimes lavender flowers and other herbs. The proportions vary by manufacturer. Thyme usually dominates the taste produced by the herb mixture. I'm sure some of you have your own blend. I'm hesitant to put in bay (as much as I love it, but I remove it when finished cooking), and I don't know how much lavender to use - I've never cooked with it. I wonder what other herbs are used? Suggestions would be most appreciated!
I like Ortega taco seasoning too, for tacos and simple and layered dips/salads. I've never tried to replicate it because I don't do a lot of spicy cooking.
PerkyMac at 10:28PM on 02/15/08
I like Old Bay, and Emeril's Essence, Except I make my own per his recipe and use about 1/4 the salt.Growing your own lets you use less than called for in recipes, the fresh/dried has so much more flavor than the store bought.I also grow my own peppers, Anaheim, jalapeno, habanero, and bells, and then let them hang and dry. A burst or two in my grinder(Mr. Coffee, never ever seen a bean) and I can adjust my chili powder to whether or not I like my guests.(Sorry, Super Bowl people).
Pegasus at 2:33AM on 02/16/08
Ok gosh here we go. Tony Cachiere's comes in no salt find his website. I use that in my fried chicken. McCormick Montreal Steak is the secret ingredient in my smashed potatoes. Old Bay is what I sprinkle on my chicken panini bread that everyone loves but cannot place. I love penzeys salt blends they are so nice. I also love Penzeys cake spice and I used it in coffee cake and cinnamon rolls. I love Penzeys shallot salt and shallot pepper. If you have not tried this sweet oniony mix you should. I use Sazon when I make arroz con pollo and there is no real replacement for that little packet it just works. Chinese 5 spice is the pinch that goes into my bbq sauce and teriyaki. I experiment with flavors and if I am out and about and I find a new one I always bring it home and give it a try.
Old Bay is a Maryland bay staple. There are different renditions and the one I like best I got at the Ace Hardware store in MD. It is a local mix with just a bit of hot pepper and very little salt.
JerzeeTomato at 3:35AM on 02/16/08
Jcrisco, I just mix it in with the water and the rice before I push the button (love that). I use other seasonings, too, like low-sodium bouillon powder or cumin or garlic or onion powder or fresh herbs (though i prefer to add those after the rice has cooked).
You can use all kinds of stuff in there,as long as you keep the total liquid measure the same. Last week I swapped out the water for a mixture of coconut milk and chicken stock.
It's awesome for when you're not in the mood to do a proper pilaf. And a bit less oil in the diet, for whatever that's worth.
Sorry for veering off-topic.
renzata at 12:35PM on 02/16/08
The only commercial blends you'll find in my seasoning inventory are curry powder and garam masala. Neither gets used much, because I usually add individual seasonings myself when I cook, even if I'm making a curry. But, it's mighty convenient to have a jar of a good-tasting blend on hand to add oomph to some quick dish I'm just throwing together without a recipe.
I also make a big container of my own chili powder from my own recipe and keep it on hand at all times. I hate the commercial blends because they are usually mostly salt. Mine is cheaper, tastes way better, and contains no salt. Why pay three times as much for something that's mostly cheap salt and insufficient quantities of inferior spices? Also, they usually contain garlic powder. Although garlic powder does have a place in my kitchen, I find it unsuitable for chili. I always use fresh garlic for that!
Oh. Wait. I do have furikake and Japanese five-spice or seven-spice. Do those count? I always think of them as condiments, because that's how I use them...
LoCo at 1:10PM on 02/16/08
I don't care for preservatives either and would rather mix my own. The exception being what I buy from Penzey's. I use their Sandwich Sprinkle for making croutons. Some salad dressing and chip dip blends. They have italian, poulty, beef, etc. seasonings that I've been thrilled with. Not to mention everything that isn't a blend.
If you have a Penzey's anywhere near you (I travel 3 hours total to shop there) it's definitely a spice heaven! They have about anything you'd even want, sans stabilizers and preservatives, and you can smell everything in sample jars. They sell all different quantities so you can buy just what you need and nothing gets old or stale. IMO their quality is so much better than anything you get from a grocery store.
bobcatsteph3 at 1:35PM on 02/16/08
I use Old Bay for a chili-beer poached shrimp recipe and for nothing else. I use Lawrey's seasoning for Chex party mix and for nothing else. I use five spice for my plate of fried rice ( have to hide it in the back of the cabinet from my SO or he'll gag). I purchased a jerk blend, cajun blend and garam masala each for one recipe and have not used them since. I use chili powder along with garlic powder and cumin for beef tacos. I have to stop this!
I'm really trying to be better about keeping my herbs and spices more current. I watch the expiration dates closely on herbs that I purchase from the grocery and date all the bulk herbs and spices I buy. I grow most of my own herbs and dry them for my own blends. No real grinding required there since all you have to do is rub them in your hands. The SO, the grillmeister, insists on making his own rubs, so excess of spice mixtures tend to pile up in the cupboard by fall.
Jerzee - I'm a little fascinated by the shallot salt/pepper you mentioned. I am going to check into it. I got SO several spices through Penzey's or Pendrey's, can't recall which, when he was making charcuterie. But we were living in OH then and couldn't find anything more esoteric than chili powder there. We have been really getting into salts lately. There is a new spice shop in Ann Arbor, MI where we live now and we got Murray River Australian Pink Salt, Chardonnay Oak Smoked Fleur de Sel and Black Smoked Sea Salt. They are just pretty groovy to experiment with.
frederika at 3:28PM on 02/16/08
Oh, and Vegeta!
Ancient (Serbian) family secret.
BTW: How the hell does the HTML link work?
srhcb at 6:23PM on 02/16/08
@srhcb.....I copied a previous post explaining this, but I have not yet tried it myself. Good luck!
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PerkyMac at 12:47AM on 02/17/08
DON'T EVEN TRY THE INSTRUCTIONS ABOVE........I copied and pasted, but where you see blue, it changed what I copied and eliminated the most important information.
PerkyMac at 12:54AM on 02/17/08
i like old bay, herbes de provence and there this chili powder mix that i get that has cocoa in it which i like alot
sustarz at 4:46AM on 02/17/08
Sazon Goya, which I use liberally on popcorn and is awesome. It also aways goes in my red beans and rice. My friend's mom's garam masala, which she has brought me back from India a few times. These people put her mom's specs together and make huge batches of it. I only have a bit of it left in my freezer and it's killing me. And please don't laugh, but Wick Fowler's 2 Alarm Chili Mix, which is far better than anything else I've come up with either from recipes or on my own. I tart it up, but it's definitely the flavor base for my chili. And S&B's Black Sesame Seed Seasoning, which is a mix of black sesame seeds, salt and a bit of MSG. It is great on plain white rice and on sliced crisp apples.
chisai at 7:58AM on 02/17/08
Penzey's Sunny Paris, which has the magical powers to improve a bland fish dish or transform a budget lunch (ramen) into a passable experience.
pookywookyster at 11:44AM on 02/17/08
Cary,
Yes.
SayWhat at 8:24PM on 02/17/08
I tend to make my own cajun seasoning because, like most of you, I cut the salt by almost 3/4. I like salt, just not that much in Cajun seasoning, I want the spices to shine.
I recently found a recipe for a Spice rub from Bobby Flay for steaks that was very good - a little heavy on the coriander seed - so I would cut back on that the next time I make it but very flavorful.
I do need to pick up some Chinese Five spice - been out of that for awhile.
SayWhat at 8:32PM on 02/17/08
Cavendar's (sp?) Greek Seasoning, have used this one for years and have not found anything it does not taste good on.
Badia Complete Seasoning, awesome on meat or when you want a Caribbean/Latin flavor, which for me is often.
McCormick Salt Free Garlic and Herb seasoning, tastier and cheaper than Mrs. Dash and the texture is finer which I like.
Goya Adobo con pimento, as a kid this went on EVERYTHING and I still love it.
Christian Smith at 4:13AM on 02/23/08