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Depression / Eating

Lately I've been very depressed and have lost my appetite. I've lost 7 pounds in the last two weeks. I don't really know whether it's not wanting to cook, not wanting to eat, or a combination of the two. Anyways, does anyone have any low effort, nutritionally sound ideas to help perk up my appetite?

Sorry for the downer of a topic. FYI, I am in the process of getting professional help for this.

Thanks in advance for your help!

31 Comments:

It's no surprise that dulling of the sense of taste is a common symptom of depression.

Some people,like you, react by losing their desire to eat, and others try to compensate by eating more.

My advice is to eat more highly seasoned and spicier foods.

Disclaimer: srhcb is not a licensed mental health care provider, not a professional chef, but he is a manic-depressive, a pretty good home cook, and of average weight for his age and height.

If you like chocolate, get the darkest you can tolerate, and let each bite slowly melt in your mouth. Find a quiet place, free of children, spouse, etc, and enjoy.

I get very bad seasonal depression in winter, and I always find myself wanting nothing but soft, easy-to-prepare foods that are easy on my stomach. My favorite meal of this type is eggs and rice - any type of eggs (over easy or scrambled are my favorite) over any rice, though I prefer to get white sticky rice from the Chinese place around the corner, with a bit of soy sauce (or, up that nutritional impact by using Bragg's). Eggs are very nutritionally dense and it's quite a comforting meal that takes almost no time to prepare.

It's beyond the scope of your question, but if you can afford a good food-based multivitamin, I can't recommend it enough. While you're not eating as regularly as you would normally do, you might put yourself at risk for a vitamin deficiency - many of which, I have been learning recently, can exacerbate the symptoms of depression and anxiety.

My own disclaimer is that I'm chronically ill, not depressed, but one of my (several) rare disorders is abdominal migraines (aka cyclic vomiting syndrome). Because my docs didn't know I had this I lost an extreme amount of weight 2 years ago, and was already genetically very thin to begin with. I was able to reverse this with use of proper nausea meds, as well as appetite stimulants--that I still must take daily as my brain fully believes food is poison.

Anywho....after the meds started working I stimulated my appetite by reading about food, then cooking it. I started with food blogs, then moved on to cookbooks and books about cooking and food. Not only do the fiction books get you "out of the moment" but making me hungry really helped as well. Then I started making the food I craved, and lo and behold cooking makes me very happy as well.

I started with bland simple foods like eggs, and oatmeal cookies, then tried my hand at bread, then more complicated foods and whole meals. (I find homemade toast with butter and honey very good for nausea). Basically I just worked my way from the beginning much like feeding a baby. I made what my stomach could tolerate and added foods as I could. I definitely agree with the suggestion of cooking spicier and more flavorful foods.

Also I drink Carnation Instant Breakfast drinks every day for extra nutrition.

I was able to not only gain back all the weight I lost, but I'm proud to say I weigh more than I ever have, am as "healthy" as one can be with chronic, degenerative illness, and I'm now a very good cook.

I believe exercise also wards off depression, and can stimulate the appetite. Hope you get your appetite back soon, I personally know not being able to eat, can really bring spirits down.

Here's something I wrote to someone else in a similar situation. It's been my experience that this works. :)

In a sense you are setting out to capture the wraith of something good, and it can be done.

A Trick to Capture the Wraith:

Decide that you want a salad. A small salad of dark leafy delicate greens. Salads are always good on any occasion and really, they are not cooking. Besides, all you want is a little salad. Not a big one, not a complex one, not one to serve anyone else but you.

When you get to the grocery store choose your greens for delicacy. Do not buy any salad greens that need to be washed. The best thing to do is to find some pre-washed mesclun mix that you can pick and choose from, but if there is none then bagged greens will do. Contrary to concerned whispers in some quarters, there is no ghetto in heaven where those who use bagged salad mixes are relegated to live. They mix right in with all the other good folk.

After your greens are in your cart, find the garlic. This is very important. This is the key. The garlic must be fresh. It cannot be in a jar, it can not be old, it can not be sprouting. Somehow when you look at it you will just know that this is fresh garlic, sweet, soft, juicy. One full head of beautiful garlic is what you need.

Besides that, at home you'll need some good olive oil and vinegar, some salt and pepper to grind onto the salad.

The usual boring things have to be done when you get home. Greens in a bowl, dressing stuff ready to dress it. Now comes the important part. Take the head of garlic and separate it till you get to the center where the tiny cloves are, the little moon slivers of creamy silver, the tiny dense bits of garlic heart. Choose the best one. It will tell you somehow that it is best - be sure to listen for this. Remove the papery skin with a small sharp knife then with a big shiny weapon of a knife, crush the clove into a soft mass on the chopping board. Do not cut it but mash it, till it is almost nothing, but it is a bit of tininess that you can scrape up with the edge of your big shiny weapon of a knife to toss into your waiting bowl of salad. Again, this is not cooking. You are merely making a quick salad for yourself, and salad is always a good thing.

Finish up with dresssing the salad. Nothing but oil, vinegar, salt, pepper. Toss and eat.

Do not clean up the cutting board or knife till later, when you feel like it.

This trick captures the wraith. Try it, you'll see.

Wow, I eat eggs and rice with soy sauce, too. Good advice, and really easy to prepare. Ice cream and peanut butter are also both pretty nutritionally dense.

I'm sorry I don't have any better advice for you, Lilly. I hope things get better for you soon. Keep in contact with your friends and family- social support often helps me when I'm in a bad place. Kudos to you for reaching out to your fellow serious eaters!


Maybe this is silly advice, but maybe you could try forcing yourself to prepare a meal anyway. I know that sometimes I have no appetite but, when eating something tasty and low-prep, end up enjoying what I eat and eating anyway.

Karen Resta's tip of taking your time to slowly make something that you have a niggling desire for and making it well but simply, seems a good one, especially if that something is nutritionally dense.

My sincere best wishes, in any case.

i would suggest taking a brisk walk or getting some form of exercise outside, in a beautiful setting if you possibly can. the fresh air will whet your appetite and the activity will improve your circulation and stimulate endorphins.

you also might want to consider getting a massage. acupuncture or aroma therapy might be useful here. you want to change your body chemistry, get rid of toxins, and facilitate transmission of endorphins and other feel good neurotransmitters.

and there's always THC.

When I suffered a really bad depression two years back first the doctor said get some excercise, which I had to be forced to do but I would assume the same about cooking don't force yourself to eat, that will come naturally but force yourself to cook. Nothing that will make you feel like you've failed and send you further into a depression but something easy that will satisfy your soul.Also go back to your favorite childhood food or when or what ever made you happiest. If that means McDonalds, eat it. It might not be the most nutritionally sound but it might trigger something to bring you back to feeling a little better. Kerosena is right keep in contact with your friends and family and I'm glad you have reached out for help because as I'm sure you know that's the hardest thing to do. As cliched as it sounds there are a lot of other people who have been through depression too. It took me a year just to admit to my family what I was going through. Keep well and make sure to talk to someone, anyone.

I too am a terrible eater. I tend to eat one big meal a day, or go a day without food and then eat a ton the next day. My weight doesn't change much, but not eating regular meals definitely has impacted my metabolism, appetite, attitude about food, and most importantly my mood/energy. To maintain your energy levels for the entire day (and perhaps help get rid of some off the depression): try to make yourself eat at regular mealtimes. Routines help. If it's hard to get motivated, eat with friends, or cook lots of meals in advance when you have time. Don't feel pressured to make a perfect meal. Simple foods are the easiest--fruit, cereals, fresh vegetables--you can't get much more low - effort than that!

I identify -- some recent events have caused me depressed days in which my appetite seems to fall off. I too like softly scrambled eggs at times like that, and buttered toast, and other carbs. A plate of rice or fine egg noodles with butter, salt and pepper can almost always coax me into eating, as will a baked potato -- again, with butter, salt, pepper, and sometimes a dollop of sour cream.

Karen Resta's tip of taking your time to slowly make something that you have a niggling desire for and making it well but simply, seems a good one, especially if that something is nutritionally dense.

As you noted, the making of something well but simply is part of the trick, Christina - but there are really two core things at play in what I like to think of as this "spell". :)

The first thing at play is the lack of fussing, the dropping of any pretension that one is really making a full meal - the acceptance that yes, perhaps right now this is the best that one can do, and within that notion to let go of all stressing thoughts of perfection or timing and rather to wade through doing it as if one were wading in the small waves that come to the shore from a much larger sea. To just say "This is it, and this is okay."

The second thing at play in this trick to capture the wraith is something more measurable, though. And it is magic. It is the aroma of the fresh garlic that will cling to your fingertips after this simple, fresh, light, lazy salad is made of good green things. The deep and urgent warmth of the aroma wafts around oneself, hanging in the air as one lifts fork to mouth again and again - and it is a bane that scatters fogginess of many sorts.

It works, in other words, to arm oneself against other things than vampires.

When I went through a similar thing, the first food that really woke me up out of it was Cheerios. I'm so not kidding...once I could eat a bowl of Cheerios I was finally able to attempt real food.

After that, the first meal I had was a beautiful salad from Le Pain Quotidien in New York. It's very simple: arugula, pine nuts and aged goat cheese with olive oil, parmesan and lemon. I re-create this at home now whenever I lose my appetite. It is a great palate refresher and the perfect thing to get you back "on" food. Something about the freshness of the greens combined with the wonderful creaminess of the goat cheese just seems to wake me up appropriately.

As someone who is still climbing out of a bottomless black pit, I will tell one who just fell in to not wrap yourself in a cocoon and isolate yourself. It may feel like a safe thing to do, but it is self-destructive. Get out there with people who know you, like you, love you. You know who they are. If they don't invite you to breakfast, lunch or dinner, you invite them. Don't have the energy to cook - no prob - meet them at a cafe. Try to eat well - it will give you the energy you need to get through today. You don't need to look too far ahead. Do what is good for you today and tomorrow will take care of itself. Do not be alone, let the people who care about you (and when you're hurting you'll probably be surprised at who is really there for you) be supportive and you spend time with them, have meals with them, laugh with them, take walks with them. That will make you happier (I promise), and you'll take better care of yourself and will heal. If not a day at a time, sometimes it takes a minute at a time. Breathe, unclench your fists and call a friend.

...........and help others less fortunate. I'm of the opinion that if you tell others what you've done, you lose some of the benefits, but there are so many people of all ages who are sick, lonely, ignorant, heartbroken, homeless, broke, or overwhelmed and in need of help. I'll bet you could help in a million different ways. It can be exhausting, but there is nothing more rewarding and in helping others you help yourself even more than you can imagine.

If it's really overwhelming, try starting with some simple bland foods and nutrition shakes (Carnation, Ensure) and get yourself some books: MFK Fischer, Jeffery Steingarten, Nigella's How to Eat: anything that might perk your appetite or at least think well of food and cooking, with a sense of humor and a knowing eye and a general lack of pretension or grave sympathy (when I'm down, I don't want comforting words, but energetic words; everyone's different). Eventually--I hope--you'll be annoyed with the shake and feel like getting into the kitchen, even if it's just for a cheese sandwich.

I like MFK Fischer especially because she addresses a breadth of experiences and hard times, and sometimes that can help.

Also, sunlight, garlic, and lemons.

One last thought.........the smell of cooking food gets my tummy rumbling. I don't know what foods you like, but say for instance you like beef stew or pot roast.....or, you know a down on their luck or super busy family, or shut-in who would enjoy a meal you also like. It only takes minutes to throw everything into the pot and by the time it's ready you are SO ready to eat! If you can also share it with someone who would really appreciate it, it might give you the impetus to make it in the first place.

Wow. When my husband decided he wanted a divorce, he sent me an e-mail to make this request. We were together 8 years. I was devastated. In the process, I lost 21 lbs. The good news...I looked great. The bad news... it doesn't last.

There is probably one food that does not make you nauseous to think about. Wherever it is, go get some. For me, it was Carrabbas. I could always eat Carrabbas, no matter how much anxiety I had. Granted, one Carrabbas entree lasted me 3 days but at least I could eat it. I had a friend who used to call me right after work and while speaking with her, I was calm enough to actually get hungry. While we were on the phone I would stuff a few mouthfuls of food into me, then apologize later for eating while on the phone. She'd say, "Do you chew? I didn't hear a thing!"

It's a crazy time when something goes so awry that your basic instinct to eat is cut off. It's very important to try and keep yourself well during this time.

I am very glad you are getting professional help. After several weeks of struggling with my trauma, I decided I needed "chemical assistance." My doctor put me on Cymbalta which basically made me a zombie. After I felt more like myself I asked to be taken off it because it took away my whole personality. After about 6 weeks, all meds were done and I was squarely back on my feet. Everyone is different - it may take you more or less time - but you're getting help and that's what's important.

Do whatever you have to do to feel better. I hope things improve for you soon. ((Hugs))

Hi Lilly -

There's already so much good advice here -- I just wanted to wish you well, and commend you for posting your question. It takes a lot of courage to seek help, and I'm sure you've helped so many people just by putting this subject up for discussion.

I hope you're feeling better soon!

I am a mess in the winter...these are the things that keep me sane (wink..wink) and med free. Why let an antidepressant ruin a perfectly good bad mood?

Decide your getting up, showered, dressed and meeting up with pals for lunch. Even if you just have soup the plates of other people my kick in a craving.

If you don't want to get dressed and go out, clean the hell out of your house. I mean scrub in places that you forgot existed. Its good for the mind and the soul. Do it ass naked if you want to...put on some slap happy music and make friends with your mop and some bleach. THEN call for take out when you find yourself ravenous from kicking ass all day.

Call one of your good pals that can actually cook beyond a bag or box. Tell her your connundrum. Ask her if she would come over to hang out and cook with you. Nothing in this world picks up the spirit more than good friends and good food. (No alcohol for me, thanks)

Lastly, and I am sure I will get reamed for this one, go find a tanning bed. Buy a package and give yourself some good old fashioned tan time. You relax, get the rays you need to beat SAD and come out looking pretty perky in a pretty gray world. Works for me every single time. Wrinkles and melanoma be damned.

Dont judge til you have been there. Once you have kicked all the doldrums ass, THEN have a glass of wine with the friends and good food!

Lilly,
I just wanted to add my good wishes to all the others before me.
My college roommate struggled with depression for years before
finding the right mix of therapy and meds. She made it through
and so will you. Have faith in others when you can't find faith in
yourself.
I would send you food if I could. Instead I will send my best
wishes for you to be well.

Hi Lilly,
I was ill for several weeks last year and couldn't muster up an appetite. I found making a tiny, one-serving pot of miso soup (just dissolve miso paste in hot water) with some grated fresh ginger, pumpkin puree from a can, dried seaweed, and any frozen veg you fancy (peas, corn, cauliflower, spinach) made a nutritious meal that I could actually stomach. When you start feeling better, you can add a starch like rolled oats or mini pasta to it. I hope you get to a happier place soon.

lilly - I am just like you... when I get depressed, I completely loose my appetite. I completely understand the feeling of not wanting to eat or preapre anything at all.

What helped me - I made myself a lot of milkshakes, sometimes made with fruits, oatmeal, ice cream, milk, soy milk, yogurt, etc. That would at least keep me nourished and they're easy to make. I also took Boost or Ensure supplements. They helped with the protein intake and opened up my appetite. I also made myself hot cereals with milk - cream of wheat, oatmeal, cream of corn, cornstarch, etc. Try also making yourself sandwiches - peanut butter and jelly, ham and cheese... have them on whole grain breads. They seem simple, but they provide a good deal nutrition to at least keep you going.

What really helped me get through the depression was YOGA - yoga teachings and mantra yoga meditation really helped me get rid of the toxic feelings and attachments that made me feel awful at the time.

I really hope you feel better... and everything you're going thru will pass and make you stronger. Best to you.

Lilly, you've gotten all kinds of good advice already so I'll just say good luck and my prayers are with you!

I'd just like to thank all of you for your kind words and advice. It's nice to know that there are people out there who care enough to help a complete stranger, in such a personal way.

Everyone is offering such good advice. Good luck from someone who's been there - and I've always found that citrusy things helped a lot (eating the fruit, drinking the juice, or even dishes or salads that have a lot of citrus in them). Maybe the rays of sunshine come through in the fruit!

I have a suggestion that might sound odd but that has helped me in the past. Others have recommended eating whatever food is the simplest--consuming things that are nutritionally dense and also very low-effort. And there has been a suggestion that you get some new cookbooks and really get into cooking again. Here's my thought: depression often takes away not only appetite, but also curiosity. Why not teach yourself an entirely new-to-you cuisine? For instance, do you like Vietnamese food but don't know how to prepare it yourself? Learn. This kind of experiment could help both mentally and physically!

Lily, I wanted to add my good wishes to everybody else's. My mother had a stroke a few years ago, and while things weren't going well, I fell into a depression and loss of appetite like yours where I lost a great deal of weight (and was already thin to begin with). I made myself comforting foods like soup, that were easy to eat but nourishing with lots of veggies, and would add easy proteins like eggs or tofu. My best to you. :hugs:

When I'm depressed, I eat like a pig. Nothing's safe from me. That said, total emotional devastation is another story entirely. I can barely get down an apple a day.

In one of MFK Fisher's books (can't remember which one), she wrote about how much she loved oranges, peeled and sectioned, and having sat out a bit on her windowsill in the sun so that the membrane over the sections developed a real bite when you bit into it. The way the juice burst in your mouth. She way she wrote about it made me want one so much, done just like her, sitting on the windowsill to rest. And that's what I did. And I had another, then another, and then moved on to real food. It's pretty amazing what such a bright clean flavor can do for you. @renzata, MFK Fisher was a great call. Anyhoo, that's pretty much my goto to food when I plumb major emotional depths. It's my kick-start and has, thus far, always worked for me.

Lilly, take care of yourself. I know that there are times that it feels as though the effort of eating just isn't worth it, but you honestly, really, truly will feel better if you do.

As a food-lover (and manic depressive) - I understand that it kills that not only are you in a terrible place but the things that could bring you joy like the flavor of a fine wine or the twangy sweet/sour of Thai food - simply do not taste like anything. It's like the sense is dulled to the point of not existing. Forcing yourself to eat doesn't matter when you literally cannot taste anything. Yes, you need to eat, but the loss of taste is deeper than making yourself go and cook.

You will cycle out of this, though. Go get professional help.

Lily,

Like so many others, I just wanted to wish you well and to let you know there are people who care and who understand what you are going through. I also suffer from depression and my advice is to try to do the complete opposite of whatever your inner voice is telling you to do. It took me a very long time to understand that the very thing I thought was making me feel better was actually making me more sick. At those darker moments, my instinct was to sleep, not eat, not get dressed, hide from the world and I thought that was "protecting" me, when in fact, it was doing the opposite. The simple act of getting showered, dressed, leaving the house (even if it's only for a walk) will usually change that chemical make up in your brain. Helping others and reaching out was my key to getting better. You will also be helping others by reaching out. It does wonders on both sides and I really want to cheer for you for reaching out to us here. It's a hard thing to do, but you did it and if you follow this way of thinking, you will get past this.
I also agree with trying to cook, even if you don't want to eat it at first. Make it simple and perhaps the act itself will start your appetite to perk up.
Also, try to do one thing a day that makes you happy. It doesn't have to be a big thing (my treat was to go to a book store and browse as long as I wanted to!) but treat yourself with kindness and keep reaching out.
I wish you all the best and hope this passes for you soon.

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