Tomato in all its various forms ...
OK, I'm admitting ignorance here. A while ago in the marinara thread, someone posted a recipe that contained (going by memory alone; I may be wrong) tomato paste, tomato sauce, tomato puree, and tomatoes.
What's going on here? What's the difference? Can't you just put tomatoes in? Why do you need four different tomato preparations in the same recipe?
Add a comment:
Previewing your comment:
HTML Hints
Some HTML is OK: <a href="URL">link</a>, <strong>strong</strong>, <em>em</em>
Comment Guidelines
Post whatever you want, just keep it seriously about eats, seriously. We reserve the right to delete off-topic or inflammatory comments. Learn more at our Comment Policy page.
If you see something not so nice, please, report an inappropriate comment.
Start Talking!
Need a question answered? Have advice to share? Start a Talk topic now!
Sign up to get your questions answered and share advice.

11 Comments:
Different tomato products contribute different characteristics. Whole or crushed tomatoes will have a fresher flavor, thin juice and whole tomato flesh. Tomato sauce is a pureed tomato product, like a thick juice. It is not as fresh a flavor as whole tomatoes though and is thicker. Tomato puree is thicker still. It has been cooked more, is less acidic than tomatoes or tomato sauce. Its taste is more concentrated, a bit sweeter. And tomato paste is even more concentrated still, sweet and thick. It is intensely flavored ... you use less. All the prepared products are seasoned too. Some salt at least will be added. You often find whole basil leaves in canned whole tomatoes.
Diced, crushed and whole tomatoes will also be different. Some are more processed than others, so they will hold their shape. They will also taste different and will cook down differently. Diced tomatoes for example don't disintegrate the way whole tomatoes do when you cook them.
Personally, I would not use all of those products in a marinara. I am firmly in the minimalist school there, just whole tomatoes, crushed manually, for me. For a longer cooking meat sauce, a ragu, I would use use tomato paste and probably some canned tomatoes as well. It's a more intense flavor, needed to stand up to all the meat and vegetables.
The best thing you could do to figure it all out would be to purchase a small quantity of each product and taste them. Discover the different tastes and textures yourself.
kjgibson at 11:46PM on 01/15/08
I also get kitchen cut tomatoes, ground tomatoes, diced tomatoes, peeled tomatoes, pellati, passata, and pomodori pellati.
There is texture and various degrees of thickness and you will get used to them when you cook with them. It is a personal thing. When I use tomatoes for marinara I usually use my own canned tomatoes which have been peeled and canned whole. But if I am not using those I don't often use fresh because they require a bit of work. I often use for marinara any of the above listed ones in combination. Why? No real answer its just how I do it.
JerzeeTomato at 12:55AM on 01/16/08
I'm with kjgibson on just using whole, hand crushed san marzano canned tomatoes when I make a marinara.
I use tomato paste when I'm making a braise or stew ... rich tomato flavor without all the liquid.
I'll occasionally use diced, canned tomatoes when I'm making a casserole, mostly just because the cans are smaller than the ones the whole tomatoes come in.
And I use tomato juice sometimes when I want to add a little liquid to something and don't have any chicken stock handy.
I find that I rarely ever cook with fresh tomatoes. I save them for salads and sandwiches.
cookingmonster.com
DaveFaris at 3:41AM on 01/16/08
I love that tomatoes are sold in so many incarnations these days. It used to be Whole Peeled Tomatoes, Puree, Paste and Sauce. Now there are Stewed, Petite Diced, Crushed, Tom Paste in a tube (for small quantity needs) and even Roasted...
If you love tomatoes, it's good to have a selection of these products on hand. The cut and/or treatment of the toms can expedite your dish and this comes in handy on weeknights.
chiff0nade at 10:13AM on 01/16/08
Jerzee, I think "pomodori pelati" just means "peeled tomatoes."
Kerosena at 12:13PM on 01/16/08
a note about tomato paste: i once heard mario batali recommend browning tomato paste before adding it to a recipe, by pushing aside the other ingredients in the pan and letting it cook for a minute or two to caramelize it and deepen the flavor. i've done that ever since, and it really is a great trick.
cybercita at 1:00PM on 01/16/08
One more comment - the canned whole peeled tomatoes are likely to be the most perfect specimens of tomato. My dad used to say, "If you had a perfect tomato, would you crush it to sell it?" Less than perfect tomatoes have the imperfections cut out of them, and the balance of that tomato becomes a cut-style canned product. While this is not entirely an appetizing fact, I sometimes need those cut tomato products for convenience.
chiff0nade at 3:51PM on 01/16/08
Along the lines of browning tomato paste, I have a recipe for tomato soup that starts by roasting drained, canned tomatoes, to dry them out and concentrate their flavor. Then they are cooked with some sauteed shallot, a bit of tomato paste (browned in the shallot :-) and some of the juice from the tomatoes. It is out of this world good. And pretty quick too.
kjgibson at 4:31PM on 01/16/08
Hey kj....are you willing to share the tomato soup recipe? I've been looking for a good homemade tomato soup recipe, and that sounds really good!
mepolo at 12:58PM on 01/18/08
@Kerosena of course it does. Thats what it says on my imported italian tomatoes in the can. Regular garden variety peeled tomatoes however are not pomodoro. Pomodoro are really good quality tomatoes.
JerzeeTomato at 1:21PM on 01/18/08
For mepolo, and anyone else who wants it ....
Tomato Soup
Adapted from Cook's Illustrated
Makes about 5 1/2 cups
2 28-oz cans whole tomatoes (packed in juice, not puree), drained, 3 cups juice reserved, tomatoes seeded
1 1/2 tbl dark brown sugar
4 tbl unsalted butter
4 large shallots , minced
1 tbl tomato paste
Pinch ground allspice
2 tbl unbleached all-purpose flour
1 3/4 c chicken stock* (homemade preferably or a low-sodium variety. You could use water or a veggie stock if you prefer.)
1/2 c water
2 tbl dry sherry
Table salt & pepper to taste
cayenne pepper
sweet basil oil & creme fraiche for serving
*this turns out to be about 1 can of broth. Convenient, eh?
1. Adjust oven rack to upper-middle position and heat oven to 450 degrees; line jelly-roll pan or rimmed cookie sheet with foil. Spread tomatoes in single layer on foil, and sprinkle evenly with brown sugar. Bake until all liquid has evaporated and tomatoes begin to color, about 30 minutes. Let tomatoes cool slightly, then peel them off foil; transfer to small bowl and set aside.
2. Heat butter over medium heat in medium nonreactive saucepan until foaming; add shallots, tomato paste, allspice and a pinch of cayenne. Reduce heat to low, cover, and cook, stirring occasionally, until shallots are softened, 7 to 10 minutes. Add flour and cook, stirring constantly, until thoroughly combined, about 30 seconds. Whisking constantly, gradually add chicken stock and water; stir in reserved tomato juice and roasted tomatoes. Cover, increase heat to medium, and bring to boil; reduce heat to low and simmer, stirring occasionally, to blend flavors, about 10 minutes.
3. Strain mixture into medium bowl; rinse out saucepan. Transfer tomatoes and solids in strainer to blender; add 1 cup strained liquid and puree until smooth. Add remaining reserved liquid.
4. Return the pureed mixture to the saucepan, and heat over low heat until hot, about 3 minutes. Off heat, stir in sherry; season to taste with salt and pepper, drizzle with basil oil & creme fraiche and serve immediately.
I find this plenty rich but for a Cream of Tomato soup, you can substitute 1/2 c. heavy cream for the water. Add in step 4.
kjgibson at 3:54PM on 01/18/08