If the ideal foodie magazine exists, what is it?
And if not, what would it be, if you could create it from scratch?
Those were the questions raised in another topic, by Cookie Pie.
I wonder what answers might exist. :)
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I don't think it can exist, because being a "foodie" can take on so many different aspects.
The first big division (not opposition, though) I see is between interest in restaurants/chefs vs. home cooking. Not that you can't be interested in both, but there are definitely people who lean in different directions. See, for instance, Grub Street's recent blurb and subsequent commentors' revolt about Bon Appetit's relevance/lack thereof:
http://nymag.com/daily/food/2007/12/face_it_bon_appetit_youre_neve.html
I, for instance, have little interest in restaurant, but am very interested in home cooking, though I do like cooking restaurant/chef recipes at home.
I love cookbooks much more than food mags, which I very rarely purchase. And I think my preference for the books is that their sheer size generally allows a deeper insight and immersion into the cook/author's perspective, and that's where I learn most from food writing in general. Recipes are too easily found online to justify the paper, but the lessons I've learned from, say, Zuni or Bouchon or even works like Nigella Lawson's How to Eat have very little to do with the actual restaurants or recipes, and everything to do with their creators' particular insights and attitudes towards food. That is what makes me a better cook.
Of course, this doesn't address the geekier side, like Cook's Illustrated. I've never bought one, but I did buy Best Recipes when I first started cooking. The recipes work like clockwork, but it takes a lot of the fun out of it.
renzata at 4:27PM on 12/09/07
I think Saveur comes about the closest to Nirvana. Just the right amount of exotic locations and fare with the homespun local stuff (try getting past the first 8 or 10 pages in under an hour...) - AND the best food photography ever - Saveur makes me spring out of my comfy chair and head for the kitchen when I'm reading it. I've made some incredible dishes from it.
There are other more technical magazines (like Fine Cooking and Cook's Illustrated) and more mainstream stuff (like Gourmet and Bon Appetit) but Saveur is the perfect mix of ingredients spread onto magazine pages and bound for shipment to salivating foodies everywhere.
chiff0nade at 4:36PM on 12/09/07
Seek out and grab a copy of Donna Hay's magazine [she's the Martha of Australia, without the pucker] and you'll never look back...
sallyforth at 4:49PM on 12/09/07
The ideal food magazine is Serious Eats.
NSW at 5:12PM on 12/09/07
I've seen that Donna Hay mag and with your recommendation, I'm grabbing one next time!
chiff0nade at 6:05PM on 12/09/07
For me the quest would start with "Tell me something new."
Or alternately, tell me the same thing but in a new way with a new voice.
Bon Appetit is replaying the same song in the same key with the same recipes and Junior League wannabes photos as many other places have done and as they have done for some number of years.
Donna Hay is hipper with a bit more but for me - give me more than what exists on the plate. Think beyond the tongue and tastebuds.
Saveur is good in that way but again the travels mostly have been taken before in other readings.
If you want to cook, get Cook's Illustrated. It will teach you how and the recipes will work unless, of course, you decide you know better and then alter them heh heh.
Gourmet is getting to where I like it again - it does appear that people who write have brains and use them. The articles are not the same as everywhere else - there is a spark of individuality - footsteps are heading in some directions not taken previously. The issue on Latin foods is an example. Things simply were put together differently. A different recipe for a "foodie" magazine though not boldly so or in-your-face-so.
I'll take the artwork and some columns from Gastronomica, the recipes and tone from Cucina Italiana (the Italian edition) , the photography from Essen und Trinken (simple, light-filled, about the food without requiring it have a make-over first). I'll take a magazine made of cheap paper without a glossy cover, for to me most magazines are ephemera and should act so, not as if they were striving to be books but not quite making it simply because of their nature.
I'd like to read some essays of quality that do not come from "celebrity chefs" or celebrity chef groupies. In many cases a bit more humor would be appreciated rather than the studied solemnity of the docent who is bowing to the stove or the determinedly cheerful plodding away of those who want to eat healthy.
Tell me something new. Please don't give me recipes I've read of in twenty other places thirty other times. If you have to do so from lack of anything else being written then please make it amusing somehow.
I'd like bits of food history and the history of eating, of gastronomy dropped into the mix here and there. Not too much, just a dab here and there. Something to grab onto, you know. History does repeat itself and when one can look beyond the tip of one's nose it is quite interesting.
Link food to art, to music, to literature, to sociology, to psychology - but without an academic or preachy tone. Link it to politics once in a while too for those that like that sort of thing.
Show me a farm where things are grown - show me the people that grow them. Write about what makes them great or dull or merely passable, and show me where else on earth these things grow and how the quality level and cost compares to where I live.
Last but not least, give me a foodie horoscope. Horoscopes are always useful and if they are not at the very least they are funny.
I'll think of more, later, no doubt. :)
Karen Resta at 7:35PM on 12/09/07
I don't know if anything is "ideal", as people are at such different places in their culinary evolution.
I'm enjoying - and learning from - Cooks Illustrated. I decided to give it as a gift subscription to two relatives - a niece who is newly married and untutored in the kitchen and to a father-in-law who is a PhD food scientist. I think both will enjoy it.
Nursie at 7:37PM on 12/09/07
Diner Journal, produced by employees, owners, and others at a place I have never been because I don't live in NYC called Marlow and Sons, is an excellent magazine. The one issue I have seen is very nice: recipes, great information about purveyors and their products, well written, artistic, one of the best. Only problem is they only produce a few a year.
intheyearofthepig at 7:59PM on 12/09/07
I would say that Saveur is the all around leader. I also like Cooks Illustrated, I actually read it mostly for enjoyment, and I must add that their recipes do produce consistant results though they are somewhat arduous.
Something else to be on the lookout for are the Edible Communities publications. They are specific to certain regions and offer some really great stories about the local food scene.
http://www.ediblecommunities.com/portal/edible-publications.htm
coolname at 8:10PM on 12/09/07
The only food magazine I subscribe to in print is Gourmet, but I do like America's Test Kitchen/Cook's Illustrated.
I find Gourmet inspirational, and I love www.epicurious.com as a resource. As an improvisational cook, I love the way Cook's Illustrated approaches recipes: they look at all the different approaches, try them all and then tell you which they thought worked best and why ... invaluable!
My brother is a professional chef, and he likes Saveur and Gastronimica.
SSMom at 9:06PM on 12/09/07
Cook's Illustrated.
bobbob at 10:43AM on 12/10/07
I've subscribed to them all at one time or another, but they seem to become repetative after a couple years.
Right now I enjoy reading the Edible Communites publications, but otherwise I get all my foodie reading off the internet.
srhcb at 10:55AM on 12/10/07
Gourmet is the best - I also love the Gourmet blog at epicurious.com
dettling05 at 1:51PM on 12/10/07
Late to this discussion, but astounded no one mentioned The Art of Eating quarterly. Magnificent.
BeverlyS at 5:35PM on 12/10/07
Rather than echo Cook's Illustrated and Saveur (or did I?) I'll go with Art Culinaire. It's expensive, but it's the standard bearer for chefs. And the Liquor Board of Ontario puts out a nice one as well.
zapatista at 2:53PM on 12/11/07
Mmm. That brings up the question of whether chefs are foodies, zapatista. :) Heh.
Karen Resta at 2:56PM on 12/11/07