Bone-in Chicken Breasts - are they the anti-chicken?
I was looking for something new to do with chicken, and I almost always buy bone in breasts. They look better, taste better and are not as processed as their naked sisters. I went to a popular recipe site and every recipe that came up when I did the search specifying "bone-in chicken breasts" had someone in the comments saying "Oh I did this with boneless skinless..."
Ok, are they the anti-chicken? I really do not like boneless skinless chicken breasts from the supermarket. The texture and non-existent flavor drive me crazy when the price of them can be almost $5 a pound (as was the case today). Meanwhile I got the bone-in for $1.29 a pound.
Yes, I know about health concerns, but if you remove the skin after cooking, you have removed a good portion of the calories, but have retained the flavor, and bones don't contribute to calories but contribute to the flavor IMMENSELY!
What gives?
Add a comment:
Previewing your comment:
HTML Hints
Some HTML is OK: <a href="URL">link</a>, <strong>strong</strong>, <em>em</em>
Comment Guidelines
Post whatever you want, just keep it seriously about eats, seriously. We reserve the right to delete off-topic or inflammatory comments. Learn more at our Comment Policy page.
If you see something not so nice, please, report an inappropriate comment.
Start Talking!
Need a question answered? Have advice to share? Start a Talk topic now!
Sign up to get your questions answered and share advice.
16 Comments:
I don't really understand the question. Bone in chicken breasts are awesome. The only reason why boneless and skinless cost more is because someone else does the work of removing the bones, and trimming off the tenderloins and skin for you.
I think most people who consume boneless skinless ckicken breasts are a combination of: brainwashed into thinking that boneless skinless chicken breasts are the ultimate uber-health-food-protein-units, clueless that they can actually butcher their own meat, too squeamish to do it themselves, dont really care about how food tastes since they only eat for fuel.
Not that boneless and skinless dont have their uses. Paillards, fajitas, stir fries, roulades, or fried chicken cutlets are only a few great examples. But the filleting process can easily be done at home, you will save some money, plus you have chicken bones left over for stock, and the tenderloins which you can make your own chicken tenders with.
But, for roasting or even grilling, bone-in and skin-on is by far superior. And dont worry about the skin being unhealthy, it's not nearly as bad for you as you've been told. Just eat less starch and more veggies if you have any health concerns, but dont throw out the skin, thats the best part!
seyo at 6:10PM on 12/14/07
Hear, hear, seyo!! I guess boneless/skinless are virtuous in some way (and I use them for some recipes), but the flavor lies in the bones/skin. The best part is the skin, don't you dare not eat it!! It's the first thing I scarf whether from a roast or from thighs or breasts grilled or sauteed. Eat on.
ride&cook at 6:36PM on 12/14/07
I like to gently seperate the skin from the meat on either end without detaching it completely. This forms a pocket between the meat and the breast. Slide some fresh herbs, chopped shallot, minced garlic and a wee bit of butter in there. Pat it down to even it out. Then squeeze some lemon juice on the outside of the skin, sprinkle it with coarse salt and pepper, and in the oven with it, at around 350. There are infinite variations on this (pancetta under the skin is nice, cider vinegar instead of lemon juice, super thin sliced apple or pear under the skin, etc etc)
If you really dont want the skin, you can also remove the skin and coat the breast with a mixture yogurt and tikka paste (after marinating the whole breast in ginger, garlic, lime juice and garam massala) for a pseudo Indian Tandoori flavor.
seyo at 6:54PM on 12/14/07
I find it very annoying that boneless skinless chicken costs more AND I get less!
When I need boneless chicken meat, I bone my own and save up the bones in a bag on the freezer. When I have enough, I make stock.
Why pay more for less?
kjgibson at 7:17PM on 12/14/07
There is a perceived ease in using boneless breast. Frankly, I believe boneless breast is tasteless, and that's why it's always sauced.
I prefer to buy a whole chicken because I'm just too cheap to pay someone to do something with a knife that I very well know how to do. If I need a large quantity of chix breast, I bite the bullet and buy them at Fresh Market. At least I know they're pristine.
chiff0nade at 7:28PM on 12/14/07
Seyo: I guess I didn't write the question the way my mind was screaming it.
I LOVE bone-in chicken breasts and cannot fathom why people go on and on about the taste etc of boneless ones. It just seems, as you pointed out: people are brainwashed.
I also know you are paying for the convenience of having someone bone them for you, but you lose so much meat, plus the bones for stock, and al the little bits that can be used for the soup you make from the stock.
Ride & Cook: my favorite part is the skin too! Turkey, chicken, duck etc. IT's ALL GOOD!
SayWhat at 7:34PM on 12/14/07
plus, you get to play "make a wish" with the wishbone.
economyrice at 4:52AM on 12/15/07
Try keeping kosher!!! Boneless chicken breast can be up to $7.99 a pound!!! It is insane. We try to buy the bone-in, which can be half as much money. I skin it, and if I'm feeling energetic, take it off the bone.
But, yes, the bone-in breasts definitely "taste more like chicken" than their boneless counterparts.
trabo at 7:02PM on 12/15/07
Ok, I confess to using the boneless skinless bra boosters* because they are easy for stir fries and I especially like to slice/marinate/grill pan or saute for sandwiches (it's recipe from an old job that is always good). It's one of the only meat cuts that I buy boneless, and I wish I didn't. Even lamer, I sometimes buy the IQF ones in the bag (they are far more economical but I know it's bad. To boot, they never even seem to come out well).
I used to be able to cook them on the bone, no problem (and often did in this same old job: think deli, not restaurant), and I agree that they are far tastier and make total economic sense, and you get more meat, and they are generally prettier and more civilized to sit down and dine upon.
But somewhere along the way, I lost my touch, and I cannot find the elusive moment between frighteningly rare (and I mean frighteningly, cause I can take a little pinkness at the bone) and dried out. I gave up on them temporarily, and now I want to make good on my promise to return.
So please, would anyone be so kind as to offer their most fail-proof methods for cooking these indoors? I'm not looking for recipes per se (ie., seasonings or marinades), but technique.
It also occurs to me that I have not attempted these since I got a digital thermometer. Hmm....
On a similar note, what's deal with prepeeled shrimp?
*In the UK they call those gel bra inserts chicken fillets (and they pronounce the "t"!). I reverse because both are equally conducive to disappointment.
renzata at 7:18PM on 12/15/07
I do a quick soak in a brine - say 30 minutes - and then rub with olive oil and roast in the oven for 30-45 minutes, depending on size till done. Use the meat for salads, in soups or stews or just eat it.
A quick & yummy dinner recipe, goes great with couscous:
Spicy Roast Chicken
Serves 4
24 ounces whole cherry tomatoes (about 4 cups), stemmed
1/4 cup olive oil
5 garlic cloves, pressed
1 1/4 teaspoons dried crushed red pepper
2 tablespoons chopped fresh marjoram, divided (or 1 tablespoon dried rosemary, and none for garnish)
4 bone-in chicken breasts (10 to 12 ounces each)
Salt and freshly ground pepper
1. Heat the oven to 450 degrees. Toss the tomatoes, olive oil, garlic, crushed red pepper and 1 tablespoon marjoram in a large bowl to combine.
2. Place the chicken on a rimmed baking sheet. Pour the tomato mixture over the chicken, arranging the tomatoes in a single layer on the sheet around the chicken. Sprinkle generously with salt and pepper. Roast until the chicken is cooked through and the tomatoes are blistered, about 35 minutes.
3. Transfer the chicken to plates. Spoon the tomatoes and juices over the chicken. Sprinkle with the remaining 1 tablespoon marjoram and serve.
You really want a sheet pan or other low sided pan. Otherwise the chicken does not brown as well.
kjgibson at 8:19PM on 12/15/07
Ooops ... roast at 350 degrees for 30-45 minutes, depending on size.
kjgibson at 9:16PM on 12/15/07
kjgibson: that recipe sounds delicious.
Technique, hmmm. Lots of times I just season them up: s&p, whatever herbs I have on hand, olive oil and roast them for about 30 -40 mins depending on size (size DOES matter!)
My 5 yo DD will not eat any chicken I cook, doesn't matter what part of the bird it is. :-( She says it doesn't taste like a "nugget" Well no kidding, it tastes like chicken! I look at her and say "Look, your mom (me) went to college for cooking and has a degree in Culinary Arts, I worked in restaurants and cooked thousands of pounds of chicken, I know what I am doing!" Her response: "but you didn't work at McDonalds!" (which is true)
renzata: it's the same thing with pre-peeled shrimp - a time saver that ends up being a flavor loser in a lot of cases. (and I love your comment about the "chicken filet bra enhancers")
SayWhat at 9:48AM on 12/16/07
You never hear of this anymore, but my favorite way to cook whole or split chicken breasts is BROIL. I set the broil temp at 325 to 350, depending on how close the meat is to the element. I start presentation side down and broil bottom until nearly cooked, then turn and finish cooking top and crisping skin. It's always juicy and tender and delicious. Sometimes I baste, sometimes I'm too busy. Basting makes it even better.
Basic oil or butter and s&p, or put any fresh herbs under the skin. I'll call broiling foolproof, as long as you keep an eye on it. Broil too hot or close to the element and you'll have fire.
PerkyMac at 4:58PM on 12/16/07
The only way I will even eat chicken breast that has been seperated from the bird is if it was cooked with bone and skin. I don't get the boneless/skinless thing because that's already taking a cut of meat not exactly exploding in flavor and juice and making it even blander. And they are also ridiculously expensive.
My favorite way to cook them is with whatever spices/marinade I feel like on a particular day (so changeable) and then to cook them skin side down, first in a cast iron skillet over medium heat until the skin in golden, then turn and finish in a 350o oven, skin side up until they're done. I don't really have times as it really kinda depends on size.
chisai at 8:28AM on 12/17/07
Easy recipe and its awesome:
Season chicken with whatever seasoning you like, Salt pepper garlic powder, cayenne, paprika. Slather chicken with Dijon mustard cover with panko bread crumbs. Pop in a 375 degree oven for 1 hour to an hour and a half depending on size of breast and viola.
nelson5757 at 2:46PM on 12/17/07
I know what you mean about bone-in chicken breasts having more flavor more consistently but there are such things as flavorful boneless skinless chicken breasts. I prefer them because for some reason, they just feel cleaner and easier to put sauce on and eat. I like my sauces in direct contact with my chicken whereas the bone-in chicken has skin and bones in the way.
That's my take!
Hillary
Chew on That
Chew on That at 10:51AM on 12/20/07